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Hi all, just wondering if anybody out there could tell me where I can find some cedar bay cherry plants for sale. Next one on my little growing list of eugenias to get. Any help will be appreciated
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Time: 17th July 2014 8:38pm

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Diana says...
Hi cedar bay cherry. They are fairly easy to find around Brisbane, e.g. edible landscapes nursery at Northey St city farm. They are very susceptible to myrtle rust. Also called beach cherry.

Time: 18th July 2014 1:46pm

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ivepeters says...
Shipards Herb Farm
http://herbs-to-use.com/herbs-for-sale/trees-fruits-vegetables-legumes-rare-edibles.html

They are about half the size of the one's at Daley's

Myrtle rust is a problem,when it is warm humid, long rainy weather.

Time: 18th July 2014 1:58pm

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Don says...
Thanks Ive and Diana will look upboth of them.
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Time: 19th July 2014 3:32pm

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Jenny says...
Hi Don I have two just-germinated seedlings if you have trouble finding them elsewhere.

Time: 20th July 2014 6:15pm

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Don says...
How much would you want for them Jenny? Where abouts in brisbane are you?

Time: 6th August 2014 5:13am

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Jenny says...
You can have them Don, I can't resist sticking a seed in a pot. I'm in Calamvale. They are only pathetic tiny spikes at the moment though, they popped up early winter & haven't done any growing since so if you want them now you're welcome or I'm happy to keep them until at least they have a leaf or two! My email scodz at bigpond dot com

Time: 6th August 2014 10:40am

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Linton says...
Eugenia reinwardtianas - they grow well in Melbourne also which I have bought from various suppliers.

This one from Daleys is putting out new growth right now in the middle of winter so it's not fazed by the cold!
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Time: 14th August 2014 1:26pm

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Don says...
Thanks Linton, always good to see them keep powering on through winter!

Time: 31st August 2014 4:49pm

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Linton says...
Was not very impressed with the fruit on my small Cedar Bay Cherry from Daleys which I tried last year when it fruited for the first time.

A few days ago I had the pleasure of visiting a grower of a large fruiting variety whose plants, about 4 years old, are presently loaded with fruit. They were about the size of a normal cherry only oval, a bit like a large quails egg. When I tried one it was delicious, very sweet and with no acidity. Despite many reports stating that the pulp of the Cedar Bay Cherry is scant which is also the case with the fruit from my tree, this one had plenty of flesh to munch into.

So my question begs, is this species highly variable with regard to the fruit quality and am I able to improve the quality of the fruit on my existing tree? The ones I visited were growing in greenhouse conditions, full shade, and fruiting in pots. I would love my plant to produce fruit like those ones. So I wonder if it can be achieved by improving the growing conditions or if it might be waste of time if the plant is simply a poor producing one. The pic of my fruits from last year, and the ones I just tried were about double in size.

Await your comments, thank you.
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Time: 20th January 2018 8:43pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
I grew it in Vic as seedlings of nice fruiting bushes, but mine were thin fleshed. You could try cuttings of known good plants and see if your environment is the cause. In the wild they are common on exposed beachfront, ie hot full sun.

Time: 21st January 2018 5:38pm

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denise1 says...
Hi Linton, I am really keen to grow the tasty ones if you ever have seeds to spare. Sorry i dont have anything to swap for them as I am living in a new area starting a new garden. and all the trees I brought with me will take years to fruit. The Cedar bay cherries I have can get to a good size but all quite tasteless.

Time: 21st January 2018 8:48pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton

Cedar bay cherry and the common guava (psidium guajava) come from the same family 'myrtaceae'. Being said that if we try to grow guava in the open around Melbourne the taste of the fruit will not reach its full potential because they are naturally grown in the tropics and warm subtropics. In my opinion that's one of the reasons why your cedar bay cherry is not reaching its full potential which regards to taste. If you are not yet growing it in a poly tunnel or green house try it maybe the taste of the fruits will improve next time.

Time: 22nd January 2018 6:52am

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Linton says...
I was also thinking that the high temperatures here in Melbourne might not be prolonged sufficiently for the Cedar Bays to produce decent fruit, even though we have been having successive heatwaves with temperatures in the 40's over Summer. However it is not feasible for me to install a greenhouse or poly tunnel at my place to extend the season.

It's unfortunate that it's not possible to obtain cuttings from those good fruiting plants that I tried although the grower has got small seedlings started which I intend to try but cuttings would have been better. Those plants originally came from Lilydale Herb Farm which closed down a few years ago. So if anyone in Melbourne ever bought Cedar Bay plants from that place 4 or 5 years ago they should be in possession of the same excellent variety.

Time: 22nd January 2018 8:42pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
G'day Linton

Yes it might have been a more superior variety that you have tasted. Also it's essential to ask the grower of the superior fruit what are his cultural and or special practices with regards to growing an excellent cv of cedar bay cherry. Might also help you to improve yours.

Yep the growing season in Melb is frustratingly a tad shorter compared to NSW and beyond. If only it get extended even by a couple of weeks it will surely make a big difference to a lot of tropical and sub tropical plants. AAHHH .... so near yet so far.

Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 23rd January 2018 9:04am

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Fruitylicious1 says...
G'day Linton

Just a follow up on how to improve your cedar bay cherry taste. Some people improve the sugar content of their tree's fruits by sprinkling some sulphate of potash around the tree and watering it in with two teaspoonful of epsom salt mixed in with 10 liters of H2O.

I don't know if you have tried it already. Just a follow on.

As Always....Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 27th January 2018 9:27pm

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Linton says...
Dear Fruity

It's not clear what you said about adding those things. When is the best time to put that stuff on the tree and if it is to improve the taste of the fruit it should only be done when the tree is fruiting, correct or not?

I have moved the tree under cover in full shade and it's growing much better now with new growth forming and currently having a second flowering at the same time. I find that most eugenia species seem to do much better in deep shade where I live....growing them in dry sandy ground they tend to burn on hot days. Cheers!
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Time: 2nd February 2018 8:22pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton

Sorry for not elaborating more on sweetening sour fruits by addition of trace elements to the soil especially in southern states like Vic where the growing season and heat is shorter.

This technique is mostly done on citrus trees so I'm not sure if it's applicable to bay cherry bushes. What some fruit tree gurus suggest is to sprinkle around the tree 6 handfuls of sulphate of potash and water it in with two tablespoons of Epsom salt mixed with 10 liters of H2O. This is best applied during fruit set after flowering to take effect. Just calculate how much you need to apply to your plant according to rate mentioned for mature trees. So yours must be of smaller proportion.

As Always....Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 6th February 2018 6:42am

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Linton says...
Dear Fruity

There appears to be a contradiction with the dosage rate of Epsom Salt you recommended. In your first submission on 27 Jan you state to use 2 teaspoons of Epsom Salt per 10 litres of water.

But in your second installment on 6 Feb, you say to use 2 tablespoons of Epsom Salt in 10 litres of water. Could you please confirm which is the correct amount. Thank you.

Time: 17th February 2018 9:17am

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton

Sorry for my oversight, the 1st entry on the 27th of January 2018 is the correct one 2 teaspoon of Epsom salt per 10 liters of water. Again, my apologies for the erratum.

Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 17th February 2018 8:11pm

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Markmelb says...
I used similar applications on citrus a few years ago only to set them back a bit - i think using gypsum a better way to go?

Time: 19th February 2018 1:28pm

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