Cinnamon vine Dioscorea batatas (forum)

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They look like animal scat, don't they? Well it's supposed to grow into yam. Not sure if I should plant them now that we're going into winter? Didn't think of that when I bought it :)
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Time: 30th April 2012 5:08pm

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Mike says...
Heya Mary I hope all is going well.I would call your tubers chinese yams,the most cold tolerant of all yams.It is good to see your planting tubers are under 1m long.I reckon toss them in the dirt and don't overwater.I have some D.esculenta in the fridge and hope to have some purple fleshed water yams in hand soon.I plan to share them with jujube.

Time: 30th April 2012 5:34pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Many thanks Mike. I have not received your envelopes, may be tomorrow. It is ok, I will let you know as soon as I get them.

Time: 30th April 2012 5:39pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Mike; I hope they will be ok over winter. I am growing them for their medicinal properties. We Chinese call them Mountain Medicine or Poor Man's Ginseng. Often put into soup with goji berries. The leaves are edible too. :)

Time: 30th April 2012 5:51pm

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Mike says...
Jujube they may be lost then because even pony express should not take that long.I squeezed quite a bit into small envelopes and that could be the problem.Mary is it the tubers that you eat?

Time: 30th April 2012 5:59pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,

My landlord knocked the door just now delivering two envelopes with full of valuable seeds, many thanks for your generosity. we share the same mail box and I checked twice today and found nothing.


Time: 30th April 2012 6:14pm

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Mike says...
That's good Lucy and I tried to label things properly and overcome my innate laziness.

Time: 30th April 2012 6:21pm

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MaryT says...
Yes, Mike. The tuber can be eaten fresh like potatoes or dried and use as medicine. Leaves can also be used like sweet potato leaves.

Time: 30th April 2012 6:35pm

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snottiegobble says...
Mike, would these yams grow down here? The sweet potatoes certainly do & the more I dig them the more I regard them as yams!

Time: 30th April 2012 7:21pm

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Mike says...
SG the purple yam D.alata probably no,the lesser yam D.esculenta probably,D.batatas definately and the air yam D.bulbifera yes but it is of lower quality.You could always try the more tasty types of sweet potato with creamy purple and the yellow flesh kinds.

Time: 30th April 2012 7:32pm

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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Mike! So D.esculenta & batatas are different or maybe batatas a hybrid from esculenta & something else, do you think? I would love to try them! My SPs are off white flesh with a pinky purple skin & very dog like!! Just dug it up! :-) OMG I cannot believe it, & I swear I never touched it apart from digging it up & washing it!It is 2&3/4kls ! C,mon Amanda beat that with a labradoodle!!!
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Time: 30th April 2012 9:26pm

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Mike says...
SG batatas is completely different and enjoys colder weather than the rest except maybe opposita? another chinese one.There is even an edible native one around here.SG are you sure you didn't mess with that tuber when it was young?

Time: 30th April 2012 9:59pm

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snottiegobble says...
Mike, any idea where I can source D. batatas?
( sounds like cypriot tennis champ)

No! never touched it till today. Already Ive been told I`m mistaken, its a BLOODHOUND!

Time: 30th April 2012 11:28pm

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MaryT says...
SG see top post pic 1 - I have 5 easy pieces and nervous about killing them - would you like to take a couple to have a go?

Time: 30th April 2012 11:40pm

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MaryT says...
SG on closer examination the 'turds' have white bits sprouting from them already so I doubt if it would be allowed in WA. I have put them in dirt as Mike suggested and see if they'll grow for me. Hopefully I'll find a way to get some to you in the future.

Time: 1st May 2012 7:19am

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Jantina says...
Snottie I got mine this autumn from AllRareHerbs don't know if they can send to WA

Time: 1st May 2012 8:48am

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Jantina says...
Oops that's the cinnamon vine one I got there, got my batatas from Daleys, they grow easily from a piece of the vine, Email coming your way.

Time: 1st May 2012 8:52am

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snottiegobble says...
Thanks everyone.I am now really intrigued by yams, but I found out ocas refuse to grow in the ground past Xmas even in the shade, yet I have 2 lovely plants in pots also kept in the shade over summer.
This makes me think that summer ground temperature alone kills them off here!

Time: 1st May 2012 1:16pm

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Mike says...
While I fooling around with pictures here is a large sweet unnamed passionfruit type with a few other volunteers who muscled in when they saw the new camera.
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Time: 4th May 2012 8:18pm

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David says...
Is that a Matisia ,whats it tatse like mike

Time: 4th May 2012 8:41pm

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Mike says...
Well howdy David, yes it is and I am just scratching in the kitchen for something to try my camera on.It is a small type and taste like...wait a minute......It is a good tasting one alright,more rockmelon than pumpkin with definate mango overtones.There is less flesh than some big ones.You don't know anyone after their seeds do you?

Time: 4th May 2012 8:50pm

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amanda says...
Lovely pic Mike! It all looks so good :) Hey - what are the small round things with the lychee type flesh?

Did you breed the passionfruit? Do you know it parentage?



Time: 4th May 2012 9:19pm

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Mike says...
Rambais amanda and those ones are about 25g each.The passionfruit is a from a seedling line of mixed up yellows.That one was very sweet and musky and a bit bigger and more elongate than a panama.

Time: 4th May 2012 9:27pm

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amanda says...
Ta :) Never heard of Rambais - they look good - what do they taste like?

So are u going to name your p/fruit "Mike's Special"...?? ;-)

Time: 4th May 2012 9:30pm

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Mike says...
The passionfruit wasn't from my yard and I actually prefer the more orange pulped passionfruit.Rambais are easten like jabiticabas by biting the skin sucking out the contents and swallowing seeds and all.Some prefer to spit the seeds out.The taste is hard to describe but maybe soft longkong....hang on....lychee and jabotica in a citrussy kinda way.These ones are goos alright and its a pity that my bananas and paw paws are all ripe as well.I don't know why I get queazy in the tummy every market day evening.

Time: 4th May 2012 9:44pm

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amanda says...
lol Mike...I am feeling the same! Just worked my way thru that bowl of p/fruit - they darkened up nicely and just started to crinkle - perfect time to eat a purple...

Funny how panamas are the opposite and best when firm shell...?

Does anyone eat those P.cinnabarinas? I never see or here about them? Someone once called them a QLD purple..?

Time: 4th May 2012 10:56pm

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David says...
Mike you are a tease

Time: 5th May 2012 6:33am

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Brendan says...
Hi Mike, bout time you bought a new camera! :-)
That first photo you posted was very large, I use 'MS paint' to reduce mine, google how to reduce photos :-)
Post more pics too. (like of your garden etc)

Time: 5th May 2012 6:34am

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Mike says...
Brendan you are right and I am a slow learner.The sun is blazing out the front but has lit up the back yet.I will race out there in maybe 15 minutes to take some snaps.
Oh yeah the yams.The top right one is clearly esculenta but the bell shaped one on the left is pretending to be alata but has pale flesh.

Time: 5th May 2012 6:55am

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Brendan says...
Hi Mike, here's how I reduce photos.

Click on My Pictures (that is where all your photos should be:).
Right click on the photo you want to reduce, drag pointer to Open With...., click on Paint.
Click on Image, then Stretch/Skew. (You'll see the number 100 in blue)
Type in 20, hit the Tab key, type in 20 again, hit the OK button.
Hit the red exit button top right, when they ask Save Changes etc, click Yes.
That's it, you've now reduced that photo :-)

If it reduces too much, change the 20 to 30.
Hope that makes sense.

Time: 5th May 2012 8:17am

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MaryT says...
Brendan I have a Mac and what I do is click on the photo then click email; it gives you a choice of small medium or large. I choose medium and it creates an email with the photo in medium size; I then drag that photo to the Forum where it says Pictures: Choose File.

Time: 5th May 2012 8:28am

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BJ says...
Hopefully chupa-chupa and rambai are around when Im up in 1.5 weeks!

Time: 5th May 2012 8:39am

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Mike says...
BJ it is winding down but you might just clip the tail end of a few respectable fruit.All the quarabea are small now.

Time: 5th May 2012 8:59am

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Nick T says...
Just harvested some of the beautiful asian shallots you sent me Mike, I'm assuming I can use the leaves in cooking? :)

Time: 5th May 2012 3:28pm

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Mike says...
Nick those shallots are meant for greens and the nutty bulbs.Some folk continually trim the tops as needed and this is at the expense of bulb size.

Time: 5th May 2012 4:56pm

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MaryT says...
I'm one of them 'folk' Mike since I forgot to plant them until quite recently; the greens are great but I still hope they'll make me some babies... good news is the cinnamon vines all sprouted and are in leave. Very happy and excited.

Time: 23rd May 2012 11:28am

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