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Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know how long it taks for a bush lemon tree to fruit? I have one planted for just over a year now and it has grown really quickly and is now about 2 meters tall (it started about 30 cm).

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Time: 1st April 2012 2:58pm

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Xiem says...
I think its about eight years NQG. Unless its on rootstock but of course the bush lemon is rootstock itself. Perhaps you might think about grafting other citrus on to it. See below for some reading material (the bush lemon is listed under rough lemon).

http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol1/Chapter4.html

Time: 1st April 2012 3:36pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
If you are in NQ,the tree will be growing all year, so you can cut out some or a lot of the 8years. Don't prune it, once it gets about3m x 1m size, should be getting close to flowering.

Time: 2nd April 2012 6:42am

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Brendan says...
Mine took 5 years NQG. The two trees would now have over 80 fruit on each tree, so I'll have to do some pickled/preserved lemons:-)

http://awesomepickle.com/archives/848

Time: 2nd April 2012 7:08am

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NQ Grower says...
Thanks heaps everyone - that helps alot - the links are also great! I am in Townsville so I am fairly NQ - hopefully that will be a bit quicker as you suggest jakfruit etiquette - 8 years is a bit soul destroying :)

Love the pickles and preserves - how do you all find the bush lemon for taste as compared to commercial lemons?



Time: 3rd April 2012 7:28pm

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Brendan says...
Hi NQG, IMHO the bush lemon is easily the best lemon for taste, size etc. You can eat the whole thing, skin & all :-)

It's perfect with Coral Trout, Red Emperor, Grunter etc.

Mate of mine ate 6 whole bush lemons, washed down with a six-pak of XXXX Gold! It certainly cleaned his system out! :-)

Other good lemons are Eureka & Lisbon.

Time: 4th April 2012 7:36am

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MaryT says...
I agree with Brendan. The bush lemon is delicious sliced into a salad or in cooking. My friend brought me some and I had to buy a tree. Sadly it's the only citrus I have that failed to thrive and it looks like dying any minute now.

Time: 4th April 2012 7:52am

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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, try giving your sick bush lemon tree some Seasol (white bottle). Cover all the leaves, soil etc. You 'might' just save it :-)

Time: 5th April 2012 10:33am

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Brendan. I'll give it the Seasol and see what happens. There're only twenty odd leaves on it (and falling) so it's easy to cover :( If it lives it owes its life to you because I was just about to 'chop' it. My guru Mike advocates the culling of all non performers. :)

Time: 5th April 2012 10:41am

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Brendan says...
Hello again MaryT, can you post a photo of your sick lemon tree? It could be root-rot? (phytophthora).

How old is the tree?

Time: 5th April 2012 11:04am

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MaryT says...
Hi Brendan, I bought it from Daleys last year and put it in the ground (all my other citrus are in pots) so that was probably a mistake. Anyway I potted it up a few days ago and there was very little roots on it so you may be right about root rot. I have no experience with that so please advice. The base of the trunk has this white stuff on it (just noticed it)- does it mean anything?

I was going to throw it out but thought I'd put it in a pot to see if it would behave better.


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Time: 5th April 2012 11:48am

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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, citrus trees are not real keen on being moved. That pot seems very small (to me).
What sort of potting mix is it growing in? Looks awfully 'woody'?

The yellowing veins usually means it's lacking magnesium, so try a tablespoon of Dolomite, and water in with Seasol. Do the same two weeks later. You just might save it.

Time: 6th April 2012 8:31am

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MaryT says...
Thanks Brendan. I am doing all I can to save it. The pot size is right for the root ball, which is minute (say size of a lemon?) I chatted to my friend who gave me the bush lemons (fruit) and she said perhaps they like warmer climes. I think the problem is partly neglect, partly poor soil (sandstone with little topsoil), insufficient sunlight and perhaps some sort of pathology. I think if I give it enough attention it will be OK though I can't really afford the energy for fussy plants.

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MaryT says...
It seems people south of Sydney are growing them well so it can't be the temperature. They should do well here. My friend says bush lemons should be grown in the bush :)

Time: 6th April 2012 10:23am

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Rebecca says...
Bunnings are selling Bush Lemon Trees in Southport Gold Coast - they are half as unkempt, lumpy etc as the traditional find-in-the bush type..looks quite civilized & has a reddish tinge to flesh..pith is fine..not thick & bumpy..

Time: 6th April 2012 10:51am

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MaryT says...
Do they taste good, Rebecca?

Time: 6th April 2012 10:54am

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Mike says...
You see them in a lot of yards as a result of rootstock taking over citrus.Many years ago local scouts would collect fruit of bush lemons and sell the seeds as rootstock for grafting onto.The trees get big and thorny and the fruit often tastes more like meyer than a lisbon.

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While we are on the topic of citrus would someone care to comment on this one for me. I've posted previously about this plant. Got a mature plants from someones backyard. Planted it. Not doing good and is not nearly dead. I am this - close to throwing it out but will leave it till spring to see if some miracle might happen.

I sometimes see tiny buds (greenish) bits coming out but then they die out.

I've given this plants potash , seasol and what the hack not but it won't recover.

Seems to still have life on some of the greenish bits of the branches but rest is all dead. I've checked the roots and the roots seem to be expanding and throwing little new roots BUT BUT BUT.
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Time: 6th April 2012 2:21pm

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Julie says...
Mary, if you feel like starting again I will have seeds soon. My bush lemon was originally a grapefruit which I cut down (I had three). It reverted to stock, and gets no attention - no food, water, anything. So they are tough!

Time: 6th April 2012 9:24pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks Julie; I'll persevere with this one a bit longer but will keep yours in mind. If I start sprouting tree seeds now it would only be as an interest. I can't hope to see fruit on them. :)

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Rebecca says...
Hello Mary T..replying to your response of April 6..sorry.. the trees are not bearing..I'm only going by the pictures attached. personally,,I don't eat Bush Lemons..when I was a kid around 10 yrs old, I got stuck into several lemons I found..the acid was so strong & my mouth so sensitive, I blistered & to this day even some oranges/mandarins/ the sweeter citrus sets me off again. I can, however, eat lemons when they are in Lemon Mergingue Pie or Homemade Pancakes swimming in butter & sugar!!! Funny that..hahaha..

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MaryT says...
Not many people would eat a lemon on its own, Rebecca, though I've enjoyed my friend's bush lemons, sliced, skin and all into a fennel salad. Yum

Time: 14th May 2012 10:58am

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Brendan says...
This is the first year my bush lemon trees have beared properly, I used to just duck down the creek next door and 'borrow' a few :-)

We only had 2 fruit on last year, so I gave it a good dose of sulphate of potash and epsom salts (plus gypsum because they're in clay!)

They taste unreal now, and you can eat the whole thing :-)
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Time: 17th May 2012 7:30am

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MaryT says...
Wow Brendan I am impressed! Lucky you. Yes I love it that you can eat the whole thing. I've raised a couple of seedlings from my friend's fruit; fingers crossed. Mine died :(

Time: 17th May 2012 7:47am

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Xiem says...
Brendan, picture 1 is that at five years age or is it older than that now?

Time: 17th May 2012 11:12am

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Brendan says...
Hi Xiem, there's actually 2 trees in pic one, one behind the other :-)

They've been in the ground for a bit more than 5 years now, but they were in pots for about 2 years before that.
They'll need a prune after I use all the fruit, as they're growing a bit tall.

Time: 18th May 2012 7:27am

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Peter1 says...
Hi,

If anyone can sell me some bush lemons I'll be happy. I'm in the Brisbane area.

My email is bondy99@hotmail.com

cheers, Peter1

Time: 4th February 2013 12:20am

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Brendan says...
Hi Peter1,
My bush lemons are only half grown at the moment, I can give you some seeds later on?
Also, atm, some have got Citrus Scab! :-(, so I'm in the process of spraying them with copper oxychloride. See link http://www.searles.com.au/Fungicidechart.html
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Peter1 says...
I was told if one was to plant a young bush lemon tree in the ground, it will take about 50 years before it will bear its' first fruit.

Can anyone tell me if this is true or a lot of rot?

How long does it take to produce its first crop from scratch?

Thanks, Peter1

Time: 25th February 2013 12:28am

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Brendan says...
My two bush lemons took about 5 to 6 years to bear from seed Peter1, so that 50 years is incorrect. Don't forget, you have to feed them well to achieve this :-)
This is the third year of them bearing fruit, they produce more fruit every year.
I'll have to prune them later this year, they're getting a bit untidy.

Time: 25th February 2013 8:42am

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MaryT says...
Brendan don't forget you have a herd of cows feeding your garden :) Some of us may not have that luxury. Citrus love to be fed and they respond to it almost instantly.

Time: 25th February 2013 10:00am

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Brendan says...
Shhh MaryT, don't tell everyone!
Actually, the cows are next door, I only 'borrow' their droppings :-)
There's enough of their manure under my bush lemon trees to last 3 years!

Time: 26th February 2013 8:47am

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MaryT says...
Ha Brendan

Time: 26th February 2013 11:21am

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Brendan says...
Don't have to do that MaryT, the cattle are up to my back fence, and the owners house would be about 2km away! He's on 150 acres. I just collect in broad daylight, when it's not raining!, we've had 111mm last night and today so far! We really have had enough rain.

Time: 27th February 2013 3:59pm

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MaryT says...
That's a lot of rain, Brendan, but these things come in cycles so before you know it you'll be wishing for more. I wish I have cow poo delivered to my back fence :)

Time: 27th February 2013 6:23pm

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Peter1 says...
Brendan,

Thanks for that info, I had an incling that 50 years was way too long but did not know if this was true or not, hence the post on this forum as people are growing them.

2 or 3 years is better, yes plenty of cow manure for sure.

I use to drive a few miles to collect some from the bush but developers and some landholders placed an end to that idea due to development.

I do ask the landowner for permission before venturing onto their property.

Rain, rain, rain, hod our fair share too, I feel for those people that lost everything due to ex cyclone and more wild weather.

Peter1

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Mrs B says...
I have sprouted two Bush Lemon seedlings! They are about seven weeks old.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
G'day Mrs B.

Good on you Mrs B. You just have to wait five years to harvest the first fruits of your labor. Surely, there will be gardening trials and tribulations along the way but I'm hopeful you will always come up trumps. Who knows you might even uncover a new improved variety of Bush lemon tree. You can name it Mrs B lemon variety perhaps?

Happy Gardening.

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Mrs B says...
I received my Bush Lemon seedling from Daley’s yesterday and gave it a soak in a bucket and another water today, as well as spritzing the leaves.

It looks to me like the leaves might be a bit dry, but we will transfer this one to a 5.5” pot tomorrow to see how it responds.

The potting mix seems very dry. I am worried about my bush lemon. It is sitting in water now.

I have attached a picture. Any advice is most welcome.

Notice that I had some success with bush lemon seedlings grown from seed!




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Hi Mrs B

They are normal. They are just suffering from transfer shock from a cozy near optimum environment (nursery) to a less likely one. Don't be surprise if they may even loose some leaves. But in due time they will acclimatize to their new environment. It's beneficial for them to be transferred to a bigger pot and fresh potting mix because by now most of the nutrients in their current pot are already depleted hence the yellowing of the leaves. Once transferred into a bigger container with fresh premium potting mix they will quickly respond with new fresh growth within a forthnight. Don't forget a little bit of seasol with their drinks.

Happy Gardening :-)

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Mrs B says...
Thank you!
If you look closely at the second and third pictures, some leaves have weird yellow spots on them.

I have taken close up shots. Any comments on these? Should I keep this lemon seedling away from my two younger lemon seedlings? I have also added pictures of the two x 2-1/2 month old seedlings.

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Mrs B

Looks like the small yellow spots are the early stages of citrus bacterial leaf spot disease. Usually the disease originates from the nursery. There is no known cure for it only control and prevention. Spray the affected plants with liquid copper based fungicide weekly or according to manufacturers recommendations. Avoid wetting the lemon canopy when watering. Move away your homegrown bush lemons to avoid cross contamination. Sorry to be the bearer of not so good news.

Happy Gardening :-)

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Mrs B says...
Thank you Fruity!
Daley’s came back to me via email with advice, so will look into how to deal with it. My babies are well away from the Daley’s seedling for the time being.
Daley’s have told me that it is difficult to say exactly what is wrong. They did not mention bacterial leaf spot. I am very concerned that in the few days close proximity, the diseased Daley’s seedling may have infected my other plants. Only time will tell.

Based on Daley’s advice, I have removed the worst spotted leaves and cleaned each leaf with soapy water.

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Update: Daley’s have offered to grant me a full refund. I had contacted them the day after receiving it with my concerns in line with its policy.

I have posted it back to them so that it can be looked after properly. I do appreciate Daley’s commitment to service, and would buy from them again.

I will keep an eye on my other bush lemon seedlings, as there is a reasonable chance they may have become infected with leaf spot (if that is what the problem was).





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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Mrs B

That's an excellent result. They did took responsibility for their oversight. May be they are not sure about the disease that's why they didn't mention it to you. But it might be something sinister to warrant a refund or replacement.

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Mrs B says...
Question for Bush Lemon lovers!

I have two young BL seedlings. When can I safely start pruning them?

These lemons are destined for urban life in a pot, and I may want to use Bonsai techniques to keep the tree small.

Any advice from fellow BLLs would be welcome.

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Julie says...
Type in 'Trees in Bags' in the search box, There is a fairly lengthy article on Bonsai bags which may interest you. I don't know if these are still available, or if Daleys still stock them, but have a look.

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Mrs B says...
Thank you Julie! I am stoked that my Bush Lemon seedlings are growing, and wonder if anyone can give me advice on them.

Should I remove the numerous but healthy lower leaves?

How to get the straight one in the ceramic pot to make a “Vee” or crutch?


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Roy59 says...
I bought two bush lemon trees from daleys in feb 2011, 8 years have passed and still no blossoms or fruit. One tree died in first year the survivor now a beautifull green tree 2 mtrs tall. Someone from daleys told me could be gall wasp...cleared all galls 2 yrs ago still no fruit contacted daleys again someone said...they come from seed so takes 10 years to fruit. hoping the tree fruits in 2 years.

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