Black Sapote (forum)

Kathy starts with ...
Heya Everyone,

I am hoping that someone can help me ID my black sapote flowers?

We can't find a record of whether we bought a seedling or grafted but it has flowered for YEARS but we have no fruit set so either I am being too impatient (entirely possible), we have a male seedling, or a self-infertile grafted.

I can't find any really clear info online re IDing the male and female flowers. Does anyone know a good way? Or can post some pics to help me?

Thanks heaps,
Kathy


Time: 31st October 2011 12:41pm

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Nick says...
Gday Kathy, I couldnt find any pics of black sapote flowers but persimmon flowers are roughly the same. I would've thought that all black sapote trees would produce male and female flowers at the same time..
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Time: 31st October 2011 11:05pm

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John Mc says...
Do you have a pic of your sapote? Mostly seedling sapotes go straight up, with a straight central leader, where grafted cv's have some contortion or irregular growth habit. My grafted cv's are very contorted and have no central leader and are fruiting very low to the ground. I hope they do eventually get some height otherwise they'll be fruiting on the ground like strawberries.

Time: 1st November 2011 4:11pm

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anon says...
It depends on the scion wood selection...

Time: 2nd November 2011 11:00am

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Kathy says...
Heya Nick, apparently they can be boy/girl (self fertile or self infertile) OR boy only :( Boo.

The flower buds are just starting to come in now, in clusters of 3. Looks like there is one big one in the middle with a smaller one on either side.

They are similarly shaped to the persimmon flowers you put up there. If they follow the trend then the big one would be the girl and the little the boys. So maybe it is either not mature enough to fruit or self-infertile??

Time: 11th November 2011 9:59pm

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Kathy says...
Heya John, There is a pic on MyEdibles but I don't think that it's too clear. With your info I think that it might be a seedling. It tried to go straight up but my ex didn't plant it in a timely manner and it went crooked - I am slowly nursing it back to straight!!!! Has taken about 3 years but I am kinda getting there! :O)

Time: 11th November 2011 10:01pm

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John Mc says...
I couldn't believe what I was seeing at wyee Nursery a couple of days ago, a young seedling black sapote starting to flower. There's also a couple of grafted ones there for $39ea (in flower too, I might add). Not bad seeing the seedling ones there are $34.

Time: 11th November 2011 10:48pm

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Kathy says...
Ohh can't complain about that! They always have healthy plants there too.

Time: 11th November 2011 11:23pm

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vlct says...
After cooking with these fruit for the first time I'd love too give one a try a growing.. can they successfully be grown this far south... S.a ?
And a variety. Daleys have a later flowering variety. Would this be more suitable to avoid a late frost. ?

Time: 12th September 2014 1:26pm

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A.C says...
Ive got one growing I got from Perrys.Its a Tahiti variety 2 y.o, approx 1.4m tall has had plenty of flowers in the past ,no friut set.Its hasnt flowered this year,maybe fruit set? Wait and see.Strong advice trying to grow subtropicals in Adelaide,get your soil mix right.Clay is a killer.

Time: 12th September 2014 1:44pm

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vlct says...
Cheers a.c. prob good idea getting it local from Perry's. Do u know which variety you have. Do you think the chocolate named variety would be ok daleys have. Hopefully it sets some for you this year. Let me know if you need some help eating them :)

Time: 13th September 2014 7:11am

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A.C says...
I bought this tree at a time when I was first starting out at growing subtropicals.I put a bit of faith in Perrys discretion at providing a variety that would grow down here.I got a white sapote from them also which fruited first time last year which were absolutely divine,judging by their taste I"ll be OK. If you have done your research including looking at Daleys available varieties and you know that another variety will handle the frost/temperate climate in Adelaide,go for it. The key to making a proper choice is thorough research.The black sapote is a Tahiti variety and white sapote is a Ortega variety.

Time: 13th September 2014 2:35pm

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