Apache pecan seedlings (forum)

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I just purchased 10 Apache seedlings and was wondering if this variety needs a pollinator to produce nuts? Growing mainly for shade, but nuts would be a bonus.

Time: 30th March 2018 8:09pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Anthony

Pecan can produce nuts on its own but oftentimes of minimal and inferior in quality. If you want decent high quality nuts you must plant another variety to cross pollinate your Apache. Your tree is in group B (protogynous) meaning its flower is pistil receptive first (ready to receive a male pollen) before shedding it's own male pollen. You may want a variety from group A (protandrous) which will shed its pollen first before its female flowers becomes receptive. It's wind pollinated so it's beneficial to plant A & B varieties alternately for better cross pollination. Since yours is a B type you will need A types like Caddo, Cherokee, Cape fear, Cheyenne, Desirable and Pawnee. Just double check the pecan pollination chart to make sure.

Happy gardening :-)

Time: 1st April 2018 5:46am

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Markmelb says...
Apache seedlings are still A - you should have got a couple Bs to compliment - even a self pollinating grafted B plant that will bear alot sooner while waiting or graft other As onto seedlings? Cheers.

Time: 1st April 2018 5:04pm

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Manfred says...
Why would you think they're apache seedlings? If the mother was apache they were presumably fertilised by something else. The father gets an equal share of the blame/credit.

Time: 1st April 2018 5:41pm

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Anthony says...
The tag on the plant clearly states that they are Apache seedlings. I assumed that Daley’s know what they are selling🤔.
Like I said, the trees are more for shade than anything else but nuts would be a bonus.
There are a couple of large pecan plantations nearby, so I might graft a few down the track(or get someone who knows what they’re doing to graft them for me) . Thanks for the info. 👍

Time: 1st April 2018 7:36pm

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Markmelb says...
Yes they are seedlings from an Apache tree pollinated by whatever is nearby making it a Hybrid so isnt true to type - a grafted tree is -

It is probably wrong then to call it that on a tag but it probably will be vigorous and grow much larger than a grafted one. I planted 2 in a one hole to reduce growth last spring - Cape Fear & Mohawk - both growing quite well - soon put on my edibles page

Time: 2nd April 2018 5:47pm

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Anthony says...
So given that it’s a hybrid, which make sense, how does this effect pollination in the future? Does this mean they can pollinate each other successfully ??? I don’t know much about nuts, only dragonfruit.

Time: 5th April 2018 7:13pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Anthony

Since yours is a seedling you will not know what pollination type will it belong until it starts to flower unless it was self pollinated which is possible. Will it follow the pollinator parent or the pollen recipient parent? To be safe plant both types to ensure higher nut set success.

And yes, there is a possibility that they can cross pollinate each other in the future because some might be type A like one of their parents and some type B like one of their ancestor. So it's a lucky draw including the quality of the produce.

Like what I've said earlier, if you demand higher success with regards to pollination and better quality of nuts, it's prudent to buy grafted known cultivars of both types. But if you are an adventurous soul just let nature dictate it's course by not adding anything to your current collection of pecan hybrids. Like Forrest Gump said 'It's (seedlings) like a Box of Chocolate, You'll Never know what's you gonna get'.

Happy gardening :-)

Time: 6th April 2018 9:59pm

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Anthony says...
So, out of the 10 seedlings I planted, could I end up with both A and B varieties🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Sounds ok to me. As I’m really only growing them as a shade area in an awkward spot, some nuts are better than no nuts, I reckon!
Thanks for the info. 👍

Time: 10th April 2018 7:51pm

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