Alphonso mango (forum)

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hi guys just wondering why Indian varieties of mangoes are not available here in Australia such as Alphonso, Kesar, Badami. Pakistani Chaunsa and Sindri are the best but no here why? growing conditions? thanks Jack

Time: 31st October 2014 9:28pm

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denise1 says...
Kesar and Benishan mangos from India were in the NZ shops middle of this winter. Only two shops I know of that had them. The seeds produced the most healthy and hardy seedlings I ever grew even though cold winter. Both shops were part of a chain group as they were too expensive for single shops to buy them as they were about $8 each. I let them sit in the shop until marked down, ripe and sweet. Next winter you could check your local importers.

Time: 1st November 2014 7:23am

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Markmelb says...
Hi Denise - would like to hear more about those indian seedlings? How old are your plants? were they Poly,s? Have you got them to flower yet? some photos?

I will put up some pics in 2 months of my Honey Golds now 30cm tall and starting to push new growth now.

My 2mt 15 y/o KP in big pot flowering fully now - has had fruit but not many but well acclimatised - thenks, Mark

Time: 1st November 2014 8:30am

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denise1 says...
I only have the current seasons seedlings, no big trees .They were all mono seeds.

Time: 1st November 2014 10:18am

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Markmelb says...
so Denise they wont grow true to type? Get yourself some Honey Golds to sow this year - they are Polys :)

Time: 1st November 2014 10:44am

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denise1 says...
benishan, and kesar in particular are the best sweetest mango I have ever tasted. Even though they had to ripen from picked green.

Time: 1st November 2014 10:45am

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Brain says...
Simple answer is quarantine and market forces. I would love to grow an Alphonso though, having read all the rave reviews on line.

Time: 1st November 2014 1:45pm

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VF says...
Alphonso is around. I know Tropical Fruit World has had poor (almost nonexistent) fruit set with their mature tree, which they believe may be due to lack of heat. They have recently planted a couple more near their processing shed in hope that the radiated heat and general protection may give them better results. Brissie may give better results.

Here's an article on National Mango Genebank and the varieties they had 8yrs ago (would be more now).
http://www.stfc.org.au/mangoes-at-the-australian-national-mango-genebank
It seems they do supply budwood, but it may be only available to commercial interests. It'd be worth contacting them if you're able to graft.

Time: 1st November 2014 9:22pm

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Brain says...
Thanks for posting the list vf, i salivated at the varieties. I might just have to start growing mango rootstock!


Time: 2nd November 2014 10:25pm

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VF says...
Haha, some of the varieties I have would only be worthy as rootstocks - bought in a moment of madness! Yeah, the list is droolworthy. I'd love to know what extras they have now.😃

Time: 3rd November 2014 10:53pm

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mango-jack says...
I've tried various varieties of mangoes over the years. They've come from Mali, Dominica, jamiaca, Honduras, Venezuala, Brazil, Canary Islands, Thailand, Isreal, Bangladesh, India, but the best imo are the Chaunsa variety from Pakistan

Time: 5th November 2014 12:00am

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phil@tyalgum says...
I was kindly give a Zill mango seedling recently, I wonder if anyone knows details about this particular cultivar.

Time: 5th November 2014 2:49pm

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I see Daley's is now readying some Alphonso trees for sale. Hmmm, I have no space for another tree, but it may be worth top grafting branches on my current trees.

Time: 20th November 2014 2:17pm

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sternus1 says...
Probably worth it really, a very fine mango by all reports. I have space, but I'm not sure I have the water.

Time: 20th November 2014 5:31pm

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Brain says...
Might just have to buy one ... Need to do some more research in size of tree. But good on daley for puting it in production.

Time: 21st November 2014 1:32pm

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Brain says...
'Zill' is a Haden seedling selected in Lake Worth , Florida in 1940. The fruit are born in clusters and have a tendancy to ripen all at the same time. The flesh is firm, juicy, and has a very pleasant aroma. The flavor is sweet having just a hint of pineapple.

http://toptropicals.com/html/toptropicals/articles/fruit/varieties_mango.htm



Time: 21st November 2014 10:06pm

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sternus1 says...
It's not that Zill, it's A Zill(S) Lemon Zest CV.

Time: 21st November 2014 10:14pm

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Brain says...
The original Zill came from fairchild tropical gardens. I believe zill is a friend of dr campbell and so new Zill cvs are prob have something to do with them.

Time: 23rd November 2014 8:37pm

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