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John Mc starts with ... Exerpt from the net: "Gac fruit is the Vietnamese super food that delivers powerful antioxidant health benefits and is quickly growing in one of the favorites in Western diets for people that want to eat foods that fuel their bodies with the most abundant nutrients. The fruit only ripens for a few months out of the year – September to January is so highly revered it is the cause for many festivals and celebrations. It is considered an Asian treasure with 10 times more lycopene (an important antioxidant) than any other fruit." Is anyone growing it, seen it, know anything about it that they might want to share?
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trikus says... It is a vine and might be a bit tender . wiki ; Etymology It is commonly known as gac, from the Vietnamese gấc (pronounced [ʒə́k]) or quả gấc (quả meaning "fruit"). It is known as mùbiēguǒ (木鳖果) in Chinese, and variously as Baby Jackfruit, Spiny Bitter Gourd, Sweet Gourd, or Cochinchin Gourd in English. | About the Author Trikus Tully 16th September 2010 7:36pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... A little bit more on Gac, actually just about everything you want to know: http://www.gac-seeds.com/ Anyone growing it? | About the Author John Mc 16th September 2010 8:11pm #UserID: 3496 Posts: 132 View All John Mc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lolo says... I have 4-5 vines in total, and just noticed yesterday that they already set a fruit and several flowers. When they were seeds (mail-ordered from gac-seed 10 or 20 for $10), some germinated very quick, some even did a 6-10 months time til they germinated. After that, i planted them side by side, hoping there'll b at least a male and a female. All vines are very thin, only 1 manage to grow very thick. Maybe the soil ? I hope this one fruit manage to ripe so i could taste it here rather than have to go to Vietnam. | About the Author Lolo1 Indonesia 25th February 2011 6:42pm #UserID: 4984 Posts: 1 View All Lolo1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Vitalxan says... Gac fruit is the next generation of superfruits. We have managed to get the fruit processed into a powder form which can be added to a smoothie. We are exploring the fruit to be added to our pure mangosteen powder and also a Papaya powder for overall health and possible weight loss program. We will soon be able to offer Gac powder and it will appear on our web site www.vitalxan.com.au in April. | About the Author VitalXan South Australia 18th March 2011 6:53pm #UserID: 5068 Posts: 2 View All VitalXan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annika says... Dear all, I am looking for some Gac seeds as I want to try to grow it in my garden. Not sure if the weather here is good for it or not? Would be great if you know where I can get some. btw, we only use it for sticky rice for special event in Vietnam, besides that we use gac for medicine. I am not sure if you can eat it in a normal way like fruit. | About the Author Annika Melbourne 3rd May 2011 2:21pm #UserID: 5254 Posts: 2 View All Annika 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Annika says... Putri, Thanks for your info. I will try the website that you suggested :) I heard it takes between 1-2 years until it has fruits. It blossom in May & June ( you might have to pollinate the flowers) and fruits starting in July-August. After you harvest the fruits you need to cut the vines and leave about 20cm-30cm. When the season comes new vines will come out. Good luck with your new fruits | About the Author Annika Melbourne 27th May 2011 8:55pm #UserID: 5254 Posts: 2 View All Annika 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... My head is still spinning, research has been going on right under my nose at the local uni with Gac. I was lucky enough to be invited over to the University to meet the head researchers involved in the GAC project today. They have been growing and researching GAC for the last two years and have a nice collection of advanced vines. In controlled conditions they fruited in the first year. I was lucky to be included in their research after they saw how keen I was to grow it. Soooo, after my meeting today, I am now the proud owner of one large male Gac plant and a not so large female plant. The vines propagate very easily, I saw instances where the plants had struck roots in between nodes, with no nodes under soil level, only stem material. They have no restrictions on me giving away plant material, so I'll be giving away as much GAC plant material where possible, keeping in mind that I have to also grow these plants on and keep a detailed log of growing events for the Uni. ATM there is plenty of male cutting material, which I started the propagating process as soon as I got home. Female plants might take a little longer, It's the growth rate and production of the female plant in my growing area that they are interested in. I'm assuming we will have enough seed in the near future to distrubute to all who might be interested. Job done.
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BJ says... Well done John Mc. Stories like that dont come around too often. Does anyone know if the GAC has a taste? the only reference to taste in here is that one of the common names has 'bitter' in it? So is this a fruit for eating, or a vine borne antioxidant tablet you hold your nose and woof down? | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 28th November 2011 9:34pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE says... Good job John Mc. BJ: It is not bitter like bitter melon. The edible part is the red arils. It has mild taste almost neutral. Apart from using as food colouring, you could process the arils and add to cooking, savoury or sweet dish or even fruit punch if you want. Full of vitamins. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 28th November 2011 9:55pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... JUJUBE FOR SALE is writing a recipe book on Vietnamese cuisine written with western style tweeks including several fantastic GAC fruit recipes. I don't know if it is for sale as yet but well worth buying if and when she releases it for sale. There's lots of uses for this fruit, although you only use the seed and aril surrounding the seed. I think the main benefit of growing this fruit is the high phytochemical content like Carotene and Lycopene, an excellent food for your eyes. Apparently there is not much taste or flavour in the fruit itself. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 29th November 2011 2:09pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE says... Hi John Mc, Many thanks for your kind words. I will release the book in the near future. Hi John, Seriously, no Gimmick. If it is not a super food, the NSW DPI would not be bother to do a research on this fruit. The Asian communities have been using this fruit for years. http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/aboutus/news/agriculture-today/july-2011/a-cancer-treatment-from-a-gourd | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 29th November 2011 2:42pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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john says... It is simplistic and reductive to equate a high nutrient concentration to health outcomes. Sure ,it is possible to pull the wool over the eyes of the punters but soon, if you make a statement claiming a health benefit, then the TGA will require you to prove it.Incidentally, a trial of supplementing people's diet with just beta- carotene INCREASED cancer incidence. The consensus view is that one should eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables; the actual mode of action and consequent benefit is still unknown. | About the Author 29th November 2011 3:23pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Anyway, john, this is a fruit tree lovers forum, I'm sure there are other sites that can argue for and against, with other strongly held opinions on the benefits or drawbacks of so called super foods. I have a diploma in Natropathic Nutrition from Southern Cross Herbal Schools run by Dr dennis Stewart(1985). If I wanted to carry on the argument myself, I'd find an abovemention suitable site and voice my opinions there, this is really not the forum for such agressive health opinions, sorry. Remember, fruit trees.fruit trees. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 29th November 2011 4:54pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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john says... My post was deleted so here is the gist -this a fruit growers' forum ,it is not about Naturopathy or therapeutics . In effect you have hi-jacked the site to spread your ideas on naturopathy. Yes ,it involves fruit but, how would you feel if I argued that God made all fruits and, therefore, proceeded to post religious ideas. | About the Author 30th November 2011 7:36am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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herbalcurephilippines says... I am a backyard Gac grower, our production is about 35 kilo dried powder a year(orginally belgian biochemist)Growing Gac outside the tropics will not results in the superfruit ingedients.We grow organically and only harvest the pure arils, no colour or powder added from other fruits.Aside of the fact its not easy to grow they are highly suseptable to fruit fly infestation | About the Author herbalcurephilippines Central Luzon Phil 7th December 2011 7:40pm #UserID: 6223 Posts: 13 View All herbalcurephilippines's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Oscen says... John, If we leave the arguements about 'superfoods' aside, and just discuss growing and using plants for food, you might like to recondiser your opinion of gac. Gac is not the sound you make when you eat the plant. Its the Vietnamese name for the plant, and its not pronounced quite the way its spelled in english. The Vietnamese dont eat it because its a 'superfood'. They cook the oily pulp around the seeds with glutinous rice, which gives it a subtle nutty flavour and a bright colour. The bright colour makes it a desireable for use as a food at festivals. Leaving aside the superfood issue, it seems that there is no reason why this plant should not fit nicely in to your suggested diet of a wide range of fruits and vegetables. Just one more thing to add to the range. And one more thing to make rice taste a little less bland. | About the Author Oscen 26th March 2012 5:34pm #UserID: 6769 Posts: 1 View All Oscen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... John is it still worth me trying to chase up any Gac seeds so you can get males? I have someone on the spot for a couple of weeks in Thailand.A workmate went to vietnam two weeks ago and I forgot to get my seedlist and icon printouts to them in time.Another friend who went to Bali called and said they didn't get me gula pasir or white mangoes seeds as he left it too late.It looks like I should just do it myself. | About the Author Cairns 28th March 2012 7:48pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Thank you very much for your kind words John Mc. The guy from North QLD who gave me a gac fruit last week from his female vine (you sent him the male one, still very small not flower yet) I opened and found that it had full of white seeds but no arils so completely white inside even though the outside was perfectly orange so male vine is very important for fruit set. BTW, mine are doing very well. Thank you very much for your generosity | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 3rd April 2012 9:50am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... I'll need all the luck in the world because it takes another 14 weeks to mature from pollination. That takes us through to the first week in August. Being a tropical cucubit I can't see it happening somehow, although, Lucy has given me a glimmer of hope. Where it is, the temp can get down to 3 to 4 deg C over winter. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 24th April 2012 6:04pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... herbalcurephilippines, Google has little to no information on GAC varieties, would you mind informing our forum visitors on the differences we are likely to encounter? I may have GAC material from both sources so it will be interesting to see what those differences are. What should we be looking for? are there enough dissimilar attributes to be seen as differing cultivars? | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 25th April 2012 8:11am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Colleen: I am glad that we will have plenty of Gac Fruit very soon in Australia. Mine is just a small vine but doing well too. Thanks to John Mc for your generosity. Thanks Hung lam for posting the photos it is good to know how to distinguish between the female and male ones. I can't wait to check mine when they are in flowers. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 6th September 2012 11:38am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Hiep Do says... Hi All, I am new comer for this topic. I have more than 8 years of experiences on growing gac fruit. If you need any information about gac fruit please do not hesitate to contact me. I am happy to answser your questions. Thanks, Hiep Do www.gacfruits.vn skype: hiepdovan http://www.flickr.com/photos/gacfruit/8158934089/
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John Mc says... Hey Phil, they appear to be allowed into Australia from China going by the AQIS website. I imported a dozen seed last year, of which 6 germinated and are coming out of dormancy now into their second year. I don't know whether they are M or F yet until they flower. A couple of people are after cuttings but none will be ready until at least January. I have some known M/F plants left over from the good Dr's at the uni so I'll be taking cuttings from them. We've had an excellent early start to the warm weather this year. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 10th November 2012 7:55am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael D says... Gac vines were selling at the Canley Vale nursery last month. I didn't know what it was until they told me .I was keen to buy it until I saw on the internet how much space you need to grow it .They were asking for between $15 - $25 depending on the size of the vine .Also they have just stock the green star apple variety which I have been waiting along time to get my hands on . It's a seedling not grafted . | About the Author Michael D wakeley 10th November 2012 8:47am #UserID: 1938 Posts: 116 View All Michael D's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nick T says... Hello everybody! I managed to find a gac fruit at a market in Hanoi just the other day for only about 20,000 dong (about $1). Very unusual fruit- the arils inside look rather like kidneys and the seeds look like miniature meteorites! I'll have plenty of seeds, about 20, to share when I return! How long do they stay viable for? | About the Author Nick T Altona, VIC 6th January 2013 11:48pm #UserID: 2663 Posts: 727 View All Nick T's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Gac Seeds available now. Emerald Tropics in Forster, NSW, have some for auction on ebay at the moment. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMAZING-SUPERFRUIT-HEALTHY-5-Gac-fruit-seeds-Momordica-cochinchinensis-VERY-RARE-/130987790464?pt=AU_Plants_Seeds_Bulbs&hash=item1e7f7b1080 I've tried to grow some before from Thailand but none of them germinated. Cheers. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 14th September 2013 6:48pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Hi Poony Since you're in Broome I'm looking for some edible plants native to that area -species like Coffee Fruit (Goolma) and Desert Limes. So perhaps I could get some Gac seeds for you and swap them for seeds of some of your local species. If you are interested in this suggestion please contact me at lintonius at hotmail.com cheers! | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 20th September 2013 11:51am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Thanks for the info about native limes. However there should be a number of other edible plants that are growing in Broome that I need someone to send to me: Terminalia petiolaris (Marul or Blackberry) Capparis umbonata (Wild Orange) Capparis lasiantha (Wild Passionfruit) and Grewia breviflora which is supposed to taste like coffee or chocolate. Anyone can help? | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 20th September 2013 3:09pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Here's a couple of pics of a male GAC flower I just took with my phone. If yours are female I can send you some male flowers, the pollen should last at least a week in the mail. It lasts up to a year in the fridge. I was going to pull all these male plants out you only need one.
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nguyenquanVN says... Hi John Mc, My name's Quan, I'm Vietnamese.Sorry about I don't know you have demand seed GAC early. At present, I have a agent supply seeds and seedlings. The weight average a Gac fruit is 3-5 kg/fruit. If you still have demand Gac, I can supply you seed and seedling with big amount. Please contact me this email "quanvcu9112@gmai.com". Thank you! | About the Author nguyenquanVN Enter Postcode First 24th March 2014 4:12am #UserID: 9691 Posts: 2 View All nguyenquanVN's Edible Fruit Trees |
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nguyenquanVN says... Hello everyone, My name's Quan. I'm Vietnamese. In my country, Gac have been planting very popular. At present, I have a agent supply seeds and seedling, Gac oil absolute, Gac powders,... If you have demand, you can contact me this email "quanvcu9112@gmail.com" or if you want "document of planting Gac" I can supply free for you. Thank! :) | About the Author nguyenquanVN Enter Postcode First 24th March 2014 4:31am #UserID: 9691 Posts: 2 View All nguyenquanVN's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Hi Kim, my GAC plants are in NFT hydro. The plants don't go completely dormant so I let them be. I might throw a fish tank heater in the reservoir this winter only because of the precious cargo they are carrying. Jujube Lucy might have some tips or advice on what I might be able to do to help nurse them through. I'm not particularly concerned if the fruit doesn't make it, because I know they will be right for next year. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 27th March 2014 5:46pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE says... Hi John, Congratulation! well done. You can try to pollinate the female flower using male pollen for now if you can and see if any fruit set. You can not kill the vine once the vine has been established. Everything should be ok. Years ago, I had a little vine in Melbourne for 3 years and it was ok until I gave it away because it grew too slow in Melbourne, a bit cold. Your area is much warmer even more suitable than North VN where gac fruit is very popular. Hi Kim, Gac fruit vine copes well in Australia climate, warmer weather they will grow fast that is all. they grow crazy in QLD BTW. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE MELBOURNE 27th March 2014 7:47pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... May explain Kim, why the female plant didn't produce flowers until late in the season. Jujube Lucy, There's plenty of male flowers and buds happening everywhere, so I shouldn't have any problems hand pollinating. There is plenty of male flowers if your friends in Cairns need pollen. Getting exciting. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 27th March 2014 9:31pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... I accidently cut the one and only GAC fruit off the vine this arvo. It's a good thing I did, It looks like it may have dried up a touch while sitting on the vine six weeks longer than the usual three months. It was hand pollinated early April which was really late. I'm glad it ripened up enough over winter to mature the seeds, and could try eating it for the first time.
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JohnMc1 says... Not much to write about Mary, as bland as it comes, but it's full of nutrients, so it must be doing some good. I only wished I did the pruning during the week, It would have given me great pleasure to send you some. Never mind, the vines are much larger so I'm expecting a decent crop next year. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 16th August 2014 2:21pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... You are welcome Ann, I have a son in Darwin, planning on visiting him soon. To get them to germinate quicker, you can remove the hard outer shell. You will get mostly male plants, so cull all but one for pollination. Unfortunately you won't know which is which until they flower. The male plants are very vigorous and will take over the trellis if you don't cull them before the following year.. . | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 17th February 2015 8:39pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Yenly says... Thanks John for a quick reply. I would love to be on the "waiting list " for the next avaible cuttings/seeds when they become available. I live in Port Lincoln , SA. Just wondering if the weather condition here is suitable for Gac plant. Any advice please. My email is: yenly0510@gmail.com Chuc Mung Nam Moi/ Happy Tet/ Happy Lunar New Year to you John. Kind Regards, Yenly | About the Author Yenly Port Lincoln 20th February 2015 9:08pm #UserID: 11338 Posts: 2 View All Yenly's Edible Fruit Trees |
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RFescandelor says... I was in Hanoi last November and saw ripe Gac fruit on display in the street at the old quarter. I bought 2 and the flesh is like melon but almost tasteless. The red flesh around the seeds are also almost tasteless and I mixed it with orange juice so I could drink same. I planted the seeds when I arrived home in the Philippines and around half germinated with the rest still sleeping. A few vines started flowering last week but they look like male flowers. The two seeds I got from Chiang Mai 2 years ago were all male and the main trunks grew fast and had around 2 inches in one years time. I hope to have even only one female vine from the new seeds. | About the Author RFescandelor Bacolod City, Philippines. 2nd April 2015 5:43pm #UserID: 11561 Posts: 1 View All RFescandelor's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Gac is listed as the species Momordica cochinchinensis. As I recall Momordica cochinchinensis is a small oval yellow/orange very spiny bitter gourd,with very short spines . The pics of Gac from markets are mostly large orange red round/oval Momordicas. At a guess the wild type in Cape York is going to be much smaller than the SE Asia cultivated types. It could be a bit hardier to grow. ps there is a wild Momordica charantia, bitter gourd, around Cairns area, fruit about 5cm. Cultivated BG types can be 10 to 30 cm. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 26th June 2015 10:30am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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PooMik says... Male have a small cup on the bottom of the flower, females carry the small fruit in the bottom, look the pictures, they should tell the hole story ;-) When planting Gac fruit, you will want to plant 10 plants, just to make sure that you have at least 1 female!
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Stella Phan says... You probably have a male gac vine. You need to grow a female vine and pollinate the flowers. This video has instruction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-_8x5LdGqQ | About the Author Stella Phan Da Nang 11th August 2016 4:29pm #UserID: 14391 Posts: 1 View All Stella Phan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Smith says... Thank you all for sharing your growing experience. I can now tell the difference from male and female flower from all the wonderful pictures here. I have 4 plants over three years old. So far, only the male plant has produce flowers. Three of them have not flowered. I got my mother-in-law to asked for a female plant from cuttings. It has been in the ground for about 8 months, but has not flowered. Now I have 5 plants. If that plant ever flower, and it is indeed a female, I can graft it based on the video below. It is in Vietnamese. It has lots of information if you can understand it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCNGxWbrejI At 4:50, the lady cuts the eye of the seeds before planting. He states that it takes 2 weeks to germinate. Then after one week old, they will graft it. At 12:00, the host ask how long does the root last? The guest replied that if the vines stops producing, cut the vine, but main stalk should last 20-30 years. | About the Author John Smith Houston Texas 3rd October 2016 4:48pm #UserID: 4802 Posts: 14 View All John Smith's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Smith says... I was so excited today to find these fruits hanging 20ft in the tree. It is growing on one of my original 3 years old vines. I have never seen them flowered except one male plant which flowered every year from year one. I was thinking the other 3 was sterile. I was given a fifth plant which was started from a female cutting. It did not make much progress this year because it was shaded out by the male plant. So, I ask my mother-in-law to ask around for some more cuttings. I went over my mother-in-law to pick up two female plants that the original owner did not want because, it was too much for her to manage. So this afternoon, I went out to my small backyard to decide where to plant these two this coming spring. When I looked up the tree, I saw those three fruits. There are six total that I can see. It got down to 35 degrees fahrenheit Friday morning and 39 degrees Saturday morning. I was thinking my plants would go dormant. The first year that it grew from seeds, the freezing weather killed it to the soil level. When spring came, I mowed over the plant because the vines was rotted from rain and cold. But it grew from the soil level. The end of the second year, the vines got as big as those two in pots. I did not do anything to protect it. The vines are much bigger now. So the vines that the fruits are on are two years old. Those vines just put out new leaves and new vines in the tree from previous year. So once the vines are big enough, it can withstand some light freezing weather. Last year's freeze was not as bad as 3 years ago though. Can anyone tell me based on their experience if extended freeze will kill off older vines? TIA for sharing your insight.
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FertileSoil says... Hi Lan Nguyen. You will need to Pollinate flowers. Hope you have a male vine. The Male flowers have pale petals that spread widely for a pleasant, open bloom, while female flowers have a more structured appearance, with the unformed fruit creating a bulge at the base. Pick a mature male flower and brush the stamen containing pollen against the centre of a mature female flower to cover the carpel, which comprises the stigma and ovary. Hope that helps. | About the Author FertileSoil Aspley 4034 13th December 2016 11:45am #UserID: 15199 Posts: 4 View All FertileSoil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Smith says... Just in case you all want to see how the Thai people germinate their seeds, here is a link to the video. You do not have to understand the language. The video explains it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw8tl3RbjVY&index=67&list=PL5mtfnA_4ka6vCn57ofZUviwzhfLju5pD At 1:50, he use a hammer to extract the seed from the shell. At 5:14, he soaks the seed. He then shows you some seeds that had germinated under wet cloth. At 8:17, he shows you how to plant it. | About the Author John Smith Houston, Texas 25th December 2016 4:15pm #UserID: 4802 Posts: 14 View All John Smith's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pete Swingdad says... Thank you for posting the link to the video. If anyone can understand what the audio says, I have some basic questions, like, how long does he soak the seeds? Does the wet cloth need to be in a sunny area? (I've seen in every other description of how to germinate the seeds that they require light as well as water and decent soil) This is the first time I have seen the technique of removing the outer shell. Can anyone confirm this is a good way to go? I have so few seeds that were a big deal to get to me here in Costa Rica. (from Thailand via US and smuggled in to CR) Costa Rica bans the import of any seeds. especially anything that resembles a squash in growth habit. I will have to grow these in some sort of underground ring to keep them from escaping into the wild. | About the Author Pete Swingdad Costa Rica 28th December 2016 1:26am #UserID: 15231 Posts: 2 View All Pete Swingdad's Edible Fruit Trees |
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herbalcurephilippines says... we have commercial gac farm, we germinate the seeds in the the old compost hip, we just take out the ones who sprout. Its always a matter of keeping them moist and on an average temp of about 25 Celsius. Hi Pete i come next March to costa rica, and want to bring some seeds with me. Your advice i can do that or not ??? | About the Author herbalcurephilippines ,,NT 28th December 2016 5:52pm #UserID: 6223 Posts: 13 View All herbalcurephilippines's Edible Fruit Trees |
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FairDinkumSeeds says... I have a few healthy females flowering at the moment, but no males to do the business. Anyone got male flowers, and if, so can I buy some pollen, please.... Happy to pay whatever you reckon is reasonable+postage, or even happier to swap for something in cool from my collection. (P.S. even if you don't personally have any, feel free to suggest folks I should hassle/contact.)
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Farouk says... Hello All, I just read this entire post so very exciting & the heart of it being John MC wow very excellent results on that 1 accidental harvest. Looking forward to Spring season, Hopefully to get my hands on some Gac Seeds & try them myself this season in pot & ground, anyone have any seeds I am in Fairfield/Cabramatta NSW area. Thank you, Regards Farouk - Aside from looking forward to spring I am looking forward to my Broadbean pods, here's a photo from last month, they are all flowering now.
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Farouk says... Hi Hannaoc, Qld Seller: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rare-Exotic-Gac-Fruit-Seeds-Momordica-cochinchinensis-Fahk-Khao-Taw-Thabu/173123400776?hash=item284ef57448:g:sZwAAOSwoBtW5sn0 | About the Author Farouk CABRAMATTA,2166,NSW 21st February 2018 11:18am #UserID: 8110 Posts: 206 View All Farouk's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... I have trouble propagating male plants, female no problem. If you're quick, there's some fresh seed on EBay. Largest percentage of seed are male: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rare-Exotic-Gac-Fruit-Seeds-Momordica-cochinchinensis-Fahk-Khao-Taw-Thabu/173123400776?hash=item284ef57448:g:sZwAAOSwoBtW5sn0 | About the Author JohnMc1 WALLARAH,2259,NSW 21st February 2018 8:30pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Hopeful of growing my own! says... Watch ABC Gardening Australia 17 Aug 2018 Need approx 10 plants as that is the number to make sure there are male and female plants. As you sister already knows which 2 are female then she can tag those and find out which of the new ones have different flowers. Perhaps cull the unwanted ones after a successful fruiting. Good luck | About the Author Hopeful of growing my own! North Brighton 17th August 2018 8:45pm #UserID: 18841 Posts: 1 View All Hopeful of growing my own!'s Edible Fruit Trees |
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PooMik says... I posted Earlier pictures of difference between mail and female flowers. Depending on your location, you most likely have to manually polynate the female flower. Polynation have to be early in the morning. If you do a 3-4 times a year, you will get 3-4 times fruiting
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HUTTO says... Hi I am growing 12 seedlings and two female cuttings ok - Collombatti Rail - about 20 km inland from South West Rocks, Mid North Coast, NSW. I will work out which vines are male and female and reduce the # of males. My seedlings survived our winter - the vines are clearly much happier in Spring. Wish me luck. Thanks JMc for your story on the Forum Thanks to Phil for your help. | About the Author HUTTO COLLOMBATTI,2440,NSW 29th November 2022 9:23pm #UserID: 29549 Posts: 6 View All HUTTO's Edible Fruit Trees |
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