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mycher starts with ...
We have a pleach tree or maybe by some other name. It is a cross between a plum and a peach. Absolutely the best.
red furry skin, with a layer of red flesh then to white in the centre. Any ideas of its real name and where can we get another one.
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mycher
Wallan
6th May 2009 8:08pm
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Jimmy says...
Pluot, aprium, plumcot are the only integenrix ones.

Sure a pewch is involved?
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7th May 2009 4:48pm
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mycher says...
Thanks for the reply Jimmy, definitely looks like a peach on the outside with the fur except it is deep red like a blood plum with fur. The leaf of the tree is like a peach. The fruit inside is like a peach but has a distinct taste with plum overtones. It was orginally bought as an Anzac peach, but is definitely not one. We also have in our garden the variaties you mentioned, so we are not mistaking this one for one of those. Hope you can enlighten me further.
Cheers
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mycher
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11th May 2009 12:28pm
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Jimmy says...
If its furry, its a peach, the rest are hairless.

Must be some kind of throwback?
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11th May 2009 1:44pm
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Firefly says...
I did a bit of googling and found some images for an Indian Blood Peach that appears to match your description.

Couldn't find any info that the variety is supposed to be present in Australia, though, just the US and Europe.
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Firefly
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11th May 2009 7:03pm
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Adam says...
Sounds like it is a variety of red fleshed peach (peche de vigne, blood peach etc), there are a number of different types about.

The "Black Boy" peach is relatively common in New Zealand, this has a very dark flesh.
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Adam
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12th May 2009 3:01pm
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mycher says...
Thank you to Firefly and Adam. Your pic is exactly what it is...Glad to see that there are some people out there that know what I am talking about. Took a fruit to 6 plus nurseries (not Bunnings) and all of them didnt have a clue. Once again Many thanks to all who helped.

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mycher
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12th May 2009 4:58pm
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Adam says...
Sounds like you might have something interesting, I haven't seen a red fleshed peach for sale in Australia to date.
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13th May 2009 10:33am
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Firefly says...
mycher, since it seems your peach tree is a rare variety you may like to try sharing or selling some scionwood or budwood.
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Firefly
Penrith NSW
13th May 2009 6:20pm
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Julie says...
mycher, does it taste good? That's all I really want from a peach - I don't care what it looks like!

I still grow Hale Haven, an old-fashioned variety that no-one grows any more. It's delicious and bears heavily.
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Julie
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14th May 2009 2:05pm
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mycher says...
Hi Julie, this is a very different taste to a normal peach. Can be a little on the tart, but gives a hint of plum flavour to the peach, that's why I thought it was a peach/plum cross. Just having some now from the storage, (good old fowlers vacola) with cream. Unbelievable flavour. When you preserve or stew this peach, all the juice runs red and colours the whole fruit. Hubby is going to try and grow some from the pips. Here's hoping.
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mycher
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15th May 2009 7:54pm
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Firefly says...
mycher, you'd be guaranteed to get the same variety if you grew a new tree from grafts of this old one.

Yalca fruit trees http://www.yalcafruittrees.com.au/
isn't too far away from you, they might be interested in doing the job for you.

Alternatively, you could buy any random peach tree and try to graft onto it yourself.
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Firefly
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16th May 2009 7:52am
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mycher says...
thanks Firefly, will look them up. Husband is a great gardener, but grafting is beyond him.
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mycher
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18th May 2009 8:20pm
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Cindy says...
Hi Mycher, I've been trying to get my hands on one of these trees or some seeds to plants. Would you mind sharing a few stones/pips?
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Cindy
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1st June 2009 1:50pm
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mycher says...
Hi I have no pips or stone at the moment, but happy to send some during the next season. My email is
cjj@iprimus.com.au. Please contact me and will organise something.
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mycher
Wallan
4th June 2009 4:17pm
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Julie says...
mycher, to be on the safe side and prevent spam, write your email address cjj at iprimus dot com dot au.:)
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Julie
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4th June 2009 6:47pm
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mycher says...
thanks Julie. Always something new to learn...

Cheers
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mycher
 
15th June 2009 7:53pm
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Jason says...
Hi Mycher. I managed to find a 3 year old mature Pleach last sunday at Bunnings. The staff didnt seem to know much about it but I thought it was too good to pass up so bought it. Approx 7 feet tall and $110

The sign said Plum x Peach and a bunnings price tag on the pot said Pleach.

I cant seem to find much about them. In America it appears to be called a Tri Lite.

Ill post some pictures of mine when i get a chance with the camera in some daylight.
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Jason
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23rd June 2009 10:56pm
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Jason says...
Still cant seem to get home early enough so heres a photo tonight. Ive also scanned the price tag so you can see the name.
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Jason
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25th June 2009 10:55pm
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russ says...
is it double graft - plum and peach on the same tree, rather than a cross as such?
Just wondered as i have been trying to source a double graft peach and nectarine as i want, peach, but the Mrs wants nectarine and we only have space for 1.
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russ
Perth NOR
30th June 2009 8:51pm
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Jason says...
I originaly thought this when i spotted it but bunnings lady was very doubtful and compared it to a plumcot. ie a cross and not grafts.

Here is a close shot of the main branches if you can spot a graft or not. (I would be more than happy with 2 fruits but at present im considering it to be just the 1)

Do plums graft with peaches?
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Jason
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30th June 2009 9:33pm
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peter says...
jason,
picture no.1 just at the horizontal
cut in the trunk which is about level
with the top of the pot is where the
lppks to be.
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peter
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30th June 2009 10:01pm
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peter says...
and that funny word should be looks.
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peter
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30th June 2009 10:02pm
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peter says...
and normaly a double graft would have
two branches rising from beside that
horizontal cut.

jason.
if you dig down into the soil in the top
of the pot how far down can you get before you find any roots?
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peter
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30th June 2009 10:08pm
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Jason says...
Roots are almost immediate below the surface. Looks like a single graft onto some root stock but no double grafts.

My guess, a hybrid which is not that common. Ill be interested to see how the fruit is.
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Jason
Perth
30th June 2009 11:03pm
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mycher says...
Hi Jason, I think you may have two trees grafted onto one. There is actually no single variety called a Pleach. I made that up originally when trying to get a name for mine. Mine is a Blood Peach or Blackboy Peach as know in NZ. Think someone must have sneaked a few pips in and grew it. I bought mine from a private seller at a country market. Have not come across one again.
Good luck with your pleach. Very handy to have to fruits on one tree, save of space and pruning..
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mycher
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9th July 2009 8:32pm
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Jason says...
Bunnings had this one displayed as a Pleach (See image of label above).

I'd be quite happy with either a cross fruit or 2 different varieties. I guess ill see come spring which way it is.
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Jason
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10th July 2009 8:58pm
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Dave says...
I bought one (a Pleach) from local nursery today. Wood looked like a peach or nectarine, but more red in colour.

Label also included "leaf curl fungus resistant"...this attracted me, as we have severe leaf curl fungus problems here.
Any comments on your experiences with resistance to fungus or fungi?

Looking forward to getting it established.
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Dave
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21st July 2009 7:17pm
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Lizzie says...
Blackboy peaches fabulous. Grow from stones & they fruit within a couple of years. Just remove stones & freeze in plastic bags. Cook by putting into boiling syrup & JUST bring to boil. BEAUTIFUL. No spaying required.Peaches need too much spraying but these beauties are easy care & organic!
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Lizzie
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16th August 2009 1:35pm
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Julie says...
I've never heard of Blackboy peaches. Is it a variety commonly grown in NZ?

What do you mean by 'these... are organic'? Isn't that just the method used to grow them?

You mention cooking - are they nice to eat raw?
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Julie
Roleystone WA
16th August 2009 3:07pm
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James says...
I had a PLEACH given to me and it grew for 3 years then rotted at the graft and blew over!! DISASTER because I never got to graft it and it was not only the sweetest most delicious fruit but because of the grotty grey wooly skin the birds didn't even see them!!!! I just managed to buy 2 more from Flower Power in Warrigal Road, Chadstone (next to office works) but no more left!! Maybe next Winter. Can't wait for my new ones to fruit!!
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James
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16th August 2009 11:38pm
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Lizzie says...
Yes Black Boy peaches are quite common in NZ. Organic as never need spraying. OK raw but need to be ripe as a bit sharp otherwise & skin is on the furry side!.A mature tree produces 100s of kilos of fruit.
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Lizzie
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23rd August 2009 3:23pm
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Julie says...
Lizzie, do you get Mediterranean fruit fly in NZ? That's the only thing I have to spray for. Otherwise, completely organic.
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Julie
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24th August 2009 2:29pm
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Jason says...
I can now confirm that mine is a hybrid. All the tree has the same fruit and leaves. It does look half way between a Peach and Plum also.

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Jason
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3rd November 2009 2:23pm
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Jason says...
Pic from today
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Jason
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3rd November 2009 2:26pm
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Lizzie says...
Hi Julie,
No we don't have the Mediterranean fruit fly in NZ. We have 3 Black Boy peaches that were planted 2 years ago [seedlings grown from stones] & this Spring they are absolutely covered with fruit. The "mother" tree was a beauty so hoping the "Babies" will be just as good. I love the fact that they never have to be sprayed.
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8th November 2009 3:40pm
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