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I wanted to try growing coffee for my hubby and was just wondering what would be a good wone to grow in Adlaide South Australia - Any suggestions

Time: 28th June 2007 12:33am

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Correy says...
Here is a picture of some coffee plants I am growing in pots.

If you are able to provide ideal conditions such as low wind and very sunny. Then I would get a mixture of Catui, K7 and Arabica and see which ones are best down there.

If it gets cold and windy I probably wouldn't get the cactui or if you do, just take care of it until it is established. The K7 is very hardy and resistant to the coffee rust

Here is a list of the Coffee Trees that we have.
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Time: 28th June 2007 10:53am

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DellDGM says...
Thanks Thats a help. Thanks for the picture it answered one of my questions about growing them in pots. Do you need more than 1 for pollination or anything like that.

Time: 28th June 2007 11:55pm

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Correy says...
Nope they don't require cross pollination. The Cactui is meant to be the best for pots. However even the K7 will remain dwarfed if you grow them in pots. Otherwise they can grow quite tall and you may need a ladder to pick the beans.

Time: 29th June 2007 12:09am

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DellDGM says...
Thanks Correy - glad to see someone else is up this late like me! How old are your trees and are they fruiting yet - did it take long before they started fruiting?

Time: 29th June 2007 12:18am

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Correy says...
They are meant to get fruit in their 3rd year and I haven't had them that long yet Next year this time fingers crossed.

Do you have any frosts in Adelaide?

Time: 29th June 2007 12:28am

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DellDGM says...
in the hills yes but where we are not that much but occassionally - from what I can gather I think I'm in whats called a mediterainan/arid area. How bout you what state are you even in?

Time: 29th June 2007 12:53am

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Magdy says...
I have riased few carob trees from seeds, and I want to plant a couple in the ground. I know that I need to plant a male and a female to get some fruit. Can anyone advise on how to tell which tree is male/female.

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Time: 4th July 2007 10:47pm

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Greg says...
Check this link out for what a male flower looks like http://trees.stanford.edu/images/Ceratonia_gal/Ceratonia_gal-Images/1.jpg
The female flower will not have any yellow male anthers, but will have noticable female stigmas. Daleys will have a bisexual grafted variety Clifford available in October

Time: 5th July 2007 4:56pm

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Correy says...
Just letting you guys know that my K7 coffee plants that I am growing in pots are pushing forth flowers after only 2 years. I am very happy I will keep you updated and add a few pictures when they are in bloom.

Time: 24th August 2007 2:14pm

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Sandy says...
Thanks correy for your reply to my coffee query. I have two KY type coffee plants. I am glad yours has got flowers on it already, even if it is 2 years. Good luck with your growing!

Time: 25th September 2007 8:02pm

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Correy says...
Here are pictures of my K7 coffee Tree after 2 years of growing in a 35 litre bonsai bag.

You can't capture the smell of the flowers in the picture however when you walk past you can smell it from a distance and it is very pleasant like a frangipani.

Picture 1: Just before the flowers open (they can take about a month getting to this stage.)

Picture 2: All of a sudden they bloom and as you can see they are very attractive white flowers with a full and fragrant smell. (Day 1 of the flowers opening)

Picture 3: This is Day 2 and the smell is even greater now so I often see bees and flies getting the nectar.

The flowers only last about 4 days and then they go brown, wither and fall off.

After another couple of weeks you will notice that where it flowered it starts to bulge as a tiny bean starts forming.

I think it takes about 5-9 months before the beans are totally formed and ready to pick... I hope it is worth the wait and I will keep you updated with pics.

A great idea for an outdoor coffee shop would be to have real coffee trees in pots as the plants do look amazing at times.
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Time: 31st October 2007 11:33am

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Sandy says...
Yes, I agree, even for an outdoor entertaining area, at home.
Marvellous idea.
long as you get to taste a coffee from your own coffee plants, lol.

Time: 31st October 2007 1:58pm

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DellDGM says...
Wow! how inspiring - My coffee survived the sudden cold snap we got here just after I bought them and is now got new shoots. I do have to ask what is the plant in the black pot to the right of the coffee in picture two - it two looks healthy

Time: 31st October 2007 5:23pm

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Correy says...
Hi DellDGM, that is our brand new Black Sapote - Bernicker It is grafted and already has the flowers forming for next years fruit. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I have eaten some amazing black sapotes this year and can't wait to start picking my own.

Time: 31st October 2007 6:20pm

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DellDGM says...
It looks very healthy. I have managed to keep all of my 7 new trees this year except my panama berry - I was a bit shocked It seemed to come through the unusual cold snap and I thought I was actually going to loose the coffee but it came good but the panama suddenly dropped all its leaves and shrivelled up to a stick - oh well 6 out of seven (many of which were tropical) is better than I expected.

Time: 31st October 2007 6:52pm

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Sandy says...
my k7 coffee plant, which is in the ground, close 2 back patio, has new growth on it, and survived the cold snap here, in melbourne. The other not so good. Keeping fingers crossed, it picks up soon.

Time: 1st November 2007 3:35pm

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Nathan says...
Correy

What sort of soil did you put in the bags for your coffee trees and what do you feed them.

I am keen to get a couple and start them in post/bags until we move to the new place and I will plant them.

Thanks
Nathan

Time: 11th November 2007 10:21pm

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Correy says...
I use a potting mix because of the drainage and also feed them with dynamic lifter and a bit of citrus fertilizer.

I have the K7 variety (In the pictures) which I have had for the longest and also some of the catui Dwarf coffee varieties.

I made the mistake which caused one of the catuies to die which was I put sugar hay at the bottom of the pot expecting it to break down however instead it just acted as a sponge and stopped any drainage.

After I realised I re-potted with good potting mix and they were fine.

I got 3 of the K7 coffee plants at the same time and they are all in different sized pots. The one in the smaller sized pot has grown less however it has flowered and developed the beans much faster then the others.

So perhaps the smaller the pot the quicker you get the beans and the smaller the coffee tree.

If I was to plant them in the ground eventually like yourself I would still go with the Catui variety because it is not much fun getting a ladder to pick the coffee beans when you can get the dwarf coffee variety and walk out and pick them at head height. Because I am growing the K7 variety in a pot it will remain small.

Time: 12th November 2007 10:12am

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Nathan says...
thanks Correy, I think I need to go for a drive to daleys :-)

Time: 12th November 2007 8:51pm

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Correy says...
New Pictures of my coffee beans forming after 2.5 years in a pot.
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Time: 2nd December 2007 9:21am

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Melanie says...
Can you tell me what kind of position, light and moisture the coffee dwarf is suited to? I have just ordered 5 from your online shop.

Time: 20th December 2007 7:59am

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Correy says...
Dwarf Coffee Tree Position
A sunny site with protection from strong wind.
Light
They love the sun
Moisture and Soil Conditions
They like moisture however it is better if the soil is free draining. If you are planting them in the ground it would be ideal to do a drainage test.
Here is a video daleys made on it:
How to Plant a Tree
The soil is better if it is enriched with fertiliser and manure. Also it is advisable to cover with thick mulch to stop any weeds.

You will have to send us a few pictures Melanie when your dwarf coffee tree starts producing. My beans are the right size now I am just waiting for them to turn red.

Further Reading:
Tag: Coffee Tree
Grow your own Coffee
Coffee in Pots
Green Thumb Sunday Coffee Beans

Time: 20th December 2007 8:09am

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Kathryn Rowe says...
Hi Correy,

I am obsessed with the perfect cup of coffee. I would love to grow my own but live in the western suberbs of Melbourne.

Do you think it possible I might be able to grow and harvest my own coffee (given the occasional frost -1 in Aug and Sept)?

I don't have heaps of space and was very interested to hear you grow yours in pots.

Time: 16th January 2008 11:42am

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Correy says...
Hi Kathryn,

Daleys often sends coffee trees down to victoria to people like yourself willing to give it a go.

So if you are willing to baby them until they are established I think it is well worth the trouble.

Coffee trees hate wind most of all. So perhaps find a place where it is protected and you can perhaps radiate it some heat for those colder months.

Frosts are a worry but there are ways around that such as reflective aluminum.

Time: 16th January 2008 11:57am

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Adrianna Cooper says...
Hi Corey,
This is my Coffee tree I think it will need a prune soon but now I need to know how to use the beans to make coffee
Adrianna

Time: 16th January 2008 3:30pm

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Adrianna Cooper says...
it wouldnt take the photo ill try again

Time: 16th January 2008 3:34pm

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Correy says...
Adrianna, I would love to see your picture. Can you compress it before you upload it?

If you read what Sonya has to say on our blog here she goes into some great details on preparing the coffee from your coffee plant

Time: 16th January 2008 6:51pm

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Sandy says...
mmmmmmmm, fresh coffee! come on my coffee tree, hurry up and get some beans! It is doing well, and has new growth, it's in a sunny spot, and protected from wind. Mine is a Ky type.It is now about 3 feet high, growing in the ground.

Time: 17th January 2008 2:32pm

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Benno says...
Sandy, where did you get your coffee tree from? I'm in Melbourne and have been looking for one for ages!

Time: 30th January 2008 2:31pm

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Sandy says...
Hi Benno,
I got my coffee tree K7 variety, from Daley's Nursery, in Kyogle. One is still growing. not sure about the other. I haven't seen any coffee trees around in melbourne, either, Benno. Why not order one or 2 , from Daley's like I did? Give it a go.

Time: 31st January 2008 11:41am

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Correy says...
My coffee beans are starting to go red and I am so very proud. Now I know why they are called coffee cherries at this stage.

The Wiki on coffee processing says:

That the taste of the coffee is highly influenced by the time they are picked.

In some coffee plantations apparently they pick the green beans because they get paid by the basket load which accounts for the lower quality.

Has anyone got a spare hulling machine they don't need anymore :)
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Time: 19th March 2008 3:36pm

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Leona says...
Looks awesome!

Time: 19th March 2008 5:16pm

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Sandy says...
wow, lucky you! Hope mine grows some coffee beans soon. It looks like this at moment.not very big, but has new growth on it.
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Time: 26th March 2008 2:41pm

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Correy says...
We are picking the coffee now and drying them out.

Picture 2 is one of the Dwarf Coffee Trees with my niece. They grow quite well in suburban Brisbane don't you think.

My experience is that they are very very very sensitive to wind. The moment they are in the wind the leaves start looking sick and yellowy.

Picture 1 is a handful of the beans.

Picture 3 is a comparison of the just picked coffee beans compared to the coffee beans which have been in the sun for about 2 weeks.

I am keeping them in the sun for about 4 weeks before dehusking them and then giving them a good hot roasting on a wok.

Any hints on this process would be great.
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Time: 13th April 2008 9:08am

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Sandy says...
Oh, my coffe tree, is getting same problem with yellow leaves from wind too.
I will try to protect it, from the wind, as much as I can.
thanks. Yours looks great, Correy!

Hope mine gets going soon.


Time: 13th April 2008 1:24pm

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Correy says...
Here is a video on me making my first cup of coffee from my own beans.

A bit of a disaster but certainly a learning experience.



You might like to press pause for a while so it can load and then play without stopping all the time.

Time: 12th May 2008 2:24pm

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Diny says...
Here is my Arabica. It has been in the ground for 7 years and produces lots of beans. This year I have had 2 crops, I think it was because of the heavy rains we had during spring or maybe because I remembered to feed it!
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Time: 22nd May 2008 10:12pm

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Correy says...
Wow Diny that coffee tree is incredibly healthy. The flowers smell amazing too hey. Have you done any harvesting or roasting? If you watched my video you might notice that I am in need of a bit of help. Also you should have the red cherries on it about now do you have a picture with the beans on it?

Time: 23rd May 2008 7:49am

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trikus says...
Nice pic Mum . We had a meeting of the Rare Fruit Council and did not realize that we had to supply tea & coffee for all the people . Lucky there is always lots of tealeaves , and we had a jar of coffee berries . I spent the whole meeting quietly peeling of the parchment , and when it was all over fired up a small gas burner and roasted the coffee in a wok . It sure tasted good and impressed everyone .

Time: 23rd May 2008 6:11pm

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Diny says...
I just raced out to take this photo, it is pitch dark, don't know if I stood on any snakes or toads but these are the beans. They are ripening very slowly, I can pick just a few at the time. I dry them and peel the outer husks of while watching TV. I sell seedlings on eBay and one of my buyers told me he is using a popcorn popper to roast them.
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Time: 23rd May 2008 10:26pm

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Diny says...
Correy, I just watched your video, I process my beans a bit different, I eat the beans, mainly to keep my hands free while picking. That way they dry quicker and you only peel off the hard skin which you can do with your nails.The fine membrane rubs of easily and I winnow them like you do wheat. I throw them from one container in the other outside if there is a breeze.I don't have any fancy machine to make the coffee, just put some coffee in a pot, cover with boiling water and voila.

Time: 23rd May 2008 10:39pm

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Sandy says...
Oh my goodness, that video you made , Correy, of your coffee beans from go to whoa, was entertaining, as well as interesting and educational! I had a good laugh too. I hope my K1 coffee tree, gets lots of beans on it, it is protected from frost with a tall piece of brush t- tree behind it, and a foam esky on 1 side. it's the only 1 left, from ones bought from Daley's last year. So, hope it goes well over winter, here in melbourne's south east area. At least you looked like you had fun making the video, which wasn't too bad at all! keep it up, and good luck for next time.

Time: 1st June 2008 2:27pm

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Matt says...
Great info everyone. You've answered my questions regarding yellowing trees. I have 13 in two hedge rows and 7 are 18months old and approx 1m. One has beans and another has had several flowers. The plants are healthy but i am impatient for the beans and flowers to develop. From you chat above it looks like i need to be more patient but hopefully within a year it'll be coming up Milhouse in the coffee stakes. Thanks.

Time: 27th June 2008 9:01pm

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John says...
coming up Milhouse?

As in Bart's bestie?

Time: 30th June 2008 3:13pm

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Matt says...
Absolutely John !! Although i have had one recent death in our coffee tree family and i am finding it difficult to find sellers/growers in Brisbane. If anyone knows anyone that does please share. Cheers

Time: 1st July 2008 7:29pm

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Kate says...
Anyone have any idea what variety of coffee tree this would be or do they all look very similar? They were a present and I just put them in bigger pots. Also - Corey, compared to your trees, mine have a lot of leaves developing all the way up the stems. Should I be removing them or letting them bush out like they are?
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Time: 27th September 2008 9:51am

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Sandy says...
my coffee tree K7 type, has survived the melbourne winter! I put a small trellis of fern fencing behind it, tied to 2 stakes, for protection, it's growing in the ground, no berries yet, still waiting. Hope it grows a bit from now on, as it's still only about 2 feet tall.

Time: 1st October 2008 6:01pm

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Hamish says...
Hi all - just wondering how much coffee I can expect to get off a healthy plant. I generally have a couple of cups a day using my machine that grinds the beans itself. As I am aiming for self sufficiency I am trying to plan to have enough for myself and a bit to trade with. I am thinking 2 or 3 trees?

Time: 7th October 2008 11:44am

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Hamish says...
Does anyone know much about the variety Coffee Robusta?

Time: 7th October 2008 11:50am

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Kate says...
I have no idea as I only have 2 small trees at the moment, but there was a post on another forum on the daleys site, saying that 30 plants would supply two people with a morning coffee throughout the year.

Time: 8th October 2008 6:15pm

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Pauline says...
Do these trees fruit on old or new wood? Just wondering if they like sun and don't like wind how they would do trained as an espaillier against a wall. What do you think?

They do sound great fun.

Time: 19th October 2008 5:01pm

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Correy says...
I think they fruit on whatever wood is available? I couldn't tell much difference between this year and the previous in where the beans formed. Every inch of the tree produces fruit except the trunk which is good because you need a lot of beans for a double shot :)

They like sun but definitely not wind. If you can give them a wind break they will reward you for it.

Not sure about espaillier, you will have to try and then tell us how you go.

Time: 21st October 2008 9:03pm

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Pauline says...
It sounds like they could be OK in an espallier or a fan then. :)

Time: 21st October 2008 9:18pm

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Kate says...
Does anyone here have any advice/instructions on how to grow coffee plants from cuttings?

Time: 27th October 2008 6:57am

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Correy says...
It is incredibly difficult to get coffee cuttings to strike. Usually they are grown from seed.

Time: 29th October 2008 7:14am

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Matt says...
Greetings All,
For those in Brisbane i was able to find coffee trees being sold at the Ferny Grove Flea Market on Sundays. Currently our trees are going gangbusters. We've just had a major flowering and now we're waiting for the beans to form. I have no idea what type of trees we have but i can't wait for the first real crop to come along. I'll try and log some pics in the next week or so.

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Time: 14th November 2008 9:28pm

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Pauline says...
How do you find they grow in Adelaide? It just seems so windy here and everyone says they hate wind.

Time: 15th November 2008 5:58pm

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Steven says...
Hi

I have 4 coffea Arabica trees at home and they all are growing well. They suffered a bit of damager from lack of water while i was away for a couple of months but they seem to grow fine here. They like lots of water (simulating a dry season will help them fruit), fertile soil and naturally grow under the canopy of the african forest. so they prefer filtered light, especially when they are young.

Mine were all outside during the winter, in the shade up against the house and slightly shaded from wind. But i dont think they are as sensitive to the cold as you would think.As long as they are healthy


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Time: 18th November 2008 11:44am

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Mario says...
Hi
My coffee plant seems to be growing well, I keep it out of the wind and keep it well watered and fertised.

However, I have noticed that any new leave shoots shrivel up.

Does any one know if this is due to the plant getting too cold or too hot ?

I have pictures attached, one showing a good green new shoot and the others shriveled one


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Time: 22nd November 2008 9:04am

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

Are your coffee trees under filtered light?

They prefer to be under the shade of a tree or equivalent. Its probably the hot sun thats the problem.

Time: 22nd November 2008 3:57pm

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Mario says...
Hi Steve,

It used to be in a greenhouse during winter, to keep it warm, then I noticed about 1 mth ago that the new leaves had shriveled up. So I moved it under a shade house. It is still happening. In Adelaide it is dry and can get be very hot -although I thought that coffee trees like sun ?, not as much as I thought. I suspect that shade cloth is still not enough to protect it. So I have moved it under a tree and see how it goes.

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I have my coffee tree in a pot. In Adelaide where I am, the days are warm but it can get as low as 12 degrees, but no frost. Should I bring the pot in doors if the night time temperature is expected to be that low, or keep it outside. So far it has been tolerating the cold temperature ok, no signs of cold damage, however, will this affect its ability to grow and eventually fruit ?

Thanks

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Time: 22nd November 2008 4:41pm

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Pauline says...
I suppose that could also be a pest causing that damage. Lots of them do like nice young shoots, which sap sucking can then deform the young leaf and stop it growing.
I have no idea what pests like coffee plants though.


Time: 22nd November 2008 4:59pm

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

It could be a pest..but i think its probably just too much sun and lack of water it happened to many or my plants if they dont get enough water. especially if they are young and you get a hot day.

Coffee trees naturally grow in the undergrowth of forests in ethiopa and around that area. so they prefer filtered light

Put lots of mulch around the base of the tree (i use stones about the size of peas) give it a good dose of natural fertilizer and water it lots make sure the soil is always moist (i water my coffee trees every day during summer but its probably not necessary).

I left my trees outside all through winter and they were fine. I think they are much hardier than people think so i wouldnt worry too much about it.

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Time: 23rd November 2008 5:45pm

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Mario says...
Thanks for the advice Steven and Pauline,

I have moved my plant under shade and treated it with Pyrethum based insect spray, and kepted it well watered, it has been happy so far. The real test is when we have one of those hot Adelaide in the 30's days.

I fertilized with cow mature in the potting mix when I first potted the plant with slow release pellets on the surface. The pellets suppose to last 6mths.

However, looking at the web, I have been advised that coffee trees need to be well fertilized with a good liquid fertilizer once a month.

I am interested in what people are fertilizing with and how often?


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Time: 23rd November 2008 10:36pm

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James says...
Use a soluable 10-10-10 fertilizer for Arabica Coffee.. I have been growing mine for 7years, they dont like the winter & leaves can drop & new shoots shrivel, they dont like the extreme sun either.. they enjoy climates between 10 - 30 celcius. (Indoors is PERFECT in Adelaide!!!)
I have Arabica & Amarelo (Burbon Coffee - Yellow beans)
Where in Adelaide are you Mario? i am in the Far Northern Suburbs areas, close to Virginia.
Did you purchase your Coffee plant from Daleys?

Time: 25th November 2008 8:23am

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Anonymous says...
Hi James,

Nice to know someone in Adelaide has been successfully grown coffee-particularly where it can get frosty

I am at Largs North, 100 metres from the beach. So all I have to worry about is wind, cold and salt.

My plant has survived the warm temperature yesterday, and the new shoot is getting larger, so it probably was the heat that was shrivelling the shoot.

I got my plant frm Daleys

Thanks for your advice

Mario



Time: 25th November 2008 9:08am

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

Dont worry too much about the climate, melbourne is colder than winter and mine are fine. They have suffered a bit of damage as i was in Europe for 2 and a half months and got back at the start of this month but that was because of not enough water. Coffee trees seem to be much hardier than most people think.

I fertilize my trees with seasol and their brand of liquid fertilizer once a week (once every 2 weeks is probably enough but they respond well to it) and that works very well, my coffee trees were growing really well last year without much problems really. they were fine during the really hot days too, i just made sure to water them in the late afternoon.

As long as you keep them well watered, fertilized and keep them under filtered light im sure they will be fine. (once they get bigger they can be in full sun but they still prefer filtered).

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Time: 25th November 2008 4:30pm

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Mario says...
Steven,

Thanks for the advice.
Wow, your plant looks good.

I can't wait till my plant is ready to produce berries, and have my first cuppa !

Mario

Time: 25th November 2008 7:44pm

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

Haha i cant wait for my first homemade coffee either. But i think it will still be a couple of years for me.

Thanks, the tree did look really good last year. this year i looks a little sick as i was in Italy september and october but its picking up now.

Let me know how you coffea turns out

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Time: 26th November 2008 8:11am

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jack says...
read online (nestle) that a average coffee tree will only produce 500gm a year of coffee, ie 500gm after you roast and grind it. am thinking of growing a couple trees, but that is a very low return for the effort and years you put into it, but also am sceptical as nestle makes nescafe and maybe trying to deter people growing their own. does anyone have a idea of how much ready to use coffee one gets per tree per year?

Time: 26th November 2008 10:10am

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Mario says...
Hi Jack,

I have no doubt that growing your own coffee is probably not cost effective. However, I doing it for the pleasure of it.

I love making curries, so I decided to grow my own Curry tree. Three years later, it is 2 metres high, healthy, and I succesfully progated the seeds into new plants. The challenge of growing the tree, producing new plants with little or no advice, through trial and error has made it worth while. Not only that, it is a good looking tree and gives me fresh leaves for curries !

I will keep this forum informed on how my coffee turns out.

Mario


P.S. Apart from Abrica, K7 and Catui
does anyone know what else is available, (James mentioned Amarelo) how do they differ and where to get them ???

Time: 26th November 2008 9:19pm

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Sandy says...
HI Correy,
I reckon your video is fantastic! I will try to grow my K1 Coffee tree in a tub, rather than in the ground. it's not doing too well in the frost here in melbourne's wintery weather. Hope you get many more beans from your cofee trees!

Time: 4th December 2008 8:18pm

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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
I mentioned several weeks back that our trees are going gangbusters. They still are. Butwe've just had our second major flowering in weeks. Is this a usual occurence? Either way our trees are going to produce a massive crop with what we see presently.

Cheers

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Time: 5th December 2008 8:28pm

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Steven says...
Hi Jack

i would be very skeptical about what nestle says about coffee production. Ive read many times from coffee producers that coffee trees are very hard to grow and need just the perfect conditions to grow or they will die/wont fruit etc. They also all say its very difficult to process your own raw coffee.

My coffee trees are growing quite well and dont seem hard to grow. and many people have had great success with them producing fruit. I think they are just trying to deter people.

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Time: 7th December 2008 9:06pm

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Correy says...
Thanks Sandy, I tried it again but this time I burnt them. I am having fun learning though.

Matt: You can expect the coffee trees to flower many times. Can you take some pics for us and put them on here.

Steve... Yes growing them is prety easy it is roasting them that is hard. The fruit starts about 2 years after planting but it isn't until about 5 years that you get your big crops.

However if you have a coffee a day you do really need 5-15 coffee trees in the ground to give you a year round supply. You can store the beans dehusked and green and then just roast them as you need them.

Time: 11th December 2008 9:14am

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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
The pictures i've promised are now hopefully attached. Some of our main lower branches are beginning to shoot new limbs which i don't believe i should allow due to the weight done the track. If you can let me know on this one as i'm unsure i'd be appreciative. Happy coffee growing.

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Time: 13th December 2008 10:43pm

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Jantina says...
Beautiful healthy trees! thanks for the pics.

Time: 13th December 2008 11:02pm

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Steven says...
Hi Everyone

Those pictures look good Matt and your plants look healthy. i hope one day mine will look like that. At the moment they are all quite small.

Hi Correy I have never produced coffee before but i have fermented, processed etc things plenty of times before so im hoping roasting them is just one of those things that takes a little care and effort. I don't think it would be too difficult once you've done it a couple of times. You can buy coffee roasting machines over the internet for a few hundred dollars (i think ive seen them on ebay) for home use. But they arent cheap and i dont know how well they work.

Regards

Steven.

Time: 17th December 2008 9:48pm

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trikus says...
I am going to try mixing some of my green beans half'n'half with Harris Espresso and taste .. With all this hype about the benefits of green coffee.. will save roasting them .. Seems to be very hard to buy green beans away from the big smoke . Lucky it grows so well . I found a large 2m bush behind all the weeds on the other side of my back fence . All cleaned up , and fence pulled down , ready to harvest soon .

Time: 18th December 2008 1:56pm

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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
It took a few attempts to get the growing conditions just right. When planting i dug the holes larger and deeper than usual. I then added several heaped handfuls of river stones mixed with a good soil to help for future drainage. It also helps the root system establish as we have a heavy clay base. Around the trees i have red cyprus mulch (i think it's red cyprus) and they are in a sheltered position to protect from any wind. Now we water weekly and occasionally we add a liquid fertilizer. Over the weekend i'll load some pics of the beans as they are now as we are very excited with our first crop!!

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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
Here are a few pics of our little beauties as promised!!!

Cheerio

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Time: 21st December 2008 8:33pm

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Mario says...
I thought I would update on how my coffee plant is going since I last spoke about new shoots being shriveled up in my original post. Well sun damage was the cause of the problem.

Looking at the attached photo you can see how well it looks now particularly with regular fertilizing. Note, the two large leaves at the bottom of the photo (left one has a split) are the new shoots in the photo comparsion I did to the shrivelled one in the original post !, look at them now)


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Time: 28th December 2008 10:09am

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

Im glad your coffee trees are picking up. Mine suffered a bit when i went overseas but now they are looking quite good, when they are healthy they seem to grow quite vigorously. I can post some photos of mine if you'd like

Im glad you sorted out your problem.

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Time: 2nd January 2009 11:29pm

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Mario says...
Hi Steven,

Yes post some of your photos. Mine are growing vigorously, they are lapping up the water and fertiser


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Time: 10th January 2009 12:51am

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Mario says...
Hi Steven,

Yes post some of your photos. Mine are growing vigorously, they are lapping up the water and fertiser


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Time: 10th January 2009 12:51am

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Steven says...
Hi Mario

Sorry ive been busy lately and havent had time to check the forum. I will add some pictures within the next few days.

Mine are growing well now, the smaller 3 have almost doubled in size.

Steven

Time: 22nd January 2009 4:04pm

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Steven says...
Here are the photos of my coffee trees. The smaller ones have more than doubled in size this season.

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Time: 27th January 2009 8:16am

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Tran says...
Well done, Excellent work to get those growing fast.

Time: 27th January 2009 8:42am

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Matt says...
Hiya's,
Our coffee beans are just turning from a deep green to a lighter colour. It's vey exciting! The question i have is. The leaves on the branches of the trees are also turning yellow. Any ideas??? In SE Qld we've had decent rain lately and the trees are well mulched so any assistance you have is grealy appreciated.

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Time: 20th March 2009 8:50pm

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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you.

You'll probably find that as long as the trees are under filtered light then the problem will most likely be that they need a little fertilizer. put a couple of handfuls of dynamic lifter or something of the sort around the base of each tree and the problem will most likely go away. a little seasol every couple of weeks helps them alot too.

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Time: 1st April 2009 6:57pm

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Matt says...
Thanks for your assistance Steven


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Zach says...
Hello all, I recently purchased a coffee plant that is about a foot tall. I kept it inside for some time but recently moved it outside into a bigger pot. The plant was pretty healthy with only some leave tips browning. However a couple of days after I moved it outside I noticed that a lot of the leaves turned this orange brown color on top, but are still green underneath. Does anyone know what causes this?



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Steven says...
Hi Zach

Can you post a picture of your tree, that way it would be easier to see what the problem is.

its most likely that youve put the tree in full sun. Coffee trees naturally grow under the forest canopy of the African jungle so they are used to semi to full shade. Semi shade (such as the shade you get from under a tree) is best. Once the tree is bigger and more mature you can put it in full sun which apparently make it more productive, but it degrades the health of the tree.

Coffee trees like low light, lost of water and lots of natural fertilizer.

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Time: 18th April 2009 6:36pm

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Sandy says...
Thanks for the advice you have given, I will try mine in a different spot, and give more fertiliser, from now on.
mine is only about a foot tall, very slow growing, but has some new shoots after set back from the heat.

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Jordan says...
Hey do you know how much 1kg of coffee is cause im new at this and i just want to know

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trikus says...
Roasted coffee beans vary in price from $20 to nearly $100 per kg depending on origin and quality . Jamaican Blue Mountain or a good Columbian can cost much more . But the stuf you grow at home can save you a fortune . Here a dwarf bush loaded with beans growing in full sun next to a turmeric clump getting ready to go dormant .
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Correy says...
Wow Trikus that is a great crop of coffee on such a small tree.

If you want I would love for you to do a youtube video on how you dry out, de-husk and finally roast your home grown coffee beans. Just past the youtube clip in here.

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Ken says...
I have a Kentucky coffee tree 10 yrs old, it has not grown any coffee beans,was woundeing if I am having some kind of bad luck, or that the tree needs something. The tree is growing good, leafing good, after 10 yrs, nothing. Was wounering if maybe you could help me. thank you ..Ken.

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Bernie says...
I have 3 K7 plants that are about 3 years old. I am in the middle of my first harvest and was wondering if there is an easy way to de-husk the beans. I fermented the beans in water and dried them but the most time consuming part is the husking. Does anyone have any suggestions or hints to make the de-husking easier?

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Matt says...
Hi Bernie,
I managed to teach my 2yr old to pick only the 'red' berries from our trees but i couldn't get her to de-husk. Terrible job but i guess if you want your own coffee then it's a small price to pay. Cheers Matt



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Correy says...
Matt: I saw your coffee pictures above. That is some fantatic looking coffee trees way better then mine.

Bernie: Yeah the job does suck.

There are commercial machines they use to do this job I believe.

Time: 11th July 2009 4:36pm

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Matt says...
I hope to have some new pics in the coming weeks of both out rows of trees. Hopefully the August winds won't burn the leaves (yellowing) so i'm starting early this year with mulch and liquid fert. Be sure to keep your trees out of the wind!!

Time: 27th July 2009 8:00pm

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amanda says...
Has anyone tried Stress-guard for wind-burn? I have never used it myself and don't know what it's made of...but i was wondering if there may be some use in it/something similar, for the bad winds and sensitive plants?

Matt - what's your August wind? (ie: hot/cold, north/south/east/west?)

Time: 29th July 2009 6:38pm

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Matt says...
Hi Amanda,
In Brisbane we get August winds from the west. They're cool and carry a fair amount of dust. I haven't heard of Stress Guard.

Cheers

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Time: 29th July 2009 8:46pm

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amanda says...
Hi Matt n all.. sorry - it's called DroughtShield - also claims to help protect against light frosts.
I looked up the safety data sheet and it checks out fine so I got some to try. I am going to use it on my more sensitive plants when the Beasterly (hot, hot wind) arrives - it claims to last up to 90 days...

I am going to try a home-made one using aloe vera juice - who knows - it may just work!? :)

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Sandy says...
Hi everyone,
I have been ill last 2 weeks with the flue! A lot down this way. I have no fruit on my trees , at all, my Lime tree, which is a Tahitian Lime, planted in my front garden, in lawn, gets small limes, then they seem to drop off.
I have given it citrus food, at the right time, pruned off dead branches etc, but no fruit.
it had about 4 the first time, after 2 years, then nothing! It faces the east, gets full sun.
Any one got any suggestions?


Time: 8th August 2009 5:39pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Sandy,

I hope you get better soon. May be your tree need to be watered more offten.
Good luck.

Time: 8th August 2009 6:42pm

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culebra says...
Hi Sandy,

My Tahitian lime also failed to thrive here. It is coming back Ok now after some TLC.

have heard that Tahitian lime are more suited to warmer climates so that could be one factor. my friend grows Tahitian & kaffir limes very well in ground in melb of which i am jealous. he has found the perfect location, a warmer microclimate-- in front of a brick wall facing north and shielded from the wind.

I would have to agree with JUJUBE.. try to keep the water up to it in the upcoming warmer months (start now). i notice you mention that it is located in a lawn, i'd say you should clear any grass and weeds from the vicinity of the trunk to distance of at least 1m, preferably more. feed it and prune off any gall from the branches if any present, just saying i have found this particular one to be very suceptible to this pest. also check for scale and other pests.

good luck and get well soon.


Time: 8th August 2009 9:10pm

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rus says...
Anyone tried growing coffee in perth? I am guessing the wind would be an issue.

Time: 10th August 2009 3:16pm

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culebra says...
I had never even thought of growing Coffee in Melbourne.

Sounds like an interesting endeavour. I'll partake if i find a tree for sale. i believe i recall seeing a few plants in gardenworld but that was a fair while ago. anyone know any local sources?

Steven i am very impressed by your coffee plants. They are soo incredibly vibrant green. TFS


Time: 11th August 2009 6:51pm

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Steven says...
Hi Culebra how are you

Thanks. they are a lovely tree, i water mine frequently during the summer and fertilize often and they grow very well.

I bought one from Beasley's Nursery on old warrandyte road a couple of years ago and the rest on daleys. I found daleys was cheaper.

Hopefully mine flower soon

Regards

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Time: 14th August 2009 6:24pm

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Sandy says...
Hi calebra and jujube,
I'll try weeding , and fertilising, as well as watering, using rain water or grey.
like to grow a bit more citrus, but not sure where to plant, as space is limited. I have a brick wall in backyard, facing south, but gets a LOT of summer heat!
Might try dwarf citrus maybe?

Time: 15th August 2009 8:28pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Sandy,

Citrus trees have very shallow root systems so a dwaff citrus should be nice.
Good luck.

Time: 15th August 2009 8:38pm

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Steven says...
Hi Sandy, Citrus trees are very easy to grow and you can grow then quite easily from a cutting, they do like a bit of fertilizer every now and then and arent too bad with water, but do like some during the hot weather. Plant whatever variety and type you would prefer. They are prone to gall wasp which causes swelling of the branches, which is good to remove and throw away but i dont think is too destructive on a well established tree.

Citrus trees will grow easily in melbournes conditions as long as they get a few hours of sun a day at least.

The spot your talking about which gets alot of summer heat would be great for a blood orange as they like hot dry summers to develop their beautiful, flavour and red colour.

Regards

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Time: 20th August 2009 6:28pm

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amanda says...
Here is a good link for u Sandy..

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/citrus/management/nutrition/nutrition

Time: 20th August 2009 9:26pm

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Steven says...
Hi everyone

Does anyone know what would cause a seemingly healthy looking coffee tree to suddenly droop all its leaves and start dying.

I have 4 coffee trees which up until about a month ago all looked quite healthy and are coping very well during winter suddenly one has started to droop its leaves and begin to turn brown for no apparent reason, the new growth at the tips of the branches has also started to die back. All the other coffee trees look quite healthy and nothing i do seems to help pick the sick one up.

Thanks

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Time: 24th August 2009 5:09pm

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trikus says...
Steven , your coffee might have got a bit of cold burn , was it more exposed than others ? One easy way to dehusk , is after beans have dried well , just run them through a blender , they beans are so hard the husks are cut of easily . Just winnow outside on a windy day , or put a pedestal fan in place to blow husks away .

Time: 24th August 2009 6:40pm

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amanda says...
Hi Steven...I'd be tempted to gently dig down to the roots of that tree and make sure they are white n healthy (not brown n dead looking), that it's not waterlogged, collar rot, bugs, fungi etc. It may be worth treating for a root rot anyway - nothing to loose except the tree if u don't?

I have 20 groundcover plants called Grevillia criminthifolia..all treated the same and awhile ago 2 died for no reason that I can fathom...sometimes gardening is like that!??

It might help to post a photo of the sick one (and one of the healthy ones) if u can..

Time: 24th August 2009 10:17pm

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Steven says...
Hi Amanda, sorry for the later reply, ive taken a few photo's of the coffee trees, there is one to the left behind one of the coffee trees which is a bit hard to see, but as you can see the rest are quite healthy and havent suffered at all (other than a few marks on the tips of their leaves) from winter but the sick one has lost all its leaves and i dont know why, im hoping it will grow back soon.

Thanks

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Time: 5th September 2009 6:02pm

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amanda says...
Hi Steven - yes it's a sick puppy allright :( all I can suggest is the stuff above - might be worth taking it out of the plastic bag and having a good look (the repot after) - you should be able to see the root system easily then. It can't be the cold as the others are fine. None of your mates might have taken a leak on it at your last wild party perhaps!??? :))))


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Bernie says...
Steven,

I originally had 5 coffee trees and 2 died. I couldn't work out what had happened as three of the trees were perfectly healthy. I had a dig around the root system of the dead tree and there were about 50 'curl grubs' around the base so I attributed the death of the tree to them. I did a bit of research that suggested that the grubs will eat tree roots along with composting vegetable matter. I hope you work out a solution to your problem.

Good luck.

Bernie

Time: 6th September 2009 10:06am

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Steven says...
Hi everyone.

Thanks for your help, i might treat it with a root rot/pesticide and hopefully it picks up, it hasnt gotten better or worse in the past couple of weeks so that is kind of a good sign, ill have a look around at the roots and hopefully ill find the problem.

Thanks for your help

Steven

Time: 7th September 2009 6:43pm

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russ says...
Hey everyone. Does anyone know the ideal soil pH level for coffee?

Time: 17th November 2009 2:38pm

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Speedy says...
pH 5.5-6.0 is optimum for Coffee.
It will tolerate levels outside this range, but that's prefered

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russ says...
Thanks speedy, slightly acid side of neutral was exactly what i wanted to hear.

Time: 18th November 2009 5:32pm

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Birdy says...
Just bought four little arabica coffee trees and I'm trying to work out where to plant them. I could keep them in our sunroom/ greenhouse, or I'm contemplating planting them next to the house. We have a fabulous strip there which gets full sun, and a lot of reflected warmth from the house bricks during the winter. I was concerned about the arabica's root systems though. I've heard they can be quite large and I think I'll keep them in pots if they are going to cause a problem with the house. Does anyone have any suggestions / reccomendations?

Cheers,

Birdy.

Time: 20th November 2009 7:18pm

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M Nash says...
I back onto rainforest where probably K7 but definatly arabica type plants grow in weed proportions.
They grow in understory to mid story (20 feet). Because they are shade grown, The caffeine content is sky high. So much so that I have to blend it down with various bought green beans just to get a coffee with a strong kick and not a coffee with a hart attack.
They grow like crazy in dappled light and rainforest type floor soil.
Hope that might help.


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Birdy says...
Hi Nash,
Thanks for your response! Still a bit confused, mainly because of the conflicting recommendations for planting coffee (sun vs shade etc). We have 3 acres of mostly bush land but I was concerned about trying them closer to the bush because of the possibility of them "going feral" so to speak in the adjacent national park- your experience seems to suggest this is likely :)

I've always wanted to try growing my own coffee trees so I hope I can figure it out.


Time: 21st November 2009 11:01am

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Correy says...
Birdy, a semi-shaded position would be fine but the most important thing is protection from the wind and also if you get frost that would be hard one them.

I am not sure but I doubt that coffee would be a weed in the blue mountains but up where nash is from in terranora where the conditions are more perfect they can be a problem.

Also Nash is right the ones I roasted that I grew was the strongest cup I have had. All famous coffees mix beans rather then just using the one bean from the one tree as each bean has a strength and weakness. It is the blend that makes it great.

Time: 21st November 2009 11:41am

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Steven says...
Hi Birdy

I agree with everyone else too, coffee originate in ethiotpia and the surrounding areas in the mountains where they grow under the canopy which is why filtered light is good for them. If you plant them in full full you will quickly notice that the leaves will start to burn. I have my coffee trees under and old swing with some shade cloth over it and even still they get some afternoon sun and the leaves on the west side of the plants are a bit burnt so im going to move them to their old positions soon.

The reason why you have been told to put them in full sun is probably because many coffee farms grow their trees in full sun....once they grow big enough they can be grown in full sun but it puts the trees under stress and initially increases their yield span but reduced their life span. Most farms these days care more about quantity rather than quality which is sad.

Coffee trees are tropical trees so there would not be a problem with them becoming weeds in your area. In fact you should give them some sort of protection during winter, especially when they are small.

regards

Steven

Time: 24th November 2009 6:48pm

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Matt says...
Hi Everyone,
Haven't been in here for awhile but currently our trees don't look to good. They are yellowing quite extensively. They've just finished a bumper crop and have flowered so i suspect that has taken a bit out of the trees. I am probably wrong though! I water them quite a bit as Brisbane at the moment is very hot and they are mulched very well. I have also just recently given them a dose of complete fertilizer to try and give them a kick start. They are in full sun and are bordering 2m but in general they do well where they are. Any suggestions for our yellowing issues?? I'll try to add pics over the weekend.

Matt

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Matt says...
PS. The pic attached is one i loaded ages ago so you can see how green they were!!

Time: 11th December 2009 10:05pm

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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you.

If the leaves a yellowing it can be an indication of an iron or magnesium deficiency, epsom salts will help with the Mg problem and im sure you can buy iron ore from nurseries or hardware stores sell it to stain concrete, one brand is called oxide.

However the fact that it is in full sun might be the cause of the problem. You say its been very hot and sunny lately and the tree you believe may have been weakened from the crop its produced.

Coffee tree need to be grown under filtered light, they naturally grow under the canopy of the ethiopean jungle. If they are healthy and strong they can grow in full sun . but its not good for them. I would say thats the problem. Its been quite hot and sunny and the trees are stressed because of it. Give them shade and the should jump back up.

Regards

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Time: 12th December 2009 6:24pm

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Matt says...
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advice. I'll have a look for some epsom salts in the next few days and give them a hit. Unfortunately i can not offer the trees any shade as the position the stand is in is in full sun. That said the trees have been there since they were 20cm in height and this is the first time they have yellowed like this.

If anyone has any other ideas i'm open to further suggestions.

Cheers

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Time: 12th December 2009 10:29pm

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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you

Yeah try that and give them a good layer of mulch and compost or organic fertilizer and hopefully that will help.

Coffee trees can grow in full sun but it is not good for them and it will stress the trees, making them more prone to problems such as what your having now or anything really. i would recommend even planting some fast growing trees around them so that they will provide them with shade in the near future.

Regards

Steven

PS. i think my coffee trees are starting to flower :)

Time: 18th December 2009 7:20pm

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Steven says...
My coffee trees flowers have started to open!! the trees are full of flowers but only a few have opened at the moment. It may not have enough time to produce good fruit but still its a good sign. The mango trees flowers set and fruit started to develop but a few day ago it dropped them. But no big deal, even stone fruits do that when they are young. I was surprised it even flowered as its still a small and young tree, so the fact that it flowered is a good sign! Steven

Time: 17th January 2010 9:33pm

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amanda says...
Hey Steven - well done. Did u manage to rescue that sick one from late last year? Did you find out what was wrong with it?

Time: 17th January 2010 11:10pm

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Bojan says...
Hi,

i have some similar problems with my coffee tree.
described here: http://www.survivalistboards.com/showpost.php?p=1214197&postcount=19

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Bojan

Time: 19th January 2010 1:33am

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Steven says...
Hi Amanda, thanks alot. No i didnt end up figuring out what was wrong with that one, i was hoping it would pick up as the trunk was still green for a while but it died a few months ago....ohh well, i think something poisoned it because it happened so quickly. The others look good the flowers have fallen off now and small berries are just starting to develop, hopefully it goes into full bloom, but might not because its developing very slowly.

Bojan the problem with the coffee tree on that site seems to be to be either a magnesium or iron deficiency (the leaves are yellow but the veins are still green). Personally i would prefer fertilizing it with chicken pellets or something similar, synthetic fertilizers kill bacteria in the soil and can burn the trees roots and leaves. also water it every two weeks with seasol, that always helps to pick them up.

In terms of the deficiency, epsom salts (which is magnesium sulphate) can be found at any supermarket and is great for a magnesium deficiency, and iron you should be able to get iron oxide from a nursery, or even the local hardware store sells it as a product called oxide which is used to stain concrete red. either sprinkle a little over the soil or dissolve them in a bucket and water the plant with it (dont know what happens if you overdose the tree with it though so dont over do it). just a tablespoon or two of each in 5 liters of water should be enough, do it once a week and see how it goes

Regards

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Bob Weis says...
Does anybody have experience in growing coffee outdoors in Southern Victoria? We started six Arabica in wine barrels and two have now died. Leaves turned yellow and the trees shrivelled. Of the other four three look healthy. They are more shaded from the sun and wind. Perhaps a clue?

Any info would be much appreciated

Bob

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Grant says...
Hi Bob, That's it. Avoid direct hot sun, avoid strong wind, especially hot or seaside wind. Protect from frost and give them plenty of water when it's hot

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Muzza says...
My plants are going great and have produced the first lot of berries. I am waiting for them to turn red.

I have some questions, especially for those who have experienced growing coffee in Adelaide.

1. My plants have gone through two winters without any problems. However, this is the first winter with berries. Will the cold effect the growth of the berries, either cause them to drop off, slow growth or prevent further budding altogether ? Should I move them into a greenhouse ? Note, there is no frost where I am.
2. My plants are in pots, so I have some control over their environment and 1.5 metres high. How can I limit their size , I suppose small pots or prunning ?
3. How may harvests do coffee plants produce ?

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Steven says...
Hi Bob how are you. I would say your problem with the coffee trees is the sun, they prefer filtered light rather than full sun. and yes try to avoid strong winds etc.

Have you just got your coffee trees? after a year or so they will climatise and you will notice they will become much more cold hardy. i keep mine outside and the only protection they have over winter is that fact that they are close to the house under an open pergola and they are always fine. feed them lots and make sure soil is moist and they will grow very well.

Im in the same situation you are in muzza, all three of my coffee trees have berries on them now. one is looking great the other two are still good. personally i think that as long as you dont get frost on them i doubt they will die off if they are already developing as long as the trees arent under alot of stress or are in an area with alot of frost.
what im going to do is put the largest coffee tree i have inside in a nice pot (more for ornamental reasons) and see how the other two go outside.

Coffee trees can have two harvests per year, however to do that you have to simulate two separate dry seasons which will stress the tree into fruiting. but i dont think this is possible in our corner of the world as the berries will take too long to develop for you to be able to have two crops a year.

Regards

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Sandy says...
Hi Bob, I am in the south east of Melbourne, and Have just the 1 coffeeplant, in the lawn, it is getting new growth, but no coffee flowers or beans at all, and is over 2 years old.
I have kept it sheltered during winter, as the frost tends to get things down here, lol, not funny.
I look through my local flower power centre, over the road, to see what's in, and often get advice on plants I have. Never really seen any coffee plants though. Would like to get my owncoffee beans, one day!

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Bob says...
thanks guys, I will shade them from wind and sun

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Rhys says...
Hi Guys,
I'm after some advice for re-potting my coffee plant. I am hoping to put it back in the same pot, as i don't want it to get too big and heavy (let me know if i am kidding myself and do need a bigger pot!). It is an arabica plant which i have had for 5 years or so, and was neglected for the first 3-4, but has really come good in the last year or so. It has probably been in its current pot for about 2 years. These are some of the things i'm wondering about:

1. Should i prune the plant prior to re-potting, and if so, how much?
2. Is there anything i should feed it or give it before hand?
3. Should i prune the roots at all, and if so, how exactly do you do this?
4. Is there any specific potting mix i should use, or will a good quality "standard" type suffice?

Looks like a lot of keen coffee growers out there, and a wealth of info on this forum. I hope to get some flowers/beans of my own after rejuvenating the potting mix a bit, so i will appreciate any advice you can give.
Thanks
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Steven says...
Hi Rhys how are you.

not sure about pruning the roots but i know you can prune a coffee tree without much trouble. i found a website which may help you.

http://www.thegardenhelper.com/coffee.html

Personally i dont really like potting mix i find even the good quality ones arent much more than composting pine bark. I usually use top soil and mix in potting mix to make the soil drain better. a ratio of 5 parts top soil 3 parts potting mix and 2 parts aged compost it think would work well for you.

Seasol if a good product that will help the tree after its been repotted, there if often too much nitrogen in fertilizers and the trees dont like that when under stress so seasol works great and promoting new growth.

And sandy, i also read on the website above that the trees take up to six years to produce fruit so that may be why it hasnt fruited yet.

Time: 10th May 2010 5:10pm

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Steven says...
Hey everyone

Does anyone know where to find cacao seedlings in melbourne. i tried growing some from seeds a couple of years ago but they didnt do very well and died last winter. Ive kind of given up growing tropical trees from seed i think its just too cold here when they start off. maybe ill try again when i build a greenhouse.

But it would be great to get a couple of cacao trees.

Thanks

Steven

Time: 10th May 2010 5:16pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Stephen,
No wonder you have no success growing cacao. They only grow on or near the equator. Having said that, I have ten Cacao trees around one year old now in my hothouse. Ive been told to keep the temp above 7 deg min and that limit is getting very close now that winter is approaching. Looks like Ill be firing up the slow combustion stove in the hothouse very soon.
To answer your question, keep an eye out on ebay, thats where I got mine.

Time: 10th May 2010 6:38pm

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Steven says...
John that sounds like negative talk to me!!! :)

So far ive had quite good success growing bananas, coffee, mango, pineapple and cinnamon in melbourne without a hot house.

With that said however i have had very little success growing tropical trees from seeds or cuttings (besides the pinapples which i got from the tops of bought pineapples) and i have read that some people have had success growing them in environments where the temperature falls below 7C. i think the trick is (with all tropical trees) to either grow them in a hot house from seeds first or buy them already relatively mature and buy them in say october. that way they are much more able to climatise

With that said however i know cacao are a bit more temperamental than other tropical trees.

How big are your cacao trees, if you are willing i would love to trade/buy some off you once i have built my greenhouse (so far its 4 posts! )

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Time: 18th May 2010 12:26pm

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Matt says...
Hiya's,
In a spot of bother with our coffee trees. Unsure whether i'm loving them to death at the moment as it appears i've burnt the tips. Maybe too much fertilizer or the fact they have been in the full sun over summer. I have beautiful green leaves at the bottom and the top of the trees but the middle/body the leaves have dropped and the tips are black???? They are presented covered in berries also. I'll try and add pics over the weekend but if anyone has had similiar issues please let me know. Where in Brisbane.

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Time: 20th May 2010 8:03pm

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Rhys says...
My coffee tree pretty much always has some leaves that are a bit brown/black/yellow/dropping. I do find it happens more after hot sunny weather though, and often with the black bit you described. It does look a bit unsightly but i don't know that it adversely affects the tree at all, as it keeps sending out a lot of new growth. I haven't had any berries on mine, so not sure how it might affect fruiting/yield/taste etc?

Time: 20th May 2010 8:30pm

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Steven says...
Hi Matt how are you, you problem will most likely be the fact that its been in full sun through summer. Coffee trees prefer filtered light as they naturally grow underneath the forest canopy. they can tolerate full sun but it puts them under stress (as yours has shown).

Put it where it gets filtered light and give it some seasol.

I hope this helps.

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Time: 21st May 2010 6:28pm

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M Nash says...
Try to plant them under the canopy of a large tree in a dark but warm spot.
Heavy rotted leaf mulch is a must.
I will take some pics of them growing wild in the northern Rivers for coffee growers to see just what they like.

Time: 21st May 2010 11:41pm

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Matt says...
Hiya's,
The first pics are our main stand of trees. Damaged middle and green tops. They are on the second yield at present and the damage is greater this year than last. But the second set are our smaller stand and i guess they are more protected and have just started to bear fruit. Both rows are heavily mulched with red cyprus and get more than enough water (even in the dryest times in Brisbane). Anyway it's easier to see with pics so i have fish based fert and a complete all round slow release. I'll keep going with this but if anyone has any other advice i'm more than happy to discuss.

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Time: 23rd May 2010 9:13pm

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Matt says...
5hit !!!! my photo's didn't load.

i'll try again

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Time: 23rd May 2010 9:21pm

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Matt says...
try this

Time: 23rd May 2010 9:24pm

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Matt says...
i'll try tomorrow

Time: 23rd May 2010 9:25pm

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Matt says...
i'm trying again!!

Time: 24th May 2010 8:48pm

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Matt says...
i've tried to log pics but i keep getting errors from Daley's end. Don't know???

Time: 24th May 2010 8:51pm

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Steven says...
Yeah i think theres someone wrong with their website. i havent been able to upload pictures for about a week. i keep getting a size error....even with just one pic.

Time: 25th May 2010 10:40am

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Matt says...
Hiya's,
I'll give the photos another go.
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Time: 28th May 2010 8:59pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Stephen,
Sorry, I missed your post re cacao tree. Mate, I could be tempted to post you one, I know I have too many. What do you have to swap?

Sorry being off topic everyone. But there's no other way of replying to Stephen.

Time: 1st June 2010 6:11pm

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Steven says...
Hi john how are you

My email address is smarasea@hotmail.com

if you could email me in regards to the cacao trees it would be great.

Thanks alot

Steven

Time: 3rd June 2010 10:59pm

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Matt says...
Hiya's,
I've been picking my berries and i've noticed i have a small grub attacking some clumps of berries. They appear to be sucking the life out of the berries and drying them out and turning them black. It is very indiscriminate in which clumps of berries it targets. First time for this grub so if anyone has any advice???

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Steven says...
Hey matt, i think ive got the same problem with my coffee berries. i put the tree inside now and it was covered in aphids so i hosed it down like mad and thats seemed to pretty much stop them but alot of the smaller berries are turning black drying up and falling off, im thinking maybe its the trees way of thinning out the fruit as its a young tree and only keeping the best fruit on the tree but i dont know what it is either.

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Time: 9th June 2010 12:55pm

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huhu says...
hello,i like coffee

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Russ says...
I don't, but I grow it anyway!

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Muzza says...
Hi Everyboby,
My coffee plants are going well with the single digit temperatures we are having in Adelaide. However, I have a question.

Has anyones coffee berries actally ripened yet ? My berries are getting bigger, but no change in colour yet.
Harvest is suppose to be May-Aug, although I expect this for optimum growing conditions.



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Grant says...
Hi Muzza, I'm in Whyalla and my berries ripen each year no problem. Give them a few more weeks as they slow when it's cold. BTW keep them in a shady spot in summer.


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Sandy says...
My one lonely coffee tree, is looking a bit worse for wear. It's just not growing at all, even though it's had new leaves! it's in clay soil, with topsoil, and I've tried adding fertilisers of different types, also grew it in a pot first, now it just looks very sad, I think I will give up trying to get it going. It faces a westerly sun. it's height is around 18 inches tall.

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Steven says...
Dont worry. its a tropical tree so it wont do much in winter. mine always look sad when winter comes around. once the weather gets warmer it will pick up. just remember to keep in under filtered light.

If it really looks bad bring it inside. but it should be fine outside.

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Time: 17th August 2010 6:15pm

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Steven says...
Hey everyone

The other day if came across by accident information on daleys about roasting coffee in a popcorn maker. i tried it yesterday and it actually worked quite well so i thought i would post the link on this forum:

http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides/popperroasting

Time: 14th September 2010 2:55pm

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Wayne says...
Well done Steven, that is very handy to know

Time: 14th September 2010 6:28pm

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Steven says...
No problem! You can buy cheap popcorn makers at Woolworths for about $20 (thats what i tried it on) however i think it gets too hot in there and the beans cook way too fast so i might get a better one from the good guys or something. I was surprised with how well it worked actually.


Now when my coffee berries ripen i have a good way of roasting them :)

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Evo says...
yep. Good old popcorn maker is the go for roasting green beans. I'm coming up to around 300 roasts. The trick is to wait till you hear the 'second crack' before turning the machine off. Good information here as well www.coffeesnobs.com.au


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Muzza says...
Hi Everybody...
My coffee plants are doing well, however they seem to be taking forever to ripen, but the berries are large.

Anyway, have a few questions.

1. My trees are getting large, about 1.5 metres tall and transfered them to larger pots. Will I eventually have to plant them in the ground ?

2. I don't have a lot of berries on my trees, is this normal for the first crop (after 3 yrs) ?



Time: 29th September 2010 9:30pm

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Steven says...
Hi muzza how are you.

Mine is the same. i have it inside at the moment it looks tall healthy and the berries are large and full but they are taking ages to ripen.

im sure they will eventually ripen, its probably got alot to do with the number of hours of daylight they get and even though its inside its still cooler on average than the tropics.

Most trees wont fruit to their full potential during their first couple of seasons.

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Time: 30th September 2010 11:33am

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Steven says...
Hey everyone.

The berries on the coffee tree i put inside are finally ripening! the trees outside did ok, they look a little sickly and lost most of their berries, some ripened but didnt have developed seeds. But they will pick up.

I want to plant some seeds just to watch them grow and maybe give them to some friends/family and i wanted to ask, how long does it take for fresh berries to germinate. Ive picked one so far, i left it out for a day to dry them planted it so i would presume its still pretty vibrant?

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Muzza says...
Hi Steven
Mine have finally gone red too.
Although unlike yours I have only 25 berries between 4 plants !
How on earth did you get so many berries for first harvest ?
Hopefully, I will get a lot more next time.

Now, for growing coffee plants from seeds try these links
http://www.coffeeresearch.org/coffee/homegrowing.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_4855898_grow-coffee-beans.html

Hope it helps

Time: 4th November 2010 8:12am

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Steven says...
Hey Muzza how are you.

Thanks for the info!! haha i dont know maybe its just luck. This particular coffee tree has been inside since probably April though so maybe thats why, the others didnt really do much. Its funny though, i just got back from a trip to Port Douglas and this coffee tree was healthier than any i saw up there. I think its a good sign that that can grow well down in Melbourne.

Ive planted about 10 seeds now for fun and im going to make coffee out of the rest. ill let you know how it goes.

Did you pick your berries yet?

Time: 8th November 2010 11:41pm

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Muzza says...
Hi Steven,
Yes I have picked them. I have pulped them, gone through fermentation and now drying them in the sun. Down our way there is lots of sun so it shouldn't take long.

Will send pictures of the process when I have finally roasted them.

By the way a good link on how to process the beans is at the Queensland Government site, www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5471.html

Cheers

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Steven says...
Hey Muzza how are you.

I just picked half the berries off the tree about two days ago. they are pulped but still fermenting at the moment its taking a little longer that i thought let me know how your coffee goes!!

Thanks for the link ill check it out

Time: 15th November 2010 12:40pm

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M Nash says...
You dont have to ferment them too much.
You can also let them get a little mouldy when laying the piped beans out to dry.
Get yourself a cheap bladed grinder and put a small handful of dried beans in and zap it and check.
The husk should come away and leave just the green bean (They are very tough),
More stuff (Chaff) comes away in the roasting process.
The trick with a popcorn maker is to make a chimney extension out of a food can and to move the roasting beans around to cool a bit by hand (Pick it up and swish it a bit) Need to do that constantly to make the second crack happen out to 12+ minutes instead of 5 minutes. The Brevel is the one to get.
Ive seen cafe's use them all day.


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Steven says...
ahh ok. i put them on a tea towel to dry now and im mixing them a few times a day. i cant really see anything on them not, but there probably is still a casing around them.

yeah ive read about putting them in a grinder to break the coatings off of them. wont that smash the living daylights out of the beans though?

I bought a cheap popcorn maker from safeway and i think it gets too hot too quickly, it only takes about 4-5mins to crack the beans twice. maybe when i get a larger yield ill invest in something better.

Time: 16th November 2010 9:57pm

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M Nash says...
Dry them in the sun, When they are ready, You will not be able to make an indent with your teeth into a green been.
So they need to be really dry.
They stay together under the blender, but just short shots and small handfuls.
I don't bother with fermenting purposely, They ferment because I forgot them an left a bucket full of berries for a few days till I get around to the arduous task of piping thousands of them. bloody things are weeds around my way. But they wont grow away from under the canopy. That's a heads up on what they like.
The coffee plantations I see, The plants are squat and sickly looking.
Mine are 20 ft tall and straggly but very green and masses on berries in large clusters rather then spread out like on a plantation tree.

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Steven says...
Ok ill put them in the sun now.

It was funny actually, a couple of weeks ago i was in port douglas and i could not find a coffee tree around there that looked as healthy as mine even the one that were outside all winter looked better. But the ones in QLD i saw were all in full sun..

You must get alot of free coffee then!!

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Muzza says...
Hi guys,
Well I finally got my first cup of coffee, well just enough beans from the first crop.
I included some photos showing various stages, the squeezing out of the beans (pic 4), fermenting (pic6), drying (pic 5), roasting(pic 3) and finally a brew. It tasted good. Unfortunately, my beans did not all ripen at the same time from each tree. So I would process them as they ripened until I had enough to roast. I used an Heathcare IROAST2 to roast the beans, using a medium to dark temperature profile, and it works like a treat. Nothing like freshly roasted coffee.

So heres to next years crop, may it be plentiful.

In the meantime, I will buy green beans, and roast them myself.

Cheers
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Pauline says...
Great pictures, thanks for sharing. :)

Time: 28th November 2010 1:39pm

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Steven says...
Good to hear it turned out well. mine are almost dried. ill let you know how it goes!

Time: 30th November 2010 12:00am

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Matt says...
Merry Christmas !!!!! Brisbane's wet weather for the past few months has been a godsend for our trees. They have fully recovered from - 1. being attacked by sum crazy bug that turned the beans black. 2. The scorching heat that we get - yes they are in full sun when they shouldn't be. 3 being hacked back a bit by me as a lot of branches died after both of the above. I've gone a little crazy with fertilizing too with 10litres of liquid fish fert every 2 weeks and a bit of other occasional fert as well for good luck. All the trees are now about 2.5m tall and look great. Anyway. i hope this el-nina lasts for a long time 'cos el-nino sucks and causes damage to my trees. Pics next week. Cheers Matt

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MiLK_MaN says...
I bought 2 x Coffea Arabica and a Dwarf Catui from Daley's, all growing in pots.

Here's a pic of a plant that I've hidden behind a metre tall Flax so it gets filtered light. The other two plants I had got shade, then sun for a few hours, then shade, and they don't look anywhere near as good as this one.


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Steven says...
Here are pictures of my first harvest of freshly home grown and roasted arabica coffee beans! :)

I should have put them up a while ago but i forgot..

Surprisingly it was actually quite a good cup of coffee, it was a little harsher than what i usually drink (lavazza oro) but had a beautiful fresh aromatic quality to it. So it was definitely above average in my opinon.

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Muzza says...
Hi Steven,
Thanks for the pictures, very impressive !

Not long after I harvested my first crop, they are flowering again. This time lots of buds, only problem is that they flower not at the same time. So it may take a while before they all flower.

By the way, here is a good book I picked up just before XMAS, "Coffee Growing :The Tropical Agriculturalist" by H.R.Cambrony, publisher Macmillan. It has everything you need to know about growing coffee including propagation with seeds or cuttings, pruning, harvesting, identification of pests and diseases. It may be only 100 pages long, but is packed with excellent illustrations and photos. I got a copy over the web through "Berkelouw" books, cost about $32.0 AUD including postage.

Also, brought an small manual expresso machine for home use. In no time I was making expressos just like the cafes, yummy.

Muzza


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Steven says...
Thanks. mine are forming new flowers too, but there still a little while off before the open.

Its funny ive always read that its very difficult to process coffee in order to make a nice cup. But its actually very very simple. It goes to show you....


Ill check out that book thanks!!

Haha enjoy your nice espresso coffee. Bialetti are a good brand for coffee machines.

Time: 19th January 2011 8:36pm

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Hi. Thought I'd add my story too.

It all started when I was living in Costa Rica last year. I collected a few cherries and planted them, just for fun. They started growing into beautiful little plants. But then I had to return to Australia. My mother-in-law is looking after my plants but I will probably never see them again. Very sad.

My goal here was to successfully grow my own cherries and one day produce a little batch of my own coffee. I was thrilled when I was alerted by Richard Bradbury (from Australian Coffee Trees) that there was to be a coffee tree sale in Melbourne. So I raced out and got a coffee tree.

I kept it outside at first, but the Melbourne winter was looking to be very cold, so I brought it inside to keep it away from the rough winds and frost. The spot I have it in inside is not very sunny, but I guess you could say there is some filtered light hitting it.

My problem is that it was in another pot and was not draining properly. I noticed that the pot was full of water after one day waking up to discover incredibly droopy leaves. I took the plant outside for a few days and put it in a makeshift greenhouse (wooden stakes and thick plastic) but it didn't seem to get any better.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if my plant will recover or get worse. I did read above that the same thing happened to one of your plants Steven. I would like to know how it turned out. Also I am very much in awe that you produced berries!

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Steven says...
Hi Nicole how are you

Your coffee tree looks good. unfortunately that coffee tree that got sick died. i think it go poisoned by something to be honest. If your is drooping because of too much water it should pick back up but it probably wont do much until the weather warms up. check the soil first to make sure its free draining and doesnt get soggy and wet when you water it. if it does i would re-pot it into something more free draining. Seasol will also work well in stimulating your tree and something like work juice may also help in promoting healthy bacteria in the soil (it may also be a good idea to add say a dozen compost worms in the pot to eat up any infections)


Do you have a photo of the tree now. by the looks of it the soil seems fine so it may just be that it was overwatered and the cold is slowing down its recovery.


let us know how it goes




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Muzza says...
Hi Everyone,

Its been a while since I was on this forum. Here are latest pictures of my trees. They have berries, which are my second crop. Unfortunately, because of the cold they have been green since the end of last summer. However, they have been getting larger, and only now starting to go red. The trees are still in pots despite their height of 5.5 ft, but they are healthy and happy. Once, I harvest them, I will give them a good pruning at the top, to force them into a bush.

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Pauline says...
Great pics muzza. How old are your trees??
I bought mine last year, so not likely to get any berries for a while, but they made it through winter fine. :-)
When abouts did you find yours flowered around Adelaide?

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Nick says...
Those are brilliant trees you have there Muzza, what cultivar? Also one question, with the new growth at the top of pic 2, is it normal for it to look like that- mine is also like that even though I fertilise it heaps. :)

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My trees will be 5 yrs old next Jan.
They didn't start flowering until the 3 yr mark. They flower around spring-summer, with full berries by end of summer. Normally, they ready for harvest May-Aug under ideal conditions. In Adelaide, they won't ripen until following Sept. So, if you have full berries by end of March say, they will stay that way till Sept. All due to the cold. The new growth leaves start as light green, then darken. As far as I can tell the leaves with the brown tips are due to the cold. According to my coffee growing bible "Coffee Growing
: The Tropical Agriculturalist", if you have leaves where their is a yellowing along the veins, this is due to a lack of Magnesium. If the leaves along the veins become raised, it is due to a lack of Potassium.




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Steven says...
Hi Muzza how are you.

that coffee looks good. One of mine is that size at the moment. i keep it in a pot indoors. the other one is still in a smaller pot. I need to repot it soon actually. its smaller but looks good. Unfortunately mine didnt flower last season. I dont know why. they had buds developing but they never opened. Hopefully this year i get a good harvest!

As for the new leaves. mine often look like that too and i always fertilize them with worm castings and liquid fertilizer so i think its normal.

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I find my 2 dwarf catui trees are unusual- despite being the same cultivar with the same treatment (seasol, powerfeed and dynamic lifter+ light shade) the new growth looks different!
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Time: 8th October 2011 8:01am

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Pauline says...
That plant has a deficiency. I couldn't tell you off hand which, but have a google for which deficiency shows up on new leaves in-between the veins.

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Steven says...
Are the trees two different varieties?

I find the new growth of my coffee trees often looks like the tree on the right in picture two, from memory they do like alot of fertilizer however im never too worried about the new leaves because over time it seems to go away once the leaves mature. it could just be that they are being grown in a cooler climate than they are used to and the leaves are slow to develop. Give them a good fertilizer and see how they go but i think its generally normal.


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Hey Steven, theyre both dwarf catuis from Daleys. I looked more closely at the righthand one and the leaves at the tip are dark green. I was also shocked when I bought a proper soil pH testing kit yesterday and found out my soil was actually around 5!

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Steven says...
gosh thats pretty acidic. once youve neutralised it its a good idea to add some compost worms to the pot. they will eat up any bad bacteria/fungi, work the soil and break down organic material providing neutrients and helping to keep the soil neutral.

Ive never seen a coffee tree have copper leaves like the one on the left. its not sun damage is it? as for the other leaves i think a good fertilizer will help but i dont think its a big deal, i think its pretty normal but i might be wrong. However your soil being so acidic could potentially cause a deficiency.


I hope this helps


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Pauline says...
If the ph is too high or two low it stops plants being able to absorb different nutrients. This level is different for different plants. It wouldn't matter if you had the exact right balance of fertiliser if the ph is wrong.
I would have a google for what ph coffee trees like and try to adjust the potting mix. Maybe even by changing it completely.
Good luck

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lachie says...
Hi im wanting to grow some coffee plants but i dont know where to buy seeds in brisbane. If anybody has some seeds id be happy to buy a couple

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bob says...
Buy the plants from Daleys theyb are very cheep.

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Loma says...
I live in Brisbane. I have very lush coffee trees. Full of leaves flowers and fruit. I have my trees sitting behind a wall, that wall faces the western sun. So the trees are sheltered from the wind. I never water my trees just what they get from the rain and they are in a well drained position. The soil they live in is not anything amazing. It is incredible how they grow so well with so little care.

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Loma says...
I live in Brisbane. I will have heaps of coffee seeds in a couple of months and would be happy to pass them on.

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lachie says...
hi i would love some seeds please loma what type of coffee plant do you have arabica ?


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chillilover says...
Hi Loma, I would love to have some coffee seeds please. I am in Sydney so wouldn't mind paying the postage if need be. Thanks. Let me know.

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Pauline says...
I have my first flowers opening up yay. I only got the trees last year (winter I think) so am pretty chuffed. :-)

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Steven says...
Hi everyone.

I just wanted to ask, I have a coffee tree inside which is about to flower. While the flowers are self pollinating do they still need insects to pollinate them. I would imagine that would be the case in which case I should put it outside while its flowering.

Thanks

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Loma says...
No trouble to send some coffee seeds down to you. Just let me know your post office contact and I will post some down when they are ready. cheers Loma


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Loma says...
coffee seeds are still green but I have not forgotten you want some seeds when they ripen. My email lomasibley@bigpond.com

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Nick says...
My dwarf catui is flowering for the very first time (and the leaves are fixed now btw)!

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piet says...
I have beautiful coffee plant of about 5 years old. It's about 2 metres tall and has a huge number of berries on it. Most of them are dark red, almost turning brown, some are still reddish.

The problem is, they all float when put in water - are they really all off? I read somewhere this means they are either under or overripe, but no matter the colour, the same thing happens.

I tried making coffee anyway, but the result was very bitter and not pleasant.

Any ideas?

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Loma says...
Hi do you stil want some coffee beans? mine are coming on well now and I am happy to share them. I dont know what breed they are.

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Hi do you stil want some coffee beans? mine are coming on well now and I am happy to share them. I dont know what breed they are.

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Hi Loma was the offer for me. I'll email you my address.

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Muzza says...
Thought I include some pictures of my trees. As you can see they are going well after a good pruning and some potassium to encourage them to flower. Once they flowered, it was NPK and liquid fertilizer to get the berries to grow quickly while the sun still shines, as growth slows down during Winter.

The close up photo is of the smaller of the trees. It is going crackers compared to the others, after a good prunning and this is it's first crop.
I was worried about this one being a late starter.

Also, noticed that the top primary branches seen to have all the fruit, I guess due to being exposed to direct sunlight ? Anyone knows if this is true ?

I interested to know how everyones trees are going, so get posting !

Cheers

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snottiegobble says...
Muzza, Im intrigued, if you can grow coffee in Adelaide why not me in WA? I suppose that to grow them from seed I would need to source some berries cos the beans are roasted? How old are your bushes & what is the taller tree with the black berries in Pic.2? It looks a little like my curry leaf, but the leaves arent weeping!

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Muzza says...
Hi snottiegobbie,

My coffee trees are about 5 yrs old. And, yes the tall tree is a curry tree.

My curry tree does weep and drops a lots of it's leaves during winter, but they grow all back come spring.Those black berries if planted will grow. Mind you, curry trees grow very slow, it takes about two years before they get to about 20 cm tall. Some will not survive the winters.

I brought the original plants from Daley. According to my coffee bible "Coffee Growing by the Tropical Agriculturalist" it can be cultivated by planting the berry (which must be unroasted i.e. green) or by cuttings.
It is a pity you do not live in Adelaide as I can give you green beans and cuttings.

Coffee is not hard to grow, just keep it away from drafts and frosts. Lots of liquid fertilizer and water.

Good Luck

Muzza


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Nick says...
Those are some exceptionally healthy coffee trees Muzza! If you want snottie I can send you a few seeds when my fruit ae ripe?

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Steven says...
Hi Muzza how are you.

Those coffee trees look good. very productive. mine are looking good too. i have one growning indoors that has gotten quite big. no fruit however, its my fault though i should have watered it more when the buds were developing. i planted some seeds which are growing well too!

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Nick T says...
Has anyone around Melbourne had any luck growing coffee outdoors?

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Linton says...
To answer your question, yes the coffee plant will grow outdoors in Melbourne, but not very well. I got the one in the picture from Daleys 3 -4 years ago and it's about double the size now but not very healthy. They really don't like our climate if they are planted in the ground out in the open.
I've seen them growing quite well in a shade cloth house near here so just a little bit of protection makes all the difference.
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Pauline says...
An update on my trees in Adelaide. They had their first flowers last year and are covered in berries now. They are outdoors and the berry growth still seems to be doing great over winter. I am going to repot them soon though as they are getting too large for the ones they are in. Hopefully the berries won't suffer too much.

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Muzza says...
Hi Pauline
Nice to know your trees are going well.
Adelaide winter is very kind to coffee trees, so provided you do not live in a frost area you will be fine.

Mine are going crazy, have stacks of berries which are getting bigger. Unfortunately, the cold will delay the ripening to spring/summer.

So good luck on your first harvest.


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Bibwit says...
Hi there,

I've got five coffee plants, two were the foot high ones from Daleys (a Catui and a K7), an 18cm Arabica from Bunnings and two 8ish cm random Arabicas found on ebay.

I have a reasonably sheltered courtyard that gets sun for a few hours, but not much after 1:30 in the afternoon. I surrounded each of them with a strip of lightweight interfacing for protection. Up until about two weeks ago they all seemed to be doing quite well, but all of a sudden the 18cm, one of the 8cm and the Catui have become a bit sickly.

The Catui leaves have become rather limp, but the central trunk (more like a stalk though) still looks okay)- I've given it seasol and moved it to the more sheltered end of the wall which they are up against but I'm unsure of the likelyhood of survival. The other two have dropped leaves. Is there anything much I can do?

Unfortunately the wind has picked up in Melbourne and there is nowhere else to put them.

On the bright side, the other 8cm coffee is still looking good despite having some leaves a tad munched and the K7 has been growing new leaf buds on the sly (despite the label saying it was the most frost sensitive of the lot).
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M Nash says...
They dont like cold much and they detest the wind, Particularly Southerlies. Try to get them up against a southern fence or structure in the yard. Put some star pickets around them and wrap that in shade cloth
They love to fringe dwell on the northern side of a sub tropical rain forest so think of that when looking at your yard. Dont feed, Just mulch heaps of leaf litter and dont over water.


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One of my berries is turning red. :-)

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John Mc says...
The pulp is edible as well you know? I suck the red coffee berries like lollies and spit the skin and seed out, or plant it, whatever the case may be..

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Hi John Mc, what do the coffee berries taste like - is it worthwhile sampling?!

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They are sweet and fairly pleasant. There is no real taste though. Its an easy way to clean the pulp from the skin. Though I did read that the pulp has a higher caffiene content than the seed?

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Ness says...
Hi, have just harvested coffee berries off my almost 3 year old bush, is loads on there and still have more to pick, but was wondering how to tell when the berries are 'dry' enough to get the beans out (have had them in the sun amost 2 weeks), and do you wash the beans and dry them out too? Tried the 'wet' method with a few, they looked ok, but didn't roast very well.



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You have to remove all the flesh first. Some people do it like with grapes, put them in a large container and squash away, then rinse all the separated flesh away. You could suck all the flesh off if you were looking for a caffein hit, so I've been told.
You can then let them dry out in the sun, where you will then find a parchment surrounding the coffee bean itself. This part is not easily removed. You could try putting them in a blender for a couple of quick hits, will remove it, but it's all trial and error. When you've removed all that, you can then grind and enjoy your coffee.
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Hi, Thanks for the feedback. After the parchment is removed is it a greyish looking colour?


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John Mc says...
get a dried coffee bean after you have removed the red skin and pulp, and bite the parchment off, the coffee bean must be thoroughly dried for the parchment to slightly loosen from the bean. it's a thin hardish papery skin covering the bean itself. It's not one of the easiest things to do without machinery. Someone might have an easy way to remove it, other than a couple of hits in the blender.
After the parchment has been removed, some people have used popcorn makers to cook their coffee beans.

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