CHEMPEDAK FRUIT ARE SOLD WHERE IN AUSTRALIA? (forum)

CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION starts with ...
WHAT MONTHS ARE THEY SOLD?
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PRICE?
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WHAT COUNTRY WERE THEY GROWN?
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHOOT THE CHEMPEDAK FOR SALE, THEN ADD THE PICTURE HERE?BLOW IT UP IF IT IS TOO SMALL... :)
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HONEY SWEET CHEMPEDAK FRUIT...OH MY GOD,MOVE OVER DURIAN ETC.

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Time: 29th August 2009 8:26pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Chempedak Champion,

Yes I have tasted some bought in Rusty market Cairns QLD, $3 per kg. They are realy nice and sweet. Once you have it you are hooked. They are quite hard to find but not impossible. I was told that those trees are not very productive that why you don't see them sold in markets. The champedak season is between December to April.

Time: 29th August 2009 9:10pm

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Cuong says...
what is the difference between the Chempedak and Jackfruit???

Time: 29th August 2009 11:29pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Cuong,

Jack fruit fruits are sort of rounded fruit and can be very big (20kg) and flesh can be wet or dried.

The real chempedak fruit (mit' to^ nu ~) is not big. It has the shape of a long water melon but the whole fruit is only about 3 Kg.

To open, you just hold the stem, cut the skin to open then pull out the whole segment bunch like a grape bunch.

There are some jack fruits which is a cross between the normal and the chempadak too and can be round or oblongated shape, the size is also in between too.

I hope this helps


Time: 30th August 2009 7:56am

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Ellen says...
They're selling Chempedek down here in Cabramatta market, when it is in season.

Time: 30th August 2009 8:05am

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Cuong says...
Thanks Jujube, that makes sense..

I guess the Vietnamese dont really differentiate between the two and just view the two as two different types of Jackfruit?

Time: 30th August 2009 10:26am

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ELLEN:
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WHEN IS IT SOLD IN SEASON AT CABRAMATTA?
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IS CABRAMATTA MARKET A WEEKEND MARKET?
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WHICH COUNTRY IS IT FROM?

Time: 30th August 2009 10:56am

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Ellen says...
Chempedak Champion

Cabramatta is one of the SW suburb in Sydney area . It is also a suburb that contained the majority of multicultural ethnics of the SE Asia communities (Laos, Campodia, Vietnam, Chinese, etc.)
Due to the large numbers of Asians lived here, so they set up the CBD with full of Asian shopping stores,restaurants, full of Asian foods, as well as products.

It is not a weekend market, but most of the time we all worked on the week days so we don't have time to shop during the weekday, so most of the folks would come down there to shop on the weekend, it is then that those shop owners down there would get deliveries of new stocks from their fruit warehouse .

There are about more than a dozen of fruit and vegies shops down there who would carried Asian fruits and vegies varieties, but only 1 or 2 shops that would carried Chempedak, Langsat duku, wampi, etc. (This is b/c it is pricy and rare commodity)
Especially if you want Chempedek, you must shop between 11am-2pm on Saturday as they are a fast mover this one. And it is only available during the months of Oct -Dec.

It is all happening right here in DownUnder .

Time: 31st August 2009 9:25am

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ELLEN/埃伦 ELLEN :
...............HOW MUCH DO THE CHEMPEDAK COST IN CABRAMATTA?
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SORRY.
WHEN I ASKED 'WHAT COUNTRY IS IT FROM',I MEANT WHAT COUNTRY IS THE CHEMPEDAK FRUIT PIECES, SOLD IN CABRAMATTA,BROUGHT FROM.
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IS IT BROUGHT FROM AUSTRALIA,MALAYSIA OR THAILAND?
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WHAT ARE THE ADDRESSES AND NAMES OF THE 1 OR 2 SHOPS WHICH SELL THE CHEMPEDAK?
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DO YOU,OR CAN YOU,TAKE A PHOTO OF THE STORE/LOCATION?
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MAYBE A YouTube VIDEO WOULD BE GOOD.
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TO ALL PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAKFRUIT AND CHEMPEDAK,JAKFRUIT HAS A ROUGH SKIN AND CHEMPEDAK HAS A SMOOTH SKIN.
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TRANSLATION :
埃伦 ELLEN ：
...............多少呢卡市CHEMPEDAK的成本？
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对不起。
当我问'哪个国家科技的'，我的意思是哪个国家在卡市，令它从CHEMPEDAK果粒，出售。
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是它使来自澳大利亚，马来西亚和泰国？
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有哪些1或2的店铺，出售CHEMPEDAK地址和姓名？
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您，还是可以，开始图片的商店/位置？
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也许YouTube视频会是好事。

Time: 31st August 2009 12:59pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
CHEMPEDAK CROSSED WITH JAKFRUIT IS NOW BEING GROWN AND EATEN IN CAIRNS.
SO IT HAS A ROUGH SKIN LIKE JAKFRUIT,AND IS EASY TO OPEN,LIKE A CHEMPEDAK.
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DID ANYONE RECORD THE FRUITV ON SBS'S FOOD LOVER'S GUIDE TODAY?
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WHO MISSED IT,AND WOULD LIKE TO WATCH IT?

Time: 31st August 2009 1:14pm

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Ellen says...
Chempedak Champion

I've missed the FruitTV on SBS, if you could upload it on youtube and give us the link, that would be great.

As for the Chempedak availability in Cabra, I think they send it from Northern Australia, and it's depends to on the price, if they got plenty in, then it's not so pricy, but if it is only a few in then they're selling it quite expensive, as $20+/Kg. So it is all depends on how many they were able to get their hands on and brought it down here to us.

I'll go down to Cabra this weekend and take a picture of the shop name for you.

Time: 31st August 2009 4:02pm

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Jantina says...
I too would be grateful if you put it on Youtube.

Time: 31st August 2009 4:19pm

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trikus says...
A mate has a single Chempedak tree , and it often has lots of fruit , but very little flesh inside . PITY as the few bits there are taste fantastic . This one has very small fruits with very long stalks . I have planted a tree bought from Limberlost , just mulched and fed it up , and got the sprinkler on it now .
Hope to have fruit in the next year or so . It has been in the ground for 2 years now and has grown to nearly 4 m tall .

Time: 31st August 2009 6:59pm

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amanda says...
Hey Trikus... r u going to do a My Edibles page? would love to see some of the FNQ fruit! Makes me homesick for Rustys Market n Cairns...I hear Rustys pub is no longer there or gone trendy or something... :-(

Time: 31st August 2009 9:20pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
VIDEO OF JAKFRUIT CROSSED WITH A CHEMPEDAK - http://chempedakfruit.blogspot.com/
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FRESH OFF THE PRESS,AFTER 7 HOURS OF SEARCHING ETC.
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CHEMPEDAK'S ARE MORE EASILY OPENED, WITH LESS STICKY-FINGERS, THAN JAKFRUIT.

Time: 31st August 2009 9:26pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION,

Many thanks for the Video. As you have already specified that this fruit is not a pure chempadek but a hybrid of jackfruit and chempadek.

The real one very small and long stalk like Trikus described earlier. I have tasted both this one and the real one and this one is closed enough to the real chempadek, can be bought from Rusty market Cairns for $3 per Kg.

Time: 1st September 2009 7:07am

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Ellen says...
Hi Nguyet

The video in the link is the chempadek fruit

http://www.capetrib.com.au/jakfruit.htm

Time: 1st September 2009 11:27am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,

No the one in the vedio is a hybrid of jack fruit and chempadek smaller version, the same as the one in the photo.

The real chempadek has cylinder shape just like a fat bottle.
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Time: 1st September 2009 1:25pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
MAYBE THIS Jakfruit x chempedak SHOULD BE CALLED JAK-DAK OR JAK'DAK.
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CHEMPEDAK IN THAILAND ARE MOSTLY ONLY SOLD IN THE SOUTH EG SOUTH OF SULAT THANI.
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SO THE CHEMPEDAK ARE NOT FOUND IN BANGKOK/KHRUNG THEP?

Time: 1st September 2009 1:55pm

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CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW FOR THIS FOLLOWING INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THE JAKFRUIT X CHEMPEDAK CAN BE TASTED.
THIS IS WHERE THE FRUITV WAS FILMED.
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SCOMAZZONS FRUIT & VEGETABLES

Deirdre Scomazzon
Scomazzon Road, Mossman, Qld, 4873
Phone: 07 4098 3446
Email: deir@conxx.com

Roadside shop open 7 days for fresh locally-grown fruit and vegetables. Exotic tropical fruit ice creams a speciality. 6km north of Mossman.
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http://www.australiantropicalfoods.com/index.php/food-trails/rainforest/

Time: 1st September 2009 5:04pm

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Time: 1st September 2009 6:19pm

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Ellen says...
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Here is 3 shops that carried the rare fruits. But only The Always Greener shop that carried Chempedak when it is in season

Win Minh shop is right at the corner of the multi-level parking lot right next to the Closed Kiosk .

Always greener is right at the bottom level of the Multi-level parking lot.

As for Yung Lee shop , it is in one of the small alley shop, one alley down from where the Always Greener shop is.
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Time: 6th September 2009 5:39pm

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Ellen says...
Fruits that is in Season RIGHT NOW in CBD Cabra.'s market is...
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Time: 6th September 2009 5:52pm

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amanda says...
Great pics Ellen! It's my dream to have a stall like this at our local farmers market on Sat mornings - I hope to introduce people (especially kids) to "different" taste sensations! :)
Ellen - have u tried Wampee? I have put two in and would appreciate some feedback on what they taste like?

Time: 6th September 2009 7:07pm

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Ellen says...
Thank you Amanda.

And Yes, I've tried Wampee on a few occasion, when it is in season and available down in Cabra's market.

they're nice sweet and sour, more sweet I think, if you left it really ripe when picked. But the skin is silky & very easily bruised, but don't be fool by that, on the inside it is undamaged. I think where you're located Amanda, it will take off well with the warm weather.
Tran, who is down in Melbourne was able to plantt this, so you will have no problem at all.

Me too, I've just repotted 2, 1 is Guy Sam and 1 is Yeem Pay (with elongated shape) and just 2 weeks after, I can see they're quite happy, they are grooming well .

You'll enjoy the fruits Amanda .

Time: 6th September 2009 7:31pm

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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
Are wampee's in season right now in Cabramatta? I was there this weekend but could not see any.I'm not sure what it looks like but I didn't see any fruits that resembles the picture in Daleys I ended up buying 4 starfruits for $14 . It's so expensive but tasted so good.I was so surprise at the Wax Jambu's selling for like $12 a kg. I am planting my white Wax Jambu into the ground next week and hopefully I can get my own in 2 years time.

Time: 6th September 2009 8:11pm

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Michael says...
Hi Ellen - The Orange Habanero chilli plant you gave me didn't make it through the winter. I plant it into the ground and cover it with frost material but still it died on me . Hope the Dorset Naga I gave you is fairing alot better.

Time: 6th September 2009 8:15pm

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Ellen says...
Hi Michael,

No Wampees is not yet available, and when you look out for them, they're similar to trai' bon` bon. Those seller used to displayed it as it came in clusters on the fruit stand. But since it is getting rare and people plucking it, they bagged it now, so you can't be choosy when picking to buy.
I'd say they won't be available for another 3 months yet Michael.

The Dorset Naga you gave me, it went buck naked I thought it was going to die . But I kept watering every 2-3 days to keep the roots system moist hoping that it's like all the other chillies, and yes it is coming back now the baby leaves are coming through, plenty of flowers but no fruits, I wonder if I should just put it in the ground . But to scare to take a chance, since we've been getting warm and cold at night .

I still have some seeds for that orangy-yellow habanero, and if it have went to chillies heaven, I'll propagate some more, and will keep 1 for you.

You know the funny thing I went and bought a pre-bagged of the wax jambus in the market, there was 1 fruit in it that look so unusual from the Viet's ordinary wax jambu, it tasted much sweeter and inside the seed (it only had 1 seed) was germinating, so I saved it and potted it right away .
I am not a big eater of the wax jambu, but this one is a must, since it tasted sweet like those in VN

How is your Carambola tree doing, Michael ? Mine had shed all it leaves since we had all those cold winds. I just hope it will come back.

Time: 7th September 2009 5:54am

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ELLEN :
.................IS THE 'ALWAYS GREENER' SHOP IN DUTTON LANE?
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IS THE 'ALWAYS GREENER' SHOP BETWEEN DUTTON LANE AND JOHN ST OR HILL ST OR HUGHES ST? http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/toilet.aspx?type=toilet&id=df8a2783-96d2-474e-a17d-647b9d6802b5
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IN CANLEY HTS (NEAR CABRAMATTA)THERE IS A 'YUNG LEE TROPICAL FRUITS' SHOP.
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HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHEMPEDAK ETC THERE.
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THIS NEXT SATURDAY,SEPTEMBER 12,THERE MIGHT BE CHEMPEDAK FRUIT, GROWN IN AUSTRALIA,FOR $12/KG, APPROXIMATELY FOR THE NEXT MONTH.
JUST GO TO FLEMINGTON MARKETS NEXT TO FLEMINGTON TRAIN STATION.
THEN TRY TO FIND THIS : SHED/BUILDING D,DOOR/ENTRANCE 6,STALL 235(YELLOW AND BLACK STALL NUMBERS HANGING ABOVE ALL STALLS).
BETWEEN 6 AM AND 2 PM EVERY SATURDAY. http://www.whereis.com/nsw/homebush-west/austin-av?id=6249E12BDC6A0
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AND ALSO THE SAME SELLERS ARE OPEN FOR SALE TO THE PUBLIC AT 'EXOTIC FRUIT TRADERS' IN SHED/BUILDING A FROM MON-FRI 6 AM TO +10 AM.
PHONE 9746 8311.

Time: 7th September 2009 12:16pm

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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
My Carambola tree struggled through the winter .It lost 90% of it's leaves and the ones left are all yellow. However tiny buds are starting to form on the branches so at least there is hope . How is your Wampee tree? Mine is slow growing but survived throught the winter reallly well .

Time: 7th September 2009 1:05pm

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Ellen says...
Chempedak

hahhhaaha so you know the place, not exact to the teeth, but you know the place.I don't know any Dutton Lane street, all I know is it's at the back of John Street & facing the multi-level parking lot.

I've been to the Yung Lee in C/Height, they both belonged to the same family, but the one in the C/Height is being overseeing by the Mom and sometime one of the daughter would come help looking after the shop.
I find that the one in Cabramatta market -Yung Lee even though it is small, it doesn't carry Chempedek only WAmpees and Bo`n Bon, and a few other fruits, price is always cheaper there than anywhere else.

Only Always Greener and Win Minh have Chempedak when it is in season .


Wow, Chempedak from DownUnder and for $12/kg that is awfully cheap.

Thanks for the Info Chempedak

Time: 7th September 2009 1:09pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ALLEN :
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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO Ellen:
................. Gần cửa h

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Ellen says...
hihihi, and you're a Chinese/Viet/Australian at that too!


No, I have not taste Sầu Ri
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Ellen says...
kekekeke

Closed Kiosk, b/c that kiosk been closed over 2 yrs. or more now, used to be a little vendor selling Viet's sweets, etc.

Time: 7th September 2009 6:06pm

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Ellen says...
The Bon Bon are from Thai, if we're lucky they're able to get some from VN .

Yes I do eat bamboo shoots , and no I do not want to grow my own, if I have the land to grow it, then oh yeah.
I find it in a way just like Asparagus but on a much bigger scale, hehehe .

I haven't had the pleasure of tasting fresh Malay's Durian.

Time: 8th September 2009 1:23am

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Cuong says...
bamboo shoots are very invasive and a nightmare to remove the whole plant.

we had to hire an excavator to remove ours when it got really large

also the leaves drops and make a big mess

Time: 8th September 2009 9:06am

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Jantina says...
Hi Cuong, there are clumping and running types of bamboo and like any plant you need to consider mature size and habit before deciding whether you have the room to plant or not.Generally only small growing clumping bamboos are suitable for suburban gardens.

Time: 8th September 2009 9:45am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
My bamboo bush has been running me mad. We have removed this invasive plant 3 times and it keeps coming back and the neibough is not happy. There must be a non invasive type out there for home gardeners.

Time: 8th September 2009 9:50am

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Jantina says...
Hi JUJUBE FOR SALE, if you go to www.bambooworld.com.au they have all sorts of bamboo for sale, clumping, cold hardy, excellent eating, etc etc Cheers Jantina

Time: 8th September 2009 12:10pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Jantina,

Many thanks, Much appreciated.

Very informative site indeed.
yes, there are some non invasive ones avaialble for home gardeners.

Mine doesnot produce good shoots for cooking.

BTW, Bamboo shoot salad with shredded boiled or roasted chicken. Yummy.

Time: 8th September 2009 1:30pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ELLEN :
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DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN YOUR GARDEN FOR ANOTHER FRUIT TREE?.
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IF YES,THEN YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR YOUR BAMBOO.
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ACTUALLY A BAMBOO IS LESS WIDE THAN A FRUIT TREE.
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AND THERE IS ONLY ONE BAMBOO SPECIES GOOD FOR GROWING IN THE CITY BACKYARD.
CAN YOU GUESS THE NAME?
AND IT IS ONLY MAYBE ABOUT $10-$20.
I WILL CHECK SOON FOR AN EXACT PRICE.
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SOMEONE HAS SAID THAT SOMETIMES IN SOME AREAS OF AUSTRALIA,THERE IS MALAYSIAN FROZEN DURIAN FOR SALE,BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
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ONCE I SAW IT FOR SALE,BUT I THINK THAT IT WAS THAI DURIAN LABELLED AS MALAYSIAN DURIAN AND SOLD FOR A HIGHER PRICE,AN EXTRA 70% IN COST.

Time: 8th September 2009 2:00pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
AN EXCELLENT WEBSITE FOR MULTILINGUAL FRUIT NAMES :
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CHEMPEDAK : http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Artocarpus.html#integer .
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DOES AUSTRALIA IMPORT MALAYSIAN/THAI CHEMPEDAK?

WHAT IS THE CHEMPEDAK SEASON IN AUSTRALIA?
'ELLEN' SAYS OCT-DEC.
'JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE'SAYS DEC-APRIL.
EXOTIC FRUIT TRADERS SAY SEPTEMBER.

Time: 8th September 2009 2:50pm

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TO 'JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE':
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WHEN YOU SAY HERE, https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/chempedak-fruit-are-sold-where-in-australia/#28908 , THAT JAKFRUIT FLESH IS "...WET OR DRIED",YOU MEAN SOFT AND SWEET OR CRISP/FIRM.


Time: 8th September 2009 3:11pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION,

That exactly what I mean but the Asian shops where I buy jack fruit they describe as wet' or dry'.

I don't buy in Melbourne any more because it is too expensive and not very good too, I wait for holiday then feast myself with chempadek hybrid for $3 per kilo riped from the tree or visit friend and have them for free.

Time: 8th September 2009 3:19pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
EXOTIC FRUIT TRADERS OF SYDNEY NOW SAY THAT CHEMPEDAK GROWN IN AUSTRALIA FRUITS FROM ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY FOR ABOUT MAYBE 2 MONTHS UNTIL THE END OF MARCH.

JAKFRUIT GROWN IN AUSTRALIA MIGHT BE FINISHING NOW,ABOUT MIDDLE SEPTEMBER.
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OR WHAT IS THE SEASON FOR AUSTRALIAN JAKFRUIT?

Time: 13th September 2009 10:25pm

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'CHAO NGOT': WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN ENGLISH ?

Time: 13th September 2009 11:09pm

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
TO ELLEN:
You mentioned that October is when Cabramatta,Sydney starts to sell the Chempedak.

Are they for sale there this October 2009 yet?

Time: 30th October 2009 2:28pm

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Ellen says...
Due to the car park overcrowded situation down in Cabramatta, I don't do shopping down there as often anymore so I am not sure if they had it in October or the next coming months.

Sorry Chempedak Champion

Time: 1st November 2009 8:34am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
This is a real Chempedak tree from a farm in Innisfail.
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Time: 5th January 2010 10:02pm

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trikus says...
Longest Jakfruit I have ever seen , Chempadek are small and round with long stalks . Was just discussing these with local expert growers . They need cross pollination for good fruit set and must be pollinated by other Artocarpus giving the many variable looking hybrids being grown .

Time: 6th January 2010 9:19am

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CHEMPEDAK CHAMPION says...
AUSTRALIAN SEASON:
..................OCT AND NOV?-GROWN IN DARWIN-ACCORDING TO EXOTIC FRUIT TRADERS LTD IN SYDNEY'S FLEMINGTON MARKET,OPEN MON-FRI MORNINGS IN SHED A & SATURDAY MORNINGS SHED D(MORE INFO ABOVE IN EARLIER POST).
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ACTUAL SEASON IS NOT FEB-MARCH,BUT OCT-NOV,ACCORDING TO MAYBE MORE ACCURATE INFO FROM A WOMAN IN EXOTIC FRUIT TRADERS LTD.

Time: 5th April 2010 1:17pm

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trikus says...
It would depend on rainfall and temperature when fruit is ready and may not always be the same time . My Chempadek tree has just died back from a fungus . Seems that Chempadek are very prone to this and that may explain why it is not grown as much as Jakfruit . I am hoping I can save the tree and it will grow back . It started of as a pink flush all over the trunk and a few small branches dieing .
There is often so much mould and mildew on trees I just ignored it .

Time: 5th April 2010 9:58pm

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bill says...
chempadek can also be rough like a jackfruit but the huge difference is in the flavour and texture of the fruit itself. chempadek is richer, sweeter, stronger and if, like me, you get hooked, there is no other fruit you'd rather eat. The texture is not crunchy like jackfruit but soft and fibrous, some would say slimy, but with exquisite flavour and perfume. the unopened fruit does not have the sticky sap that makes jackfruit a nuisance to eat and the season is different, just finishing now here in far nq (end april).

Time: 26th April 2010 10:17am

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amanda says...
Hi trikus n all - do u think the cross between the chempadek and the jackfruit would be ok in my climate, or cooler? Jackfruit grow in Perth - but are chempadeks more tropical?
Is your tree a cross? (hope u save it!?) Does the cross have a name yet?

What does the cross taste like?

Time: 26th April 2010 11:24am

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trikus says...
wnhac [would not have a clue ] I have tasted a few very nice soft jakfruit , maybe they are hybrids ? I have little experience growing out of sub-tropical and the wet tropics so cannot ofer any info f0or all you in temperate areas ..
have heard the term chempajak offered for hybrids . My tree was bought at Limberlost.

Time: 26th April 2010 11:59am

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amanda says...
Hi - The Rare Fruit Rx says: "Chempadek = Artocarpus integer (also known as Temedak, Nakan) widely cultivated in Malaysia and Indonesia, it is like a small cylindrical jackfruit but the skin is almost smooth with only small protrusions. Compared with jackfruit, they are sweeter, have less acidity, a strong aroma and a rich creamy texture. Easy to grow and moderately tolerant of near freezing temperatures"

I guess they would grow ok over here too - we don't get freezing temps.

The cross sounds interesting...I will have to do some googling on chempaJAK - thanks trikus!

Time: 26th April 2010 7:16pm

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Rev says...
yes they are pretty good!

i saw them first in Brunei
next time i go ill bring back a heapof seed. they have very good ones

this is one from North qld

heaps better than jackfruit
i only like jackfruit unripe as a curry

cempedak are for fresh eating

of course i planted all my pips...:D

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Time: 22nd June 2010 3:16am

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Time: 22nd June 2010 3:30am

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Sweetie says...
Are the Chempedak for sale in Cabramatta yet this year in this part of November?

Time: 27th November 2010 6:04am

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Jose says...
GOVT FINES FRUIT SHOP!-The Cabramatta shop,'Always Greener', owned by a Vietnamese owner called 'Nguyen', supplying Chempedak etc, has been fined at least 4 times, and at least twice in just over the last 9 months, for unhygienically cutting fruit, "in a gutter": http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=detail&itemId=3031649051
AND http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=detail&itemId=3043092077
There also is a website which mentions 2 more offences in late 2008, here: http://www.zgeek.com/showthread.php/83222-Fish-market-stores-crabs-in-toilet?s=9a740c8e01c3a1b15a3ab62edba2c9b4&p=1444377&viewfull=1#post1444377
The govt foodauthority website only shows offences in the last 12 MONTHS!, see here: http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/aboutus/offences/penalty-notices/penalty-notice-publication-protocol/
So, buy fruit whole, uncut, and with no cracks?
You never know what liquids 'dribble' onto the fruit.
This sort of food handling gets me p***** off!:)
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Time: 27th November 2010 10:03am

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allybanana says...
Jose take it easy no fruit was cut in the gutter, the fruit was only cut in the open air not inside the shop somthing done world over and in most Australian markets, it sounds like overkill to me. The box of kiwifruit was stored in a gutter contaminated with grey water but there is no mention of greywater on or in the box. Given how picky they were on the other fine it could have been somthing as simple as, a unopened box was temporaly placed on the ground near a gutter after unloading from a truck. Wash the fruit by all means, but please dont invent new crimes, this is someones livelyhood at stake.

Time: 27th November 2010 2:27pm

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John Mc says...
Must be an interesting place that Cabramatta. A bloke should go down there for the day and have a good look around the fruit shops, hey?
I'm thinking round about now would be a good time?

Time: 27th November 2010 3:30pm

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micarle says...
It's a good place to find unusual fruits!! Last time i was there i found and purchased some Achacha( Garcinia humilis ), Sour mangosteen( Garcinia xanthochymus ), Pulasan( Nephelium mutabile )Sweetsop ( Annona squamosa )and some Durians!!! I now have some Garcinia's germinating. There is always something unusual down there! Some of the fruit store's sell seedling fruit trees aswell Lychee's Mango's etc

Time: 27th November 2010 4:26pm

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fruitist says...
Achacha sold here is actually Garcinia laterifolia not G. humilis. Attached is a photo of the champedak x jakfruit hybrid.
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Time: 27th November 2010 6:29pm

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micarle says...
Laterifolia hey!! Will have to re-label. Thanks

Time: 28th November 2010 8:10am

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trikus says...
Great colour in that Chempajak fruitist .
CAn I ask where you got info re, Achcha name .. my research shows your suggestion to be a syn.


Garcinia humilis (garcinia laterifolia)
(Achachair

Time: 28th November 2010 10:14am

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allybanana says...
Jose, thanks for letting me know about that website and I feel I could have said what I said in a friendlier way, please don

Time: 28th November 2010 11:11am

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micarle says...
Yeah i thought Humilis was on the money!! But i think where the problem with Garcinia's starts is the use of the common name's. Bakupari is a common name for Humilis and Brasiliensis. I'm starting to put a nice little collection of Garcinia's together. If anyone has some excess seedlings of the more obscure species they want to sell let me know!

All this talk of Cabra market!!! I'm going to go over there this week.

Time: 28th November 2010 3:51pm

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fruitist says...
Trikus, my photo shows the hybrid of Champedak and Jakfruit. The black bits are the malformed seeds. I ate about 10 arils, equivalent to about 2 fruits.
None of the aerils had a properly formed seed.

Go to the Achacha website and read the FAQs. They admiited that the real common name for their fruit is Achachairu but they left out the 'iru" bit for marketing reasons. G. laterifolia is normally orange red and ovate shape while G. humilis is pale yellow and obovate in shape.

Time: 28th November 2010 7:57pm

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trikus says...
yes , Great colour in that Chempa-jak fruitist . I have a seedling and must plant it .

Time: 29th November 2010 9:18am

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fruitist says...
trikus, how much is the hybrid seedling you bought from limberlost? Have they restarted selling grafted plants?

Time: 30th November 2010 7:38am

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mojo says...
Mike has reired ,so no grafting been done at Limberlost.

Time: 30th November 2010 12:17pm

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mojo says...
Mike has reired ,so no grafting been done at Limberlost.

Time: 30th November 2010 12:17pm

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trikus says...
I got the hybrid and a few sprouted Chempedak seeds from a mate who lives up very close to Limberlost. He knows a lot about Artocarpus and has been planting seeds growing and evaluating the fruits for 15 years that I have known him .

Time: 30th November 2010 4:32pm

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amanda says...
Interesting thread guys. Just out of interest - my kwai muk is now under 50% shade cloth (in a tree bag) and has never looked better! It obviousy doesn't like the intense sun and dry winds here.
Although I did expect it to die out in the open here - so a little tougher than I thought.

Time: 30th November 2010 7:09pm

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fruitist says...
Kwai Muk can take full sun. I think there 2 different Kwai Muk gowing in Australia. One has small un-lobbed leaves and I believe the mother tree is that huge tree in Mt Cootha Botanical Garden, Brisbane. The size of the leaves is 1 finger length x half finger length. The other one has large heavily lobbed leaves. I have the former bearing large (2.5 fingers x 1.5 fingers) irregular shape fruits for 3 years now. The later I have a few 5 years old seedlings kept small in planter bags.

Trikus, I am going up to FNQ around next March/April giving away rarest trees along the way.

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Jantina says...
Nice to see you on the forum again fruitist, largely due to your encouragement and Denise's generosity I now have two varieties of Lucuma growing here.

Time: 1st December 2010 11:30am

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fruitist says...
Jantina, nice to hear that you have collected 2 Lucuma. Are they seedlings or grafted? Do you have happy snaps to share with us? Who is this generous Denise? May be I can persuade her to be generous to me too.

Time: 1st December 2010 4:42pm

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Anthony says...
Jackfruit usually have bigger flesh or pulp, more towards crunchy and aroma is not as strong as chempedak. Chempedak has soft mushy and juicy and usually very sweet flesh.

Time: 8th December 2010 1:41am

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Michael says...
Hi Jo,
It's not nice to have that negative tone towards Ellen . Try writing the following Vietnamese name for Chempedak down and show it the the shop owners - "mit to nu". These shop stock fruits that are in season and possible you went at the wrong season.

Time: 19th December 2010 7:14pm

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Lissa says...
This is an old thread, but I'm wondering if anyone knows where we can get hold of Cempedak in Brisbane or Qld?
Fruit, seed or plants?
Thanks :)

Time: 8th January 2012 6:10am

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David says...
Here Here , i to have been looking for literally years and no luck, Daleys had them under propagation for ages ,i thought great then they just dissappeared . Someone out there must have a tree .Please help out if you can. Thankyou.

Time: 8th January 2012 1:56pm

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Mike says...
A fellow in Cairns has 2 excellent varieties which rival the finest jackfruit and way better than the cross 'cheena'.A year ago I got rid of all my seedlings to re-use the pots as no one seemed interested in taking them and I was not aware of this forum at that time.The poorer types are more sloppy,smelly and have more rag in a smaller fruit.They are native to Malaysia rather than the mountains of southern india like jackfruit.

Time: 8th January 2012 7:36pm

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David says...
Hi Mike, what can i say, what a pity. Dont know why but they are so hard to track down . Thanks David.

Time: 8th January 2012 8:59pm

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Mike says...
Today I have been eating part of a huge Amber jackfruit and they are exceptional.No chempadak could compete with it.In fact you'd spit out all those common named varieties in horror after eating an Amber.I have done my time eating the yellows,sloppies and jackfruit with extreme latex and excess rag.
If I track down any more chempadak of excellent quality I will alert you David.Limberlost had some of fair quality but there are some very good backyard trees with very rich and pleasant tasting fruit.

Time: 10th January 2012 8:42pm

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BJ says...
Hi Mike,
If you have any seeds left over, I'd be glad to pay for them.

Time: 10th January 2012 10:22pm

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Mike says...
BJ I was just about to boil them but I can hook a few out.I have to send some stuff to John Mc and Mary T pretty soon.What is your address then? This cultivar is substantially better in many respects than the dozen or so popular varieties and many others I have tried.I also had a superior vietnamese type with small fruit with easy stem pulling flesh removal from Jujube (lucy and Ian) recently.It almost rivals Amber.Is there anything else in the way of vegies or fruits you are after?

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David says...
Thanks for this info Mike ,i dito what BJ has said. I will keep on the alert for your alert. Once again a big thanks, by the way it is so dry down here in brissy right now hope to get some rain soon, or else will have to supplement, also had the biggest mangosteen on the weekend from james st markets mind you they were $3.50 each. Both had one seed each, so thought ill try my luck to grow them. The mabolo is setting fruit right now like crazy again so will have to water after the big heat tomorrow,the mere thought of you eating the amber makes my mouth water. Have a good night Mike thanks again . David

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Mike says...
I found a little shop in town that had mangosteens for $5kg and they were perfect fresh whoppers.My lazy tree only had 60 or 70 a few weeks ago but they do have multiple fruitings a year.There's is a huge mabolo in yard around the corner from me so I might have a look tomorrow.It has been humid and hot here also compared to normal but the rain has not arrived.The wet season has to be coming soon.

Time: 10th January 2012 11:06pm

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MaryT says...
Mangosteens, Mike! Just send me a box of mangosteens :)

Time: 10th January 2012 11:24pm

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David says...
Im as jealous as all hell, 60 or 70 , its all relative, beleive me.

Time: 11th January 2012 7:48am

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BJ says...
Hi Mike,
If you still have any seeds, i'd like to try some, as I'm putting in a jakfruit hedge at my father's property, which will be around 150m long and Amber seedlings would be a very welcome addition. I'm unsure of what else you have that would be alright in Brisbane. i'd be happy to take anything you have excess of and think would be a good performer here.
I dont have your email - mine is didge (underscore) 2001 (at) hotmail (dot) com
Thanks again,
Bruce.

Time: 12th January 2012 3:11pm

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Mike says...
BJ I'll email you tomorrow from work and get your address.My partner defied me and ate all but a dozen or so of the amber seeds which I can send at least half of to you.There are only 3 or 4 people with this variety and it commands the highest price being superior to even the good thai ones.

Time: 12th January 2012 7:36pm

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David says...
Hi Mike , I know this is cheeky of me to ask, but any chance of one or two of the amber seeds, im curious what makes these so special compared to other jackfruit. Thanks David

Time: 13th January 2012 4:28pm

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Mike says...
David I still haven't got BJ's address but what is yours? It looks like I'll be doing some packing on the weekend.You are probably familiar with,balck gold,gold nugget,honey gold and even the Malysian NS1 jackfruits which are some of the best around especially the latter.They have flesh yields from 35-40%,good taste,lots of latex,soft to medium flesh and yellow to orange/yellow flesh.Amber has more flesh,a bit firmer,unusual amber coloured flesh,excellent tree qualities but it is the lovely fruit salad taste of the flesh that doesn't 'repeat' on you that makes it better.
What other seeds or vegies were you chasing?

Time: 13th January 2012 7:42pm

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David says...
Thanks for the quick reply Mike, I do have a marcotted Gold nugget thats been in the ground for years but is so slow growing, still stands at 1 mtr ,after all this time ,for some reason marcotts down here seem to struggle more than seedlings or grafted trees , my experience anyway. Did have a marcott of a mammea americana from Limberlost years ago ,but the dog had a go at it and that was its demise . So if you have access to mammea seeds ,champadek and the amber id be happy . Was up in Cairns for the first time, back in july this year , dont know why but got a good feeling about the place . Lived in Brissie for 22 yrs now . Anyway heres the email address. dphuntbris@optusnet.com.au
Will email you with address then. Now i dont expect this for free how can i recompence you. Thanks David. Not sure if theres anything i have that you would like

Time: 13th January 2012 9:58pm

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Mike says...
David,I can't rapidly access mammeas or chempadak but I'll see how I go on the weekend.I could have got some good mammey sapotes today.I will email you from work on Monday then.

Time: 13th January 2012 10:21pm

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David says...
Hi Mike ,Thanks for that , bye the way had any experience with Maprang and Matisia. Thanks David.

Time: 13th January 2012 10:26pm

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Mike says...
My brother and a good friend have nice bearing maprangs of mayon chid variety and I have seedlings of them just up.I had 2 bearing trees but chopped them down because of the bug and stem caterpillar attacks.I have eaten quite a variety of types in SE Asia including wan and some of the isaan ones.Matissia are a bit thin on the ground but I have eaten quite a few in the last 20 years or so.The trees get huge and good ones taste more like mango than pumpkin and have smaller seeds and more flesh.Thre cap pulls back and leaves are paler ring when they are ripe.

Time: 13th January 2012 10:53pm

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David says...
Sounds yum

Time: 14th January 2012 12:40am

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Mike says...
David and BJ packed and ready to roll for a Thursday arrival with luck.A couple of plants chucked in at the end are unlabelled and less protected.They are krachai and a maprang (mayon chid) seedling.

Time: 16th January 2012 9:03pm

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David says...
That was quick ,thanks Mike, forgive know what maprang is not sure of Krachai. Thanks David

Time: 16th January 2012 9:47pm

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Mike says...
I just stuff things in the bag that were handy until it reached 500g and krachai was handy.It is a small asian ginger used in many thai and malaysian meals.Just discard anything you would not use or would rather not grow.

Time: 16th January 2012 9:59pm

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David says...
Hi again , is mayon chid the variety name Mike, its pouring cats and dogss at the moment 38mm of rain today since 8am this morning. Off to bed, by the way Mike did have a grafted Duku years ago to . Lonkkong cultivar i think grew quite well . Got a keppel from Limberlost in July ,doing well, the Krachai sounds great ,love asian food.

Time: 16th January 2012 11:11pm

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Mike says...
Yes maprang has only two'good' cultivars wan and mayon chid.My duku and longkong have not fruited yet after 5 years but my limberlost kepels did and disgraced themselves so were cut from the backyard team.After chewing on dust for weeks I had 115mm last night in storms and everything has perked up.

Time: 16th January 2012 11:53pm

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David says...
Back again ,Mike is Limberlost just selling bad seedlings or is there such a thing as a good Kepel, i mean you here all the mystery surrounding its alleged flavour and the resulting effect on your body ie; makes you smell of violets ,is this just marketing hype, or do good strains exist .Have a great day .David

Time: 17th January 2012 7:33am

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Mike says...
I have tried kepels from 5 sources and they have all been ordinary,looked the same and did make me smell better than I usually do.The ones

Time: 17th January 2012 6:09pm

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Mike says...
It submitted by itself,anyway they all look like wild types here to me and mine paid the ultimate price for not covering themselves in glory.

Time: 17th January 2012 6:12pm

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David says...
Oh well , didnt cost much to buy, and it will be a challenge to grow it here ,i like challenge, havnt tried maprang what do they taste like Mike.

Time: 17th January 2012 8:00pm

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Mike says...
David maprangs vary alot across SE Asia with many being quite sour.Wan is the sweetest and mayon chid has a sweet/sour balance and sweeten with ripening.They are just like small orange mangoes that you can eat the skin and flesh of.I suppose there is a slight apricot taste (hence apricot mango),mango and their own taste mixed and they look very appetising and can be cooked.Good types should be much more popular here.

Time: 17th January 2012 8:28pm

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Mike says...
Having eaten a variety of chempadek before and recently re-acquainting myself with a couple of very nice types it might it might be worth mentioning my experience compared to what offered in this thread.I found that many have poor flesh yield,all have soft flesh,most are smooth, elongated and 2=3kg.On the weekend I had a beauty that was a smooth 3kg specimen,almost rag free,orange/red fleshed with excellent flesh yield and a rich complex taste.It was the best I had tried and the equal of most jackfruit.To my surprise the second rough skinned elongated irregular variety at 7kg was better.It had large yellow bulbs of a very sweet taste.The fruit expert and his Malaysian wife who has the tree planted them around 25 years ago.

Time: 1st February 2012 7:16pm

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David says...
Hi Mike, Did you take any photos, of either the fruit or trees. David

Time: 1st February 2012 8:07pm

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Mike says...
David no I didn't and the smaller type did have a striking skin pattern and the colourof the flesh was pretty intense.They were certainly quite different from the chempadek pictures in this thread with the larger yellowfleshed one being like a twisted version of that in jujubes posted picture.

Time: 1st February 2012 8:15pm

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Rowan says...
I have three Chempedak seedlings for sale. They came from Indonesia as a freebie with some other seeds I bought. They are around 15 cm tall and healthy but they cannot grow here and they will die when the cooler weather hits in a couple of months so I need someone to take them off my hands. First in first served - rowan.99@gmail.com

They will probably cost around $10 to post to Qld or northern NSW.

Time: 24th February 2012 6:50pm

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