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Hey everybody, I thought I'd make this post so everyone can trade cuttings, seeds and stuff all on the same page (let me know if you think its a good idea or not). To start things off, I've got planty of Captivator gooseberry cuttings to give away if anyone's interested.
Nick

Time: 28th May 2011 6:05pm

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Nick says...
Hey Phil,can I please have a yellow guava seedling and an ice cream bean? I'm willing to pay or of course trade them for something (or both :P).

Time: 28th May 2011 8:37pm

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Nick says...
Thanks Phil, I'm sure gooseberries are still a chance in New South Wales (how cold does it get in Tyalgum?). What I've done is put mine on the south side of a really high fence which gets about an hour of direct sun in summer and none and at all in winter. It doesnt seem to mind this shady position, considering it tripled in size since when I planted last July, but just remember to give it plenty of water in summer.

Time: 29th May 2011 10:55am

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zady says...
yes please.

Time: 29th May 2011 11:15am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
k-hey guys leave your e-mail addresses here and I'll be in touch after I delete them for privacy reasons on this site.

Time: 30th May 2011 5:11am

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zady says...
zadysundancer @ hotmail .com

I know i don't need to space it, but it helps keep bots and stuff to a minimum in my inbox

Time: 30th May 2011 10:59am

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Haakon says...
Gday Phil,

I would really love some pepino cuttings. How do they travel in the mail?



Time: 30th May 2011 12:23pm

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Jantina says...
I can answer that one Haakon. I sent some pepino cuttings to Germany and they disappeared in the mail for a while then turned up about a month later( had probably been languishing in the German version of AQIS). All the leaves had rotted off but they had grown roots and subsequently grew very well. So there you go, no problems.

Time: 30th May 2011 12:48pm

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Nick says...
Sure thing Jantina (the white sapote geoff gave me is coming along great by the way). My email is niksmaster2008@hotmail.com.

Time: 30th May 2011 6:08pm

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Nick says...
Wondering if you still have those plants Phil?

Time: 9th June 2011 6:11pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes but you still haven't replied to the e-mail I sent to you privately Nick.
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Time: 10th June 2011 9:25am

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Zady says...
ughh never mind, still far to early in the morning for me!!

Although I do have to say, if my icecream beans survive it will be a miracle!.
They have been scratched up indoors by the cats, and drowned ( put them out for a sunny day that turned to lotsa rain ) and dug up by the dogs outside. *sigh* poor little beggers. lol I feel like a negligent mum

Thanks

Time: 10th June 2011 10:29am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes I did Zady, maybe it is still in your junk box, so let me know either way.


Time: 10th June 2011 10:47am

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Jason says...
Zady, ice cream bean seeds will need to stay warm to grow. Unless your house is a LOT warmer than mine even being inside wont cut it during Winter. If you are lucky enough to have your hot water tank inside the house somewhere, sit them on top of that

Time: 10th June 2011 12:03pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
They are twelve month old seedlings - how do you think they would fare down south Jason?

Time: 10th June 2011 12:29pm

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Zady says...
Hi Jason, thanks for the tip, I will have to try and mother them through the next 2 months, but after I move, the hot water system at the new house is outside but under shelter, so will plonk them on that.
Currently, when inside, I have them sitting on the clothes dryer, which is getting plenty of use in this weather!

Also, just double checked Phil, no email in my spam either, though it may have been deleted. Can you try again? thanks.

Time: 10th June 2011 1:25pm

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Nick says...
I didnt get the email either! hahaha.

Time: 10th June 2011 5:57pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Ah well, that's the second one you didn't reply to, sent one last year about black sapote seeds as well. Seems like the swap idea isn't gonna get off the ground somehow.

Time: 10th June 2011 11:11pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Zady just found the original e-mail in her junk folder in case anyone was wondering..

Time: 10th June 2011 11:16pm

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Nick says...
Hmmmm I dont remember getting the email about black sapote seeds either.... stupid hotmail -.-. Can you maybe try to send the email one last time, please?

Time: 11th June 2011 2:04pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
sure Nick, will do

Time: 11th June 2011 2:46pm

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Ady says...
I'm very interested in swaps but don't have much to offer as of yet . Nick I would love some Gooseberry cuttings if you still have some


Time: 13th June 2011 10:11am

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Nick says...
No problem Ady, just send me an email at niksmaster2008@hotmail.com. :)

Time: 14th June 2011 5:35pm

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Nick says...
Hi guys, wondering if anyone has any spare dragonfruit/pitaya cuttings to spare?

Time: 25th June 2011 9:07pm

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peter says...
hi nick,
i can spare a few small ones at the moment or if you wait about a month
theyll be bigger.
what varieties do you want. i have
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pink flesh
f1 hybrid
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Time: 26th June 2011 5:18pm

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Nick says...
Hi Peter thanks tonnes for the offer. I'd like a pink and red flesh and also a yellow but I think I'll take the small ones if its ok :) My email is niksmaster2008@hotmail.com.

Time: 27th June 2011 7:38pm

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Nick says...
Hi guys, does anyone have any jaboticaba, grumichama, rambutan or sapodilla seeds/seedlings/plants? I've got an abundance of pomegranate and quince seedlings as well as custard apple,carambola, longan and citrus seedlings, persimmon seeds; gooseberry, cape gooseberry and carambola cuttings and also small fuchsia plants.

Time: 11th July 2011 8:06pm

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Mike says...
Nick, I have all of those in 3,2,4 and 3 varieties respectively.Rambutan might be a stretch for Altona.If it isn't urgent I could send you some seeds,seedlings and cuttings in a couple of months.The things you have that would survive here, I already have.

Time: 11th July 2011 8:23pm

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jason says...
Are you the Mike that worked at Limberlost?

Time: 12th July 2011 1:35pm

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Nick says...
Thanks Mike, it isn't urgent, Im just interested in extending my collection of rare edible plants.

Time: 12th July 2011 2:04pm

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Nick says...
By the way, do you have any durian seeds/seedlings? Would you like a $10 Daleys voucher in return?

Time: 12th July 2011 2:59pm

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Mike says...
I have about 12 durian seedlings in pots that were going to be rootstock until yasi killed my two big durians.I then lost interest and some are now too big and growing through the pots.All the ones in pots I grafted died when I was on holidays and they didn't get looked after properly.
The hardest trees for you to grow would be durian,mangosteen and rambutan.

Time: 12th July 2011 5:39pm

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Nick says...
I understand that theyre hard to grow, but while theyre young I'm gonna bring them in when the weathers too cold and during the day they'll be in the greenhouse which usually gets to above 20 degrees except on cloudy days.

Time: 12th July 2011 6:00pm

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Mike says...
Nick, many people in this forum seem to be pushing the boundaries and enjoying tropical fruit and growing them further south than expected.I had this conversation with the fruitist who has a longkong growing in Brisbane.We can pin down where it is possible to grow what and then there are surprises.I think even with horticultural wizardry and careful selection of varieties durians,mangosteen and rambutans producing fruit outdoors below latitude 19 or 20 would be a fabulous achievement let alone at latitude 38 where it may need supernatural intervention.

Time: 12th July 2011 7:16pm

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Brad says...
does anyone have 9 star perennial broccoli?

Time: 12th July 2011 7:25pm

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Nick says...
Mike, I dont really mind not having fruit though it would be a bonus. Do you mean Romanesco brocolli Brad?

Time: 12th July 2011 7:40pm

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Mike says...
Nick,I'll have a short holiday from swapping and sending and as I said get a few off to you in Spring.

Time: 12th July 2011 8:57pm

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Nick says...
Thanks Mike! :)

Time: 12th July 2011 10:19pm

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Brad says...
They are related Nick.
9 star is apparently Brassica oleracea botrytis aparagoides and looks like this

Romanesco is also Brassica oleracea, sometimes known as fractal broccoli and looks like this

Time: 13th July 2011 11:38am

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Nick says...
Sorry I've only got romanesco seeds. Does anyone have any fuchsia or frangipani cuttings I can have? (Im starting a collection and I think some of the fuchsias are even edible :D)

Time: 13th July 2011 11:04pm

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Jason says...
I don't grow any fuchsia's at the moment but I've eaten lots of them. Sometimes they are pretty good!, lets say much better than a capulin cherry anyway lol.

In Melbourne the other day I was in a Spsnish shop and I bought Lucuma puree and I also saw some Ulluco's in a can. For anyone whos like I was and hasn't tasted Lucuma. It tastes like...... Sweet potato with sugar or caramel added more less. In fact pretty much exactly like that

Time: 13th July 2011 11:19pm

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Nick says...
Nice Jason, can you eat most varieties?

Time: 14th July 2011 10:23am

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Rowan says...
Hi all, anyone got some varieties of gooseberry cuttings I can buy. I have plain old 'Captivator' but would like to try some others.
PS. My parents used to have a fuchsia nursery. Try different kinds/varieties as many taste quite different. Makes nice jam - what doesn't, lol.

Time: 14th July 2011 5:20pm

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Nick says...
Just tasted a berry from a fuchsia plant in bunnings, it was okay- sweet but quite bland with a texture like jelly.

Time: 24th July 2011 7:40pm

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Nick says...
Anybody want some Hardenbergia or "The Santorini" tomato seeds?
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Time: 18th November 2011 7:27am

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sony says...
Hi Jason,
Do you know the name of that shop?..I love lucuma...makes great icecream...
Thanks

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MaryT says...
Abutilon is also edible (flowers) and there's always a lot of nectar. Easy to grow from cutting, very pretty, lots of flowers.

Time: 24th January 2012 2:42pm

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amanda says...
Nice posts MaryT and Mike - sounds interesting what u have both got up to? MaryT - Shark Bay is best in the autumn - around April/May...very beautiful then - cooler and the howling winds have stopped.. :)
I still have to get to Dirk Hartog Island - hopefully before they stick a 5 star resort on it or such?! ;)

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MaryT says...
Thanks for the tip, Amanda; I hope to get there one day... I looked up the list and realised I lied when I said I have been to all the WH sites LOL Anyway, my love of nature grew from travelling the Oz wilderness.

Time: 24th January 2012 7:57pm

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David says...
Can someone help , i tried to send off some seeds to someone in sydney today only to be told by someone at Australia post ,that i cannot send interstate plant ,material is this correct .David

Time: 24th January 2012 8:21pm

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MaryT says...
I don't see why you cannot send plants interstate unless it's WA/Tas - nurseries do it all the time. But we don't know since none of us ever sends plant material interstate.

Time: 24th January 2012 8:52pm

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chillilover says...
David you didn't have to tell them it's seeds. I never do. Anyhow there's no restriction apart from TAS and WA i think.

Should go back and tell them to show you where their getting their info from.

Time: 24th January 2012 9:10pm

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David says...
Thanks all

Time: 24th January 2012 11:34pm

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Nick says...
Would anyone like some bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) or bolivian fuchsia (Fuchsia boliviana) seeds?

Time: 1st February 2012 11:29pm

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juanita says...
Hi Nick, is that european bilberry? Hubby brought home a jar of preserved bilberry from UKR ages ago, it was so delicious & supposed to be full of antioxidant & good for our eyesight..how abt the chill factor? will it thrive here in melb?

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MaryT says...
Mike I am overwhelmed by your generosity; the plants, cuttings and seeds you sent me are just great. Some are unfamiliar but I will look them up and try them out. Some are favourites that I don't have so am over the moon to receive them. Still potting but taking a break to send you a big THANK YOU.

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Nick says...
You've got quite a lot of planting to do Mary! Are those the papaya seeds in pic 6? You must have an extraordinary collection at your place Mike, where do you source all your rare seeds etc?

Time: 2nd February 2012 6:10pm

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chillilover says...
Not sure what the hype about white sapote is but there's this person selling a plant on ebay for a reasonable cost i think.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/White-Sapote-Fruit-Tree-Yum-Yum-Pick-up-Bris-GC-/180798553583?pt=AU_Plants_Seeds_Bulbs&hash=item2a186efdef



Time: 3rd February 2012 2:30pm

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MaryT says...
Daleys sells it too, chillilover; we're just looking for seeds :)

Time: 3rd February 2012 2:33pm

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chillilover says...
oh ok. I thought it's very rare or something like rambutans. Well hope you find some seeds.

Time: 3rd February 2012 2:54pm

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MaryT says...
Chillilover if you wait till summer in the northern hemisphere you'll find rambutans in the shops (if you're after seeds).

Mike my Boesenbergia rotunda has flowered - wonder if it's the same as your krachai?
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Time: 3rd February 2012 8:30pm

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Nick says...
Well its your lucky day chillilover, I dropped by Footscray Market earlier and they had hundreds of rambutans (and mangosteens, longans etc, even a durian for $4 per kg!). Do you want me to send you some seeds soon, maybe even some mangosteen seeds if you're keen?

Time: 3rd February 2012 8:43pm

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Nick says...
Unfortunately it was a frozen durian, i doubt the seeds would germinate at all so I didnt get it. I forgot to mention, I also found what I thought was cheap turmeric rhizomes there so I bought a few of those too. Whats santol taste like? I've always wanted to try one!

Time: 3rd February 2012 10:03pm

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chillilover says...
Hi Nick, if you don't send me those seeds it won't be your lucky day then. Oh please mate i'd love to have those seeds. Nick i think i owe my entire garden to you.

Time: 3rd February 2012 10:27pm

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Nick says...
Dont worry its fine, I bought tonnes of fruit just in case! :)

Time: 3rd February 2012 10:29pm

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chillilover says...
It's very sad i only get to see the seeds and not the fruits. We don't get much exotic stuff in Sydney.

Time: 3rd February 2012 10:47pm

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chillilover says...
Hi Nick, i got your seeds on Monday. Is that even possible. When did you send it. Rambutans already planted but what was the rest. Thank you so much for being generous. I am hoping you trying to germinate rambus as well. Wish you success.

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Nick says...
I glad they all arrived safe! The pea sized ones are chick pea seeds and the smaller ones are soy bean, I also chucked in some Fuchsia boliviana seeds for some interest (theyre the very smallest seeds in there). If you're after any other legume seeds, the place I got em from has a large selection!

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Nick says...
The fuchsia seeds are about the size of carrot seeds- very small!

Time: 8th February 2012 10:01pm

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peter says...
hi all,
does anyone have any wampee seeds
to swap.

Time: 9th February 2012 11:23pm

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John Mc says...
Hi Peter, I might be able to help you out soon. I have a seedling and a Guy Sam in fruit ATM. The harvest will be very small but you're welcome to all the seeds. They're probably still a month off.

Time: 10th February 2012 8:16am

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peter says...
thanks john, let me know when they
are ready.


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Mike says...
Peter I has better get another wish list from you.If you're interested in knowing more about DF I can send some info to you in case you don't have enough.

Time: 10th February 2012 8:43pm

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peter says...
hi mike,
yea any more info would be great.
is there anything around that tells
which varieties that we already have
are better in full sun or shade.

Time: 10th February 2012 9:06pm

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Mike says...
Peter,this is my reading of it....not really for here but for Israeli and American ones yes there is a bit more on sun tolerance.The general theme seems to be start them in shade and let them grow into full sun except if you are in a low humidity (often inland and dry areas),hot summer area and then shadecloth protection helps during summer.Most good american types seem to be able to handle full sun in a mediterranean climate like Adelaide.Some types have thicker,more waxy 'skin' that helps.The yanks reckon the yellows struggle more in cool and drier places.

Ours appear to be a motley crew without cv names.Desert King in the NT and the newly named columbian supreme have names at least.The aussie ones have not been selectively bred for dry,cool climates or harsh summers.

I had better send a few references to you.

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peter says...
ok.
im trying to work out why my mature healthy plants have never flowered,
hence the sun/shade question.
do you know weather leaving branches
all the way up the stems would stop
them flowering.
another problem is when they get to the top of the pole they just lean against it and keep going up and up.
even one large branch that almost snapped right off and is hanging by
its central spine has produced more
branches and is strongly curling upwards.

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John Mc says...
Peter, I remove everything off the main stem till it reaches the top of the post then it can fan out and drop over the top of the post and multiply from there. If I'm removing shoots from a good var, I let them get up to a propagating size before I remove them. I have a large pink that hasn't flowered in the last two years so I started spraying it with a foliar feed of liquid potash and seasol a week about and blow me down I got a flower.
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Mike says...
All the cultivation advice says retain a single strong stem until nearing the top of the support by trimming side stems to maximise flowering.The umbrella of stems should hang down at least in the first place,also to encourage flowering.Maybe you need to cut the uprights and weigh down the laterals until they bend to your will.

Adelaide could a tough gig for some DF types not selected for the climate. The environmental cues for flowering in yucatan to columbia might happen less often.If the californians and israelis have productive DF, Adelaide should be able to as well.


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peter says...
hi guys
last year i was removing the side stems
every week but the more i removed the more seemed to grow, ill start removing them again and also try the folar spraying.

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MaryT says...
Mike the one jimcama seed that sprouted within days of planting sprouted two leaves this morning. It's the only one that came out but it is vigourous!
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Mike says...
Jicama are vigorous plants that look like runner beans but it is onlt the tubers that are edible.Some seeds can take longer to germinate.

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Mike says...
Jicama are vigorous plants that look like runner beans but it is onlt the tubers that are edible.Some seeds can take longer to germinate.

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Mike says...
Peter,hammering those side shoots into submission and foliar spray on the aerial roots is probably a good strategy.If my ken's red turns out to be a desert king and I get one of those with a 4.5 cold tolerance on the table I flicked to you they might be a better bet down there.Your F1 and yellow might be the toughest ones to get any satisfaction from.

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Nick says...
Does anyone know where I can find a muscadine grape plant or cutting? Daleys stock them but quarantine prohibits them being brough into vic.

Time: 11th February 2012 10:38pm

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Mike says...
BJ the seeds and SC we discussed can't fit in their 500g express bag.Even with just 3 seeds of each it comes to 700g.I will box them today instead and send them pony express on Monday which should take 4 days.The pepper and sprouting plants should be fine.

Time: 12th February 2012 8:30am

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chillilover says...
Hey Nick some good news. One of my rambutan seedlings sprouted. Roots out with a little bit of a shoot. Super duper excited. It's only been 6 days. Hows your doing. This summer is gr8. The best growing conditions. Humidity and semi heat. Loving it.

Time: 12th February 2012 10:20am

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MaryT says...
OMG Mike - thanks for a most interesting parcel of goodies that I'd just picked up from the PO. I'm letting them breathe while I write to say a big THANK YOU BUT you should not have sent money! The swap is more than fair. For your sin you will have to put up with more plum jam!

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Which is which Mike?
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Time: 13th February 2012 10:31am

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MaryT says...
thanks, Mike. I'm planting!

Time: 13th February 2012 12:12pm

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Nick says...
Lucky you Mary! :) From left to right it is suagr apple, miracle fruit (the fruit really is amazing!), snake gourd and Carica monoica.

Time: 13th February 2012 4:04pm

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MaryT says...
Well done, Nick. Go to the top of the class. lol

Time: 13th February 2012 4:26pm

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Mike says...
Mary T I should be thanking you for the bags and another beauty of a book.There are loads more bags than I expected and you have gone to alot of trouble.I do appreciate it and many bags will be in action very quickly.Once again there is imbalance in the universe that can only be restored by another parcel at the risk of creating an endless loop.
Nick you are sharp alright but I reckon I could round up an assortment of fruit,veg.and herbs seeds and plants to confound you....at least for a while.

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Nick says...
The herbs and starch crops last time were enough to confound me! All the 4 sweet potatos are sprouting and so are the curcuma and arrowroot (a bird or something snapped off the arrowroot sprout though rrrrrrrr) :)

Time: 13th February 2012 7:03pm

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Nick says...
Not to trouble anyone, but can anyone spare some seeds/ cuttings etc of these plants: muntries (Kunzea pomifera), Billardiera scandens, atherton raspberry, Solanum centrale or Tasmannia lanceolata? I have plenty of tamarind seedlings which are ready to send as well as salak (Salacca something), achacha, Fuchsia boliviana seeds, Helleborus hybrid seeds and bilberry seeds. :)

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MaryT says...
Nick do you know how long the seeds are viable for? Because I still have some seeds that I took off a bush in Tassie in 2009. I've forgotten I had them until now. You can have them if you want. They still smell good.

p.s. I'm talking about Tasmannia lanceolata.

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Nick this is what they look like.
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Time: 13th February 2012 10:16pm

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Nick says...
Unfortunately I dont think theyd be still viable.... http://www.dpiw.tas.gov.au/inter/nsf/Attachments/LJEM-7CV7BN/$FILE/Tasmannia%20lanceolata%20Notesheet.pdf

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MaryT says...
I see they're viable for only one year... too bad; guess I should eat them :) I'll ask around.

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Nick says...
I also have Native Frangipani seeds (Hymenosporum flavum) for anyone whos interested :)

Time: 14th February 2012 9:49pm

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Mike says...
Nick,did your salak fruit look sorta like a bali one with tight skin and globular shape?

Time: 14th February 2012 10:05pm

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Nick says...
I had bali ones earlier in the holidays but the ones I collected seed from were thai salaks.

Time: 15th February 2012 6:54am

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MaryT says...
Nick, would you like Tasmannia stipitata/Dorrigo pepper? My friends can probably get you some seeds/cuttings?

Time: 15th February 2012 8:48am

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Nick says...
Id love some! Would they want anything in return?

Time: 15th February 2012 4:31pm

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MaryT says...
No Nick they won't. They said they're pretty sure they'll run into some tomorrow so they'll take cuttings for you; wrong time for seeds apparently.

Time: 15th February 2012 5:12pm

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Mike says...
Nick you must have lots of space to house all your acquisitions.It is good you share with chili who seems eager to expand the collection.You guys probably should put a wish list out and you never know what could happen.

Time: 15th February 2012 7:20pm

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Mike says...
BJ it seems those postal workers were speaking with forked tongues.If tomorrow is not the day then your ICU might not be enough andit might take the spirit of lazarus.All are replaceable except the mangosteen and no more pony express.

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BJ says...
Mike, the parcel arrived today. Packed full of goodies. The Mangosteen looks pretty good, just have to hope there is enough time for recovery before winter. Triage was hectic this afternoon!

Time: 16th February 2012 10:42pm

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peter says...
hi john mc.
seedlings arrived yesterday and
all planted today except for two.
thanks heaps for sending them.

Time: 16th February 2012 11:26pm

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John Mc says...
I'm glad they made it. I thought my packing may have been a little dodgy this time round.
I have just trimmed my Vietnamese DF if you want a cutting? It produces very large pink\white fruit, and as far as I can tell, is self pollinating.

Time: 17th February 2012 8:09am

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MaryT says...
Hi Nick are you there? My friends have the Dorrigo pepper stems and leaves - where should they send it? Pls let me know tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au

Time: 17th February 2012 8:59am

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MaryT says...
Nick I have your address from Mike so I've passed it on to my friends. They will send you the cuttings. It seems the leaves of the Dorrigo pepper is being used to make pasta (as a flavouring) by a Melbourne restaurant and they're buying them up.

Time: 17th February 2012 10:35am

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Nick says...
Sorry about the slow reply Mary, thanks a tonne for you and your friend's generosity! That's a great idea Mike, here's the list of plants I'm looking for at the moment: muscadine grape, kiwiberry "issai", jaboticaba and garcinia seeds (I find the plants spectacular additions to the greenhouse), although I won't turn down a chance to grow any other rare fruits I haven't mentioned (hope I'm not sounding too greedy lol)! :)

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Nick says...
Oops I forgot to mention durian seeds.

Time: 18th February 2012 1:54pm

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Mike says...
Hang in there Nick,I have lots of jab. seeds and durian seeds are not too hard to get.I am outa circulation next week but after that I might be able to round a few odds and ends up.My 1.2m miracle fruit had 100's of fruit plucked yesterday.....maybe a kg,I now have some good marang seeds and a few other species will soon be at my fingertips.

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That's OK Nick. Mike I have not finished the 'homework' you set yet so won't dare ask for more. :) Meanwhile seeds are sprouting and plants are growing out of their homes! I need to visit the tip to pick up more pots!

Time: 18th February 2012 2:54pm

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Nick says...
Good news Mike, all four of the sweet potatoes have sprouted (one of the plants has purple leaves!!), the arrowroot has even put out its first leaf despite having its growing tip removed :)

Time: 18th February 2012 3:19pm

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Mike says...
There wasn't much variety in your parcel if I remember correctly and it is good if all 4 S.P.'s are getting their act together.When the runners root,chop them to make new plants and you can eat the tips as a green (or purple).Was it the WI arrowroot or the canna/common arrowroot?

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Nick says...
From my memory it was a WI arrowroot, whats the difference?

Time: 18th February 2012 11:36pm

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Mike says...
Nick,they are very different plant species but both have starchy rhizomes/tubers.The canna AR has big ginger like rhizomes and the west indian AR has multiple carrot like tubers.

Time: 19th February 2012 12:04am

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Nick the cuttings of the Dorrigo pepper were sent to you on Friday.

Time: 20th February 2012 9:39am

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Nick says...
The cuttings arrived in great condition today and theyre now nice and cosy in the greenhouse. Thanks again for you and your friends generosity, if theres ever anything I have that you guys want I'll be more than happy to send it :)

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Wow that was quick! I'll let them know, Nick. Good luck with it.

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MaryT says...
John Mc your parcel should arrive tomorrow. Hope it has not turned into chilli paste but the seeds should still be viable, I hope.

Time: 23rd February 2012 5:45pm

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John Mc says...
Thanks Mary, arrived this morning. Your return address was on the back so I'll send the pods to that PO box. If they don't germinate they strike by cutting very easily. I picked two pods yesterday afternoon so I don't think you will have any problems.

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MaryT says...
Thanks, John Mc! Good luck with the chillies. I have not done a taste test so perhaps you'd want to try it before you plant it, but the shape is amusing.

Time: 24th February 2012 8:04am

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Mike says...
I'm back from outer space and I am enjoying jam on toast and looking for public holidays on my new calenders.Thank you for that.

Time: 24th February 2012 8:51pm

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Welcome back Mike. I hope you had a good time in the dry tropic.

Time: 24th February 2012 9:05pm

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Mike says...
Thanks Jujube it is a good place and it is a pity I was a prisoner and could not frolic and soak up the local 'ambience'.I will have have about 12 trips of a week or so to very remote places this year and I hope the garden can handle it in the dry season.There has has been action in the garden while I was away and the seedlings in pots have been shooting and sprouting also.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Good to come home to see some actions in the garden.
I know it is very hard when you go away and there is not much rain.
For pots, I normally make holes in soil and insert some water saver peals before I go. BTW, my lufa fruits are hanging down and one of them nearly 1 meter and still very skinny not yet ready to pick.

Time: 24th February 2012 9:23pm

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Mike says...
All the potted plants did ok as there was enough rain.The luffah should start producing lots soon and you might be surprised at how big they can get when they fill out.

Time: 24th February 2012 10:10pm

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Good tip, Jujube. Hi Mike; good to hear that you're out of jail :) While you're away the snake gourd seeds sprouted! They were so mouldy when they arrived I was tempted to throw them away but you said they'd be still good and so they are!

Time: 24th February 2012 10:21pm

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Mike says...
Mary,Townsville is only 350km down the road with the same temps (24-31) but feels more pleasant as the humidity is noticeabley lower.I was stuck in workshops and work oriented stuff so couldn't do much.
Those seeds were from a variety given to me by jujube and the fruits are short,pale and have green patches.They look like an indian type.I think a few seed types with coats that encourage mould growth seem to have higher germination rates after they get mouldy.

Time: 24th February 2012 10:38pm

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David says...
Welcome home Mike, and yes the seeds are sprouting like crazy here too

Time: 24th February 2012 10:38pm

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Mike says...
Hello David I was hoping you would get a good rate of success as they were the biggest seeds I could get.I sent a few sprouted chempadek to BJ also and didn't know if they would pull through as they went pony express.Did you have many casualties?

Time: 24th February 2012 10:45pm

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MaryT says...
Mike, I am trying to work out HOW I can grow snake gourd around here :) I'll pot them up tomorrow to the next size and hope it would wait till I find a solution. More jimcamas' come up, corianders, chillis...

Time: 24th February 2012 11:04pm

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David says...
So far so good Mike but have noticed the type 2 chemp seem to germinate faster than type 1, mabolo,s are up and running also,the z4 abiu have a noticable diff leaf structure to the plant i had,also a lot hairier, the ambers are nearly 4 in tall, only 3 survived out of the 6 you sent but very happy with that

Time: 25th February 2012 7:53am

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Mike says...
David the Z4's were probably crossed with an E4 that grows next to the mother tree so have taken on some of E4 characters.E4 and Z4 are the 2 best but E4 is different from other abius,being hairier,broader 'mango' leafed and a weepy habitat.Once chemps and jacks come up they are pretty hardy.

Time: 25th February 2012 8:07am

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David says...
Just emptied out 62mm rain looks like more to come, just saw a water dragon in the pool.

Time: 25th February 2012 9:05am

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Mike says...
Mary T I can pack something tonight and send it tomorrow. The perennial coriander has no seeds but I have another plant that seeded before.So it's coriander,tumeric,C.xanthorhiza,mekong vine,P. paw paw,betel leaf.jicama pods and maybe brazilian lettuce.Is more sugar and duruka of interest?

Time: 28th February 2012 8:17pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Mike! You're not emptying your garden into mine are you? :) Umm, did you say you have the Chinese celery ? Any Chinese greens would be good. I've tried Gai Lan before and it grew well but I had to fight swamps of white moths and since I didn't like to spray it was a losing battle. :(

Time: 28th February 2012 8:23pm

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MaryT says...
Not sure what I would do with betel leaf , Mike, but brazillian lettuce sounds good. If there's room I wouldn't mind another piece of sugar and duruka just in case... hope I'm not being too greedy.

Time: 28th February 2012 8:27pm

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Mike says...
Mary I am hacking them and losing the war of containment.With Saccarums you can actually lie the sections down horizontally.Betel won't be a culinary star but I'll scratch around when the rain stops and find a replacement.

Time: 28th February 2012 8:42pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Mike; I didn't have time to look everything up so I just put the piece in a pot standing up LOL (makes sense to me at the time!) though I did wonder at the roots coming out of the 'joints'. Never mind, it worked; kind of. It's trial and error around here. I can't keep my eyes open so to bed; it's been a hot humid day (for us). Don't go out again; I have enough.

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MaryT says...
Thank you John Mc your package arrived today. Busy; Mike's parcel's arrived as well! Lots and lots and lots of goodies...

Time: 2nd March 2012 5:10pm

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Mike says...
Packages are arriving all around thanks Mary T and I'm loaded with good stuff once again.I know what the next package has to be filled with.

Time: 2nd March 2012 5:27pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Mike, here's a pic of my Cocona. Fruit will be sampled real soon.
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Time: 2nd March 2012 5:50pm

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John Mc says...
On the left is the rootstock of a grafted Tamarillow. I bought it only because it had the rootstock shooting, cut the grafted tamarillow off and let the original rootstock grow. I was keen to see what the pro's used. The right is, of course, a red tamarillow.

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Time: 2nd March 2012 5:59pm

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Mike says...
John Mc it looks just like my cocona did except it has fruit.I hope it hangs onto them long enough for you to get to eat them. Snake beans and pit pit swamped most of garden beds and formed a sail that came down during a storm on my cocona (that originally was 2m from the pit pit).It got broken and is now almost permanently shaded.Maybe I'll dig it up and move it.
I have a few new fruit seeds that you may be interested in.

Time: 2nd March 2012 7:15pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Mine is ok with lots of fruits as big as an apple. I tasted my first fruit yesterday. Even though it was yellow 100% but I think I will leave them on the tree for a bit longer to get a sweeter version. A bit like tomato in flavor but very solid. I added some to my curry it tasted good. I think the flesh can be chopped up and add to Bruschetta. I will try with the next fruits.

Time: 2nd March 2012 8:38pm

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John Mc says...
Hi Lucy, I picked up a 3kg express envelope from the PO yesterday so I can include as many wax jambu fruits as it takes to make up the 3kg if you wanted them, besides the other stuff, of course. They are not fully ripe so I don't know if they would be any good. Here's some pic's for you to decide, they are a very irridecent red when fully ripe. Let me know if you want them.

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Time: 2nd March 2012 9:08pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi John Mc,

You make my mouth watering. They look soo beautiful and yummy and the tree is very productive. Do you know the name of the variety?

They are ready when they are all red like the big two fruits in the first picture. I love them very much but I think you should save some for your family only the spare ones that I will want them. They are hard to find you know.

Many thanks for the offer. I am very much appreciated.

Time: 2nd March 2012 9:56pm

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amanda says...
Those wax jambu's grow incredibly well in Geraldton..!(hot and dry) they must be an acquired taste though...? ;-D

Time: 2nd March 2012 10:33pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Amanda,

You can eat them out of hand, very good for summer when you are thirsty. Stew with raw sugar and serve with ice cream. The tree is stunning when in fruits.

Time: 2nd March 2012 10:43pm

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amanda says...
It sure is a handsome tree jujube..love the leaves too. I can't stomach lilly pillies...I guess that's why I haven't enjoyed these. I didn't know they had named varieties though?
A taste of those might change things!? :)

Time: 2nd March 2012 10:45pm

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John Mc says...
It's a red seedling from Daley's. It's a pity they didn't ripen some more, but I can bring the satchel up to 3kg with the largest, ripest fruits.

So far, I'm packing 2 male /female gac, a chinese liquorice and the rest with wax jambu fruit, have I forgotten anything?

Time: 2nd March 2012 11:14pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Many thanks John Mc. You are very kind and generous. Not important but If you have a small maqui berry plant available now may I have it included please.

Time: 3rd March 2012 8:18am

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Mike says...
Mary T I hope you were happy enough with the parcels. As you could see there were only few plants in the one from me due to the tumeric hogging the space.I bet you got some good stuff from John Mc as I have before.

Time: 3rd March 2012 5:55pm

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MaryT says...
Mike I emailed you but I guess you can't pick up outside of work? Thank you so much for sending the parcel; much much more than I expected. John Mc sent precious seeds; how lucky am I. I've been drinking turmeric and ginger tea all day. I planted everything you sent (other than seeds and gingers) but they are struggling. It's also turned cold here so it must be a shock.

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Mike says...
Yeah I left work a bit early on Friday.It is still 24 to 32c here with 1000% humidity.
Too bad if there are few casualties as there should be enough survivors to keep you entertained.Now that you have seen the tumerics do they seem different from your ones? The C.xanthorhizas are perhaps not to everyones taste.
I found some resprouting brazil lettuce and can get the thick black sugar if you have space for more recruits.

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MaryT says...
Thanks Mike I think it is getting harder to keep things healthy now that it's so cold here so please halt further export for now. I do have a lot and they keep growing and multiplying. I still have seeds to try. It's time to consolidate. Sounds like Hong Kong summer in Cairns. Your turmeric is stronger for sure. I have not tried the xanthorhiza yet.



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John Mc says...
Hey Lucy,
I just had a look at the Maqui berry, there's no roots showing in any of the air layers as yet, bit more time,it's been quite cold here. As soon as some roots show through, I'll send them up.

Time: 3rd March 2012 8:37pm

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Mike says...
It sounds like you have some inclement weather in your neck of the woods.If we toss toss in a few 100 mm of rain each and send to it WA I'm sure they'd appreciate it.I left some pots of fruit tree seeds out in the rain for nearly 2 weeks and they all rotted.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi John Mc,

Many thanks for letting me know. Not too worry about Maqui berry, I understand how the weather like in Sydney and Melbourne: cold. That is the reason for Propagation process is very slow.
On the other hand Mike's area and mine are boiling hot and rain at times.

Time: 3rd March 2012 9:11pm

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Mike says...
BJ Its packed and will be in the mail tomorrow ETA Wed/Thurs.Exactly 500g so no asian greens could fit in and a few other possibles have missed out on a ride.A 3kg bag would have been more sensible to fit everything.I had to do surgery on the bag to put in mucosa seeds that were forgotten.Also missing will be the burmese grape seeds due to unauthorised comsumption of the lot and red atis.Even one more seed will take it over.

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MaryT says...
Hi Mike, this came unmarked in the parcel. Not looking fabulous but overnight it seems to be trying hard to survive - see the new shoot? You definitely need to wrap it in paper first to prevent steaming. ID please.
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Mike says...
Mary T it is a Carica monoica to replace the one that passed away. I'll make sure I wrap things in paper in the future,I just got a bit lazy.

Time: 4th March 2012 9:15am

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Mike! It may come good yet. We're having a 27 degrees day before the temperature drops again. Sydney weather!

Time: 4th March 2012 9:35am

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Mike says...
Mary they should be better suited for sydney than the standard paw paw.I would rather have your summer and autumn than those seasons here which are monotonous with heat,humidity and rain.

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MaryT says...
Ah but you have mangosteen...

Time: 4th March 2012 10:03pm

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Mike says...
That is true but you don't get to eat them every day,although I have been lately.A chum gave me a few big ones and there are 6 left in the fridge and the apple size may have been stretching it.They are 117g to 194g on my scales.

Time: 4th March 2012 10:13pm

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MaryT says...
Guess you have to take the mangosteen with the heat, humidiity and rain, Mike. We can't complain. Plenty of stone fruit at the moment but I guess we all yearn for what we rarely see. Just checked the paw paw; still hanging in there. I looked it up; very cute.

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Mike says...
BJ and David,a fruit grower from near Tully just brought me 2 marangs of the best varieties in Australia and a jackfruit that he claims rivals his ambers.

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Mike says...
That was a premature submission,anyway I am tanking up on them right now and these fruits are exceptional.They are outstanding in taste flesh recovery and fruit size.Let me know if you're in the market for seeds of them I am loaded with them.

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BJ says...
Mike, you know my address! ;-)
Those aren't Bruno's are they?
I'm still trying to figure out how to get an Amber from Ingham down here.
I'm always so envious. I have to put up with just a few guanabana, rollinia and sapodilla - and lots of 'decent' mangoes. I'm on the lookout for a move up north!

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David says...
Yes Yes Yes, oh did i say Yes, thanks Mike, that would be great, HAve tried Marangs here did ok.Thanks again

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BJ ,thats a serious move

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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BJ ,When you say decent mangoes,im curious what varieties do you have, good ones are so hard to track down

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Mike says...
It was Peter S. from Feluga and he has the best orchards around and is a friend of Bruno.I forgot the name of this jackfruit but it and amber command the highest prices.One marang is his commercial one and the other is a different style from another farm.They are luscious and I'll be sick if I keep eating.David I already have a few seeds to send next week anyway so I'll do it then.BJ did everything survive? I may be getting a big selection of seeds soon so stay tuned.I wonder if John Mc can still plant seeds this late in the season?

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David says...
Mike this sounds great,will post some bags up to you tomorrow, to at least cover some of the expense, my advice stop eating, hope your not diabetic.Describe the taste compared with Amber.

Time: 7th March 2012 8:46pm

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Mike says...
It has larger 'bulbs'(65g av.without seed) than amber with even thicker,crisper, orange flesh and is a feather less sweet but it still has a classic jackfruit taste.The fruit is huge with little latex and a very high flesh yield.You'd spit out the common named varieties in horror after trying this.The marangs are something else compared to most you encounter,with larger bulbs and a cleaner more agreeable fruit salad taste.There is no hint of unusual savoury flavours and the aftertaste is pleasant.

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David says...
Mike it still irks me that some retail nurseries are still pumping out the crapier cultivars and passing them of as something as good as sliced bread. Seriously, do you honestly think youll sleep tonight on such a full tummy

Time: 7th March 2012 9:12pm

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David says...
Got to go for a while chores to do be back in hour or so.David

Time: 7th March 2012 9:13pm

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David says...
I guess the problem up your way Mike is that trees grow so big so quickly, refering to the artocarpus species,where as down here the problem is climate,Brissie must be on the cusp of the southern limit for growing these species

Time: 7th March 2012 10:36pm

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Mike says...
David I think once they are established they would be alright,even in nth NSW.Marang and breadfruit might be getting close to their limits but I don't know if people grow them there.Durian,mangosteen and lansiums would be tougher I think.

Time: 7th March 2012 10:48pm

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David says...
There is a chap John Picone i think that has Marang growing and he is in Nth NSW,also cocao, not sure on the last 3 you said ,The weather is definately turning into the Autumn patterns here the overnight temp dropped down to 19 last night, still lots of moisture round so the humidity is still ok. Your right and spot on mike about establishment. THe biggest problem here is not june or july but August when low humidity and wind chill factor are at there worst

Time: 7th March 2012 10:59pm

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John Mc says...
Sure can Mike, my poly (hot) house is getting a little crowded though. Painfully slow progress is being made on the new larger one.
Your Z4's are powering along beautifully, but if I want to keep the growth up I'm going to have to move them back into the polyhouse soon. My 2yo seedling is now over 2.4m high, very lanky, needs support. Would it be OK to prune it back now? or wait till next spring?

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Mike says...
John Mc when in doubt chop it is my motto.I would trim the abiu now.At 2 years here they are past the lanky stage.I'll get some seeds off to you next week.

Time: 8th March 2012 5:51pm

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MaryT says...
Mike I received your email; have a nice break and please don't worry about packing another parcel or you'll be having recurring nightmares about it :) You are too good and generous.

Time: 8th March 2012 5:53pm

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Mike says...
Mary, I received your parcel today and thank you once again.I chutney,express bags and plenty of reading.Your plants and seeds can be ready to go at any time and the mangosteens,we'll find out about tomorrow.The plants will be good ones next time.

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Nick says...
Hey Mike, how are the legumes I sent coming along? Mine absolutely exploded out of the ground after 5 days of rain! I finally got around to planting the jicama seeds on sunday and they'd already germinated by wednesday :)

Time: 8th March 2012 7:09pm

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Mike says...
Nick I haven't planted any yet because it is still too hot and wet.When I swap to the winter crops in 5 weeks with tomatoes,radish,shallots,pak choi,bok,mustard,lettuce etc then all of those will go in.Those jicama are chinese so should be more cold hardy than most.That was a pretty miserable parcel I sent you before and my intention is to send a better selection soon if it is not too cold.

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David says...
Mike , some goodies in the mail sent to you today as promised.

Time: 8th March 2012 9:20pm

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Mike says...
Thanks David

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Nick says...
I sure wouldn't call the last parcel pretty miserable, there was some stuff in there I never thought I'd have my hands on! We've been having some great autumn weather lately and the plants have been loving it :)

Time: 9th March 2012 7:55am

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MaryT says...
Hey Mike please know that we value every little thing you sent - the most insignificant volunteer from your garden when nurtured becomes a cherished addition to ours.
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Mike says...
Mary it looks like the celery will pull through.Your parcel is in the post and so is John Mc's.David and BJ's will go on Monday.BJ all will be there except burmese grape and rambai which suddenly are nowhere to be found.

Time: 9th March 2012 1:40pm

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BJ says...
Thanks Mike. I'll wait until next season to try for Baccaurea.

Time: 9th March 2012 2:17pm

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David says...
Thanks Mike

Time: 9th March 2012 4:01pm

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Mike says...
David the bags arrived thank you,they will be used and now I am loaded with bags.If I can't squeeze everything into one then it will be easy just to toss it into another.BJ the season is not over for them yet and those I saw were poor quality which I presume was due to the varieties.the.I'd rather not send anything that is not a top quality type.
Soon I will be practising propagation so the spares will be looking for good homes.

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David says...
Sounds promising Mike, never heard of Burmese grapes

Time: 9th March 2012 4:31pm

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Mike says...
David, rambais and BG's are the two best in the genus with BG's being a little sweeter and bigger in improved varieties.They are also better suited to subtropics as they extend into NE Thailand.Some I got for BJ got eaten by 'accident' and I haven't found good ones again.

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David says...
Sounds like the problem we used to have with a dog we used to have, he manged to destroy a grafted Manilla red Santol,marcotted Mammea americana,those were the two favs in the garden, that was 4 years ago,since then havnt been able to replace either as most of the really professional propagaters have since stopped doing it or have retired ,Mike Fabian where are you now ,springs to mind. Mike are Tampois available or not, also Tawn, have just seen on the nine network news a little boy killed in the very street you live Mike,My thoughts are with the parents.

Time: 9th March 2012 6:10pm

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Mike says...
Yes David it was a very sad incident about 200m downslope on my street.Police were there evaluating the scene for much of the day.
Tampois are around but they just aren't good enough to get people interested.I don't know what tawn is, but many varieties of tuan (fiji longan) can be found.I can't remember what I sent you and what I haven't.Did I send any Sam Ru Du or Santol seeds and I'm not sure if you want herbs,gingers or vegies other than the fruit seeds discussed?

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BJ says...
I had a nice taun growing for a few years. It got planted at my father's farm, then got run over by his son-in-law on the ride-on mower :(

Mike, if you are practicing propogation and will have extra trees on your hands, I'd be happy to take the load off ;) I can give some good homes and find excellent homes for others where they will be prized and treated better than babies.

Time: 9th March 2012 8:59pm

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Mike says...
BJ,I have done a little marcotting and grafting before and if I get extra of those that could do alright down there,I'll send some.It could take a litle while.
Some tuan are really good with lots of flesh but the trees are big.
They were small portions in that last bag and I hope there was enough of the black sugar to strike.I found a perennial coriander in the yard.Do you want kang kung and rice paddy herb?

Time: 9th March 2012 9:15pm

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David says...
You are right forgive the spelling its taun,and no did not receive Sam Ru Du or Santol, as for herbs and the like, we mainly grow the usual culinary stuff. Mike any fruit seeds unusual and rare would be appreciated, when it finally dries out here am going to try my hand at marcotting the green sapote.

Time: 9th March 2012 9:40pm

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Nick says...
what kind of fruit seeds do you have at the moment Mike?

Time: 10th March 2012 11:10am

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Mike says...
Nick I have more herbs and vegies as I have offloaded most fruit seeds.At my fingertips right now I have miracle fruit,jaboticaba,ackee,marang,jackfruit,rollinia,red sugar apple,common sugar apple,dwarf hog plum,kaffir,santol,sapodilla,chempadek, brazil guava,giant white guava and maybe abiu.I had other species last week but they're gone now.Only a few of those would survive in Melbourne.

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Mike says...
David and BJ parcels are in the post.BJ I think I didn't label a bag with brazil lettuce,rice paddy herb and culantro.

Time: 11th March 2012 1:21pm

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David says...
Thanks Mike,look forward to that.Thanks again. David

Time: 11th March 2012 3:25pm

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Mike says...
I suspect all 4 parcels will arrive tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday morning at the latest.

Time: 12th March 2012 7:32pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks Mike I'll let you know as soon as it arrives.

Time: 12th March 2012 7:47pm

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David says...
Ditto , honestly i feel like a kid waiting for a penny lollipop.

Time: 12th March 2012 8:22pm

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Mike says...
David I got a huge black gold/honey gold? jackfruit this evening from a kuranda friend.I am a bit over them at the moment especially ones that are not top shelf.Mike Fabian must be around still as he visited the Salleras farm a few weeks ago.Adam his replacement has also left limberlost and the nursery has diminished.
Today I chopped down an ellendale mandarin and a sharwil avo but left enough for them to act as dragon fruit posts.Between downpours and other chores I also trimmed a few trees.

Time: 12th March 2012 8:50pm

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David says...
Thats the trouble mike when you taste top shelf ,the rest are alsoruns, pity about Limberlost, on recollection i think i have been buying from them on and off since 1995 i think,Mike used to be so helpful on the phone when id ring up to order.

Time: 12th March 2012 8:58pm

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David says...
This weekend is going to be showery so planning to plant one or two Ambers which are now between 6 and 8 ins tall, and 1 or 2 Chempadek, 1 of type 1 and 1 of type 2, Had a mammey sapote seedling show its head last weekend, so will keep an eye on it also

Time: 12th March 2012 9:02pm

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Mike says...
With the seeds,don't keep jackfruit and marang seeds too wet as they prefer to germinate in a drier mix.Rollinia,ackee and the others are not as prone to rotting and are not as fussy.

Time: 12th March 2012 9:08pm

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David says...
Thanks for the tips Mike, have been rereading up on Ackee, to be sure.

Time: 12th March 2012 9:20pm

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Mike says...
There are only a few ackee seeds and some have sprouted so it might take some care with my dodgy packing.I spread them around and only had a limited number of the very good type and ditched the poorer types.It seems good quality types are quite rare.

Time: 12th March 2012 9:40pm

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David says...
Bye the way Mike the Mayon chid has sproated a new set of leaves, so your packaging is not that dodgy. Off to bed big day tomorrow.Thanks again for your efforts Mike.

Time: 12th March 2012 10:38pm

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David says...
Hi Mike, The seeds arrived at7.10am this morning was just going of to work when the postie showed up, so it was a quick rush to bury the seeds in seed mix, must say you have outdone yourself this time ,all arrived ok. Discovered 2 of the sam du ru ,seeds were rotten, 1 ok so fingers crossed.Cant beleive how small marang seeds are compared with jackfruit. Thanks again Mike. p.s Thanks also for the bonuses. David

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Mike says...
David, no worries, it is funny how everything happens at once. If you had weighed the parcel you would see it was 499.8g and nothing else could be included.Was it the older sam ru du that was good? Good marangs usually have smaller seeds and you can eat cooked ones like peanuts.I'll send the name of the jackfruit variety when I get reminded of it next week.

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David says...
Where did you learn your technique for packing everything was in great condition and yes it was the older and the smaller one hope the other germinates ok. Mike are the fruit bowen shape or the elongated asian shape.

Time: 13th March 2012 9:00pm

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Mike says...
I thought it was packed roughly because I just scratched around looking for anything to pack with.Sam ru du are not like bowen but the classic asian shape like ok rong or like a less pointy and less flattened nam dok mai.I can send more if they are something you are interested in.

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David says...
Am i right in thinking they flower more than once in any given season.Saw a photo of Mike Fabian couple of weeks ago standing in front of a big Matisia tree, holding a fruit in hand, dont know when it was taken.

Time: 13th March 2012 9:18pm

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Mike says...
Sam ru du means 3 seasons in thai and they are very sweet.Typically they are a village tree that has 2 to 4 flushes of fruit a year and sometimes are continuously fruiting.It is one of the most prized varieties in SE Asia.

Time: 13th March 2012 9:26pm

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BJ says...
Min e arrived today too. Thanks Mike!
The Guava is a surprise. Tastes like pineapple candy. Will definitely find a spot in my yard!

Time: 13th March 2012 9:42pm

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David says...
Will be interesting to see how it fruits and flowers down here.Your offer to send more is very generous ,but Mike take it easy and rest for a while, doing all this packaging ,for others as well as myself takes time to do. Keep your eye open though. Thanks David

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Mike says...
I'll take it easy for a while then while keeping my eyes peeled.BJ the guava is the mystery guava from a thread last year and the tree is everbearing and prolific.It is no ordinary P.guineense and I should strike some cuttings.It is way better than a yellow cherry guava in my opinion.The shiso cutting was not struck first so will be a challenge.I ran out of space for other greens.

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BJ says...
From the one fruit i have sampled, it kills the yellow cherry guava stone dead, no question. Cant wait for it to get up and going to see if fruit quality is consistent. Thanks again for all the other goodies. I've got a great range of marangs and mangoes up and now more on the way. A few of the rambutan seed have come up already. And I've got so much cane I could change my name to Tully! Now to get them all set up for winter.

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Mike says...
BJ the only reference to the guava was someone who called it a pineapple guava, and another person said it is not a brazil guava being too sweet,with soft skin and soft seeds.If the seeds don't come up I'll make sure I have cuttings because it should be 'out there'.You should have piece of green and black village sugar the rest is duruka.The marang with just a few seeds 'not salleras commercial' is something special.

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MaryT says...
Mike I pigged out on mangosteens; thank you so much. What can I send you in return? I'll have a look at the "Gourmet Market" this weekend... yes, please have a rest though I imagine the rain must be giving you cabin fever.

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Mike says...
Mary it could be better if you have a rest from sending parcels as well as you have sent plenty already.The forecasts are for continuing rain but it is only sprinkling this morning.The temps have been a brisk 24-29 and the rain feels cooler so winter must be on the way.

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MaryT says...
The days are getting shorter and the sun is lower here already :( but it is nice to have a change of seasons. It is a time to consolidate. My citrus have fruit on them, still green but soon there'll be marmalade.

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John Mc says...
How nice were those Mangosteens? I've saved all the seed, just gotta give them a go. I might have half a chance of growing them when my poly tunnel gets built.

I'm with you Mary T, I've run out of exotic material to send to Mike, thanks is not enough for my constitution. Maybe I can send him some of my special loquats when they're at their prime.

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Mike says...
I have a few irons in the fire with getting some seeds of fruits not available in Australia.Wan (supersweet) maprang,sweet candy tamarind and laplae durians are seeds I have been chasing. Someone has them in hand from a cooler part of Thailand (mins to 2 celcius) and will send them to me with the icon printouts.After chopping trees down this week I have a few spaces that need to be filled.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Sound good. Good luck Mike. I hope you got what you want.

Time: 15th March 2012 10:19pm

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Thanks jujube and thanks for the card.Nat has been there almost a week and has instructions and a list.
The rain here has been quite persistent.Soon as the wet season winds down I will pull up my summer vegies and vines and put in the winter ones.Are you still driving north on the 25th?

Time: 15th March 2012 10:31pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Thanks Mike. It has been raining here heavily too. I packed your things and ready to go. I am thinking of driving North on 24th and stay back overnight and leave the next day for the festival. I am watching the weather and will let you know closer to the day.

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Mike says...
No worries Jujube.

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MaryT says...
Mike I forgot you're not at work and sent you an email. Just wanted to let you know that I'm sending a book.

Time: 16th March 2012 10:56am

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Mike says...
Mary, hold yourself back as you have sent too much already.Are most of the plants surviving?

Time: 16th March 2012 12:38pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks Mike; most of the plants are doing well, even the papaya is still hanging in there. There's a forest growing outside my door!
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Time: 16th March 2012 4:49pm

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Mike says...
Wow it is all looking good Mary and nearly all of those should handle the weather there.Is pic 4 a miracle fruit or gramichama? I don't have too many other worthwhile herbs and vegies but seem to stumble across good new ones on a regular basis.

Time: 16th March 2012 7:18pm

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Mike says...
Wow it is all looking good Mary and nearly all of those should handle the weather there.Is pic 4 a miracle fruit or gramichama? I don't have too many other worthwhile herbs and vegies but seem to stumble across good new ones on a regular basis.

Time: 16th March 2012 7:18pm

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MaryT says...
Mike pic 4 is a miracle fruit; I have two of them. Yes it's getting greener out there all the time; I love checking their progress every day. Look how big this Thai mint has grown? I have to repot it again soon.
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Time: 16th March 2012 7:36pm

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Mike says...
They don't need much soil so if you trim the top and use that pot will last a while yet.The grasshoppers do most of the trimming for me.

Time: 16th March 2012 7:50pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks for the tip, Mike. Yes, I should start harvesting to see how well it responds.

Time: 16th March 2012 8:40pm

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Mike says...
That type of mint is tough and vigorous and even grows in cracks between bricks.At rustys' yesterday the mangosteens were scungy and expensive,but dragonfruit,rambutan,longans,mabolo and many others were cheap and good quality.I bought some sam ru du mangoes that were around 500g and perfect for $3/kg and a giant 1kg matisia that tasted good and only had 1 fully formed seed.

Time: 17th March 2012 8:43am

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MaryT says...
Hey Mike what you described only happens in Cairns; I don't see any Thai mint growing in the cracks around here :) The summer is over in Sydney and it's raining. The temperatures' dropped overnight. You can still get a few mangoes, though not as cheap and I suspect not half as nice.


Time: 17th March 2012 9:09am

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Mike says...
Mary,I woke to continuing rain and a heavy fog/low cloud that has retreated upslope now.Even my ducks are sick of it.Day temps have cooled here also with the wet weather but it still is not falling below 24 at night and the humidity is high.And there goes another downpour,it is perfect for growing fungi on all surfaces including walls,fabric,plant roots and trees.

Time: 17th March 2012 10:28am

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David says...
Hi ,same in Brissie right now 80% humidity and 27 degrees, Mary same here also for mangoes only Keitt.

Time: 17th March 2012 11:37am

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Mike says...
David,now that I am a bagman I could hang on to the sam ru du seeds (or germinate them) until I get a few other seeds or plants to join them on a trip to Brisbane in a couple of weeks.Is it best to cut them open and only plant the good ones? Do you still have vacancies for new plants and seeds?

Time: 17th March 2012 1:37pm

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David says...
Yes ,yes and yes, noticed you mentioned matisia a while back was it good. Germinate sounds good,temps here are now down to as low as 18 some nights ,might have to put the marang onto the small heat mat ive had for years. Is the Brissie trip business or pleasure.Might be able to meet up .

Time: 17th March 2012 1:45pm

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Mike says...
It was actually the plants I was talking about going on the trip.All my trips this year will be to remote places in the northern half of Queensland,unless I go to SE Asia in December.
I only have one seeds of the giant fruited (1kg) matisia but I'll check out a few varieties in case the smaller types taste good.Bad ones are stringy,watery and taste of cooked pumpkin but good ones are like rockmelon with a hint of mango.I haven't been chasing seeds very hard but they keep 'falling into my lap' through friends and the markets.I could be getting a batch of seeds from NE Thailand soon and there could be some rarities amongst them.


Time: 17th March 2012 2:00pm

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MaryT says...
Speaking of Keitt, David I did buy a 750 gm monster for $3 a couple of weeks ago. Sweet and juicy but I do miss the 'real' mango flavours of SE Asia. They're now selling something else at the supermarket. Ah Mike lucky you; sadly my exploration days are over.

Time: 17th March 2012 3:18pm

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Mike says...
Mary I still have a couple of 3kg express bags hanging around making nuisances of themselves.While I'm likely to be busy late next week, I may be able to round up a few asian mangoes the following week.Mary,sorry to hear that health challenges are getting in the way of travelling.


Time: 17th March 2012 4:32pm

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David says...
Mary i really enjoy the kwan mango, all fiished now, the perfume,of the flesh is overpowering sometimes. At 750 grams thats pretty big

Time: 17th March 2012 5:03pm

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MaryT says...
Mike if I have to stay put I can think of worse places than Sydney; anyway I'm in remission (hurray), it's just fatigue (from treatment and other complications) and decrepitude of old age which happens to everyone. :)
I am philosophical. You know you won't ever run out of express bags if you keep sending them out. They always come back. :) In fact I know one that's coming your way. lol

Time: 17th March 2012 5:06pm

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David says...
Mike sounds like the matisia tatse like the mammey sapote no connection is there.

Time: 17th March 2012 5:06pm

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Mike says...
Every time I go into the garden a cloudburst chases me back inside.Matisia have juicier, slightly fibrous flesh more like that of a mango than the 'paste' of a mammey.They are likely to appeal to more people than mammeys.
Mary a lady I know is in a very similar position.From now on I had better use up the bags I already have.

Time: 17th March 2012 5:41pm

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David says...
Mary I do understand where your coming from, i work in an industry with people like yourself, have clients ranging in age from 16 to 96, so as you can see i see people with all sorts of problems in there lives, wouldnt change it for quids, along the journey have met some truely outstanding people.

Time: 17th March 2012 6:04pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks guys; growing edibles has been one of the most positive things - not just for eating, but watching things grow is unbelievably uplifting.

Time: 17th March 2012 6:51pm

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BJ says...
I love watching the Mabolo emerge from its seed cap. Fascinating little thing! Lots of guavas are starting to come online around here and none are anywhere near the one you sent down Mike! Thanks again for sending everything down Mike. The Asian greens are appreciated and will get great use.


Time: 17th March 2012 9:19pm

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MaryT says...
You are so lucky, BJ! I have only had the yellow cherry here but my strawberry guava is flowering. Is the nice 'pineapple guava' a feijoa?

Time: 17th March 2012 9:49pm

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BJ says...
Mary, Mike's 'pineapple' guava is not a feijoa, but a yellow guava that tastes like pineapple candy. If the seedlings turn out like the parent i'll be very lucky indeed! I've had a non-stop supply of yellow cherry guava all spring-summer, but they are just not very good. Wife likes grazing on them, so the tree stays for a little longer... My Purple is producing for the first time, but am not hoping for much - i mostly like the pink flowers and purple leaves, if the fruit is eatable, then its a bonus. I put my strawberry guava in the mulch pile today.

Time: 17th March 2012 9:57pm

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Mike says...
BJ no worries and there can be more in the future if you have room.I hope you get a good survival and germination rate.
I don't bother with my yellow cherry guava as the seeds are too hard and the taste is so inferior to that guava.In the mystery guava thread its difference from the regular P.guineense (not a feijoa) made it hard to identify,especially as it fruits continuously.If the cuttings strike I'll send you one because it needs to 'get out there'.

Time: 17th March 2012 10:00pm

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David says...
Pity you did BJ, i can recall 25 years ago when living in Auckland NZ, after being transfered there for 5 yrs, met this lady who was a cousin in the family she owned a property south of Auckland , little place called Pukekohe,mainly grows potatoes ,leeks ,onions etc, she owned a beach property and on it were 3 very old strawberry guava trees. From the fruit of these trees was produced the most exquisit,light pink guava jelly,delicate in flavour and colour, and crystal clear. That memory really delights me every time i think of it ,she sadly has long since passed away but the memory lingers on, i can smell and taste it even now.

Time: 17th March 2012 10:26pm

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MaryT says...
Hey yellow cherry guava tastes pretty good when they're all you have!! I don't even notice the seeds though they're there. Is the strawberry really so bad, BJ? I've waited so long for it to even flower.

Time: 17th March 2012 10:32pm

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BJ says...
the fruit is quite okay, just not up there with the Mexican cream, China Pear or Mike's 'Pineapple Candy' guava. It bears far less than the yellow cherry, even though it flowered lots more. I have to be selective on my very small block.

Time: 17th March 2012 10:45pm

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Mike says...
My neighbour has a big red cherry guava that is festooned with fruit right now.They are almost as large and tasty as the yellow cherry guava but the kids there don't eat many preferring to raid my brazil guava near the boundary.Brendan showed a picture of brazil guavas but his had white flesh,bigger seeds and hard skin but were still the same species.


Time: 17th March 2012 10:48pm

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BJ says...
Mike, i cant come to call yours a Brazil Guava. I am used to hard skinned, seedy, barely edible ones - not tasty ones like yours.

My father had a red cherry guava 7ft tall and at least 15 wide. millions of fruit. Only eaten in winter due to fruit fly. Much more valued in winter when less fruit was around. Got chopped down to make room for less fruit fly prone planting.

Just had a light yellow guava from a tree down the street that drops loads on the road. White flesh, 4x size of yellow cherry, smaller than most pink tropical. quite subtle, nice, but very seedy. Would make a good juice.

Time: 17th March 2012 11:00pm

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Mike says...
BJ Brazil guavas are the most widespread and genetically diverse guava species with varieties cultivated in the Carribean and Peru.I figure this pineapple one is a good cultivar rather than the wild type that seems to be the typical one here.The foliage and young fruit look the same.Could your yellow guava be a mexican cream? My first crop of those is just about to get ripe.

Time: 17th March 2012 11:14pm

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BJ says...
I think the local one is a seedling/relative of Mexican Cream. It looks similar, and taste is similar but more subtle and seeds are hard and more numerous. Still, not too bad to pull a few free fruit off when I jog past. :) Gotta beat the fruit flies and bats to them though!

Time: 17th March 2012 11:31pm

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MaryT says...
I love to 'glean' as well BJ; I know where I can get pink pepper corn, lemon myrtle leaves, Monstera deliciosa, all sorts of edible blossoms and herbs from the roadside as I go by :) In fact it was a massive Rosemary bush that was pulled out by the Church around the corner that forced me to take some of its cuttings and grow my own.

Time: 18th March 2012 8:16am

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