Fruit trees in pots (forum)

Cindy starts with ...
Hi all

I've really enjoyed reading the forum topics.

Can anyone assist me with somewhere to look for some information on growing fruit trees in pots. Should I look for dwarf varities? Do they provide as much fruit?

is there any possiblity that I could grow raspberries on the Central COast?

So many questions and so much more reading to do!!!

Thanks
Cindy

Time: 20th September 2007 7:52pm

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Leona says...
Dwarf varieties are preferable if available but you certainly can grow many non-dwarf ones too. Growing them in a pot will actually dwarf them anyway. I have a shahoot mulberry, dwarf apples, citrus (dwarf and non-dwarfs), guavas, mango, lychee, white sapote, Brazillian cherry, Barbados cherry, loquat pomegranite, Irish strawberry tree, lilly pillies, dwarf peach, bay tree and avocado all growing in pots - many of these are in fruit. You will generally not get as much fruit as you would with a planted tree though. I dont know how much cold weather you get on the Central Coast but you do need a relatively high amount of chilling hours for raspberries. If your chilling hours are insufficent, you could always set up a microclimate to suit ;-) Good luck!

Time: 20th September 2007 8:47pm

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Correy says...
Cindy,

Leona is exactly right A lot of fruit trees that aren't put on a dwarfing rootstock are able to stay dwarfed in pots.

Although a planted tree 3 times the size will give more fruit it is said that you will get more fruit proportionally in the pot and you should get fruit quicker.

Here is some fantastic reading material on pots.

Trees in Bags Boost Productivity - Very long but should open your mind to the possibilities.

Forum: Dwarf Fruit Trees in Pots/Bonsai Bags - More discussion on this forum.

Below is a picture of some of the fruit trees I am growing in Pots.

I Currently Have:

Lychee Tree - Bosworth 3

Tahitian Lime Tree

Washington Navel

Cara Cara

Fig Black Genoa

Dwarf Coffee Tree Cactui

Coffee Tree K7

Mango Tree - Glen

Black Sapote Ricks Late (Chocolate Pudding Tree) - After tasting this at tropical fruit world I had to get them. I may actually plant this one in the ground though.

Black Sapote - Bernicker

Star Fruit or Carambola

Dwarf Peach Tree

Plum Tree - Gulf Gold - Covered in green ripening plums after a year

Star Ruby Grapefruit

Dwarf Macadamia Tree

There are probably some I have missed but I put a picture. One good thing about having them all together is that they are easy to water and they often protect each other with partial shade. Also instead of walking around a huge property you have everything in one place.

Also I find you can move the plants around a bit if they are suffering from too much sun. Try doing that when they are in the ground :)
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Time: 22nd September 2007 7:16am

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Cindy says...
Thank you both so much. I love reading about what other people are planting.

I've never heard of a Black Sapote before so I think I will add this tomy list!

I'm off to Wyee this afternoon to our local nursery that you supply to see what they have in stock.....

Correy that article was extremely informative to read, thanks!

Time: 22nd September 2007 11:33am

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Leona says...
No worries Cindy. Hey Correy, great collection you have there! I agree with you when you say that pots are great as you can move them around too...it definitely comes in handy when the weather is harsh.

Time: 23rd September 2007 12:10am

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Lisa says...
Hsve any of you ever heard of someone growing a paw paw tree in pot? We sre in the military, so I'm really intrigued with trees in a pot now!

Time: 14th November 2007 1:55am

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Correy says...
Hi Lisa, Yes they will grow in pots. The Babaco is another great one similar that is great for pots although totally different taste.

I included a picture of a pawpaw for you. Have you got any pictures?
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Time: 14th November 2007 8:04am

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Lisa says...
Thank you for your response! I will look into the other variety you mentioned. I haven't heard of it before. I'm really excited at the prospect of being able to extend my space with pots! I'm a canning fool, so it's nice to think I may be able to grow some of my own!


Time: 14th November 2007 8:09am

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Correy says...
Here is a picture of how my 2 year old glenn mango tree is going in a pot.
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Time: 2nd December 2007 9:29am

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HappyEarth says...
Hey guys,

I have a few question regarding fruit trees in grown in pots:

-what sort of potting mix and type of pot you use
-Do you water these by hand or do you have some other type of irrigation set up for them?
-How often do you re-pot them?

Hope your all having a great day!

Rich
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Time: 9th December 2007 9:29am

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Correy says...
HappyEarth: I get the more expensive potting mix from bunnings however I am in the process of going to a landscaping business to get a trailer load of potting mix or similar. A few bloggers lately have been debating about the impacts of potting mix on the environment that you might be interested in:

http://aspotwithpots.blogspot.com/2007/11/can-you-reuse-potting-mix.html

http://barebonesgardening.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-protect-peatbog-ecosystems.html

We have a tank so I guess we could set up a self watering dripper which is what daleys nursery does with all their plants they grow in 35 litre bonsai bags. However at the moment I water by hand because I enjoy it. In my opinion it is good to give them a good soak where you water directly into the soil every 2 -3 days however often pollution can get on the leaves so I like to hose directly onto the leaves daily.

You are meant to re-pot every 2 years because after 2 years potting mix loses it's drainage qualities. I am about to re-pot a lot of my coffee plants which are nearing this age and the leaves are starting to yellow a bit.

Time: 11th December 2007 9:49am

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sheila mccart says...
Can anybody give me a few tips for what size pots are best for fruit trees in pots, and do I need to trim roots ever? I am new to this and have a lemon, fig, mandarin and avacado so far in pots. Thanks for any help.

Time: 27th April 2008 4:31pm

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Barry says...
How often does the soil in a fruit tree pot need to be changed , and what is the best procedure ?

Time: 24th January 2009 8:51am

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Ellen says...
Barry,

1st part of your question been answered by Correy, 2 post up from your post .

2nd part to your question. Do it with less damage to the roots as possible

Just have your new potting mixed prepared and fill it to the 1/3 of the pot.

Tip the pot with the plant sideway, roll it back and forth a bit, to loosen the containments in the pot, Once you can see that it has been loosen then pull the tree out, while it is still lying sideway , if it's too heavy due to dirt/soil still , then wash it down, to break loose of the old soil (no damage to the root system)

Now transplant it to the new pot that already has 1/3 of the new soil in it, and fill it up with new soil, on top put mulches .

Now when finish, give it a good water to eliminate any air pockets in it, as it will rot the roots.

But really Barry, if you can put it in anyone can take it out.


Sheila mc,

I am using a 510mm pot for my plants.
As for trimming the roots , I'd only do it when I do repotting. And I'd only trimmed off dead roots mostly.



Time: 25th January 2009 12:03am

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Michael says...
Hi ALL,
I would love to see people upload pictures of fruit trees in pots with actual fruits on them .This would give people like my self some great comfort that one day I too can produce fruits from growing trees in pots.I am currently growing 3 Babaco trees in pots with lots of fruits growing on it right now but it will be awhile before I can eat any of the fruit.

Time: 27th January 2009 11:43am

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Barry says...
Thanks Ellen . That's a real help .

Time: 2nd February 2009 11:25am

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Ravi says...
How big should the pot be?

Time: 30th September 2009 6:02am

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taz says...
hi everyone i was woundering if someone would be able to help me i got a tahitian lime tree to remeber my uncle by as he worked with citrus trees i want to plant it in a pot so if i move i can take it with me... i have a couple of ??'s... how big a pot?? where do i put it(full sun half etc..)?? what potting mix is the best?? if anyone could help that would be great as i dont want it to die!!!

Time: 8th January 2010 6:09pm

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au0rey says...
As big as possible say 45L above. Use premium potting mix (those that comes with red ticks printed on the bag). Full sun and deep watering cos citrus are hungry and thirsty plants. I feed mine with citrus fertiliser, seasol and charlie carp.

This may help : http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/citrus/management/other-information/garden

Time: 9th January 2010 9:59pm

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Charles cant spell says...
I thought Citrus had shallow/surface roots so is deep watering necessary, there is no tap root etc ?

Time: 9th January 2010 11:29pm

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au0rey says...
Yeah they have shallow roots but when I meant deep watering, I meant drenching the whole pot of potting mix. My pot's quite tall and I am not sure how deep the roots go though I do see roots around the surface if i scratch the potting mix. :)

Time: 11th January 2010 9:18am

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taz says...
thanks

Time: 15th January 2010 10:23am

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Maureen says...
Wow that's alot of variety!
I may have to try that now I have my new home... is it difficult?????

Time: 12th June 2010 6:58pm

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Dean says...
Wow is right. I'm going to try a Lychee and Rambutan. I was afraid it wouldn't work. But now I have some hope. I sure would like to see some updated pics.

Time: 13th June 2010 6:44am

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Pink35 says...
I have two blueberries and just planted a raspberry bush. They are all in pots. I note that these plants like Azealya food.

I will look forward to some sweet juicy fruit provided I water them every 2 days in summer.

Sharon

Time: 23rd July 2010 1:56pm

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Hayden says...
I use the willow 60L garbage bins and drill holes in the bottom. I think a great size pot but I'm no expert. They are only about $10.

Time: 1st October 2010 2:21am

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Hayden says...
Where can I get cheap grafted fruit trees on the central coast? I was not happy with whyee nursery as the plants were at least $30 and I got my mandarin for $20. Also their plants we covered in illness and didn't look to good.

Time: 1st October 2010 11:53pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Hayden,
I know that nursery very well, don't forget, they have just come out of a very big frost and nothing looks real good at the moment. I know all the nurseries on the coast and in my humble opinion, you won't find any better. Actually, at this time of the year, you will find most nurseries putting out last years stock at very reduced prices. Might pay you to have a drive around and see what's on offer.

Then, there's always Daley's for mail order, they re very quick.

Time: 2nd October 2010 11:03am

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Polly says...
Hello Hayden et al,
I had never thought of the garbage bin until I saw it on ABC recently. How are they going? For anyone who has used them long term how do the bins cope with the continued sunlight - my fruit trees in pots live on the concrete area around my house so get both direct sunlight and reflected light and heat. Thanks in advance

Time: 2nd October 2010 11:16am

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Hayden says...
My trees are going great at the moment and they are looking really good. My mandarin and lime trees both have flowers and make the whole place smell great on an afternoon with a nice breeze. My trees are in the bins in a tiny concrete, I guess you could call it a concrete courtyard. They get full sun and then heat of our brick house 2 metal fences and a metal shed and are doing great because of a combination of this, lots of water and seasol every three weeks. I will get a chocolate pudding fruit tree in the next few weeks and I will give it a go in a pot as I only have a very small backyard with a big slope.

Time: 2nd October 2010 10:57pm

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Hayden says...
P.s I will keep you all posted about how my chocolate pudding fruit tree ( black sapote) goes.

Time: 2nd October 2010 10:59pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Heyden,
The only nursery on the Central Coast selling black Sapote trees is Wyee Nursery. All of them are seedlings and all of their tops have been burnt off due to the recent heavy frosts. Keep a close eye out, they might have a clearance sale soon when they get new stock in. I'd suggest getting a grafted variety direct from Daley's. I think the Maher is a smaller tree might suit a large pot.
Keep in mind that seedlings are more suitable to cooler areas, all mine are doing great, including small one Y/O grafted varieties.
I'm also interested in putting some tropicals into pots and converting them to grow hydroponically. It does have some very good arguments.
I'd love to see what Daley's are growing in their 35 Lit Bonsai bags. Maybe if Correy is reading thes he might be able to take some photos for us all to see.

Time: 3rd October 2010 11:15am

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Hayden says...
I have called narra valley nursery and they said they will have them in in a few weeks. Not sure if they are grafted or seedlings? But they are $25

Time: 3rd October 2010 12:07pm

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Hayden says...
I have little lady beetle like beetles on my mandarin trees flowers. It is in a pot and the bugs are small round and Black and brown. They have made all of the petals fall off the flowers they are on. Can anyone help???

Time: 5th October 2010 11:30pm

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Hayden says...
All the beetles have disappeared from my mandarins flowers. Now tiny fruit are forming!

Time: 7th October 2010 8:16pm

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Pauline says...
YAY, it is exciting isn't it. :)



Time: 7th October 2010 11:57pm

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Hayden says...
Can I grow a cherry tree in apot???

Time: 8th October 2010 12:43am

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amanda says...
I don't know - can u?

Time: 8th October 2010 1:04am

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amanda says...
Just trickin' Hayden - try googling the subject (like: growing cherry trees in pots) many of the American gardening forums deal with this issue really well.

Time: 8th October 2010 1:07am

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Charlotte says...
What a great forum. We are just starting to grow some fruit trees in pots. We have one citrus fruit salad tree (4 grafts with lemon, grapefruit, tangelo and orange) and were thinking of a lime tree. Recently though we've been keen on getting a finger lime instead for something a bit different. Has anyone heard whether these go well in pots? Can't find info anywhere. Also do they go well in Sydney? There are a few types for pre-purchase at Daleys. Any type better than the other for container growing? Thanks for your help!

Time: 8th October 2010 7:19am

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Julie says...
Hayden, type in 'Trees in Bags' in the search bar at the top. There is a long article about a commercial grower who grows all his cherry trees in Bonsai bags.

Good article to read for anyone growing in pots or bags.

Time: 8th October 2010 9:03pm

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Hayden says...
Today I was having a look at the shops for more of the potting mix that I planted my mandarin in. After going through every type of potting mix I found out that I had used mulch instead of potting mix. The mandarin seems to be thriving.

Time: 10th October 2010 12:40am

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Pauline says...
Is it a bark mulch? Potting mix is generally made out of a mix of stuff including a large amount of bark.
They would certainly do better in that than soil. Just watch out for it drying out quickly, and for any signs of nutrient deficiency.
How long has it been in the mulch?

Time: 10th October 2010 12:54am

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Hayden says...
It's been in since maybe February. Looks fine and has just finished flowering. Not sure if it is bark mulch.

Time: 10th October 2010 1:23am

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Hayden says...
What extra fertaliser should I give a mandarin in a pot while it is fruiting. I only use seasol.

Time: 13th October 2010 11:16pm

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Julie says...
Seasol contains practically no nitrogen, which citrus need. You could use blood and bone,Dynamic Lifter or chook manure. I just bought a fertiliser called 'Shades of Green' which is organic and full of all sorts of goodies. Haven't tried it yet, but looks good.

One fertiliser which no-one mentions is pigeon manure - probably because it is never on sale. It is really rich, and must be used carefully. Best made into a liquid manure. Find out if there is a pigeon keeper near you, and they will either sell it cheaply or give it away.That is if a grower hasn't snapped it up already!

Time: 14th October 2010 9:18pm

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amanda says...
Julie - I just noticed u have started your Edibles page. Does that mean u are now armed and dangerous with a digital camera etc? :) Good on you!

I have loads of wild type pigeons - that steal all my chookie food - maybe I should put them to "work" in my orchard? (sometimes there is about 15 trapped in the chook pen!?)

Time: 14th October 2010 10:17pm

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Brad says...
I've seen a couple authors say they use pigeon, but not where they got it from. I guess it's more common than I thought.

Wish my fruit trees in pots luck. Today's their moving day (assuming the truck's got room)

Time: 15th October 2010 2:38am

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Brendan says...
You moving Brad? If so, where to?

Time: 15th October 2010 8:54am

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Julie says...
Not me amanda, must be another Julie. I only put one edible plant - I entered the competition.

Yeah, I'm doing OK with the camera, but have yet to install a programme which will 'shrink' the pics. I hate dealing with any new technology (new to me), but usually enjoy using it once I get the hang of it!

Time: 15th October 2010 8:52pm

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Hayden says...
Unfourtanantly this part of the forum seems to have slowed. Unfourtunant as this is how I discovered the site. Has anyone grown black spate I'n a pot? Any special requirements. I might buy it this weekend if I get around to it.!

Time: 8th November 2010 9:59pm

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BJ says...
Yes, I have one 1.5m tall, flowering profusely at the moment...

A note on my pots - I planted out a carambola this weekend and found its pot crawling with termites!

Time: 8th November 2010 10:43pm

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Hayden says...
Did you have your pot off the ground??
How old is your black sapote?? Are you expecting fruit? Or Is it to early


Time: 8th November 2010 11:08pm

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Nat says...
Just found this site, too cool.Has anyone got a fruiting Japoticaba in a pot? mine is happy and bushy, but no fruit as yet. I guess it would be 2yrs old now.. Also i was given a Buddahs hand, it grows and fruits beautifully in the pot,and I have pretty well neglected it. so maybe its a good citrus for a novice?

Time: 22nd February 2011 5:25am

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Nat...I had a jaboticaba in a pot that fruited after about 4 years which is quite unusual. Normally they can take many more years before they first fruit. Perhaps the root restriction encourages them to fruit earlier?

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Time: 22nd February 2011 6:56am

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HannaH says...
have just bought a black sapote and I would like to keep it in a pot,was told at bunnings to use a good potting mix and add cow manure, no one has mentioned cow manure so am now wondering if that is right. Also have a dwarf lemon tree that my son had and it looked dead so I cut it back and watered it regularly now i have lots of dark green leaves, just wondering if it may be not going to be a fruit bearer now.

Time: 14th March 2012 7:46pm

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MaryT says...
I use cow manure when I use ordinary potting mix. Shouldn't need it if it's premium mix.


Time: 14th March 2012 10:09pm

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amanda says...
For it's worth Hannah.H - I never use premium potting mix, on it's own, for fruit trees.
It "collapses" and lacks permeability, I feel. It can also become water repellant very readily in our WA climate.
It degrades quite fast due to fertiliser applications (so the level in the pot can drop a lot over a year or so..)
My recipe is roughly this:

1/2 premium potting mix

The other half is made up of another even-mix (I make myself) of: gritty mix (cacti/succulent), v.good manure, fine coir and peat mix.

I currently have around 20 sub tropical fruit trees (various types) that have been in my tree sacks for 2yrs now..with this mix...and they are doing great (so I know it works)

The two loquat trees I recently put into straight premium potting mix, (Quality ticked!) cos I was in a hurry...are drying out well before any of the trees in my own mix...and the others are much more fussy plants (like lychee, jaboticaba etc..)

Time: 14th March 2012 11:38pm

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snottiegobble says...
HannaH, you have given the lemon tree the kiss of life & if you continue to look after it in the right conditions ( watering, feeding, sunshine & out of draughts it should bear for you. Maybe just one or 2 lemons to start with!

Time: 15th March 2012 6:29pm

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feedingtimeatthezoo says...
Here's a few of my pots earlier in the year - love reading you comments and encouraged that I'm doing much of what's been discussed ... except maybe not feeding enough, so gonna fee them all up soon! Also had mass problems this season with unsuccessful copper spray coverage for peach leaf curl so stone fruit crop practically non-existent this year :( Will be extra diligent this winter. Most of my trees are in 50cm pots with a few in 40cm; they're mostly in mixed fruit-tree potting mix and compost/manure and soil; and are between 1-3 years old, with only a few true dwarfs, so it might get crowded as they grow!! In the process at the moment of moving them around to get those that will fruit this year together to net them, and put some of the taller ones along another fence line now that they can catch the sun above the fence. Watering is time consuming and I use a combination of gravity fed buried clay wet pots, sprinklers, and hand watering.
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Time: 1st November 2015 1:43am

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Bangkok says...
https://www.google.co.th/search?q=tabulampot&rlz=1C1CHWL_nlTH663TH663&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMImuC346PuyAIVojGmCh2JbA5C&biw=1366&bih=643#imgdii=opxUKc4-PLYFPM%3A%3BopxUKc4-PLYFPM%3A%3B6CoC4myfeUr-HM%3A&imgrc=opxUKc4-PLYFPM%3A

Here are many pics of tabulampot which means fruittree in a pot in indonesian language.

Making a good sprinkler for tree's in big pots is worth the effort. I use 2 timers to water all of them.





Time: 1st November 2015 2:42pm

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Brain says...
I an exactly like you with fruit tree in pots. A lot of mine are dwarfs, so sizings has not been too bad..

I have found heavy mulching does save watering to twice a week in summer and once a week in winter. But would agree that some sort of watering system would be ideal.

A lot of trees takes a few years to produce and hold fruit, so lots of patience is required. My lisbon lemon took 4 years and recently my tropical nashi had little nashis to the size of marbles (yr 3 now), despite flowering at first year. So fingers crossed for some results.

Worm juice is quiet good for giving the trees a boost, highly recommend.


Time: 2nd November 2015 12:27am

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Bangkok says...
Grafted/budded and airlayered tree's are best for growing in pots. They can fruit within months in the right climate

I cover the soil in my pots with a mesh net so they don't dry out quick, don't attract mosquito's on the humid soil, stop weed from growing, stop animals/insects digging or putting egs in the soil.

Also the net makes the soil not splash out while watering or hard rain.

I first put my sprinklers in the pot and cover thatt with the net, so the soil in the pot is also shaded all day. At the edge of the pot i grow some trailing plants to keep the pot shaded, our sun is very hot.

On this pic i put the sprinkler on top of the net but now i change that. When the net is on top it's also easyier to add fertilizer under the net.
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