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My Jaboticaba has fruited 3 times in 7 weeks.I know they can fruit 5 times a year but I never had them so close together. I will include a photo.
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Time: 29th October 2008 11:52am

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Jantina says...
Lucky you!

Time: 29th October 2008 8:19pm

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Tiffany says...
Very admiring pics of the Jaboticaba there Diny. How old is your tree, and how long did it took to fruit? I've only just bought mine last month.

Time: 29th October 2008 9:52pm

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Tran says...
Mine was 3 years old when I bought it. It took my tree 10 years to have 1 fruit. It is in it third year of fruiting with 6 little ones. I was told that if you feed and water well it would take six years to fruit but mine I rarely water or feed it so flowers did appear earlier but just 3 flowers on one branch so I did cincturing every branch (a technique used to induce shy-bearing trees to flower). It is now 2 meters tall. I mulch heavily because roots system is very shallow. Anyway, it is reward to have this fruit tree after all.
Good luch Tiffany.

Time: 30th October 2008 7:48am

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vanl says...
Tran,

13 years seems to be a long time to wait for a single fruit and the tree is only 2m high :-). I believe mangosteens also take that long to bear fruit (we had a commercial fruit orchard in VN).

I was wondering of what you think of the taste of the jaboticabas. I had a taste once and it is reminiscent of a large grape so it is not high on my fruit list. In Vietnam, I remember there is a similar tree that has similar fruiting characteristics (tra'i qua^\n qua^n) which I can't find an English name for.

Cheers.

Time: 30th October 2008 8:50am

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Tran says...
Hi Vanl,

Do you mean 'tra'i Ho^ng qua^n'? I don't know English name either but Jaboticaba tastes quite juicy not like the one mentioned above. I have never seen it in Australia but I have seen (Tra'i thanh tra) Marian Plum grown in QLD.

Yes mangosteen also takes along time to fruit too.

Time: 30th October 2008 1:27pm

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Tiffany says...
Speaking of mangosteen, i'm interested to get a mangosteen tree as well :-) It is a definate worth of 10 years wait fruit.

Time: 30th October 2008 2:03pm

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vanl says...
Tiffany,

Sorry to disappoint, but purple mangosteens are strictly tropical so no good in Melbourne. You might want to try the yellow mangosteen as they are less picky although I have never tasted one.

Time: 30th October 2008 2:18pm

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Tiffany says...
Thanks Vanl. That is a shame, the yellow mangosteen doen't interest me.

Time: 30th October 2008 2:50pm

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Diny says...
My tree is about 12 years old and it has been fruiting for at least 8 years. I have noticed that it fruits best when fed with a good fertiliser. Some years the crop is so heavy that you can't see the branches, they are totally studded with fruit.
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Time: 2nd November 2008 5:50pm

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Tiffany says...
Hi Diny,
Thanks for geting back to me. It is does make me feel more optomistic knowing that yours fruited in the 4th year. I'll take on your tip, boost it with fertiliser to encourage to fruit sooner than 10 years. Hope I would also have lots of fruits like you.

Cheers.


Time: 2nd November 2008 9:30pm

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fruitist says...
Jaboticaba likes plenty of water. You can grow it in waterlogged soil. It has a long tap root. No lateral fibrous roots.

Time: 3rd November 2008 9:35am

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Tiffany says...
Hi Fruitist, thanks for the advice. So, by keeping the soil moist and regular fertiliser, Jaboticaba should fruit within a couple of years. (fingers cross)

Time: 5th November 2008 3:33pm

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Anonymous says...
Hi Tiffany, wet soil and fertilizer will make Jabot grows faster and bigger but I think it will still take at least 5 years to fruits. Have you try layering and cutting? I got one to strike with my cutting. I have had some luck with my cuttings lately, acerola cherry and rollinia are my unexpected successes. I don't use root hormone and only used plastic bag over the acerola cherry.

Time: 5th November 2008 7:33pm

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Ceilidh O'Sullivan says...
Wow, your tree fruit looks great. Hi Diny, I am from Bundy too and am interested in Jaboticaba. Are they edible and native? if they are, could you care to send some seeds to me?
Ceilidh.

Time: 10th November 2008 2:12pm

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Bazza says...
Diny,
After reading this topic maybe i now know why my Jaboticaba has been sitting idle all these years. Fruitist mentioned TAP ROOT i have a shale just below the clay which i had to penetrate to grow mangoes successfully! i am at Kentucky Blue Grass Diny so if i am welcome to visit you please e-mail me at bazza66@tpg.com.au.

All The Best Bazza

Time: 12th November 2008 4:05pm

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trikus says...
THe deep red soil in Childers would help , supposedly 50 m deep ! And with the tap root , they would not like being kept in a pot for to long . Thats why the 2 I rescued from old nurseries are taking forever top get established . I will persist and grow some seedlings .

Time: 13th November 2008 8:19am

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Diny says...
I just went out to pick some of my third crop and saw another lot of blossom! That is the 4th crop since 27-8 this year.If you give me your address Ceilidh, I will send some seeds. I live in Childers and if you like you can come and taste some fruit.

Time: 14th November 2008 6:29pm

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Chrys says...
Hi Trikus,

Not all Childers/Isis district is red soil. We live 20km from Childers and have grey sandy loam. We also have Jabots and they fruited after only 2 years in the ground, possibly 2 year old plants when purchased. We had 3 crops so far this year and possibly one more coming before the real heat hits in Jan. As you can see it bears prolifically. Fruit is size of large cherries. Tree is about 1.5m tall. Just right for harvesting by kids (children). All it gets is one serve citrus/fruit tree fertiliser in early spring and lots of local sugarcane mulch prior to summer. It is on a timed irrigation from our dam and we are conservative about how much water it gets. Maybe not too much love is needed for these babies.
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Time: 21st December 2008 11:10pm

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Mike says...
I thought I'd revive an old thread.In spite of producing multiple crops during the warm wet weather my big jab is at it again.With little water and a chill in there air it still throws out a kg here and there.
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Time: 16th May 2012 6:24pm

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gus says...
Those leaves look much greener than mine mike. Mine are kind of pale green to yellow with a bit of leaf burn on the edges.

Time: 16th May 2012 8:10pm

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Mike T says...
The jaboticabas fruit more frequently than just about any fruit tree.Both of my big sabara jabs are leaded even after several rounds of plucking.It would take a champion glutton to get through them.The fruit extend from the trunk(s) to the tips of the twigs and even a 'guts' like me has to admit defeat.
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Time: 2nd September 2012 8:34pm

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MaryT says...
What do they taste like, Mike? Would they make good jam?

Time: 2nd September 2012 9:32pm

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Mike T says...
Mary they are sweet without much acidity and rather liquid inside and perish fairly quickly.The flavour is....hang on....ok I'm back...black grape kinda but they have their own pleasant taste.The common type M.jaboticaba var. sabara and the big leaf one M.spirito santo var. grimal are too big for pots perhaps.If vexator and red hybrid jaboticabas were in australia we would have ones that have big fruit quickly from seedlings even in pots.
They don't seem like a jam fruit to me Mary but I could be wrong.

Time: 2nd September 2012 9:50pm

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MaryT says...
Mike, I gave my jaboticaba away because it was so slow in growth here but my friend in Bellingen who took it promised fruit if they ever show up :) OK, so not for jam but it must be nice if so many people are after it.

Time: 3rd September 2012 8:18am

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VF says...
Jam/jelly can be made from Jab's - can buy from Tamb. Mt. local produce market. I bought some for my daughter recently - tastes nice enough, but nothing to write home about, as the flavour is mild. Could see it being tasty if made with mint, or lemon or aniseed myrtle, and served with roast meat.

Time: 3rd September 2012 1:03pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
We were like kids in the lolly shop when we had the chance to pick a bag of jaboticabas from Mike 's house last Friday. Many thanks for your generosity Mike. We had a wonderful desert that night.

Time: 3rd September 2012 5:58pm

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BJ says...
My aunt makes a wicked Jab jam. she puts in a few skins for more flavour and uses the slightly overripe super sweet jabs. its a full on jam. Hopefully she picks some this year as the bats and possums beat her to it last year.

Time: 3rd September 2012 9:56pm

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VF says...
My Jabs are only babes, so I'll be waiting a few years yet before I can try for myself...but oneday!

Time: 4th September 2012 12:21am

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MaryT says...
Lucky you, Jujube; what did you make with the jaboticaba? Thanks BJ and VF; sounds like a sweet and sour kinda sauce (like plum sauce) could be made from it? Or a jelly, like grape jelly?

Time: 4th September 2012 9:53am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mary,

Yes, we have been very lucky.

We had them as fresh fruits so beautiful to eat them out of hand. Very sweet and tasty. I have seen wine made from these fruits sold in Cairns but I have never tried the product myself.

Time: 4th September 2012 11:02am

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BJ says...
Yep, Jab wine is a nice desert wine. Jab Jelly is good too: http://www.capetrib.com.au/recipegrumichamajelly.htm
http://www.annettemcfarlane.com/_Jaboticaba_Jam.htm
http://ianjudy.blogspot.com.au/2008/07/jaboticaba-jam.html

And the recipe mother ship:
http://rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/RecipeIndex.htm


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VF says...
Hi Mary T. I think BJ's aunt may have recipe down pat - the jar I bought is a bit runny (maybe too much water), and has a fair bit of lime added to it so it is sweet & sour, but the Jab. flavour is a bit lost. Probably could make something like grape jelly.

Time: 5th September 2012 5:48pm

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Mike Tr says...
My large leafed jaboticaba (Myrciaria spirito santensis) or Grimal as they are commonly called has been producing well lately and these were consumed just now.The taste is better I think than the common small leafed jaboticaba (Myrciaria jaboticaba var.sabara) or just sabara variety.I have a number of other species with supposedly larger or tastier fruit I am keen grow to fruiting size.
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Time: 30th November 2013 10:53am

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yrt says...
The problem,as I see it ,is not the taste which is excellent but with the fact that the edible flesh does not separate from the 3 or 4 seeds. I generally swallow the lot and spit out the skin but I would pay extra for an improved variety.

Time: 30th November 2013 1:22pm

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Mike Tr says...
This species has pretty small seeds and a high flesh yield yrt.I know people who struggle with passionfruit,grapes and guavas because they don't eat the seeds.I swallow jaboticaba seeds.Giant fruiting species like coronata have loads of flesh and it would be easier.

Time: 30th November 2013 1:43pm

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gimme says...
Does large leaf jaboticaba grow faster than the common variety?

Time: 30th November 2013 3:49pm

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Mike Tr says...
gimme maybe a bit faster than the standard and they fruit a little faster.

Time: 30th November 2013 6:45pm

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gimme says...
Thanks mike sounds better all round then...? Although I like jaboticaba the trees appearance impresses me more than the taste. Has anyone ever found fruit fly larvae in the fruit?

Time: 30th November 2013 8:53pm

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BJ says...
Sabara produces more fruit over multiple crops though. So both have their bonuses. I'm hoping for trunciflora to live up to its reputation of tasting like coffee berries and the coronata to bring the black jaboticabas into the future and the guaquica to do the same to the yellow jab.

Time: 30th November 2013 9:52pm

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Mike Tr says...
gimme fruit flies leave them alone.
BJ the vexators, red hybrids and grandifolias also have good press and paulista is supposed to have a great taste.

Time: 30th November 2013 10:46pm

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yrt says...
Where do you get the exotic Jabs?

Time: 1st December 2013 5:15pm

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ivepeters says...
Question to those who had possession of seeds of.
Myrciaria cauliflora X - Fast Bearing JABOTICABA
Myrciaria coronata - GIANT JABOTICABA
Eugenia neonitida - PITANGATUBA

What other seed does it resemble (that is allowed into Oz)?

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Time: 12th December 2013 5:00pm

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yrt says...
ivepeters ,could you re-phrase the question?

Time: 13th December 2013 9:39am

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Mike Tr says...
Looks are not the most important thing ip.

The green curtain is an impenetrable barrier as this was just musing about overseas species.
Air time for such thoughts could wrongly give rise to thoughts of impropriety.

Time: 13th December 2013 10:31am

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ivepeters says...
Sorry if the question was misinterpreted, thought the overseas forum visitors , might enlighten me as to approximate size in relation to those seeds available in Oz.
Fully support the endeavours of our green curtain to protect us against the overseas scourge of disease and pests, not already imported legally by same.

Time: 13th December 2013 12:53pm

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Mike Tr says...
Most of the other jabs have larger seeds but not cauliflora,phytanthratri,trunciflora,grandiflora and even coronata surprisingly.

Time: 13th December 2013 3:12pm

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Grant says...
My small leaf jab. Is 5-6 years old and 2m high and i am interested in trying to cincture a branch or two to kick start some fruit. Any one know of a good link or can shed some light on technique to use as i have never done it before and Am very keen not to ring bark this precious tree.

Time: 9th September 2014 1:32pm

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JohnMc1 says...
It must be on the cusp of fruiting now I recon without the use of any external inducements. I have one with the same description as yours. It gave up half dozen fruit late last year and is now coming into bloom all over the tree as we type.

Time: 9th September 2014 2:04pm

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Grant says...
I was hoping this last drenching might kick it into action (300mm in 24 hrs 1.5 weeks ago + followup rain) but no sign. The thought that i might be able induce this beautiful fruit a year or two early i find fairly irrisistable.

Time: 9th September 2014 8:46pm

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Krydoll4610 says...
Three photos of jaboticaba trees and fruit. Best crop ever, we've been in drought, rains came trees burst into flower. One tree is 10yrs and has born fruit for 4 years. Second tree is 5years & this is 2nd year of fruiting. Second tree fruits earlier, bigger size and quantity. Oldest tree has fruit growing on tips of branches not just trunks
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Krydoll4610 says...
Three photos of jaboticaba trees and fruit. Best crop ever, we've been in drought, rains came trees burst into flower. One tree is 10yrs and has born fruit for 4 years. Second tree is 5years & this is 2nd year of fruiting. Second tree fruits earlier, bigger size and quantity. Oldest tree has fruit growing on tips of branches not just truper photo
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David says...
Jab is loaded with buckets of fruit to eat right now yum.

Time: 6th January 2015 8:19am

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Ranip says...
i just received a beautiful bottled of jam made from this fruit taste amazing
thanks to a good friend of mine
sorry no pic

Time: 3rd December 2015 1:15am

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