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len starts with ...
g'day,

i am wanting to find how to buy the seeds for the chinese red bayberry or seedlings

can you help please

thank you

Time: 4th August 2014 10:22am

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sternus1 says...
Len,

please email me at l j o 84 at hush mail dot com

thanks
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Time: 4th August 2014 10:40am

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denise1 says...
cn seeds in China will sell a whole kilo of seeds if you want to grow hundreds of them. They will still be fresh, would need some GA3 soaking, and will take up to 12 months to sprout in a coldframe.

Time: 4th August 2014 10:57am

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sternus1 says...
...or, you can put in an order with sternus.

Time: 4th August 2014 11:51am

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Mike Tr says...
I treated black carbon from taiwan,various chinese reds and a black variety with GA3 in a range of concentrations and with various cold treatments.A small seeds were planted without treatment as a control.No refridgerated or GA3 seeds popped up and I see a few untreated controls coming up after 9 weeks.Don't treat with GA3 or cold is my advice.

Time: 4th August 2014 1:12pm

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Mike Tr says...
Make that only a small number of control seeds were planted without treatment.

Time: 4th August 2014 1:13pm

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sternus1 says...
They actually come from Hainan which is subtropical/tropical. Not sure why they'd need to be striated, but the going theory is that they need to be. No doubt different varieties behave differently as is the case with all kinds of things. Ingas are like that too apparently though the inverse is true--some require more tropical environments than others.

Time: 4th August 2014 2:15pm

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Mike Tr says...
The news from Taiwan is don't mess with bayberry seeds just plant them.Considering my failures I think it is true.Ireceived the most tropical varieties where climate is similar to mine.
Ingas range widely into the subtropics so it stands to reason there is a range of cliamtes suited to various species and varieties.

Time: 4th August 2014 6:12pm

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len says...
ok are either of yu able to e/mail me please?

gardenlen at skymeshdotcomdotau

many thanks

i would be thinking to soak in hot water over a 24 hour period, and/or scarify teh hull with a hacksaw maybe or rubbing on course emery

anyhow your help's are needed

Time: 5th August 2014 5:13am

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denise1 says...
I tried sandpaper for about a hundred seeds but all I got was worn tired fingers. Only a few sprouts now and then. After 12 months in coldframe however, all sprouted together as of magic. Partly it seems they need weathering for moisture to arrive at the embryo, then sprout at once with the tug of the moon or some such cue. The coldframe is a halved plastic barrel on its side, with drainage holes and an opaque plastic top. The two long edges need reinforcing so they dont warp.

Time: 5th August 2014 10:32am

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len says...
thanks denise

might try and angle grinder be easier than rubbing using hands maybe

then into 6" pots covered with glad bag tents, where they get morning sun maybe

thought someone here may offer some fresh seeds 4 sale dunno, bit dubious about those on ebay from the US others from china and hong kong, doubt their freshness

Time: 5th August 2014 3:22pm

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len says...
ok now how about a source for seeds?

len

Time: 6th August 2014 9:54am

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BenW says...
I got some seeds from ebay. They are an Australian seller and the seeds all arrived promptly and looked to be correctly labelled. Now you've made me go back they have another round of interesting things for me to blow my spending money on...

My understanding is that Red Bayberry from seed are 'variable', to be polite, but worst case I will have some stock to graft better varieties onto if I can get them :)

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/herbnerds

Time: 6th August 2014 2:05pm

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len says...
thanks ben,

i may very well still buy from herbnerds, just not sure about using seeds 3+ months old?

you say you ah success?

can you explain teh G3 and carbon thingy please.

Time: 9th August 2014 4:20pm

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len says...
ok Ben

seeds are bought

Time: 9th August 2014 6:42pm

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BenW says...
I haven't planted mine yet tbh Len but they look to be in good nick.

From what I've read they can take 2 years to germinate. That seems to match what others have said above.

Just don't give up if they don't germinate the first year :)

Time: 9th August 2014 7:48pm

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len says...
mine are now planted, 3 got the cold water treatment in bottom of fridge, the others got the boiling water treatment all soaked for 2 weeks, each seed in a 1 gallon pot, which I soaked, now covered and in warm place, fingers crossed hope something by xmas

Time: 29th August 2014 4:43pm

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Mike Tr says...
I tried multiple treatments with fridge and GA3 combinations and of hundreds of seeds only 8 came up.7 tropical black carbons fro taiwan in my control with no treatment and a chinese black also in the control pot with no treatent.Everything I said before about GA3 treatment of Myrica rubra seeds I now take back.

Time: 29th August 2014 11:31pm

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denise1 says...
My fresh seeds from China I planted immediately on arrival in a sunny coldframe. Six months later I lifted them and soaked in GA3 and put them back in the cold frame. That brought on a small number of seedlings but it was at a total of twelve months old that they finally (nearly all) sprouted. The previous year I had exactly the same treatment and response. The plants were potted and put in the greenhouse and grew really fast and lanky. I think it best to not put in too big a pot and plant outside at 30 to 50cms high.

Time: 30th August 2014 10:45am

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Mike Tr says...
Mine took 8 weeks to pop up and they all came up at the same time.Fresh seeds seems to be the key and mine were eaten days before sending to me.I don't know if I am too hot for them still even if my variety is the most heat loving of all.

Time: 1st September 2014 7:19am

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