Cherimoya - leaves looking crook (forum)

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Pls. help: Recently planted (1 mth) Cherimoya seedling seems to be suffering in new environment. Full sun, well drained, drip irrigation, but not well protected and semi-exposed recently to very powerful southerly.

Any help much appreciated. Thanks,

Ben


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Time: 24th October 2012 8:57am

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Jantina says...
They do look a bit tatty Benson. I'm no expert but have several cherimoya growing and their leaves look a bit tatty now too. Jason, our resident cherimoya expert tells me that the new leaves push off the old ones at this time of the year.
If these are already the new seasons leaves then perhaps some shadecloth positioned to strategically shelter it from the worst winds might help until it aclimatizes. Some plants go backwards a bit with transplant shock and then come good, some seasol is helpful for this.
It certainly has nice big leaves for a 1 month old seedling.

Time: 24th October 2012 9:09am

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J says...
My cherimoya trees drop their leaves and sprout growth at around this time. Ratty looking leaves seem to be the norm around this time in melbourne for cherimoya.

Time: 24th October 2012 12:08pm

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John Mc says...
All mine are/were looking like that around this time of the year. I've since pruned them back to within 200/250mm from the main branches. I do this to promote a very strong backbone and scaffold branches to carry the weight of the fruit and leaves as they develop.
There is one variety called a Forbidden fruits variety that is still growing very strongly so I'm a bit perplexed as to when I should be pruning it.


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Time: 24th October 2012 3:16pm

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Db says...
That looks awesome John Mc, how old is your tree?

Time: 24th October 2012 3:28pm

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Jason says...
I finally grew a few !!~Awesome~!! tasting fruits on my Fino De Jete this season... I'm not sure why the sudden improvement in flavour, it hasn't been abnormally warm, colder if anything. The only thing I may have done to the tree is tip a few kilos of magnesium (the cheap stuff cows eat) on it, not 100% sure I did that but fairly sure I did!:) because I was going a bit wild with magnesium last Spring.

So I figure like I suspected that Magnesium for my dirt is a very good thing. BTW Jantina.. June 25/26 ish 2013 might be a good day, lets see



Time: 24th October 2012 5:05pm

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John Mc says...
They are reasonably fast growers, the above tree is 3 years old. I have some Fina, White and Sofia's comming on this year, can't wait.

Yeah, talking about ferts, I saw an interesting homebrew on the net. It's just 2 parts B&B,
1 part Mag sulf (epsom Salts) and one part Potassium Sulphate.
Seeing that I have over 100kg's of mag sulf and potassium sulf, I thought
I'd give it a go. You can't beat mulch though.

EDIT: I should clarify "three years old', The tree has been in it's current location for three years, it was probably two years old before I bought it.

Time: 24th October 2012 6:23pm

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Jantina says...
Jason, if you're saying what I think you're saying WOOOHOOO !!! Fantastic, sounds like fertilizing was a great idea!
Give Annie a hug for me please.


John, pleased to report that those cherimoya seedlings you sent me are sprouting again, we may be lucky and get a great tasting fruit from one or more of them.

Time: 24th October 2012 8:34pm

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VF says...
Great looking fruit John Mc - I have a young F/F, so I'm pleased to see that it's a good producer (happy for you too).
Thanks both Jason and John for sharing your secrets to Cherimoya success - guess tomorrow will be magnesium day! I'll try on Atemoya too.

Time: 24th October 2012 8:52pm

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John Mc says...
Yes Jantina, I've been cutting the tops off some of my 1 yo's and grafting other Atemoyas/Cherimoyas onto them.
I may be going past that large cherimoya tree tomorrow, I read that you're chasing more seed? Peter from Adelaide is looking for more as well, It will probably be too late now, but if there is any ripe fruit, I'll send one to you to try. Hopefully there will at least be seeds inside the empty shells of the fallen fruit.

Time: 24th October 2012 9:43pm

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Jantina says...
Thanks John, check out the germination list that VF posted, very interesting, it even talks about Myricaria which is a bit different to what we have I think but worth a try seeing how as everyone is having so much success, not !

Time: 25th October 2012 7:26am

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Jason says...
Jantina I have about 60 magnesium enhanced Cherimoya seeds here if you need some. They are fresh so you should get 100% germination. I can certainly spare to give away 20 of them :). They grow much better at your place so it would be good for them to be there.

Time: 26th October 2012 11:29am

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Jason says...
P.S if anyone knows the proper amount of Magnesium Chloride I should be using per tree let me know :! because last year I just threw a couple kgs around each one... nothing died and it seemed to help everything but the amount did seem rather a lot when you most people talk in grams with magnesium :D?

Time: 26th October 2012 11:38am

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Jantina says...
Yes please Jason, are you coming over this way anytime soon? We are going to a karate tournament Nov. 3 at Warnaambool and could call in then, still have your Myrica seeds in the fridge.

Time: 26th October 2012 5:04pm

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Ivan says...
Hi Janita - How are your custard apples and cherimoyas going?


Time: 5th November 2012 6:32pm

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Jantina says...
If you mean me Ivan I don't have any custard apples. I do however have cherimoya Fino De Jete, Sofia and a large un-named variety as well as 4 seedlings John Mc sent me and they are all making lovely new growth. My biggest one , the un-named flowered last year but I stuffed up the pollinating because it was so busy around here so hopefully it will flower again and I get the pollinating done.

Time: 5th November 2012 10:44pm

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