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Claudia starts with ...
Hi, I live in Belrose, Sydney amd would like to buy an Apple trea which will grow well here and I can keep in a large container. I like the sound of the Pinkabelle, is it Ok to grow in Sydney?
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Time: 16th August 2008 2:07pm

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Elizabeth says...
Hi Claudia,

I'm in Lane Cove, Sydney and I have been experimenting with apples suited to Sydney over the last few years. I currently have Pinkabelle as well as a dwarf Gala, Granny Smith, Pink Lady and the 'tropical apples' from Daleys 'Anna' and 'Dorsett Golden'. I've also ordered dwarf Fuji, Lady Williams, Mutsu, Gravenstein and Snow recently and have two crab apples. I had fruit off both Pinkabelle and Gala last year - my other trees are too young to fruit much yet.

For Sydney, you need to look for trees with low to medium chill - I'm experimenting with anything up to about 600 hours chill. I think Pinkabelle would be a sound choice though you might think about getting another dwarf apple to pollinate it such as Gala.

I've been doing lots of research lately if you have any questions. Also I would recommend checking out any websites for Southern California - particularly Dave Wilson's Nursery or Kuffel Creek for useful info for a similar climate to Sydney.

Time: 16th August 2008 6:08pm

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Claudia says...
Hi Elizabeth,
Thanks for the information on the various apple trees. Sounds like you will have a lovely apple orchard soon. We did go ahead and get the Pinkabelle and I'm now debating whether to get another one for crosspollination or go for a different dwarf variety. It has to be something I can grow in a pot. Can you grow the Gala in a large pot?
Happy growing.

Time: 30th August 2008 10:36am

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Anonymous says...
Hi Claudia,

The cross pollinators for Pinkabelle are the same for Pink Lady - crabapples, Gala, Granny Smith, Red Delicious and probably Lady Williams and Fuji as well. I would guess that Red Delicious is probably not well suited to Sydney as the winter climate isn't cool enough (about 700 hours). I can personally recommend Gala though. Chill factor is not an exact science - it appears that for many apples the necessary chill has been traditionally overestimated (for home garden use anyway).

For a pot, its important to get the tree on dwarf rootstock. Gala is readily available on dwarf rootstock both from Daleys and Flemmings stockists such as Hargraves at Dural or Swanes. Flemmings make a 'trixie' Gala that only grows to 1.5m which I saw bare rooted at Hargraves a month or so ago. Perhaps you could call to see if they still have stock? (They have Pinkabelle too). I think their bare root trees are still 50% off.

Time: 30th August 2008 1:00pm

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Elizabeth says...
Sorry, I'm anonymous above replying!

Time: 30th August 2008 11:56pm

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Libby says...
I bought a golden delicious and a pink lady this year in Mar08 and was then told that they are not suitable to cross pollinate. So I later found a granny smith and red fuji in May 08 and planted them as pairs (duo planting in the same hole). They're flowering now and I can see that something resembling fruit is starting to set. Does this mean I will actually get fruits in the 1st year itself? That would be fantastic. Someone at Bunnings nursery told me that if you tie the branches down to the ground, it can actually fruit better. Is this correct? He told me the reason but I can't remember why. Alway how do I make sure pest/birds don't get to the fruits. Do I need to spray anything? I am a bit hesitant as I want to avoid chemicals if possible. Can someone offer tips for growng succesful apple trees. I am in Ryde which is suppose to be home of Granny Smith so chill factor should be ok.

Time: 19th October 2008 5:49pm

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Elizabeth says...
Hi Libby,

You may get a little fruit in the first year, especially if you purchased two year old trees. (But you will get much more fruit in subsequent years.) You can help fruit set by watering regularly around the trees in the few weeks after pollination and fertilise with a little sulfate of potash.

I think you will be fine with regard to chill in Ryde with Granny Smith, Pink Lady and Red Fuji (all these will cross polinate). Golden Delicious will cross pollinate with Granny Smith and Red Fuji too, but I'm not sure how this one will fair for chill as it is about 700 hours (the others being 600 or under) - I'd be interested to hear how it goes as I don't have Golden Delicious.

I don't spray for anything as yet. The biggest problem in my area (Lane Cove) is possums eating the ripe fruit. I'm going to try and protect my ripening fruit with bags or netting. I haven't had a lot of problems with bugs so far - watch out for caterpillars, slugs, aphids etc that eat the foliage. I haven't had a problem with fruit fly in my apples (only tomatoes) but it is potentially a problem, as are codling moths.

Time: 19th October 2008 9:32pm

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Anonymous says...
Can tell me when can i buy this fuji aple tree
jim

Time: 27th December 2008 8:17am

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Anonymous says...
try naga fu 2. its the red version and more popular.

Time: 27th December 2008 9:04am

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Libby says...
I bought 4 apple trees this year: Pink Lady, GrannySmith, Golden Delicious n Fuji. All are bearing fruit at the moment but not the Fuji. Anyone can suggest any reasons why. It did have flowers same time as the other 3 appletrees.

Time: 27th December 2008 4:47pm

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Jantina says...
Libby, First year fruit trees need to be putting their energy into establishing a good root system and top growth which is what sustains a tree. Your Fuji apple is the only one doing the right thing.

Time: 27th December 2008 5:57pm

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Libby says...
I am not far from you Liz in Lane Cove and my biggest disappointment is the possums/birds/etc eating the fruits. I tried hanging CDs, wind chimes to scar them but no avail. I tried to bag them with plastic bags with holes cut through but with some hot weather, the leaves get burnt. I even used those fruit, onions,garlic netting bags but those pesky possums/blue tongue just rips it apart. Anyone got any ideas/suggestions.

Time: 21st January 2009 5:24pm

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Mark says...
I have granny smith and jonathon apple trees. When is harvest time? I live in Blacktown. The fruit is already a good size.

Time: 19th March 2009 6:20pm

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Jantina says...
Ripe apples should pull off the tree very easily.

Time: 19th March 2009 6:24pm

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Farah says...
Hi Elizabeth

How were your Apples this year? You are growing just about all of the varieties I am considering buying - the yummy crunchy ones! :)

Based on your experience with the Sydney climate, can you please help me to choose which ones to get? I need to buy as FEW trees as possible for the maximum return...to minimise the trouble I'm going to get into with my DH for buying "more [bleep] plants!" :) Which varieties should together provide the best crop of crunchy juicy apples over the course of the year?

(I am also considering a Huonville Crab just for the novelty, if that has any pollination implications for the others.)

Thank you!!

Time: 24th July 2009 12:23am

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Mark says...
Thank you Jantina.
I did try one early but it was very tart! The Jonathons were lovely. I had a few late apples arrive on the trees. They are small and colouring up well. Will they be any good?

Time: 25th July 2009 11:05am

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Claudia says...
I am wondering if I should spray my young apple trees in the winter to stop the rust spots forming on the leaves when they regrow. There were some rust spots on the old leaves and I'm worried it may be a fungus.
Also when is the best time to fertilise the trees and with what? They are still in pots.
Thanks

Time: 1st August 2009 3:05pm

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kert says...
Are they rust or is it apple scab. for apple scab 5% lime or wood ash after full leafing out is preventative .(as an aside is "yummy" a suitable adjective for use by the over fives?)

Time: 4th August 2009 1:09pm

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Dekka says...
Absolutely! Especially when some contributors show a distinct lack of maturity in attacking other peoples'use of the language. Now THAT'S childish.
Goody! Goody! yum! yum!...Ah! That feels great!!!

Time: 4th August 2009 2:25pm

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amanda says...
Wow Dekka - I can't believe how many plants u have on a suburban block! Your garden looks lovely and an interesting collection of some that I didn't even know were edible! Good on you!

Time: 4th August 2009 4:26pm

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Dekka says...
Thankyou Amanda,
It's all still in its infancy and I suppose as one thing grows another may be crowded out but I tend to think that degree of competition will result in a healthier garden overall. My main reason for the high concentration of plants was to increase the humidity as the yard was toast-dry before. I hope to have some more pics soon.
By the way, I think you've done wonders given what your up against. Intelligent practises winning over adversity. Don't give up!

Time: 4th August 2009 9:12pm

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amanda says...
Hay Dekka - I agree about the humidity aspect 2 - I think I have spread my garden too far n wide - and as I do all of the work on my own - it gets a bit bigger than BenHur sometimes! It keeps me fit tho' (better than slogging it out at the gym...can't eat the dumbells)

There is much I would change in hindsight - if only I had the "toys"
to do the big jobs! :)

Time: 4th August 2009 9:39pm

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judy says...
I planted one apple tree(1.5 in height last year)& one this year (same height) & nothing is happening no budds no leaves no new groth.both trees from flower power.

judy

Time: 6th September 2012 11:12am

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John Mc says...
Judy, if you are talking about last years apple tree you may have a problem.
If you are talking about this years apple tree it might be a tad early for any growth just yet. Mine are still completely dormant and I'm in a warm area.
Just as a matter of interest, I have recently converted (topworked)one of my old unproductive tripple grafted apple trees to a Pink Lady and Granny Smith, both late season cultivars.

Time: 6th September 2012 10:12pm

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KarenW says...
Hi Elizabeth,

If you read this I would love an update on how your apples have fared in Sydney. I'm considering planting but wary of the climate being too hot for even the low chill varieties.

many thanks,
Karen

Time: 3rd August 2018 12:03am

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KarenW says...
Hi Libby,

Wondering how your apples have done over the many years since this forum....
I'm considering pink lady and granny smith for st ives sydney, but wary after hearing some bad stories about apples cooking in 40 deg days...

many thanks,
Karen

Time: 3rd August 2018 12:11am

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