Controlling codling moth (forum)

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I'm having a really hard time dealing with a heavy codling moth infestation of 2 large apple trees. Today I ate the seasons first peach off a nearby tree and it also had a codling moth caterpillar inside!

We moved into this house 11 months ago, and the apples were 95% ruined. I've followed nearly every control method since then (except spraying) to try and get a good harvest this season but looks like at this stage I haven't even made a dent on them.

We have 5 chickens regularly free ranging the orchard, and I placed wide sticky bands around all the trunks and lower branches just before blossom hoping to catch them as they moved up the tree from the ground.
I also have kept 4 sticky traps in the trees since blossom to try and detect when they've been active, but haven't seen even 1 moth on the traps so thought I'd had them under control. The trees are a smooth bark variety and the ground is clear, so I'm pretty sure Ive removed possible cocoon sites. My 2 dogs also ate most of last years apples as they fell, and the rest were binned. I'm thinking the only think left to do is spray, but have I left it too late? The fruits already ruined but would like to make a start for next season.
I also can't find much on what spray to use? I've got Eco oil which one article said will smother eggs.
Is spraying too much Eco oil bad for the trees?
The only thing I can think to do at this stage is keep spraying the trees every week for the rest of the season and hope to break their cycle.
Any other ideas or methods you guys have found work?
Thanks.

Time: 29th December 2014 8:07pm

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Waterfall says...
I just bag everything and don't bother with sprays except to prevent leaf curl on my peaches and nectarines.
For apples you would need to bag the whole tree not individual fruit as the stem is too short. If the tree is too big then you could chop it right back to a manageable size and go another year without fruit most likely until it grows back some fruiting spurs.

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Time: 29th December 2014 8:49pm

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You could try mixing up pheromone with fipronil if you are adventurous. Otherwise, just keep trying to minimize damage. All of the sprays recommended are contact sprays, so have to be timed just right, otherwise they are useless.

Time: 29th December 2014 10:26pm

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Parkesy says...
Would the Eco oil being applied every week be of benefit? What's the incubation period of the eggs? I was hoping that if it smothers the eggs and I spray every week I should hopefully get a spray in before the eggs hatch?

Time: 30th December 2014 8:09am

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RoGro says...
Hey Parksey. I see your post was 2014. How is that Apple going and have you sorted out a regime to counter the codling moth? I have just started to organise a mainly organic approach for this season and was having a look at what forums were about and the answers people had. A lot of the solutions are descriptive but not prescriptive so leave a lot of questions still.
1 - Immediate Question. CORRUGATED CARDBOARD wraps to attract larva to pupate Inside.
1a- I presume the timing for placement of these is after fruit set? So Oct/ Nov?? In Melbourne.
1b - Is it a waste of time starting before then as larva will not be present to pupate. (Which we hope to avoid anyway)Therefore cardboard will just get soggy and be a wasted effort.
1c- Also should cardboard be placed more horizontal so to protect from water penetrating?
1d- and is the corrugated cardboard that people say to use - open corrugated or the type Used for boxes that has A laminated layer on both sides. It would be very Laboursome to look for pupa in those sealed corrugations.
Ok. Look forward to replies and I might make a concise post of my findings and program. Surprised there is not already one on this forum??
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Time: 29th August 2020 1:23pm

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Parkesy says...
Hi RoGro, yes I’ve had it well under control for the last few years. I spray with Yates ultra success when the apples first form and are about pea size, and repeat every 2 weeks for about 4 applications and am lucky to see a single hole in an apple now!

Time: 30th August 2020 8:14am

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RoGro says...
Hey parkesy thanks for reply. Wasn’t sure whether I would get a response as your post was quite a while ago.
I’ll look into the Yates product.
I understood Yates Dipel also did the job??

Did you also try some of those more organic approaches such as:
1-bottle Traps for males
2-pheromone traps
3-corrugated cardboard on trunks and branches for pupa formation
4-horticultural glue on trunk

Again many thanks for reply and I will Also pass On info to a friend Just down the road from you in Rye

Time: 31st August 2020 12:40pm

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