Monkey puzzle nut (forum)

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Has anyone had experience with Araucaria araucana, monkey puzzle nut or know where to buy a tree or seeds in Australia.

Time: 24th January 2011 5:01pm

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micarle says...
Hey AB These conifers are the most structural plants around, expecially when young! But they are also very spikey ,Hard sharp ridget leave's. At a garden i used to work at they had two, but the black cockys would fly in and attack the leader's, one eventually died and the other seems to be going ok.

You could try giving Yamina a call they have them listed for $45 each, i think that's a good price regardless of the size!! Hope that helps

Time: 24th January 2011 6:26pm

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allybanana says...
Thanks micarle there are a few things from Yamina i am interested in, nearly enough for the 200 dollar minimum post.

Time: 24th January 2011 6:37pm

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micarle says...
Yep me too!!!!!! but its a bit far for me to travel. Good luck!

Time: 24th January 2011 6:42pm

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trikus says...
Just scored a few Monkey Pot,Nut trees , not a conifer but related to the Brazil nut .
Paradise Nut, Lecythis Zabucayo .
google it and check out how big they get !!

Time: 26th January 2011 1:04am

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micarle says...
Lecythis are really nice, i have been after pisonis for a time now and i'm very hot on the trail!!!

Time: 26th January 2011 8:42am

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Sean says...
They have been selling a few of them in the local nurseries around here lately. They look a nice ornamental tree but I already have a Bunya and I think they have better nuts and are just as good a looking tree and of course they are Aussie.

Time: 26th January 2011 8:58pm

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trikus says...
Seems there are 4 different spp.
All 'Monkey Pot Nuts' most likely all sub species really . Most are Amazonian so would be very tropical . And unlikely to grow anywhere south of me here in Tully .

Found this blog with great pic , can wait to plant one .

http://anthrome.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/lecythis-sapucaia-leaves/

Time: 27th January 2011 9:46am

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micarle says...
Thats a good link!!! Great pics. Yeah i'm still going to give it a go. A few people said that Brazil nuts would be the same but i have a few that have survived through our coldest winter in years,

Time: 27th January 2011 10:21am

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Jantina says...
Just as a reference point micarle, can you tell me what those cold temps would be? thanks.

Time: 27th January 2011 10:51am

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micarle says...
Hey Jantina, i have a very steep block that runs down to a creek, i have a digital thermometer down there that said -0.2, that was our coldest temp for as long as me or the family could remember!!! Minimum temps are usually from 1-4 on average but down the road only 5mins away they get regular -4's. On the morning of the -0.2 i was up early and there was no visable frost(thats not to say there wasn't a little bit)on the low parts of the block or in the shady area's.

Jantina what about your place???

Time: 27th January 2011 12:52pm

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snottiegobble says...
I remember Monkey Puzzle trees in England & they are probable the only Araucaria that can thrive in that cool climate. Dont know if they produced nuts though!

Time: 27th January 2011 12:58pm

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Jantina says...
Well micarle, I'm nowhere near as scientific as you, I'll have to start putting some thermometers around and get some hard data. Usually get up very early on those frost predicted nights and check where there is frost and what's frostfree. So there's quite a few spots that frost doesn't touch. We get about 3-4 usually light frosts a year but as a rule all our nights are cool, about 5c in winter and about 10-12c in summer. We are 37 metres above sea level and about 10 km from the coast. Lemons, white sapote, avocadoes,limes and lucumas all do well here after a year or so of adjustment. I used to think that if we moved further north I would necessarily be able to grow a wider range of edibles but since being on this forum realise that quite a few people further north have it harder than I do particularly inland. When talking to people around here about what they grow it's amazing how many think you can't even grow good eating grapes here, let alone things like avocado or white sapote, but in a good year (and protected from the birds) my sultana grapes ripen to sultanas on the vine. Admittedly we garden on a north facing slope in well drained soil. All in all MICRO CLIMATES seem to be largely the deciding factor in what you can grow where.
I would be very interested to hear of other peoples temperature ranges and frost experience.

Time: 28th January 2011 9:15am

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micarle says...
Yeah i was just interested to see what the temperature variation was from top of the property to bottom, turns out its about 1'c. I think its more the wind chill factor or a breeze/draft during low temps that causes most of the damage

Time: 28th January 2011 10:03am

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Jantina says...
Here during a frost there is no wind, very still. If there is a breeze I know there won't be any frost but nature has tricked me once or twice, ie go to bed with the wind blowing and wake up to utter stillness and frost.

Time: 28th January 2011 3:39pm

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micarle says...
Yep very true, still clear nights always result in frosts or very low temps

Time: 28th January 2011 5:17pm

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Cassowaryhill says...
@ Trikus. Where did you aquire your Lecythis from ?? Im desperately seeking....

Time: 18th June 2013 10:53am

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trikus says...
Local guy who spends a lot of time in Columbia . Ask your local Rare Fruit Australia group , some very keen growers in Mackay.

Time: 22nd June 2013 9:14am

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Mike says...
The 2 from southern Brazil would be good to have and L.pisonis is better to eat than lanceolata.

Time: 22nd June 2013 10:55am

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Jason says...
We are all talking about different trees but there's a Monkey puzzle tree in a garden near me, definitely see's minus 5c from time to time

Time: 24th June 2013 11:09pm

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Cassowaryhill says...
Thanks Trikus!! Yeah Mackay can grow just about anything!! ;)

Time: 18th July 2013 6:36pm

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Mike says...
Puzzle and pot are different.

Time: 18th July 2013 8:35pm

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Linton says...
This is a Monkey Puzzle tree (Araucaria) I have growing in my garden.

The Monkey Pot is Lecythis Pisonis but I don't think seeds are allowed to be imported.
Pictures - Click to enlarge

Picture: 1

Time: 23rd July 2013 7:17pm

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Mike says...
There are 27 Lecythis species variously called monkey pot and paradise nuts. L.ollaria is the only permitted species.Several are as good as Pisonis such as zabucajo but this species is more tropical.

Time: 23rd July 2013 7:54pm

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andy11 says...
Hey, not sure if those wondering where they could purchase a monkey puzzle tree found what they were looking for but the best I found was at:
http://www.roraimanursery.com.au/index.php

They don't seem to sell them online but I bought 5 from the nursery the other day. Good plants, and atleast double the height of the one I bought from yamina nursery for the Same price!
Blessings!

Time: 2nd March 2015 10:46am

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Swampy57 says...
The thread is about Araucaria auracana {Monkey puzzle} tree. The furthest north and my first encounter with this magnificent tree was on the Isle of Skye, Scotland.

Although under the influence of the warm North Atlantic ocean currrent, the area still gets significant snowfall in winter. This tree doesn’t seem to mind.

Talking about how tricky it is to get some plants to grow - we live in the Adelaide Hills but in a local environment that gets very little frost. We have two magnificent Macadamia nuts that are very productive in our back yard that are about six metres tall and just for shade I have a 30 metre Australian cedar {Toona australis} that I planted about 30 years ago. Things sometimes work if you just give it a go.

This week a Xanthorrhoea flowered after 10+ years in the ground with a 3+ metre spike.

I’m keen to get hold of some seeds to try to propagate the Monkey puzzle plant.

Time: 19th February 2020 11:52pm

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