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can the purple mangosteen variety be grown successfully in Perth WA? Any one tried this out? Special care needed?

Time: 9th August 2009 7:24pm

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amanda says...
Hi Simon...I think purple mangosteen is "strictly" tropical?...I wouldn't bother myself in Geraldton..much as I would love to..but I could b wrong!?
U may need to provide a strictly tropical microclimate (eg: glasshouse 4 winter)..Is HappyEarth growing it in Woollagong?

Time: 9th August 2009 8:34pm

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snottiegobble says...
sorry mate, the mangosteen is strictly wet tropical as in thailand, vietnam, philipines etc with 2 huge celebrated harvests every year. There are plantations in Darwin & the daintree, but only one harvest per year due to too dry winters. I would also love to grow mangosteens because of their amazing unique anti-inflammatory xanthones, but have to settle for being a XANGO
( mangosteen juice) distributor instead.
Cheers Dave

Time: 10th August 2009 1:34am

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Kit says...
I know this thread is about the purple mangosteen but Ive heard the yellow mangosteen can be grown in cooler climates ( sub tropical ) anyone agree/disagree with this ?

Time: 10th August 2009 9:29pm

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Peter says...
There are quite a few Garcinias, some of which tolerate cooler climates. There's one - Garcinia xanthocymus - that grows and fruits in the Sydney Botanic Gardens, but this is probably the limit of its range

Time: 10th August 2009 10:48pm

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amanda says...
Peter - is that the yellow mangosteen? Do they taste as good as purple?

Time: 11th August 2009 9:29am

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culebra says...
I' say with a perfect warm microclimate and much attention and TLC its possible.
Otherwise a greenhouse is probably required.

Time: 11th August 2009 6:16pm

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Simon says...
Thanks for your kind comment. I will give it a go if I can lay my hand on a plant. Thanks again.

Time: 17th August 2009 3:12pm

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trikus says...
WWOW , did not know the yellow MAngosteen would grow that far south .. thats if it is the same spp. as the one growing up here . I posted pic of some I picked a few months ago . Not as sweet as purple , but I enjoyed eating them , and will grow a tree for sure .
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Time: 17th August 2009 6:43pm

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amanda says...
Uh Oh.... I think mangosteen is a bit over rated myself....lovely fruit but not much to it.. all that skin n clingy seed... :( U need to eat a few kilos to get a 'fix' ....

Time: 17th August 2009 11:07pm

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aneh says...
trythe large ones found in java they are much better bit bigger than size of a tennis ball.

Time: 19th August 2009 9:23pm

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Bernie says...
Simon, can you please let me know where you bought your Mangosteen plant in Perth? the only way this tree will survive our climate will be in a hot house also the soil must be rich & black with lots of earthworms.Most of the tropical plants I have are thriving for example. Avacado, Guava, limes Coriander Pomegranate, custard apple, mandarins lemons most asian herbs.

Time: 24th September 2009 12:44am

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Simon says...
Hi Bernie,
I was trying to grow Mangosteen here in Perth. I would like to know if anyone has any success with it in Perth before I tried. Seems like it is rather difficult to grow one that I am not sure if I should try. From the various comments above, the yellow mangoesteen may be more promissing. I am not sure if we can get the yellow mangoesteen here in Perth.

regards,

Time: 26th September 2009 2:09pm

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HappyEarth says...
I tried a yellow mangosteen fruit the other day of a tree at the Sydney botanical gardens and was suprisingly impressed. Heaps of flesh, large fruit with a nice tangy sweet flavour. Very refreshing.

Rich
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Time: 26th September 2009 3:36pm

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tr says...
Rich , I to was surprised at how nice the yellow ones tasted . Very slow sprouting seeds though .

Time: 26th September 2009 9:42pm

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The Bish says...
I bought some mangosteens from IGA in Applecross Perth a couple of months back - they were from Gin Gin but perhaps distributers only

Time: 1st April 2012 8:29pm

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snottiegobble says...
Purples only grow in tropics & year round wet tropics are best! They often reach Farmers market in Bunbury!

Time: 2nd April 2012 12:11am

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Mike says...
While I was preparing my garden bed about 40 minutes ago someone left a big bag of mangosteens and a 7.8 kilogram luang durian on my doorstep.The aroma lured me 40m to the front.I gave the fellow who lives in the next suburb a few odd seedlings a while ago.I wonder if anyone has ever eaten a durian that big in one night?

Time: 3rd April 2012 6:53pm

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David says...
Looks like were about to find out

Time: 3rd April 2012 7:24pm

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David says...
your sense of smell is keen Mike ill grant you that

Time: 3rd April 2012 7:28pm

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John Mc says...
Now it's my turn to drool, frozen ones are my only source.

Time: 3rd April 2012 7:41pm

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MaryT says...
I didn't know they sell fruit at the Botanical Gardens shop, Rich; lucky you. You can eat all 7.8 kg of the durian, Mike; can't go near it. Have seen fresh ones here in Sydney; in the Chinese supermarket in Chinatown..

Time: 3rd April 2012 7:53pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Lucky you Mike. I don't think you can finish in one night, enjoy your gift.

Time: 3rd April 2012 7:54pm

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Mike says...
This durian has an aroma that would wake the dead so 40m is chicken feed.The mangosteens almost seem second rate compared to the king of fruit.At rusty's it would cost over $100, but they would never have one as good as a luang.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:01pm

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Scott says...
Can anyone tell me if purple mangosteen will grow around the Townsville area....or not wet enough?

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:15pm

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Mike says...
Scott, I reckon you can if it were grown in a spot sheltered from the wind,with good soil and lots of mulch.Every few years it gets down to around 3c and only an established tree would be ok.The low humidity at times could give it a touch up and it would need lots of water.In NE Thailand they are grown in a similar climate to Townsville.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:27pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Scott,

I am growing one right now in pot for the time being, I have not seen any surrounding Townsville except 2 wild trees with almost identical fruits to the purple ones on the bike track near Bowen bridge.

Lucy.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:34pm

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Scott says...
Thanks Mike.
I don't know much about Garcinia.
Ive kept a little seedling alive in my greenhouse for a while now.

Might just keep potting it up until after winter and then plant it out.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:35pm

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BJ says...
Protect it from sun. That will kill the small plants faster than a freeze!

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:39pm

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Scott says...
Hi Lucy,
thanks for the info.
Might have to pack the kids in the car and take a look.

Was it you that was chasing dragonfruit for your neighbour?
If so I have struck some cuttings.
Send me an email with your address and I'll drop 'em off if you like

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:40pm

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Scott says...
BJ, yeah I already lost one seedling to the big fella in the sky.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:44pm

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Mike says...
Hats off to BJ, that is right that the sun is the biggest enemy for young mangosteen.They can't handle full sun until around 3 years old.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:48pm

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BJ says...
I lost my first one to the sun. Came through winter fine, but then I left it in the sun and it got fried. So far so good with its replacement.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:50pm

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Scott says...
So do you think I should wait until Summer....or plant it out in the cooler months?

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:57pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Scott,

Yes, It was me asking for my neighbour (landlord) who was looking for some.

Thank you very much for your generosity. I am very much appreciated. They will be very happy to receive them.

The wild ones are behind the Manersley pl ,Anandale side of the bike track.
I will send you an email.

Time: 3rd April 2012 8:57pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
If I was you Scott, I would plant one in pot and when they are big enough , let say 3 years, introduce to the sun gradually like 1 hour a day for a week then 2 hours for the next week and so on.
The tree could be under shade cloth in the first couple of years to be sure.
Before wet season is the best planting time (Mike gave me this hint)


Time: 3rd April 2012 10:18pm

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Jenny says...
Hi BJ or Mike, hoping for your advice re my mangosteen. I got it from Daleys late last year and it came through the winter fine (yay!). It's in a 27cm diam pot and is about 50cm high (not including pot). It has put on 6 new leaves since I got it. I wouldn't know how old it is - do you think 3 years? Should I keep it in a pot for another year do you think (keeping it in semi shade still) or plant it in ground in a sheltered spot with shade protection? Bearing in mind comments above in this thread if the latter, maybe I should wait a month or so till we get more dependable rain here in Brisbane. Thanks garcinia gurus!
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Time: 30th August 2012 2:29pm

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Mike says...
Jenny you have a large leafed mangosteen and they do not tolerate direct sun,desiccation or wind as well as smaller leafed types.You could find a spot where it will always be in filtered sun for planting out in October and mulch the living daylights out of it.It will never fruit in a pot and even in filtered light it will need a shadecloth shelter for 2 years or so.
It could be 3 if it has grown slowly and if its root system is to develop properly in the ground another year in the pot might not be a good idea.You will need to water it alot for the first year and find a spot that is not windy.

Time: 30th August 2012 7:11pm

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Jenny says...
Mike thanks very much for your advice I will plant it out in October with due care but of course I realise this is all a gamble which may not pay off. I will do what I can to increase the odds of success but c'est la vie!

Time: 31st August 2012 5:24pm

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Natalie1 says...
do manosteen grow from seed if so does anyone have any available?

Time: 28th September 2012 8:09pm

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Gus says...
I don't think you will have any chance growing mangosteen in New zealand. They are a tropical species unfortunately.

Time: 28th September 2012 9:55pm

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denise1 says...
The purple mangosteen is almost impossible to grow in NZ- only in a heated greenhouse. You can grow Garcinia xanthochymus however and it is a permitted import. I have one that is outdoors all year in a container. It is very slow. You can import seeds from fruitlovers in Hawaii, but they are closed until february next year. You might not ever see fruit on it but it does have nice foliage. It is unusual in that roots grow from both ends of the seed.

Time: 29th September 2012 5:30am

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Jantina says...
So I'm assuming yours has nbot fruited yet Denise? with all the stuff you have growing your garden must be wonderful.

Time: 30th September 2012 11:45am

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denise1 says...
There is less than a quarter acre to work here and many trees are happy to grow but not as many fruit as expected. The land use has to share with veges, bush and nursery. I could do with starting again on a larger property.

Time: 30th September 2012 1:30pm

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Davidi says...
hi there Denise, there used to be a great nursery in Remuera back in the mid 80s,keen to know if its still there used to have lots of exotic fruit trees, got my first Lychee tree from there,when Lychees were first being propagated in NZ.

Time: 30th September 2012 5:51pm

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Mike says...
The references to yellow mangosteens above don't recognise that there are dozens of species of garcinias that are yellow.G.xanthochymus is probably the worst being very sour but G.dulcis that looks a bit like it is only half sour.There would be at least a dozen yellow garcinias in central and south america (eg lemon drop and sweet madrono) way better and at least as cold tolerant as those 2.G.prainiana,G.forbesii and G.hombriana are reddish to yellowish asian ones that are pretty good and have not really been tested for cold tolerance.

Time: 30th September 2012 9:12pm

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denise1 says...
Great info Mike. Do you know the hardiness rating for Achacha?. A note for Natalie--It happens that only Garcinia xanthochymus and G mangostana are allowed into New Zealand.

Time: 1st October 2012 7:04am

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Mike says...
Achacha as we know it is an undescribed species with several varieties.It is not humilis,laterofolia,brasilensis or any other names that have been listed for it.The grabbed and brought to Oz is one of 4 types of this fruit in Bolivia and it gets called something else where it crosses the borders.The achacha here can probably go to 1 or 2c coming from an elevated area.
It is legal to bring seeds in to oz and identical ones can be brought in fo the carribean and south america.You would be better off going for superior garcinia in the achacha style if you did that.

Time: 1st October 2012 7:23am

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mcmelb1 says...
Does anybody know where to get Garcinia xanthochymus plants in or sent to Melbourne?
Thanks

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