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i have recently purchased two dragon fruit plants, they are just starting to disply signs of blistering and going yellow, i suspect it could be due to frosts we are getting, but i just want to make sure it isn't anything else.
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Time: 21st June 2007 4:07pm
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Time: 21st June 2007 4:23pm
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Anonymous says...
They can tolerate some frost but I'm not sure how much they can actually take. Probably wouldn't hurt to put a bag around them during winter while they are young. They often get a few marks on the skin but it doesn't realy stop them growing.
Time: 21st June 2007 10:23pm
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AARON says...
THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY GUYS, I HAVE TAKEN SOME PICTURES OF THE DRAGONFRUIT, AND ALSO ADDED ONE OF A CRYSTLE APPLE THAT IS YELLOWING??.
OUT OF INTEREST, THE DRAGONFRUIT IN QUESTION IS A YELLOW FRUITED ONE, I HAVE A RED ONE THAT IS NICE AND HEALTHY AND BEEN TREATED IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, ARE THESE MORE HARDY?
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Time: 27th June 2007 9:36am
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Kath says...
This is frost damage, you need to protect these young plants from the cold. Your pitaya will most likely rot out on the stem where it is damaged as long as it has some woody veins left it will survive, but cover these frost sensitive plants on frosty nights. A cardboard box with a weight on the top to stop it blowing off will do the trick, make sure you uncover them in the morning.
Time: 27th June 2007 12:18pm
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Scott G says...
Here on the Gold Coast we got a very localised frost (the first in the 7 years i have been here.
Many of my plants were damaged from it.
Before the frost the dragon fruit had some damage from the sun and looked like a milder version of what is in the above photo. Some large flat areas facing up are blistered but the edges were ok. It has those black dots.
The frost damage is different. It froze from the thin edges inwards. Much of the larger mature stems had edge damage but the centre is OK. All new shoots and growing tips were destroyed. The damage in this early stage appears similar to the mush that lettuce that has been frozen and thawed looks like. The tips are dark and wilting.
It has only been 2 weeks since the frost so I will see how the damage and then recovery in spring goes.
I also have a yellow Dragon fruit that grows right next to the one above. The yellow one may be slightly more sheltered and had no new shoots or growing tips. It appears undamaged from the summer sun and the frost.
Time: 27th July 2007 12:28pm
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Ed says...
Hi All,
A number of my trees have been affected by the rare frost on the Gold Coast. Worst affected were the mango trees. The trees are between 2 and 4 years old. The leaves have turned golden brown and the growing tips have died. Also, my Bangalow and Golden Cane palms have turned brown (also approx 3 years old).
Has anybody known for either mango or palm trees to recover from such a condition?
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Time: 2nd August 2007 3:30pm
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Greg says...
If the Mango is still alive you will see shoots coming from the older wood in about 4 weeks. We still can get big frosts for the the next month so do not prune the older burnt foliage until after then. Even though unsightly the dead foliage protects any live tissue lower down the trunk. The frosts 2 weeks ago were the coldest for at least 30 years over much of SE Qld and Nortern NSW. Hopefully we wont' experience them again for a long while.
Time: 2nd August 2007 7:39pm
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Anonymous says...
I have both red and a yellow dragonfruits that have had their young shoots destroyed by frost here in Toowoomba. But the older leaves are still ok. I can even see some tiny new shoots forming already. The mangoes here in Toowoomba get a bit of frost each year but they still bear fruit well.
Time: 4th August 2007 5:57pm
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Scott G says...
For reference here is a photo of one of my dragon fruit plants 5 weeks after the freak frost.
The brown sections are mushy. In some areas the whole stem is dead.
I will prune the living sections from these dead stems and propagate them.
My other plant is dead (brown mush right to the ground).
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Time: 27th August 2007 3:00pm
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Paul Molinari says...
I was told the plant had to grow up, then hang before it would flower, and that this could take a year or more. I planted 2 different plants; one i bought and one from clipping and 6 monthes later, i now have a flower on both.
Time: 14th September 2007 2:10pm
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Anonymous says...
Yes, I have been told the same . It's probably so.
Time: 14th September 2007 4:05pm
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Scott G says...
Here is the same Dragon Fruit 2 weeks after I blasted it with the hose jet (about 8 weeks after the frost). This removed all the brown mush, which was starting to stink as it rotted. The wounds from the frost damage have sealed up and there is no sign of disease.
This Plant is about 2 years old. It has only produced 2 flowers & fruits so far. My other slightly younger plant that was half the size of the one pictured had produced 5 flowers & fruits (all in the one season). Apart from a couple of cuttings I took it died in the frost. It was in a different location and I bought it from a different place (Bunnings) so it may have been slightly different genetically. Both plants were loosely tied to a star-picket and wept back down. Their tallest branch was a bit more than a metre high.
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Time: 17th September 2007 9:45am
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Scott G says...
The frost burnt off the Dragon Fruits leafy flesh in many places exposing some of the plants skeleton. This skeleton is tough, woody and very fibrous.
In the first picture the skeleton is still alive and is covered in a thin layer of green flesh that is exposed when scratched with a fingernail.
In the second picture the internal branching can bee seen.In the third combination picture the top shows typical roots coming from the stem.
While the lower shows roots growing from the skeleton of a badly damaged section.
After I pruned off healthy sections where the lower stem had died off completely I realised that these sections were more limp than sections connected by living stems. This tell-tale sign could serve as an indicator in future to determine what to cut off and what to leave.
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Time: 17th September 2007 10:36am
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Mohamad Darus Mansor says...
My dragon fruit trees do not flowers very well after a year of planting. Is there any fertilizer/hormones which will make my dragon fruit trees flower all the times.
Time: 3rd November 2007 6:43am
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Bronwyn says...
If frost is at all possible, I would suggest usng timber rather than star pickets to support dragon fruit. I've used 2 fence posts wired together at the rail cutouts, with a cross on top to support future dangling, following online pictures of dragon fruit orchards in Vietnam (I do not have a palm tree it can grow up). But the aerial roots need timber to cling to. Metal is too cold, and not as good for clinging to.
Time: 6th November 2007 1:54pm
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Jessie Yik says...
My Dragon Fruit Vine is over 6 foot tall and does not have any stems off it. It is just one long stem.
Is this because I am not using enough fertilizer?
Time: 7th November 2007 7:05pm
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Scott G says...
From my limited experience with Dragon Fruits I think if they are given the opportunity to climb they will and this will be at the expense of side branches. So if a Dragon Fruit is planted against a palm tree it may just get to the top before it decides to branch out.
I don think a supporting structure should be more than 1.5m tall if you want to reach all your fruits without a ladder. My experience with metal star pickets agrees with Bronwyn
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Beth Ward says...
I have purchased a single dragon fruit plant. Do I need more in order to have fruit
Time: 20th December 2007 9:27am
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Correy says...
The Dragon Fruit Pitaya is self pollinating so you will not need another variety of dragon fruit in order to get fruit.
Time: 20th December 2007 9:30am
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Bazza says...
To Dragon Fruit Growers,
I have healthy Drg Frt vines producing abundant flowers but still no fruit. i was able to make them flower by a SEASOL foliage spray. Afrter adding Pot Ash to soil/root area still no fruit. My next "Trick" is to add MANGANESE. Has anyone tried this for fruiting?.
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John says...
Bazza you wasted your money and time. Pot ash good, Seasal bad,maganese bad, better idea trace elements. My sugestion is just a good dose of all round fertilizer, with enough water, but dont keep the feet to wet. Making the plant stress a little will make want to go into survival mode therefore flowers and free will happen.
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Correy says...
Bazza, Are your dragon fruits hanging over something? If they are growing upwards I don't think they fruit only when they have reached the top and can start hanging down. Here is a photo showing this.
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Time: 7th February 2008 6:06pm
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Scott G says...
Bazza, are you sure you have a Dragon Fruit or could it be another type of night-flowering cactus that looks very similar? I have seen some cacti that are remarkably similar to Dragon Fruit (and I mistakenly grew one once).
Time: 7th February 2008 8:00pm
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Bazza says...
Dear DRG FRT Lovers,
Thank you for your informative replies & my apologies for not replying promptly as i have been laid up for a week or so. And sorry John not SEASOL but CHARLIE CARP was used to promote FLOWERING and successful too. Yes my next move to apply my reliable NPK fertiliser. Thanks again.
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John says...
hello bazza, is that cassava in the corner of your dragon fruit. my wife wants me to grow them here.
Time: 19th February 2008 7:20pm
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Bazza says...
For John SB STH Aus,
Yes John that is one of many my wife Lea grows for the root to make CASSAVA "cake" for her Asian friends. Lea is saying in the background to tell you we could have taken some down to SA for you when we had a holiday there recently to the Barossa, Kangaroo Is etc. Very easy to grow here just make sure to get the "ROOT" one for apparently there is another Cassava for garden and not large rooted.
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John says...
I think I will be growing them to soo. Indonesian Bazza. Mind eats the leaves as well. It would have been nice to eat fresh cassava again. I will be there again in 3 months and carnt wait for my own durians, soursops, jaks and plenty morejust about to start coming on.
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Joseph says...
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We are Vilagers who used to eat from what ever grow around us. One of the most popular is young Cassave leaves. Boiled leaves served with peanut sauce would be a tasty lunch. it's healthy too. The cassava itself can be cooked in various way creating delicious traditional cakes. John, if you visit us in 3 month from now, I will show you how healthy and rich we are living in natural way, in a very peacefull village...
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John says...
Hay Joseph, I'be in Wonosobo and Magalang, Central Java in July. Hay I enjoy eating Cassava leaves but not fermented cassava. Wonosobo, is also very peaceful and more beautiful than Bali. Just a little short on beer. I miss the monsoon rains. People dont believe here just how much it can rain there. I have a small plantation there full of durians and some other fruits.
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Joseph says...
Hi John,
Iam from Donomulyo, peaceful fertile village, south of Malang. How nice to have humble friends that can share eco adventure that is totally different than most Westerner have in their daily live. Just drop by anytime the door is open for you and for everybody to enjoy simple live free from the earth.
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Joseph says...
By the way,
Dragon fruits grow very well here in Donomulyo. The land is very fertile. We only have to treat them with organic compoust from the cows. They grow fast, free from morning frost. They obtain a lot of sunlight, even during rainy season.
Market is opened wide nowadays for this commodity..Anybody interested please come for free.....Thank you.
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John says...
Hay Joseph, I might just be able to go through the village yet. I carnt wait to get back to the mountains, and the fresh fruits I miss so much. I yearn for the taste of a good sirak (soursob).
Time: 4th March 2008 2:53pm
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Joseph says...
No worries John, we have some Sirzak trees, and if not enough we can have them free from neihgbours. If you are keen to travel to nearby mountains we can challange mount Kembar at 3100meter, where we can enjoy real hot spa coming from sulphur pot holes at the summit. Gidday mate.
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John says...
I might just do that Joseph, and buy you a cup of tea too. But Dieang is higher and more dangerous, and the most beauiful place in Indonesia. hehehehe its all great mate.
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garry says...
you have to pollinate the flowers your self it is done when the flower is open at its best around 9pm you tickle the flower with a fether very carefully ind spread to centre core. I have 800 plants in . i also would like any handy tips all the best and good luck
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peter says...
gary,
do you put the pollen to the centre
core of the same flower or a different one.
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Tran says...
Hi Garry,
My drangon fruit vine is about 5 years old and there is no sign of flowers ever. Please advise me how to trigger them to flowers. Currently, a dozen of young shoots just coming out.
Many thanks in advance.
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garry says...
hi it sounds to me that your plants are started from seed if so they take a lot longer then cuttings to flower. garry
Time: 3rd June 2008 8:38pm
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garry says...
we come from gingin area in qld so it is a warmer climate i think the plants need 12 hours light to flower and it is normal to have lots of shoots we keep them cut off till they reach where we want them to hank for whit dragon fruit.hope this helps
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Tran says...
Many thanks Garry. Mine were grown from cuttings however you are right. Melbourne cold weather has contributed to the slow growing plant. I am thinking of having a light bulb in summer to give it extra 3 hours light and see how I go.
Time: 4th June 2008 9:04am
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Anonymous says...
What time of the year do they fruit. How big do they nomally get before fruiting. One of my has grown about 2 feet in the last 8 weeks and is only ever in moring sun.
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Scott G says...
Mine fruit at the end of summer and into autumn. It fruited after just one summer in the ground. At almost 1m tall it had a few side branches that were hanging back down towards the ground.
Time: 17th June 2008 2:15pm
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Thanks Scott
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Graham S says...
I have had both red types in for about 18months. They grew very fast for the first six months then stopped growing. They both have since flowered once, I pollinated them and got a beautiful fruit from each. I thought maybe they have a yearly growing cycle but that doesn't seem to be it as they haven't started growing again. They are growing in sandy coastal soil about 500 metres back from the coast. and get full sun. I've tried mulch, some dynamic lifter and more water but they haven't started growing again. Any ideas?
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Scott G says...
My plants are in a terraced bed of clay loam that stays damp (unless it rains and then it's wet). In the last year I have piled on the mulch. This could be why they are growing better than previously. Even now in the middle of winter they are covered in new growth. I recommend LOTS of mulch.
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suzy4608 says...
We have 2500 cuttings in. All seem to be thriving. Biggest problem is weeds. Do any other growers have suggestions how to control woody weeds and grass other than chipping. We have them growing up trellises. Both red and white varieties. Any suggestions would be good as somewhat of a part-time venture and weeds getting the best of us.
Time: 14th July 2008 3:11pm
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Anonymous says...
Suzy, We bought some mini horses to graze among our dragonfruit. They don't touch the plants but keep all the weeds down. Don't use cattle though, cause they love eating the cactus.
Time: 19th July 2008 9:51pm
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Yvonne says...
Hi,
my husband has some questions re Dragon Fruit. Have one growing on 8ft stump of old gum tree. Yellow variety. Has 3 fruit on it a present almost ready to pick. Question: do we have to prune branches where fruit grew? Have another piece growing against a medium sized mango tree (already fruit once) should it be left there or moved?
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mark says...
hi.just wondering if someone could give me a tip. i,ve got about 30 cuttings witch i planted in top soil pots in april.and advised to place in a shaded area. Some got a bit to wet and got some rotting spots under the soil level,but have since dried. i did leave dry for two weeks before planting.but alot of the cuttings have not yet taken root /or have a poor root system.just wondering what i am doing wrong.yesterday i repotted into some potting mix to see if that will help. any adice would be graetful. thank you mark.
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We have been growing 1 dragon fruit for 3 and another for 18 months, we got the first one as small pieces and when we pruned it the second year we potted 3 pieces. We never pollinate them by hand the ants do a good job of it. Last season we got 26 kilo,s and mostly from the older one.
Our neighbour has had the same plant for 22 yrs and it had a couple of fruit on it last season, I think that they won,t bare fruit untill they startleaning over and they have a lot of water. Ours get our shower water 3 times a day.
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Time: 15th October 2008 4:51pm
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Pacific Islander says...
which one tastes better - red or white?
Time: 16th October 2008 2:09pm
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Tran says...
definitely the red one.
Time: 16th October 2008 5:50pm
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Correy says...
I would say that the Yellow Dragon Fruit is the best tasting. The taste is much stronger. The other ones I have found that you need to spice them up a bit with some lime.
Time: 16th October 2008 10:27pm
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Anonymous says...
I agree with Corey. The Red Flesh Dragon fruit is nice but the Yellow Dragon fruit is better. Also the birds had not learnt to attack them because of the thorns. With the reds, we do not get any fruits to eat if we do not cover them with flower pots.
Time: 17th October 2008 6:59pm
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Maureen says...
The yellow and blisters is stem rot cut it out with a knife making sure you clean the blade after every use take care not to cut the stem
Time: 30th October 2008 9:11pm
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RENIER says...
I DONT KNOW OF ANY OTHER DRAGON FRUIT FARMER IN SOUTH AFRICA FOR HELP.MY PLANTS HAVE GROWN A LOT BUT SEEMS TO BE STANDING STILL NOW.IT IS THE BIGINING OF THE SUMMER .I HAVE PLANTED 300 PLANTS THAT IS TW0 YAERS OLD IN ROWS
Time: 1st November 2008 4:03pm
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tompat says...
i have one plant about 5yrs, it's growing in a hanging pot under shade cloth. get's heaps of flowers and growth but no fruit. should i hand pollinate or replant in the ground.
Time: 5th November 2008 2:10pm
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tompat says...
sorry i'm new to this and have no idea how to access your replies. will have them sent to my internet this time. thanks to every one who gave me an opinion.
Time: 8th November 2008 11:48pm
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sina says...
i want to plant the yellow dragon fruit but i don`t know where can i buy the cutting. so if u know please tell me. my email is pech_sina@yahoo.com thanks
Time: 26th November 2008 10:09pm
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Tonya says...
Hi Renier, where in South Africa are you farming the dragon fruit? There seems to be a lot of information on the web to assist growers. You are the first peron I have found that is growing in South Africa. Would love to taste this fruit, but I did not know that it was available here.
Time: 27th November 2008 7:07pm
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charine says...
Hi Renier
I am currently writing an article on Dragon fruit for an agricultural magazine and would LOVE to chat to you. Please mail me at charine@bigdoor.co.za, it is quite urgent!
Thanks!
Time: 28th November 2008 12:53am
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randey watson says...
hi renier, i live in perth western australia and have been growing pitaya for about 4 years. i have both the red and white flesh varieties (the red variety with 7 fruit in its third year). i think that south africa would have similar climate to perth. i had a bit of trouble with pollination initially because they flower at night and in their native habitat they are pollinated by moths and bats. if in doubt start early in the morning and use an artists brush.
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sue says...
How do I put photo,s on this forum,
Time: 4th December 2008 2:14pm
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Correy says...
Click browse then select your photo from your harddrive folders, then write a message then click preview or submit.
Time: 11th December 2008 9:06am
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sue says...
the plant on the left is the younger one that we took off the older one. The yellow flower I love, we had a torch behind it and were surprised at had it came out.
Time: 11th December 2008 7:06pm
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sue says...
Well the photo didn,t work so obviously you guy,s won,t have a clue what my above post means.
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Time: 11th December 2008 7:15pm
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Barbara says...
Just planted a red dragon fruit bought from Tropical Fruit World. Have been looking at photos on this site. Some have tied up their plant and others haven't. Ours is against our back fence leaning against a post. Any need to tie it up? And if so, what do you use - rags, wire, ....?
Thank you.
Time: 24th January 2009 4:35pm
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peter says...
for them to fruit they are supposed to grow up something then the arms arch over and hang down and the flowers
form on these.
in your case it will probably grow up
your post and fence and arch over for
your neighbors.
Time: 24th January 2009 5:07pm
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Koentadi Joseph says...
Hi all,
I fixed 100 concrete post for 400 plant (in 4 sides) of Dragon fruits attached on it. First harvest last Dec. I got more than 1 tons of ripe fruits.
I'll give you more images of my Supper Red Dragon fruit from my home town in Donomulyo, Malang.
Very interesting to grow for business.
Cheers,
Time: 13th February 2009 12:31pm
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Lou says...
Hi Everybody
Could someone please help me I am looking for a dragon fruit plant in Durban SA. Love this site!
Time: 21st February 2009 6:55am
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Wayne says...
Hello from Queensland Australia Lou, when I saw SA I thought South Australia, crikey, you are a long way away.
I honestly do not know how you would obtain such a plant but surely they must be grown in your district.
I trust that you do know they are very easy to strike, simply break off one of the stems and plant it in a striking mix.
Time: 21st February 2009 5:49pm
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Barbara says...
Hi Aaron,
I know these plants like dry feet, are they in a dry area? Frost could be a problem as they don't like cold much. Typically, they like sandy, well-drained soils. Hope this helps.
Time: 23rd February 2009 1:15pm
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Lou says...
Hi Wayne
Thanks man I found one this morning by fate, someone have discarded one that was growing in their garden and left it on the sidewalk for the trucks to remove, when I droped my daughter at school this morning I saw it and picked it up. See picture included it is now planted in my back garden. Can you believe that there are people that dont know what it is. This one is still bearing the fruit and is about the size of my palm. Can still not get over it I have been surshing for a year in SA and only know of one other person that have a small plant. These people that through it out did not have a idia to what it is to them it was a ugly plant that took up space. Their los my gain.
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Time: 26th February 2009 9:53pm
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Jantina says...
What a wonderful find, good luck.
Time: 27th February 2009 8:00am
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Wayne says...
That is fantastic news Lou, it must have been that good karma we sent you. Read this whole thread about looking after it as others will know a lot more about that than I do. May I suggest you take a cutting and strike it to give you a second plant for pollination, or do you have multiple plants now.
Time: 27th February 2009 1:06pm
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Jacqueline says...
Our solution to supporting the pitaya was a 2.5 metre plastic sewer pipe (about 8 inch diameter) dug into the sandy soil and half filled with sand for support - no concrete needed. We then wrapped a sheet of reed/bamboo screen around the pipe to give the plant a surface to grip onto.
We also remove low and annoying branches to keep the "canopy" shape and for easy access when feeding the plant, picking fruit and admiring the flowers close up :)
Other than producing loads of fruit, this amazing plant has the added benefit of now being home to a family of finches who have nested inside its predator-unfriendly branches. Excellent!
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Time: 10th March 2009 4:05pm
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peter says...
jacqueline,
looks good.
how much do you water it?
how old is it?
Time: 10th March 2009 5:06pm
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Polly says...
Thanks for the idea Jacqueline. I had been putting off erecting a wooden frame for mine and this seems so much easier. Thanks again
Time: 11th March 2009 12:10pm
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au0rey says...
wow what a tree? shrub!
Time: 17th March 2009 11:48am
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Barbara says...
Hi all,
I struck hundreds of seedlings from a beautiful red fruit just on New Year and gave most of them away to friends...silly.
I then went on holiday for 2 weeks south and no-one bothered to water them. I now only have 2 babies left. There are also many of these cacti inhabiting large trees around the island but no fruit...lots of flowers though. To pollinate them, do you use flowers from the same plant, or must they be from another plant? Trevor Stephens (Dragon Fruit Wine maker) told me they would need pollinating, but I forgot this vital question. Can anyone help here?
Time: 20th March 2009 10:28am
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Koentadi Joseph says...
Dear All,
I am coming back with more images for yr info. few days after I took these pictures I harvest more and more fruits and this will last years..That's why I used concrete poles because bamboo or even wooden stick don't last long.
As you see I planted 4 plants on 4 side of the concrete poles. On top of the poles I used old tires to lay off the plants.
Hi Lou,
In fact I have some healthy young plants to deliver to you, but I really don't have any idea how..
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Jacqueline says...
Hi Peter,
Sorry for the late reply. We planted this about six years ago and water twice a week during the heat of summer. The rest of the year, depending on rainfall, we water once a week.
There are pieces we've discarded and left on the ground that get absolutely no water from us that have sent roots out and - although they're not thriving - have been alive for years!
Time: 20th March 2009 12:26pm
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sunil says...
Dear Jacqueline,
Its wonderful to see your plant.
I am also thinking to use 4inch or 6 inch plastic pipes as you are successful.
It looks to me the place you are growing is quiet dry.What is the maximum temperature during these days
How often do you water them.
Is this yellow variety?
How about fertilzers etc you are using
I would like your valuable experience.
You can see where I stand with my 7 plants pictured.
regds,
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Time: 30th March 2009 1:29pm
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Lou says...
Hi Wayne
No man if the cactus fairy is on your side you don
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Jacqueline says...
Hi Sunil - Ours is a red fruit. Conditions here are very dry generally, we average about 340 mm of rainfall annually. We water twice a week through our hot dry summer (average temp is 36 but gets up to mid 40's), and once a week through the less severe dry spells the rest of the year. We never have a frost here. Ours is very free-draining sandy soil, we added NPK, blood and bone and blended manure when we planted and have since given it blood and bone and NPK a couple of times a year.
That's it...we are certainly not dragon fruit experts, just lucky amateurs who have found this to be a very low maintenance plant that pretty much takes care of itself. Pollination is left entirely to the bees, who absolutely swarm over the flowers before they close up in the mornings.
Hope that helps. Best of luck.
Time: 31st March 2009 11:06pm
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Joyce says...
Jaqueline of Kalbarri and Randy of Perth, would you swap babaco cuttings for dragon fruit cuttings? The babaco is similar to pawpaw with a slightly fizzy lemony flavour with a hint of mango, very juicy fruit which hangs like paw paw, hates easterly winds and doesn't like being water logged. Phone 92997828
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aneh says...
i dont want to call your number incase you have already got the cuttings you needed joyce but i would be delighted to swap some dragonfruit cuttings for babaco cuttings. if you are still interested that is. i have both white and red fleshed variety.
Time: 8th May 2009 9:15pm
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randey says...
hello joyce. currently i have about 20 white flesh and about 10 red flesh dragon plants. my red "mother" plant has 15 fruit around 1/2 to 3/4 kilo each and as you know taste out of this world. and yes i would love to swap for a babaco. i had a babaco years ago that fruited prolifically but suffered a frost induced early retirement. if you want to do a swap send me a line or two. randey.
Time: 9th May 2009 8:45am
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Wayne says...
"and as you know taste out of this world"
So thank - you - very - much Randey, Finally my plant produced 3 fruit this year which I looked after with loving care. Then wife and myself went away for a weekend and came home to find them gone, our son had given them to our neighbour because he doesn't like them. The neighbour went out of her way to come over and thanked us for the beautiful fruit ---- sigh!!!!! kids
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Liz says...
Does yellow dragon fruit need cross-pollination? (and if so, from what?)
...I've ordered a yellow pitaya (Selenicereus megalanthus? ...one page says that and one says Hylocereus megalanthus???) from Daleys, but I'm not sure from the description whether that one needs cross-pollination.
The red-skinned fruits all seem to be from Hylocereus sp. - H. undatus for the white flesh, and H. polyrhyzus for the red flesh ...anyone know whether those will cross-pollinate the yellow ones? :-)
Aneh / Randey - would you be interested in selling some red/white-fleshed dragon fruit cuttings? Where in Perth are you?
Thanks,
Liz :-)
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randey says...
hello liz, i am just around the corner from you in east cannington. although i dont normally sell my dragons i will sell one of each to you because your a local. i also dont normally give my number out but just this once. its 94519339. maybe i will hear from you sson. randey.
Time: 10th May 2009 9:38am
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randey says...
hello wayne, my condolences on your loss. maybe next time you can give the kids away the next flowering season.and to look at the other side of the taste spectrum i took a small slice into work to give to a colleague and was told that it was utterly tasteless. there you go. i dare say that he would be extremely boring to cook for. randey
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Joyce says...
Hello Randey and anyone else who replied to my message re exchange for babaco cuttings. Have been in hospital but will definitely reply to everyone as soon as I empty my mail box of flotsom and jetwhatever. My plants are currently fruiting but pictures are in the too hard basket.
Time: 14th May 2009 9:10am
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Toby says...
Hi Joyce, I just picked up a dragonfruit from Joe at Tass 1 Trees last weekend. He's selling the red skin/red flesh variety. We've also got one of the red skin/white flesh that my wife recently got from diggers club.
However, I've been looking for babaco for quite a while and haven't been able to find them anywhere in WA. Can you tell me where you got them or would you be willing to sell me a cutting as well if you have any spare? I'd love to try one or two. My dragonfruit are still small and therefore I've got no cuttings to exchange.
I'd also appreciate it if anyone can tell me if they've seen the yellow skin/white flesh dragonfruit anywhere in Perth, I wouldn't mind trying one of those too.
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randey says...
toby. liz told me that she has a yellow dragon on order, maybe she will be able to help you
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randey says...
hello joyce, hope you are recovering well. i called you, probably while you were in so no answer. no worries. i have a few dragons both red and white flesh and would love to swap with you. i can give you a call if you let me know what your home hours are like or you can call me. the number is in my note to liz.
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sunil says...
My new Dragon fruit Plant just one month
old has become yellow? is it due to
heavy sunshine?
If it is heavy sunshine do we have to
provide shade?
Veterans, Please help
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Patricia says...
I have four dragon fruit plants which are healthy and growing vigorously, however I have only have one flower from them. (no fruit) I obtained the first plant three years ago and the rest are babies (cut offs from the mother plant). How can I get the plants to flower and then hopefully fruit. I water every day and they are in full sun (very hot in winter).
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Time: 29th May 2009 6:33pm
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Lucy says...
This is the only flower from 5 year old dragon plant. I was given a cutting about 5 years ago and I can't remember what variety it is (red or white).It would be nice if you could give me a hint please.
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randey says...
patricia and lucy i live in perth and suffer the heat you speak of, so a suggestion if i may.the dragon is as susceptible to sunburn as you and i are. when it is stinking hot we put on a hat and cover up so too the dragon needs to have shade during the really hot days otherwise we will both burn. usually 70-90% shade cloth will suffice. i dont know if your plants have got blisters on them but if so that is sunburn. the blister will eventually leave a crater in the leaf that should heal over (too many craters and the leaf can snap off).also dont go too overboard with the fertiliser. dragons will respond to a well rotted animal fertiliser such as sheep or cow poo. also you dont say if your dragons are potted or in the ground. it can make a difference. good luck ladies
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Lucy says...
Hi Randey,
Many thanks for your hints. Good on you.
Lucy.
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lily says...
i had planted dragon fruit for almost 2 years but it still can't bear fruits even the flowers are so many.why?How can i do to helps the tree for the pollination?
Time: 3rd June 2009 10:18pm
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Ken says...
I am growing my Dragon Fruit up 2 bessar block verandah cplumns on the Sunshine Coast. One doing well one not - water? @nd year 6 fruit on 1, 1 on the other, now with mealy bugs. I get the brown rot - on some sections - unrelated to frost damage.
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Time: 6th June 2009 10:38pm
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adly says...
att: lily sabah
I manage to make the plant bloom by using foliar fertilizer (self formulation). 29 flower buds after 3 days, 50 buds after 6 days. in 2 weeks time the flowers appear. unfortunately only 18 turn into fruits. e-mail me at adyshah@gmail.com I am going to sabah soon. Hope u can try the fertilizer
Time: 7th June 2009 12:05pm
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adlyshah@gmail.com (correction)
Time: 7th June 2009 12:09pm
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patricia gad says...
I have a Drgon Fruit plant for the last four years that has been giving fruit.I loved to look at the flowers at night, but never knew what the pink was after the flower fell.One day a young girl from Vera Cruz was walking down the street and told me it is a fruit.That was last year.I t was the frist time I tried the furit.I love it .I've heard tha you can make tea with the flowers .Can someone tell me how to do that?
Time: 10th June 2009 6:51am
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amanda says...
I wonder...maybe a solar light at nite would help attract the moths for pollination? What pollinates a dragon fruit in it's native environment?
My grandad used to boil up meat in his glasshouse in NZ to bring in the blow flies to pollinate the tomatoes - worked a treat! He was Irish... ;)
Ants do a lot of pollinating for me here too.
Time: 10th June 2009 9:39am
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randey says...
hi amanda, in its native mexico habitat the dragons are usually pollinated by moths and bats and living in the west like me i become the moth.the flowers usually open at night and must be crossed before they start wilting early in the morning. their window of opportunity is quite small. to make sure that they do get pollinated i get up at about 5-6 am and using a clean unused artists brush spread the pollen around. i have a 90% success rate. my red has still got about 4 fruit on it and its nearly the middle of winter.
Time: 11th June 2009 6:26pm
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randey says...
forgot to mention that i have just potted up a whole swag of hylocerus undata (white flesh) and will be putting them on the market in about 2-3 months when they have successfuly taken root.
Time: 11th June 2009 6:59pm
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amanda says...
Hey Randey - I have a white too - it's a machine! Made the fatal mistake of planting it in between the rain water tanks - which are 'plastic'..duhh.. it can't stick onto them - but seems to love the afternoon shade.
I had a great business idea for anyone out there who can make fishing nets - custom made one's to throw over our ugly rainwater tanks so that we can use the vertical space for growing and aesthetic purposes - and the lovely cool root-run underneath???
Time: 11th June 2009 9:57pm
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Toby says...
Hi randey,
I'll be interested in your hylocerus undatas when they're ready. Also any of the yellow ones if you've got them.
Time: 12th June 2009 4:08pm
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randey says...
hi toby, i have plenty of whites and will let you know when they are ready. as for the yellow, liz said that she is or has ordered one . i assume that you are talking about the selenicrerius megalanthus which has a higher sugar content than the red dragon.
Time: 15th June 2009 10:38pm
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randey says...
hey amanda, why not just use 50% shade cloth, much more readily available and the weave allows for the epiphyte roots to take hold. one other suggestion to utilise these roots to your and the plants advantage is to use a solid timber or concrete post buried up to 600mm into the ground with something like an enlarged rose hoop attached to the top. wrap some hessian or similar around the post and fill a container with water and fertiliser and fit the hessian into the pot. as the hessian draws up the mixture the roots get a double helping. have seen it working.
Time: 15th June 2009 10:48pm
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amanda says...
Randey - that's a very clever idea! I was going to relocate the plant - but the idea (for me) was to keep it near the back door so that I can leave the outside light on at night when it flowers - hopefully this will attract the night bugs for pollination..??
The tanks are 2x 25,000 litres but I reckon I could sew up that shadecloth ok. It would keep the water cool too. Thanks for the tip :)
Time: 16th June 2009 11:33am
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randey says...
hey amanda,my nephew is going up to gero on friday to see his sister and asked if i would like to accompany him.if you would like i could possibly bring some plants up with me. if that meets with your approval give me a call on 08 9451 9339 after 5pm nightly and tell me where in gero you are. hope to meet you soon.
Time: 17th June 2009 7:25am
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randey says...
to anyone who is interested try this website. www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop or google dragon fruit in the negev desert ( as in israel) definitely worth a look.
Time: 17th June 2009 8:11am
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Ian says...
my white fresh variety is very sweet. I think because I have bore water and I notice that calcium accumulated on taps around the house.
Time: 20th July 2009 6:18pm
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amanda says...
Hi Ian...do u get those brown bore stains too? Our bore in Dianella had a fair bit of sulphur and iron...my pot plants never looked so happy in all their lives! (pity about the iron stains all over the house tho'..)
Time: 20th July 2009 10:08pm
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Ian says...
Hi Amanda,
Yes, I have the same thing. With the stains, I used AJAX PROFESSIONAL MOULD REMOVER to spray, walk away then came back 1 hour later to wash with water it worked realy well.
Time: 21st July 2009 7:18pm
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amanda says...
Hi Ian - I don't live there anymore (thank god..too many hoons) How do your plants like it? Have u ever had the water tested?
(BTW - shower power great for the window stains - and biodegradable too)
Time: 21st July 2009 7:26pm
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Ian says...
Hi Amanda,
No I have not thought about having water tested. I should. Thanks for the hints on Stain removal.
Time: 22nd July 2009 9:34am
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randey says...
to anyone who is interested, i have potted a whole swag of hylocerus undata (white flesh dragons)and am about to take them to a weekend market
Time: 3rd August 2009 11:24pm
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ellen says...
May I ask where is the weekend market located, Randey?
Time: 4th August 2009 12:21am
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randey says...
sorry ellen about taking so long to get back to you. i live in perth so it would be at the canning vale weekend markets. i take it that you live in the eastern states
Time: 9th August 2009 4:11pm
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Ellen says...
`darn; I have to missed out Randey, since I am in Sydney's vicinity :-(
Time: 9th August 2009 4:30pm
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi all,
There is a good growing note on Dragon fruit on the link:
http://www.nt.gov.au/d/Content/File/p/Fruit/FG1_pitaya_dragon_fruit.pdf
Time: 10th August 2009 9:35am
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Dinh says...
Hi Jujube,
Do you still have the Jujube, how big and how much are they ?
Time: 23rd August 2009 12:01am
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roel amon says...
Dear Bazza,
use chicken manure for rapid growth of plant because it is rich in potassium and organic,for more increase in growth use fertilizers high in nitrogen N30, P10, K10. to increase fruit use fertilizers with higher potassium & posporus (P and K) and no nitrogen (N) fertilize once a month do it for four months then stop.too much fetilizer will kill the plant
Time: 25th September 2009 4:32pm
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roel amon says...
Dear John,
Here in our country we grow cassava plants by cutting the stems..im from the philippines by the way..it is easy to grow and fruit will pop from the gruond once ready to harvest
Time: 25th September 2009 4:39pm
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PeterC says...
Hi Joseph,
I have been to Malang (my brother worked there for a few years - what a great place
Time: 1st October 2009 9:21pm
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Justin says...
ahh Malang the only place i could find whiskey at a decent price around Surabaya haha!
Do they still have the public fruit garden there?
Time: 22nd October 2009 12:29am
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Michael says...
Are there any problems with growing different types of dragon fruit on the same trellis ? I have multiple cuttings of the red and yellow dragon fruits but have limited space to grow them seperately .
Time: 30th November 2009 11:07pm
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peter says...
hi michael,
i think you will find that if you are growing the yellow variety you need
a red next to it for pollination.
Time: 1st December 2009 8:57am
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Michael says...
Cool thanks Peter
Time: 1st December 2009 1:28pm
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juanita says...
Hi roel amon,
Do dragon fruits grow well in Phils? Is it a popular fruit among the locals?
Time: 20th December 2009 11:53am
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Greg says...
Hi guys,
I am a little disappointed in my dragon fruit growing enterprises. I purchased a Pitaya (I think it was from Daleys, but might have been from elsewhere). I took some cuttings, and ended up with 8 plants, all of which are over 2m (one is 8m) high, all but the big one are weeping and for the last 2 years I have had 5 - 10 flowers on each tree. The problem is that they flower at night, and for a little yellow fruit at the base of the flower which falls off after a few days. I am now thinking that I have a night flowering cactus. How do I confirm this?
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Kim says...
Greg,
I had a flowering cactus once which I could not tell the difference between that and my red dragon fruit. When they are flowering, have a look at the flowers just after sunrise before the flower closes up. There should be a lot of bees around the flowers. Fruit forming and then dropping off sounds like they have not been pollinated. I can give you cuttings if you can come to greenbank.
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Byron says...
Hi Reneer
Im also growing dragon fruit here in SA
I only have about 10 Big plants and about 100 small
they are the white variety.
I havent got flowers yet
I would love trade cuttings if you interested
Time: 11th January 2010 3:59am
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Lou says...
Hi Byron
Where in South Africa are you. I'm in Pinetown. And Reneer you to pal give me your handicap, wher are you I have 10 plants first year and have acsess to more the red one. cant wait to hear from you guys I thought I was alone.
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greengirl says...
Hello
Can anybody please tell me what is wrong with my dragonfruit plants? They were left in the sun a few weeks ago and I noticed pale patches on the sun-facing sides of the plants. The whole side was pale yellow on the most damaged plant. I guessed that they were sunburnt and put them in the shade to recover and gave them a drink (I think the only water I have given them since the weather warmed up). A few days afterward I noticed black spots appearing on the pale patches, which brought rot to mind, but I wasn't sure how they could because they'd only been watered once after the sun damage. There was nothing visibly wrong with them before the sun damage. Now they look terrible, but some of the top growth looks fine.
What do people think? Rot or extreme sun damage?
And most importantly, what should I do now? Cut off the good parts and repot them? Just try and save what I can? I'm guessing the bulk of the plants are unsavable.
Thanks for any advice.
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Time: 13th January 2010 4:03pm
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amanda says...
Hi greengirl - i want to hear others thoughts too...as I had the same problems growing mine in a pot too.
I put it in the herb garden where it got a lot more water and afternoon shade and it went mad - so much so I had to chop it all out.
The pic is what we took out several MONTHS ago - I thought it would die and then compost it. It's had no water at all (obviously) and it's still going! But u can see the sunburn on the older parts looks a bit like yours.
Anyway - I don't really know - but I would rescue some good bits and maybe pop one in the ground to be safe - until u know what it is?
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Time: 13th January 2010 10:28pm
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adly says...
if u plant using a bigger stem, it should produce flower in 6 month time. provided, u plant correctly.
the tip, use red brick b4 planting. never use chicken dung. use organic fertilizer to get sweeter fruit.
i treat my neighbour plant with homemade fertilizer. the plant produce 50 flower bud but only 17 turn into fruit. they are very sweet.
Time: 14th January 2010 1:43pm
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Byron says...
hey Lou
Send me your number
I will be in Durban end of Jan (to decor Psy trance Party)
I can bring you a cutting
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Time: 14th January 2010 4:58pm
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Byron says...
Hey Lou
I only just saw your other post's
how do we get hold of each other?
Time: 14th January 2010 5:02pm
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roel says...
hi miss juanita, as far as i know dragon fruits grow well here in our country, in fact we already have several farms of dragon fruit in different provinces, but its first popular in our province which is cavite, i started planting in our backyard and base on my observation it really grows fast i think about an inch a week..how about in your country mam?? hope to hear from you soon thanks for asking,take care and godbless
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Michael says...
How is everyone's dragon fruit coming along? Mine's in a pot and so far have 3 fruits on it. Just this morning 11 new buds appear out of no where . I'm so excited.
Time: 19th January 2010 9:01pm
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Lucky you. Mine is not doing well. I moved the vines from the pot to the ground and it has not recovered much.
I hope yours will have lots of fruits this year.
Time: 19th January 2010 9:15pm
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Michael says...
Hi Nguyet,
I also moved some dragon fruit from 1 pot into the ground. I saw a youtube clip from America with this dragon fruit structure which I'm trying to copy.
PS - Mine jujube has fruited but the fruits are still quite small
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Well built structure and the vines look very healthy too.
BTW, your Li jujube fruits will be ready in around end of Feb or March. You will enjoy them, very sweet, crunchy and totally diferent to the dried one.
Time: 19th January 2010 9:56pm
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Michael says...
Hi Daley's and all,
Where can I get my hands on some cuttings of the pink fleshed dragon fruit?
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Time: 21st January 2010 1:16pm
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Diana says...
Hi Michael,
Paradise nursery sells them, but sold out for the moment. http://www.paraplants.com/food.htm).I forgot that one in the list I posted the other day. There is another dragonfruit cuttings seller in it:
After Daley's, my favourite sites for Queensland and subtropical NSW are:
Information:
http://www.greenharvest.com.au/ (and seeds, plants, books, pest control)
http://www.bogi.org.au/ (and seeds, plants, garden products, books etc- but not web ordering)
http://www.northeystreetcityfarm.org.au/nursery.htm (and seeds and plants- but not web ordering)
http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/ (of course)
Seeds:
http://www.greenpatchseeds.com.au/ (also plants)
http://www.edenseeds.com.au/
http://www.theitaliangardener.com.au/
http://www.4seasonsseeds.com.au/
Plants:
http://www.forbiddenfruitsnursery.com/products/ (scroll across catalogue pages to get to plants)
http://www.earthcare.com.au/ (ginger, ginger relatives and tropical root crops)
http://www.aussiedragonfruit.com/
http://www.gourmetlimes.com/
http://heartgarden.com.au/
http://www.allrareherbs.com.au/
http://www.herbalistics.com.au/shop/
http://www.herbnursery.com.au/
http://cactusisland.com.au/ (coconuts, some other food plants)
Thanks,
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Nev says...
Growing plants in rows 3m apart on timber posts. Going to put up rails. How high should I put them.
Time: 21st January 2010 6:14pm
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Michael says...
Wow thanks Diana for all those sites
Time: 21st January 2010 9:40pm
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Michael says...
Hi Diana,
I checked out paraplants.com and the Dragon fruit they sell is the pink dragon fruit with white flesh which is what I have already and which Daley also sells. The one that I'm after is reddish green on the outside with neon pink flesh.In America this variety is called " American Beauty".
The website belows sells 25 different name variety of Dragon fruits . I was looking for an Australian supplier of this pink flesh variety.
http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/dragon/index.htm
Time: 21st January 2010 9:59pm
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Violet_Cactus says...
Wow, those cultivars are amazing!
But Daleys sell a beautiful Dragon fruit with red skin and red flesh.
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I would love to grow David Bowie in my back yard! Physical Graffiti looks amazing too...
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Michael says...
Can anyone help me here ? I've already made my trellis so just needing some good cuttings of the pick fleshed variety.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Why don't you just order one from Daley's?
Scroll down the page and you'll see the picture.
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/Pitaya.htm
If you do order one, spare me a cutting! :)
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Michael says...
Hi Violet,
Daley's only stock the pink with white flesh,red with red flesh and yellow with white flesh. I have all of these already. The one I'm after is the neon pink flesh which no-one seems to have in Australia or even heard much about it.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Michael, that neon pink flesh is *real*? I had always thought those pictures were just the red-fleshed one colour-enhanced in Photoshop!
Amazing. Now I want one too.
Nev, if you're still here, I am posting some pictures of Dragonfruit farms in Vietnam so that you can get an idea of how tall they grow under commercial cultivation.
Also here's a picture of what I think *might* be a neon pink Hylocereus undatus Guatemalensis.
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Violet_Cactus says...
By the way, if anyone out there wants any seeds of red-fleshed red-skinned dragonfruit, I now have some to swap.
angavar at yahoo dot com
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Michael says...
Hi Violet,
Very nice pictures of the Dragon fruit. I have tried all the common variety in Australia but not the neon pink flesh one which looks so pretty in all the photos.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Michael are there more than just three varieties in Australia? The only ones I am aware of are the usual ones:
1)Yellow Skin/White Flesh,
2)Red Skin/White Flesh (aka Pearl)
3)Red Skin/Red Flesh.
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Michael says...
Hi Violet,
That was what i thought as well just those three types. That was until I read other fruit forums from the USA and discovered there was many variations of the dragon fruit including the pink neon flesh variety.After seeing the pictures I really want to try growing it .
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I wondered could someone please send me some photos about how to hang these stems? as I am having troubles to do it.
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peter says...
hi micheal,
are you interested in seeds for
the pink fleshed dragon fruit.
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Michael says...
Thanks Peter - I'm after cuttings and not seeds .
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Peter, I'd like to get some of your seeds if you can guarantee they are the pink-fleshed ones, and not the red or white fleshed ones!
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peter says...
hello violet,
i havnt got seeds myself.
i am looking for cherimoya seeds
and have found some on an overseas site
which also say they have the pink fleshed dragons.
i emailed them and they are available.
i can order some for you if you want.
do you still want a yellow cutting.
there seems to be some conflicting
reports about the yellow needing a red
for pollination. would you know which
is true.
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Greg says...
Hi Kim,
Looks like they have finished flowering for the year, so rather than waiting another year to see if they are getting pollinated, I would like to take you up on your offer to get some cuttings from you. My e-mail address is verrall@hotmail.com, could you perhaps send me your phone number and my wife and I could arrange to pop down some time.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your kind offer of seeds.
I don't need a yellow cutting as I do have a yellow dragonfruit plant (from Daley's!). I have never heard of yellows needing a red for pollination and it doesn't seem logical. I think yellows would be fine with other yellows.
Incidentally, if you're importing dragonfruit seeds into Australia you might be interested in the AQIS ICON import information page:
http://tinyurl.com/yahasvx
And here's the cherimoya page:
http://tinyurl.com/ycjegpa
Best of luck getting the seeds!
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Michael says...
Just thought I share some photos of my dragon fruit taken this afternoon. It's pink with white flesh and the taste is very sweet.There is currently 4 fruits with 10 more buds forming. From the last two years I have a 100% success rate from flower to fruit. There's no secret to it just that the original cuttings was from a proven plant that has always flower than fruited. People who say the fruit is bland haven't tried a home grown yet . The taste is 10 times better being picked off your own vine then one purchase from the shops.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Wow, Well done. I agree with you about the taste. A friend of mine said his white flesh dragon fruits are very sweet too. What do you feed your vine with and how often? How about water?. Do you have to polinate the flowers by hand? and do you set up light at night?
Many thanks in advance.
Happy growing.
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Michael says...
Hi Nguyet,
I normally just use cow or sheep manure mixed with grass clippings once every 2 months. Recently I've been using a product called Azomite after seeing a clip from youtube. It wasn't cheap but I will try anything once. From the same dragon fruit vine growing in a pot last year I had four flowers and four fruit. This year since using the product I currently have 4 fruits will 10 flower buds emerging . I'm not sure if the product made the difference but I'm trialing it on my other dragon fruits before I can confirm if the product did really help. I did some research on how oftern the growers in Vietnam water their vines and it's once a week but only from the top and let the water drip down to the roots. I have been following this practice on my vines. I am lucky in that I don't have to hand pollinate my flowers and the success rate is so far 100%. Suprisingly the red fruit in my picture was the first flower to emerge and somehow it pollinated itself. The setting up of lights at night is a common practice by the commercial growers in Vietnam to encourage flower budding after the first lot of fruit. It would be too costly for us home growers to do the same thing. I just use solar christmas lights on my vine to make it look pretty at night and hopefully attract moths and night creatures to my vine .
Did you know that there are so many variety of dragon fruits out there? Attached are two variety I came across on the internet which is not so common .
One is yellow reddish skin with pink flesh and the other yellow /green skin with white flesh.
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peter says...
hi mickhael.
plants look good.
id also like to know all the answers to jujubes questions as well as what sort of soil you use. ( good drainage or
some water holding capabilities).
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Michael says...
Hi All,
FYI - Attached is a trellis used by some commercial growers in the US. It's not very tall and the cross is some thin metal stick .
I also worked out why some variety like mine which is the Vietnamese dragon fruit with white flesh requires no had pollination and while others do . Apprently it depends on the variety and the flower . Some flowers are self fertile and some requires cross pollination. The attached picture explains itself ( Use the picture as a guide to check your flowers to see if it requires cross pollination )
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peter says...
so what would you say the yellow
dragon fruit is?
self fertile or not.
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Michael says...
Hi Peter,
Is the anthers longer than the stigma ?(Needs cross pollination ) or are they the same height ?( self fertile )
I've never seen the flower of the yellow dragon fruit yet as my vine is still small and growing so I can't help you yet.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Many thanks for the hints, I am going to apply your method to my vine.
Regarding to more varieties of dragon fruits, I did not realise that there are many varieties out there. I hope one day some one will import them into the courntry so they will be available for sale in the very near future.
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for showing us how to differentiate between dragon self fertile and Needs cross pollination flowers.
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peter says...
jujube,
it was micheal that posted those
pictures of the differant antlers.
micheal,
i was asking because i havnt had flowers
on mine either. know i know what to look for. (thanks).
im just about to put one in the ground
and some in large pots.
what sort of soil do you use for them
(good drainage or some water holding capabilities).
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Michael says...
Hi Peter,
I would use good drainage as the roots can get rotten easily in damp soil. Use plenty of manure and you should be fine.
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peter says...
ok. thanks.
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Michael says...
Hi Peter,
Besides my dragon fruit in the pot I am also growing it in the ground. Attached are two types of structure I have created . I also have it growing up an olive tree.
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Nev says...
Thanks looks to be about 2m. How exactly should you pollinate with a feather brush or hand. Do you use the pollen of the same flower or a different one?
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Lyn says...
Hi Michael,
May I know how old is your dragonfruit plant which has the fruits and how do you know that the fruit is ripe to pick? How often do you water the plant? They look amazing. It's very rewarding to get fruits like that. Well done!
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Michael says...
Hi Lyn,
My dragon fruit in the pot is about 3 years old. It fruited after about a year . However it really depends on how quickly your vine is growing. If you give it lots of manure when starting off it should grow very quickly. They need to be a certain size before it starts to give out flowers so the more quickly you can fatten up your vines the sooner you'll get fruits. In terms of picking the fruit I normally wait until mine turns the deepest colour and leave it on for another 3 weeks ( Mine is the deep red/pink with white flesh ) . After picking I would leave mine in a bowl for a day or two just to really ripen the fruit. Dragon fruit tastes best being put into the fridge over night and eat it nice and cold the next day. I water my vines once a week and only from the top and let the water trickle down.
Dragon fruit needs to be a certain size before it starts to flower. When starting out give it lots of organic manure to fatten it up and make it grow quickly . Once it reaches a certain size apply a 0-10-10 based fertiliser in spring and you should get flowers by summer time. 0-10-10 based fertiliser is hard to find but you can search the internet for suppliers.
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Lyn says...
Hi Micheal,
Thanks for the info. Do you mean they have to be a certain height before they flower or the plant has to be a certain thickness? I feed mine cow manure but not sure how much to apply as I'm worried I may kill it if overdone. How big is your pot and how much manure and how often do you feed your dragonfruit plant?
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Anonymous says...
I just got a dragon fruit plant that was not grown from a seed but from another plants cell, it is in a sterile glass container. When i transplant it how do i take care of it?
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Anonymous says...
The plant has a lot of growing to do it is the size of a teenager's small finger, so i have time. i just want to know how to take care of it even though the container has a gel in the bottom that will keep the plant growing for up to a year. I just need to know it i could grow it inside a large room, or i absolutley have to grow it outside.
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Anonymous says...
ok i'll admit it, i got the plant 2 days ago. its really small. but the good thing is its straight from a lab and it already has a branch!
This is a great site, i will keep coming back. i think this is a great resource.
Thanks
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Anonymous says...
I will put up a picture later. just if anyone has never seen anything like a plant in a glass container.
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Anonymous says...
Here are some pictures i just took. i will add more when it grows in a few months.
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Anonymous says...
Trying again with 2 instead of 3 pictures.
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Anonymous says...
well i'm trying one at a time now.
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Anonymous says...
ok well, i guess it's too big.
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Anonymous says...
Ok one more try.
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Anonymous says...
failed. too big.
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Anonymous says...
last try.
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M Helac says...
Hi there if you could help me I haw dragon fruit its flower thre time in couple monts but all flower got yelow and fall of I live on Bribie Isl brisbane
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randey says...
hi, the flower usually opens at night but depending on the temperature can open during the day. once it has opened allow a couple of hours for the pollen to set ( goes powdery) then using a clean artists brush pollinate the stamen. you will know within about a week if you have been successful when the flower droops and the base stays green. another factor to consider is if the plant is still young (1-2 years old)
quite often the flowers will only set if the plant has passed into its 3rd year. of all the dragons that i have, ranging from 6 years to 1 year the average flower set is 3 years on. also dont forget to keep up the well rotted manure and wetting agent and in hot climates some form of shade. hope this is of some help to you
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Adam says...
Ok its me the guy with the plant in the glass container. I would like to know how to take care of a dragon fruit plant. i had never heard of one before i got this one. i need help!
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Greg Verrall says...
Are these Pitaya flowers, or are they night flowering cactus?
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randey says...
you have the right of it. they are pitaya flowers and right at the point of pollinating which can be done using an artists brush to transfer the pollen from the anthers ( the long spindly outer parts) to the stigma (the single stemmed part that lays at the bottom of the flower). check to be sure that the pollen is dry (usually once the pollen is ready it tends to fall off the anthers and collects at the bottom of the flower on the petals)then transfer the pollen onto the stigma. and now pray to your god for a successful take. if the base of the flower stays green for a week or so chances are that you will end up with a dragon. if not the whole thing will turn yellow, wilt and then die and fall off. good luck
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Michael says...
Wouldn't you want one of these for your birthday or Christams ?
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
I wish to have one of those in my house. It looks to me the pic was taken in VN.
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QUOTE "Michael says...
Wouldn't you want one of these for your birthday or Christams ?"END QUOTE
How do they do that?
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John Mc says...
I got mine from a dragon fruit farmer closing down his business near Newcastle. These plants were transplanted about 3 months ago and are powering on beautifully. They are suppose to be red with white centre.
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John I. says...
Michael, where did you find the picture?
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Michael says...
Sorry I meant Christmas
It was one of many photos I got from the net when I was researching into Dragon fruits. Not sure about the site but I thought it was such a clever idea in the first place. You get to taste the fruit and plant the cuttings as well so at least you know what you're planting . It looks like it's being taken somewhere in Vietnam so if anyone ever past this place in Vietnam then please take a photo holding the pots and upload it for us all to see.
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Danny says...
Hi Guys, I've read that many of you are having difficulty finding the pink fleshed Dragon fruit. I have just planted a number of seeds and would be happy to share the seedlings if anyone is interested.
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Here's some picks of the pink Dragon fruit that i collected the seeds from
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Danny, what's your email address? I'd love to have some seeds of that pink dragonfruit.
Thanks for the kind offer!
Time: 28th February 2010 8:13pm
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Danny says...
Hi Violet, I've only got a few seeds left - I planted most of them but want to save the few remaining seeds for back up incase the first lot dont survive. It might be easier for me to grow them out and send you a cutting if you're living in Melbourne. I think this type of Dragon fruit is called "American Beauty"
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Danny says...
Here's another pic of that pink Dragonfruit :)
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CJ says...
Hi Danny, I would be very interested in a seedling if you have any to spare :)
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Danny says...
Hi CJ, do you live in perth?
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Danny says...
Hi everyone, I just thought i'd post some progress pics of my pink Dragon fruit. 14 have sprouted out of the 20 seeds I planted.I hope i'm not over watering them. I also have a couple of Jackfruit and Red Papaya seedlings and a grafted dwarf "Sensation" Mango growing
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I do - for some reason I can login to My Edibles but not the forum, so my location isn't showing up
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John Mc says...
Hey Violet_Cactus,
I have some Hylocereus Polyrhizus (red) cuttings if you're interested? The description on the label says something like "red skin with dark red flesh"
I remove all the side shoots from the main stem until it gets to 4 feet high, then I let it loose. There's a lot of side cuttings on the way up to 4 feet high.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Sounds excellent John Mc! Thanks for the offer.
Can I email you?
My address is angavar (at) yahoo (dot) com
Now for swapping -
Here for you is a not-very-accurate list of what I am growing.
It's not too accurate because I made it a while ago and some things have not survived, plus some of the plants listed are only 'wish list' things.
I just have not had time to update the list since I learned how to bud-graft... (he he, obsessed with *that* now...)
So if you see something you'd like in exchange, just ask, but don't get yr hopes up till I confirm that it exists in my overcrowded garden!
BOTANICAL NAME
Agave tequilana
Agrimonia eupatoria
Pimenta dioica
Aloe Vera
Apios americana syn tuberosa
Angelica archangelica
Prunus armeniaca, Early Moorpark
Prunus armeniaca, Moorpark
Artemisia absinthium
Artemisia vulgaris
Artemisia pontica
Artemisia princeps
Centella asiatica
Geum urbanum
The genus Persea
Carica pentagona Heilborn
Dendrocalamus asper var. Hitam
Himalayacalamus falconeri
Dendrocalmus minor
Gigantochloa atroviolacea
Laurus nobilis
Phaseolus vulgaris
Monarda didyma
Rubus loganobaccus
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Rubus idaeus
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Rubus fruticosus
Vaccinium hybrid 'Climax'
Vaccinium hybrid 'Sharpblue'
Peumus boldus Molina
Bacopa monnieri
Myrtillocactus geometrizans
Opuntia ficus-indica
Elettaria cardamomum
Cynara cardunculus
Dovyalis hebecarpa
Vitex Agnus-castus
Annano cherimola
Prunus avium
Malpighia emarginata
Eugenia uniflora
Syzygium paniculata
Ugni molinae
Laurelia sempervirens
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Hi Violet_Cactus ,
I sent an email to that address last night. Let me know if you didn't receive it.
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Danny says...
Hi CJ,
If you would like a seedling of the pink fleshed dragonfruit you can email me on dannythediver@yahoo.com.au
The seedlings are still very small at the moment and im not sure how long to wait before transplanting them as i have never grown them before.
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Hi Violet_Cactus,
Does Victoria quarantine allow imports of plant cuttings from WA?
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi John, your email was received safe and well! Thanks!
Hi Danny, I am not sure about the quarantine restrictions going from WA to Vic, except I know they don't allow soil to be transported, ie. plants in pots. That's not a problem in the case of cuttings!
Right now I am reading the manual on this topic.
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nrenfa.nsf/LinkView/E06D9DA338971637CA25758500011A287A3C416170F25102CA2573E7007B22F5/$file/PQM.pdf
Will let you know if I ever figure it out :)
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Danny says...
Hi Violet, when the plants get big enough i'll try send a cutting to you and see if it makes it through
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snottiegobble says...
Amazing Danny!
I have found dragons ! After our discussion I happened to call into my local nursery & ask the simple question " do you know anything about Dragon fruit?" The prompt reply was " Of course, I have some over there, theyre all the red fleshed variety !! My Ex brings them down from Kalbari & he`s bringing a heap more down this Friday"
Consequently I am now a proud owner of quite a large cactus about 1ft high with a high offshoot giving it another 2 inches.( Sorry still not into cmtres)
The nursery ( & pottery) is called FROGSONG & its right in the middle of the town`s main st called Forest Rd. Email: karen.frogsong@bigpond.com
Karen has just been accredited "waterwise nursery" & says the dragons relish the sunniest spot with little water. She also claims that her supplier in Kalbarri is the only person up there who gets them to flower & retain their fruit. Hope this will be a help to other S`westerners.
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snottiegobble says...
Sorry folks! The town is CAPEL
( between Bunbury & Busselton) & tell Karen at the FROG SONG I sent you!
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Violet_Cactus says...
Snottie, that's good news for you guys over there in the west!
And Danny - thank you, the pink-fleshed dragon would be *very* welcome when your plant gets bigger!
Time: 17th March 2010 8:15am
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john says...
joe at tass1trees has the red, yellow and the white pitaya for sale.
I got some red for $8 it had some side shoots i cut and planted..
goodluck
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Danny says...
Hi Snotty,glad to hear that you found some Dragonfruit :)
And Violet my seedlings are being very slow to grow - they still only have their cotyledons after sprouting nearly a month ago! Anyone else out there had experience growing Dragonfruit from seed?
I will have to Fly back to work up north in a few weeks so ive set them up with auto reticulation along with my other fruit plants. I hope that they wont die from over watering as they will recieve the same amount as the rest of my plants.
Also hope that the cooler weather wont affect them too much here - we rarely get frosts but 5C is normal on winter nights.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I bought some cuttings of red, yellow and an interesting pink variety which took only a fortnight or so to develop roots and plant out. Also order Koubo cactus cuttings - see link below. I find seedlings very slow even in the ideal climate of Northern NSW, cuttings seem to be the way to go.
www.aussiedragonfruit.com/Fruit.htm
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BJ says...
Did you get the pink dragon fruit from Nanango? I've been meaning to stop in there as I drive past to visit family out in the South Burnett...
Time: 18th March 2010 12:12pm
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes I bought them by mail order. Very healthy plants, have been really pleased with their performance. Have a look at the Koubo cactus she sells as well
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Danny says...
Hi Phil, you mentioned that you have a pink Dragonfruit - is the fruits flesh pink as well?
I repotted my seedlings into a better draining potting mix today hopefully this will improve their growth.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Mine is just a rooted cutting but Bernice at Red Fox Pitayas said it is pink fleshed - haven't seen it available anywhere else. She says it's a favourite with her kids.
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Danny says...
Its good to see that the pink fleshed varieties are finally being grown in nurseries in Oz.
I had to import seeds cause i couldnt find anyone who grew them here.
Do you know what variety it is? mine is "American Beauty"
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
No I wasn't given the name, but it looks like a promising variety.
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snottiegobble says...
Will the dragonfruit grow well in pots then large tubs? I want to be able to move them to a greenhouse over winter.
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Danny says...
They grow fine in pots. I've seen alot of pics on the net of people growing them and having them fruit in pots.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Danny,
I have grown dragonfruit from seed. I sowed the seeds from a fruit bought at the supermarket two years ago. They came up like hairs on a cat's back - all over the place! Very slow growers, though.
They are doing really well (a bit crowded in the pot) and are about as long as my hand now. I just leave them alone and give them a drink now and then. Looks like they are one of those plants you have to be patient with.
Snottie, I leave my dragonfruit outside in winter, and I am in Melbourne. I am sure that in Bunbury they will be fine outdoors. Just keep them really dry in cool weather or they will rot. I have to protect mine from rain, that's all.
Danny, you might want to take your dragons off your watering system when the temperatures drop. They love water in warm weather and hate it in cool weather.
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Danny & Violet, you have been a great help.
Karen at the CAPEL Frogsong nursery says she will be doing red dragon mail orders from next week.
Dont know if youve heard of Isabel Shipard ? She has a huge "herb" farm in Nambour Qld & has written great books on herbs,sprouts, self sufficiency etc. For her catalogue on plants & seeds go to www.herbs-to-use.com. Unfortunately only seeds sent to WA & Tassie.
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Danny says...
Hi Violet,
can you post some pics of your dragonfruit seedlings?
my seedlings are still very small and i've got the reticulation watering them every third day - is this too much?
I work away for up to 8 weeks at a time - will the seedlings survive that long without water when they are so small?
I've transplanted my seedlings into a regular seed raising mix which has much better drainage than the potting mix I had them in earlier.
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Hi Danny,
I have the pictures on my camera, just haven't yet got around to transferring them to the computer - will do soon!
Actually, when they are tiny seedlings dragonfruits DO like being kept moist. Yours look really healthy - good work!
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Greg says...
Well, all the flowers were pollinated, both by me with my paint brush, and numerous bees and ants, but they all just rotted and dropped off.
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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randey says...
to anyone who lives in perth who is interested i have over 20 dragon plants begging for a new home, both red and white. some at about 60cm others at about 80cm and others about 1.5m, some with flowers.we are downsizing and i need to sell them off from $15 and up. i live in east cannington.
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randey says...
hey greg, you don`t say how old your plants are. if they are 1-2 yrs old you may have to wait until their 3rd year, plus its always a good idea to really pump up the cow poo just prior to flowering (usually mid to end of summer)
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Found these cactus, growing near a local beach wondering if they are dragon fruit.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Shane, they look like dragon fruit to me!
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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Danny, I finally got around to uploading those photos of my dragonfruit seedlings.
The last 2 photos are of seedlings sown a few weeks ago when dragonfruit were in season.
Then there are pictures of seedlings sown a year earlier.
The first is a picture of a cutting I bought 2 or 3 years ago.
It flowered last summer, and after the flower disappeared it left behind this fruitlike object. I am just waiting to see what will happen next!
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Ben says...
Hi All, i planted a yellow and a red dragonfruit around september least year. I have set them to grow alongside two separate trees. Now both are climbing up nice and securely against the trees, almost vine-like. The yellow dragonfruit with fairly long thin growth and the red with shorter thicker growth. Now i have read to get fruit you must make them hang, but all these dragonfruit want to do is keep climbing!! The yellow has reached a fork in the tree where i was hoping it would droop down but it is still going upwards! Should i try put some wire around to make it hang, or do i just let them keep growing upwards, i'd appreciate any thoughts, thnx.
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Violet_Cactus says...
This is odd! The front page of the Forum says there's a posting on this thread saying 'Hi Violet Catus, The photo of the fruit is a yellow dragon fruit. The thorns are very sharp and they go right thro leather gloves. When they are ripe, the thorns are easily removed by knocking them o... By Kim'
But that post has disappeared! Anyway Kim, thanks for letting me know about the Yellow DragonFruit!
Hi Ben,
I've seen pics of dragons growing on farms in Vietnam and they go straight up about ten feet before they start to hang down.
Hope this helps.
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Michael says...
Hi Ben - At the point of the fork in the tree just cut the tip of your vine. This should stop it growing higher and induce multiple side shoots which will eventually grow longer and will hang down .
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BJ says...
I picked up a Pink Pitaya plant and two types of Kubou from Red Fox today. Even battling the Easter Holidays traffic was worth the while to get these few nice plants.
Interestingly, the pink dragonfruit plant is closer in appearance to the yellow, or at least the white, than the red...
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Since I bought my Koubo cuttings I've noticed a lot of C. peruvianus in peoples' gardens, usually devoid of fruit as they have no pollinator nearby. It will be interesting to see how they go - I may donate some seedlings or cuttings to local householders so that their plants come into production.
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John Mc says...
Hey Phil,
I thought I had every thing covered. The amount of new plants I find out about never ends. Space is at a premium on my 2 acre plot already.
Now you bring these Koubo to my attention.
I wonder if there's a lot of similar cactus that look exactly like a Koubo but are not?
Anyway, can't waste time, I'm off to find a Koubo or two.
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Hi Phil,
Do you know which types of Koubo you have?
I'd be interested to learn how many named types there are around?
One other thing I learnt from the Red Fox people is not to use treated pine or soft wood poles as the stakes for the Dragon Fruit vines to climb. Apparently the aerial roots get into it and tear it apart. They say it happened to a few of their early attempts...
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
The two (cuttings) I have are marked simply "MAT" & "P" so I imagine they are separate cultivars to maximise pollination. Mine haven't put on any new growth yet, I planted them around December I think. The dragonfruit have taken off tho, with new stems on all the cuttings.
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John Mc says...
Can anyone here identify a Koubo if I posted a pic of something I picked up at a garage sale yesterday? Or is there too many species that look similar (like dragon fruit) to tell apart?
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BJ says...
Post a pic and I can compare to mine...
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BJ says...
I also saw on Diggers Club website that there is a yellow skinned version of the Pitaya, pictured, that looks like the white-fleshed red dragon fruit, rather than the common spiky yellow dragon fruit. Does anyone know anything about this? This is the spiel from their website:
DRAGON FRUIT YELLOW
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This yellow-skinned form of the pearl Dragon Fruit is worth growing for its spectacular night-blooming fragrant bell-shaped flowers alone but to make the prospect more attractive these are followed by unique lemon sorbet flavoured fruit. In their native Central America they are pollinated by a nocturnal moth so hand-pollinating is recommended here. Grown on a sturdy trellis this fruiting cactus will reward for years.
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peter says...
tried searching diggers to see a picture but nothing came up.
anyway red fox pitayas sell a yellow
skinned white fleshed round pitaya
with no prickles.
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BJ says...
Here's the link:
https://secure.diggersgardenclub.com.au/p-2046-dragon-fruit-yellow.aspx
I thought Red Fox had 5: two types of white fleshed red pitaya (SP and nonSP), Red flesh, Pink Flesh and Yellow (spiky).
If they have the yellow non spiky one I might have to take another drive out...
Time: 12th April 2010 8:12am
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peter says...
thanks for the link
yep they have all those and the non spiky yellow as well as another fruiting cactus mentioned elsewhere
on this forum.
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John Mc says...
I'd like to know if there is a fruiting variety and a lookalike non fruiting variety of Koubo, like the Epiphyllum is to the Dragon fruit?
Here's some pics of a largeish Cereus peruvianus??? I'm hoping, fingers x'ed. This one is growing in an old abandoned homestead I can get.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
John usually they won't produce any fruit unless there is another plant nearby, and not a cutting of the same plant, You need a seedling or an unrelated plant to allow fruit to form even when they flower heavily. I've noticed a lot of barren, lonely cactuses here and people don't realize their potential. Also lopping them reasonably heavily encourages flowering and fruit.
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John Mc says...
I picked it up today. Se pic. Polinator next, when I find one.
It wouldn't hurt if I kept them both together on basically the same hole I guess?.
When should the Koubo be in flower? Same as the Dragon fruit?
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Danny says...
Hi everyone, I just thought I'd post some updated pics of my Pink Dragonfruit seedlings. They are now about a month old and are growing very slowly.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Danny, they look fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
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asianetix says...
More Renier
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Are you still growing dragon fruit?
I am trying to find someone in SA from which we can buy a few cuttings to be delivered to Barkly-West (N-Cape). We have tried seeds, not successful. I could import some cuttings from Taiwan, but the paperwork makes it a bit tricky. If you can help, it would be highly appreciated. Juane (asianetix @ yahoo. com)
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Shane says...
Hi, I planted some dragon fruit cuttings about a month ago seem to be alive and well still but havn't had any new growth from them yet, just interested to know how long it will take for new shoots to grow.
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Michael says...
My apologies in advance if this question has already been posted but I would like to know if I can grow yellow/white flesh and pink/white flesh dragon fruits on the same trellis ?
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Dean says...
I to have just planted some cuttings and am wondering how long they take to show growth.
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CJ says...
Hi Shane, Dean, I planted my cuttings out late last year and, after about 2-3 weeks, they grew crazily all summer (size has doubled and numerous side shoots). I have noticed no new growth for about two months now, so perhaps they are slow down in the cooler weather.
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Danny says...
Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has a Dragonfruit plant with violet flowers. I have just obtained a cutting from a friend who says the plant has violet flowers. He bought the plant many years ago for the flowers and didnt realise that it was a dragonfruit.
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grub says...
gidday i have some dragon fruit seeds
YELLOW PITAYA DRAGON FRUIT(Selenicereus megalanthus)RED DRAGON FRUIT,PITAYA(hylocereus costaricensis)and
RED DRAGON FRUIT,PITAYA(Hylocereus undatus) are they easy to grow from seed?any advice on growing from seed much appreciated also which one tastes the best, i been told the red dragon,is it the white flesh or the red fleash?many thanks grub
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Rev says...
im sure what i have as red/red is H polyrhizus.
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in my experience /
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Lynne says...
Hi did you find a supplier in South Africa of Dragonfruit? We recently travelled Asia & discovered this awesome fruit and would also like to grow it back home.
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snottiegobble says...
This how I saw them in Darwin, out of season for fruiting ( dry season) & they appear burnt on the top. Its a light grey colour.
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asianetix says...
Hi Renier,
Any idea where one can get dragon fruit cuttings in RSA?
Thanks, Juane
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Hi Lynn,
I have made cuttings here in Taiwan and will import these to RSA (NDA has not developed conditions for import yet... awaiting). Otherwise I could not find a supplier for cuttings. I am in direct contact with dragon fruit growers/suppliers in Taiwan and we are looking to import these fruits. Regards, Juane (asianetix at yahoo dot com)
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TheVietGuy says...
Today I went to my friends house and I saw a green flower growing on the tip of the tree. I cut off the middle part that connected 2 of the bodies and took it home. After that I stuck the cactus in the ground and watered it. I have some questions: Will the flower die and if it has more fruits, am I suppose to pollinate it even if it already has ants on it?
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jc farm says...
i have been growing dragon fruits for the last 5 years. they bloom profusely however very few turned to fruits as they wilt and eventually fall.
they are the royal red variety. are they self pollinating variety.
shall i aid then through cross pollination? how?
Time: 12th October 2010 2:28pm
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BJ says...
I've just had my first yellow dragonfruit. Delicious! Its like a really strong sweet grape x lychee flavour! I did leave it until really soft though. I like all my fruit at the point just before they start to bruise/brown.
Now I cant wait for my Pink one to fruit to taste it!
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Danny says...
What type of pink dragonfruit do you have?
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BJ says...
Whichever one Red Fox Pitayas sells. I dont know if we have many types of Pinks here. I'd love to get a David Bowie or American Graffiti though...
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TheVietGuy says...
How can you tell if your dragon fruit tree is the one that grows fruit? Cause I've heard that some just bloom at night.
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BJ says...
Get it from a credible source. If you get it from a reputable grower or nursery, or even someone you know to have fruiting vines, then you run little risk of getting a night blooming cactus by mistake. A few also need hand polination, and not doing this will turn the vine into an ornamental...
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Danny says...
Hi Guys, Just thought I'd post an updated pic of my American Beauty Dragonfruit seedlings.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Danny, they are looking great! Very healthy. You must be pretty happy with them. You're going to separate them into their own individual pots when they're a bit bigger, yes?
Time: 27th November 2010 9:10am
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Violet_Cactus says...
PS I am in Melbourne, but my first dragonfruit is almost ripe. It's a beautiful yellow one.
Feeling chuffed about that!
Time: 27th November 2010 9:14am
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Danny says...
Hi Violet, the dragonfruit in the pics are all single plants, they just have heaps of side shoots.
Time: 27th November 2010 9:02pm
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Violet_Cactus says...
Oh, right! Amazing that they came from a single tiny seed! Looking good :)
Time: 27th November 2010 9:56pm
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Mary says...
Hi Violet,
Do you cover or protect your dragon fruit plants in winter? My red dragon fruit plant was rotted off at the base and the others were frost bitten, I think. May I know what soil you grow them in and fertilizer to make them fruit.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Yes, definitely, Mary. In their native habitat, the cold season is the dry season. If they are cold and wet at the same time, they rot.
If you live in a temperate zone, you must protect them from rain in winter. In tropical places like Darwin you don't have to bother.
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/content/2007/s2172049.htm
At the moment I'm growing them in commercial 'cactus & succulent potting mix' but we are planning on building a dragonfruit shelter-house, and then I'll be mixing up my own soil recipe based on the commercial mix.
I just use any organic fertilizer such as Powerfeed or Dynamic Lifter. I have read that they won't fruit unless the plant weighs more than a certain number of kilograms - I forget the exact weight.
It's also of benefit to shade them from direct sunlight during the hottest days of summer.
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Thuy says...
To Drangon fruit grower, I have grow this plant in 7 gallons pot for 7 years,the root had ran out the bottom and spreat to the round and I feed it with tomatoes fertilizer, dry banana skins, they blooming over 15 flowers and the fruits really big, it blooms every year, I trim off new small branch, In the Winter I cover with card box or thick sheet not plastic, the cutting I put in the mix of sand and peatmoss just spray the water to keep moist or cover with plastic bag. Ater it rooting I repot them.good luck
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Thuy says...
the pink skin and white fles is the best seed can be grow in damp sand and peat moss mixture, and cover plastic bag until you see the plant, bring to warm and bright but not direct sun . good luck
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Cassie says...
I just bought some seedon Bid Or Buy.
Building a shaded area to grow them.
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Miranda says...
My cutting planted one month ago sends it's roots out to the surface of the potting mix. Is this normal?
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christine says...
hi wayne,
I bought some dragon fruit from a cane farm on the way to Seaforth.
I tis about 1/4 a way along the road on the right side.
Cost was about $8. I have had them 2 years & have had 5 seasons of fruit.
I used a2 pieces of wood & made a crucfix, put the plants into bigger tubs & tied them to the stakes.
When they reached approx 1mtr They beared the first fruit.
I give them citus fertilizer.
I take the new end limb when it has grown & put it in potting mix & sml amount of weak fertilizer & leave & there off.
Hope this info helps
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randey says...
if any body in perth is interested in buying some hylocereus undata (white flesh dragons) i am selling 8 @ 1.8m and 14 @ between 70cm to 1m. we are getting ready to move and dont want to have to move them. besides they have spines. have the reds but wont be ready to sell any until later. if interested let me know on the forum.
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randey says...
i forgot to mention that a couple of the larger ones have got some flowers yet to bloom
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randey says...
miranda, the pitaya (dragon) is an epiphyte ie it sends out root like appendages from the stem. this can be seen more readily if the stem is in contact with either the supporting pole or a brick wall. sometimes with commercial plantings the supporting pole is wrapped in hessian. this method allows for nutrient laden water to be absorbed by the air roots OR it means there is not enough covering over the rootball. hope this helps.
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Mike says...
I tried growing red fleshed,white fleshed and yellows from cuttings on stumps in full sun.They all flowered after one year of trimming.Very few fruit formed even with hand pollination and a festival of insects.They got the same sickness as in the photos that looks like frostburn.I prefer the yellows.Farms in SE Thailand dry tropics have small trimmed red fleshed types loaded with fruit on 2m concrete posts in blazing 40 degree heat.
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Nick says...
Hey Mike, howd you get them on the stumps? Ive got a recently cut down 30 y.o. apple that needs planting on top of :P
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Mike says...
Once the stump was just dead wood and had been roughed up ioosed the soil around it and put mulch.The cuttings had roots so I planted a section upright 5cm into soil and tied it onto the shady side of the stump so they would burn when young.Roots go in the ground as well as stick onto the stump as it grows some sections hang on and some hang out until there are almost layers of it.
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Nice, sounds like a good set up :)
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Mike says...
My typing is terrible. I meant so they don't get burnt but in a colder place the sunny side would be better.I had trouble fertilising them because most roots were airborne.
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Corrina says...
Please tell me where I can purchase dragonfruit in South Africa. Thanks.
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Lex says...
For people looking for said plants.
Certain shops will sell them.
For gardening centres with limited species of cacti and plants. They often use the Hylocereus undatus to grow varieties Gymnocalycium upon. (see the pic)
This said it's possible to cut the Gymnocalycium off and continue with the Hylocereus stem.
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Nick says...
Saw some decent (and cheap!) dragonfruits at Mitre 10 today- also saw those grafted ones.
Time: 9th October 2011 7:59pm
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Todd Eric says...
Awesome fruits!!! But you cant eat it, since you told it Dragon fruits. lol
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Mike says...
BigW have them as well as the common red dragon fruit.I'm pretty sure sure the seeds are listed on ICON as a C7100 plant and can be imported.Some of the new crosses,colours and highly productive types would be good additions to the 3 common dragon fruit types in Oz.I recall a past forum where someone mentioned pink oned are here.
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Hi Miranda. I think you are the only person that found that is growing dragon fruit in Sydney. I am in Sydney too and would love to try to grow one. How is your plant going? Do you think it will grow in Sydney climate? Thank you , waiting for your reply with anticipation.
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Hi sasha,
There was a commercial dragonfruit farm near Toronto (newcaatle) untill a few year ago. The vietnamese owners must have since retired and the new owners just let it run into the ground. I go around there every year and pick a couple of bags full of fruit several times over the season, although all the plants have fallen over and are now a huge mess, I still get to pick plenty of fruit. The farm is very low, altitude wise, more or less at the bottom of a valley where it gets several frosts every year. They have a pink skin with white flesh and are very large and tasty.
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Danny says...
Hi guys,
I have some pink fleshed dragonfruit seedlings that are getting quite large. I was going to throw them out as I have too many, but if anyone wants to pick one up let me know.
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For a long time I just thought all yellows tasted better than the reds and the red skinned red fleshed ones were blander than the red skinned white fleshed.This year I tried two red fleshed ones grown near each other where one was way sweeter than its neighbour under the same conditions and i have heard that the others vary quite a bitas well depending on their 'lineage'.Does anyone grow the magenta fleshed or the yellow skinned large sweet types?
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Hi Guys, does anyone have any growing tips for the good old melbourne climate? what fertilizers, sprays, when to apply, frequency etc?
it has sun from morning to 4pm...looks quiet healthy..
here it is on youtube.
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sasha says...
thank you for your reply, i am going to give my plant a shot really hope it will grow.
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I have now read just about everything published on dragonfruit and spoken to some whizzes and experienced campainers.I do have a columbian supreme,a possible desert king and a sweet/sour vietnamese, so all 3 of the good species.It looks like the crosses are the best and I wish we had halleys comet,purple haze,condor, graffiti,american beauty and the Californian brix 18+ types or Israeli red 'yellows' or yellow 'reds'.Even red fox doesn't have named varieties and I wonder what their pink really is.It looks like named cuttings are what you need.
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Simon says...
Hi Danny,
Am I too late to get the pink dragon fruit seedlings that you wanted to throw out? Where about are you in Perth?
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Danny says...
Hi Simon, I've already thrown out the excess seedlings unfortunately. Although I can probably spare u a cutting of one of my larger plants. I have a magenta fleshed variety grown from seed and an unknown variety that has purple flowers instead of white.
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Anyone from South Africa who wants to trade seed / plants?
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Simon says...
Hi Danny,
Thanks for your offer. Which suburb are you in? Please leave contact/address at my email address: vengold@upnaway.com so that I can contact you to arrange suitable time to pick up a cutting. I am at south of river, Rossmoyne. Thanks again Danny.
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Francoisse says...
Fresh Moringa seeds available to offer.
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This site is becoming very boring
I thought of attching some latest photos of Dragon fruit Culivation
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Danny says...
Hi Simon, did u receive my email? I have a cutting available.
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Simon says...
Thanks for the reminder. I am contacting you over your email address. Thanks you once again.
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Nick says...
Does anyone want a dragonfruit cutting?
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Kathy says...
SunilJay - thanks for you photos! How do you attach the tyres?
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Hi Nick, Just wondering if you get any fruit from your dragonfruit plant?
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Nick says...
I've never had fruit mel because the plants are only a few months old, it was just shooting in awkward directions and I had to cut it back.
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Mel says...
Hi Nick
I have two types which are about 3 years old but they never fruit.
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Kathy,
When you cast the concrete post
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Thanks Sunil Jay - I think the rubber is a GREAT idea - and to use bike (?) tyres is also a great idea.
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Minh says...
Hi Danny,
Is there any chance you get one cutting for me? I've got some from sunday market, but don't know what varieties.
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Danny says...
Hi Minh, I've never seen the magenta varieties for sale in Perth. I can get you a cutting of mine but they won't be ready for a few weeks. I'll let you know when they are available.
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Minh says...
Hi Danny, thanks for your reply. You can let me know though phanmc_2001@yahoo.com
How your seedlings going? Are you putting them in shade or full sun now?
My two cuttings are in pots in full sun. One grows noticeably everyday. The other just stays the same. Should I give it some fertilizer or Seasol.
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Danny says...
Hi Minh, my seedlings are full size plants now. They were sprawling out of the pots growing everywhere so I took some cuttings which I planted on a trellis in full sun and and threw the rest of the plant out. I fertilize my plants mainly with pelletised chicken manure and blood & bone.
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Papaya Amitabha says...
Does anyone know if I can get dragon fruit cuttings in Melbourne?
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Papaya Amitabha says...
Hi Tran,
I see u r in Victoria. I'm in Melbourne and I'd like to try and grow dragon fruit.
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Pls contact me if you have some cuttings to spare. Txs
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Nick says...
Gday Papaya Amitabha, I've got quite a few spare cuttings if you're interested? :)
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Mike says...
Nick have you been able to get any fruit and flowers in Melbourne? If only you could get the cold tolerant Californian ones such as at nurseries like 'Mattslandscapes'.It may be a few months off but if I do get some of those hybrids I'll keep you in mind.
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Nick says...
The cuttings were only taken off my one year old plants so I've never seen any flowers on them, theyre still in pots waiting for their position to be ready.
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Where can I buy Dragon Fruit in South Africa
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Papaya Amitabha says...
Hi Nick,
I'm interested in the cuttings. Let me know more about them. How are they growing now? My email is
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Nick says...
Hi Papaya Amitabha, they have all started to put out new growth as well as a few aerial roots here and there! Would you be able to pick up? :)
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John Mc says...
Time for some bragging. The pics speak for themselves.
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Diana says...
Wow!
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John now that is the biggest in the country.Was it sweet? The wildlife seem to have been checking it out.You have to eat the red ones with red wine.
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John Mc says...
Thanks for the tip Mike, I have never tasted sweeter, beautiful strong flavour, the Mrs will back me up on that one..
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Good one John Mc.
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MaryT says...
What's your secret, John Mc? You're not so far away so maybe I can grow it too - can I grow it up a tree or will it kill the tree? It's a jacaranda. I wouldn't mind growing it just for the beautiful flower.
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John Mc says...
No secret Mary, it's just a pink self pollinating Vietnamese variety that originally came from a commercial DF farm. I foliar feed them on a regular basis with whatever is on hand at the time. It would probably like growing up your jacaranda tree, just keep it in check and don't let it get too high into the canopy. I'll send you a cutting.
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Thanks, John Mc for the advice and cutting. I'll keep an eye on it so it won't climb too high :)
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Papaya Amitabha says...
Hi Nick,
I'd like to pick up. Pls advice location. Can email me.
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Mike says...
Mary I suggest that you don't let it climb up a high tree.A post 1.5 to 2.5m high would be good so stems can hang down and around like an umbrella.This promotes flowing and fruiting but stems climbing upwards are less likely to flower and go crazy with vegetative growth.
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Thanks Mike for the advice. It's a matter of finding room to do that. I understand what you are suggesting and I'll see if I can figure out a way.
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Hi Nick,
Haven't heard from you for a bit. I'm still interested in the cuttings. Please give me a all, 0412856378.
Also, I am growing from seeds and some shoots have come up. I am so happy.
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Dear All,
I put some seeds of a red dragon fruit in the pot at around 1 April. Now, Some seeds are starting shoot up. They look lovely.
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Good day all.
I realize this is an old post, but I am from South Africa, Pretoria.
I want to start growing some dragon fruit and wondering if there is anyone who knows of someone with some dragon fruit in the area who might be able to help me.
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Pieter in Pretoria you might need more cold tolerant dragonfruit and there are much better places than Australia to get them.Just pay a little extra and order from Matt's Landscapes in California or Pine Island Nursery in Florida.Get halleys comet,physical graffiti,rixford,dark star,cosmic charlie,delight,american beauty or david bowie varieties for quality and cold hardines.Frankie's red from Frankies in Hawaii is also very good.
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Hi All,
I have much success with my pink skin /white flesh dragon fruits for the last few years but is still looking for the Neon Pink variety which you can see in the below link. Does anyone have this variety as a cutting for sale in NSW ?
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Michael D, If you are talking about the cool pink ones, rather than the neon purple ones, I dont know of them being in NSW, but a few just up over the QLD border. This farm sells cuttings: http://www.tamborinedragonfruitfarm.com.au/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=1752466f68818d8ef1b808cd6875508c
The pinks seem a bit slower and more tender than the purples, reds or whites...
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Michael D says...
That's an awesome site for DF BJ .I've made contact with them to buy the some cuttings already.
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I'm very happy to see first flower bud (only one at this stage) on my Red Dragon fruit plant that I purchased around 6-7 months back (from Daley's). Plant has grown very quickly from 1 ft single stem to 7-8ft with multiple branches. Even though Daleys description says its self-pollinating, I'm planning to do hand pollination to increase chances of setting fruit. How to do hand pollination with one flower? How long it takes for flower bud to fully develop? Once flower is dropped, how long it can take to mature fruit? Thanks.
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Hi Db,
Mine takes about 6 weeks from bud to fruit . When mine starts changing colour I would allow 2 weeks to get full flavour . I just normally put my hand in the flower and shake it around so that the pollen is stirred up .
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Micheal D, thanks for the reply.. Sounds easy job of hand pollination then... 6 weeks from bud to fruit - that's fast for this big fruit, nice..
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Help sourcing plants in Durban for my sister...
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Penny, is that Durban South Africa? If so, live plant quarantine may be an issue unless you can find some in neighbouring countries. Have you considered seeds? They will take longer to fruit, and there will be some variability, but they are very easy to germinate and they're very small, so you could send many. You may still have some paperwork to fill for quarantine, but way easier than plants.
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DF anyone ?I have a good crop this year and just wanted to give other inspiration to grow this wonderful fruit.
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Beautiful fruits, Well done Michael! enjoy your harvest.
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NILESH C. says...
I am takeing trial of dragon fruit in India, please let me know how to induce flowering.. is any fertilizer or spray required?
plants are almost 7 month old and the climatic conditions are tropical.
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M Nash says...
I think that as long as they can climb, they wont fruit.
Set three or four around a 7-8 foot log with a basket ball hoop at the top. Train them up through the hoop and let them spill over. The sections hanging down seem to do the fruiting
Time: 15th April 2013 1:56pm
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Robert Nezar says...
Hi everyone. I am farming red dragon fruit commercially in Hartbeespoort, South Africa. I am trying to find out what the difference is between the fruiting and non fruiting cactus. I might have a few of the ones that does not bear fruit. Will appreciate if anyone can assist with info.
Time: 22nd May 2013 5:57pm
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Anthony says...
Hi Danny, not sure if you are still following these forums but you mentioned back in Dec'11 that you had a pink dragonfruit seedling and a dragon fruit with a purple flower. Was just wondering how your seedlings went and if they or your purple flowering type ever set fruit. If you are interested in selling a few cuttings please let me know at : holiday@bargarainn.com.au. .Hope to hear from you. Thanks Anthony.
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Mike says...
John Mc to answer the question you were going to ask.H.ocamponis looks like this and taste great. Just ignore the custard apple.
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John Mc says...
Beautiful rich colours, Mike. If it tastes as good as it looks it will be Top Shelf.
My spined yellows are just starting to ripen.
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amanda says...
Looks like a cute little comet :) Can't believe all those varieties u listed back in Jan Mike...!?
I have never seen any named varieties available b4...
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Mike says...
I just made up those names Amanda.John Mc if the parcel didn't show it could have returned as I have a card to pick up a parcel.
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John Mc says...
Mike, your parcel arrived today. It was eagerly unwrapped to see the gems hiding inside. Real beauties, you've done well to source them.
Might contact Peter in Adelaide to see if he knows anyone growing the spineless yellows.
Time: 3rd July 2013 7:19pm
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Mike says...
John Mc I am glad they arrived. Peter in Adelaide is someone I owe and have not come through with the goods for.I will get cold tolerant DF for him soon if things go to plan.The ocamponis is larger than it appears in the picture as it is a big custard apple.
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amanda says...
Oh. Why did u do that Mike..?
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Mike says...
Amanda google any of those names from January and all will be revealed.
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amanda says...
Ah. U bad boy Mike ;-)
Time: 4th July 2013 9:43am
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peter 1000 says...
John
sorry dont know anyone growing the
spineless yellow.
i have about 50 yellows, but still green
for the last few months, how long have
yours taken to gey ripe?
Mike
i have 4 dragon fruit about 1ft. high
from the seeds you sent a while ago.
will plant them out at the end of winter.
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Mike says...
Peter today I got what I said I'd get and send to you a long time ago. There are 2 cuttings and they are cold tolerant. I will check if I still have your address.
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peter 1000 says...
ok, sounds good, what colour skin/flesh
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John Mc says...
Hey Peter, my spined yellow's flowered in April. They took
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Mike says...
Peter they are named hybrids with reddish skin and purple flesh. You can check the varieties pretty easily. I'll send them next week. They are known to fruit well in a Mediterranean climate.
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Mike says...
Anthony I only have a small plant unable to yield cuttings at the moment. I never sell anything.
John I have heard the yellow spineless that are crossed with whites are not that good unless they are the newer Israeli ones.The giant spined yellows are supposed to taste good.
I just threw a pic in here to show some of the elite types outside of Australia.There are maybe a dozen named varieties that could be considered elite.
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Anthony says...
A great bunch of dragonfruit. rixford one of my favourites. I have one that is very similar to the Dark Star which is very nice. Hopefully the spineless yellow will fruit this summer so I can see what it's like. Will let you know if it is any good.
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Db says...
My potted DF plants are fruiting now, 1 yr old yellow DF has set one fruit, 1.5 yr old red got 4, 1.5 old yr white got 3 fruits set, there are lots of new flowers coming as well. How long it takes from fruit set to harvest?
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BOUNCY says...
Mark Dragon Fruit must be in full sunand well drained if in frost area cover with shade cloth.I live in heavey frost area and have no problems.I have 10 lrg pots and produced over 200 fruit last year I Fert with dolamite and dinamic lifter cheers Danny.
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sternus1 says...
Dragonfruit don't actually require full sun. They are a rainforest cactus which spend the majority of their lives in either full shade or dappled light in natural conditions. If you have soft light full sun is ideal, but they will struggle in harsh light and baking heat, and will never do very well. The main thing is to keep the soil mixture moist and well drained, and well fertilised. They are pretty greedy.
If you treat them like a rainforest fruiting tree, you can't go wrong.
Hold off on the water while the fruit are maturing, and you will get firmer, less watery and better tasting fruit.
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Wendy K says...
Hi all, We have a beautiful, healthy dragonfruit that flowers regularly but is obviously not a self-pollinating one(we think it is the yellow variety). We have planted a cutting from a non-related plant but it is only small and not yet flowering. Does anyone know where I can purchase or share some pollen so that I can pollinate it when it flowers? It has 14 buds right now (for the second time this year) and I would love to give it a try. :)
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Grant says...
Just wondering if anyone can give me feedback on orange dragonfruit? How does the taste of the fruit rate? The spiky yellows are the best i have tasted so far. BTW i am trying a little bi-carb soda on the blisters of my DF to see if it helps, one of the boys at Tropical Fruit World said they use it when they have this issue, tends to only appear in winter. 2 teasp/10 L water.
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Grant says...
Anyone have any experience at all with orange DF? Or are they just a myth?
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sternus1 says...
There is a variety known as Namibian orange. It is not available in Australia, and is hard to get even abroad.
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Grant says...
Cheers Sternus, i'll just have to keep an ear to the ground.
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Grant says...
Looks alot like the yellow, spiky and all, with the colour a step toward a red. Ever tasted one?
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sternus1 says...
No, I've never tried namibian orange. Given that it's a megalanthus I assume it would at least be as good as the spiky yellow mega.
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MiLKMaN1 says...
I bought 3 dragon fruits last year. Popped all 3 in pots, and started them off in my tent in the garage full of other tropicals.
They all did well, moved them outside and left them out during winter. 2 were VERY close to dying, put them back in the tent in the garage in late winter when I thought I had lost them, they both now have growth and will go outside again sometime soon.
The one that survived winter outside relatively unscathed, i decided to put up a makeshift trellis this weekend and pretty happy with the result. As you can see, there are new shoots, so will need to train them to come up over the trellis once long enough.
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Anthony says...
Bump.
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JohnMc1 says...
Great year for DF, I have over 50 live buds on this one vine alone in varying stages of development. This is the large (1kg+) pink/white Vietnamese variety, great tasting, cannot get enough of these.
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sternus1 says...
How's the dark star coming along?
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JohnMc1 says...
The Dark Star is coming along well. I've been pruning a lot of side shoots off to get it to the top of the post. The spineless yellow has been the champion grower of them all, very vigorous growing habit.
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sternus1 says...
Yeah mine was a racehorse too. I've nearly finished building my new grove, now that I've figured out I can make biochar I'm going to fill my pots with this mixed with pearlite and coir and grow them all in a soilless mix. I have a bit of an issue with shading in the spot though, some handle doe it better than others. No fruit for me this year, big storm came through and tore them to pieces so I've been set back a long way. Still some hope for columbian red and makisupa.
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echinopora says...
What would the consensus on shading/sun requirements be for subtropical coastal (tweed heads area). TFW has thiers in pretty much full sun. I have a few possible spots for my new dragons, all north facing slopes with drainage. My existing dragons are in full sun and get very yellow at times. Still grow/fruit but wondering if they might be better off with some shading.
#1- Full sun autumn, winter, spring. Shaded for most of the afternoon in mid summer by a large leopard tree 6m to the north.
#2- Full Sun year round, just uphill of a septic drain field so the non invasive roots make me want to plant here, but very hot in summer. would but just at the top of a 60cm boulder retaining wall so basically planted into the soil over the drainage aggregate. Roots would have to go at least 1.2m to find the septic.
#3-Full sun in winter, afternoon shade starting at the end of spring through to early autumn, very warm due to surrounding pavement.
BTW Sternus, new growth on everything but aztec gem so far, but it has rooted so just a matter of time. Condor got crushed at both ends in the post but I cut out the bad sections and laid it on it's side. Some of the aerial roots shot out pretty quick and took hold.
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I've found pigeon peas work really well as a fast growing shade cover for mine. I mostly grow them to be in place for the dry season, then cut them back or pull them out in the rainy season and let the seedlings take their place for next season...
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sternus1 says...
Australia post really aren't very good at what they do. They've caused me a lot of headaches over the years, but I got a little justice late last year when they lost a package and really bled them dry via insurance. I was ecstatic.
On to dragons, they will handle the hottest sun imaginable albeit with some burning as long as you don't let the soil dry out. When it comes to dragons there are two noble truths: do not let the soil dry out, and do not make them sit in standing water. Some handle things better than others. Rixford has been a total bastard for me the entire time for me, be has got his to fruit but mine just keeps rotting, so now I'm moving on to soilless mixes made from my own home cooked biochar which I will be selling on here from time to time for a little coin. Hardwood and round not the crap pine chip stuff that packs badly because the chips are flat. I've got a better system now, and I have figured out how to screen it to get uniformly sized pieces. It involved a lapidary supplier.
Anyway, different dragons behave differently because they share genes with different kinds of epis and other cereus. It's triall and error a lot of the time.
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echinopora says...
Have you attempted to graft the rot prone ones onto a trashy, impossible to kill white? I have been experimenting with it so that I can speed up some seedlings in the future. I recently had a shot at yellow and Colombian supreme onto a trashy white that grows wild around here. Both have taken and the red is throwing out new buds. With all the wild ones I thought I would take some 6 foot cuttings, root them and graft the seedlings to save time to fruiting. Its a pretty easy graft.
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sternus1 says...
Considered it but haven't tried it. Cacti are about the easiest of things to graft. I probably should have done that by now really, maybe make a fruit salad dragon vine.
There's a gigantic feral one that grows in a park near me and it is thriving in the worst clay imaginable. I've never seen it fruit before so it must not be self fertile. Might take a bunch of cuttings on the weekend and have a crack at it down the track. I'm currently waiting for a few different types of cereus to blossom in an effort to breed a new type through crossing.
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After 6 years of a sprawling mess this rescued DF vine has decided to flower. I was about to rip it out and replace with a known cv. Still might be done, the fruit is tiny, if it doesn't make up on taste, it's gone.
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My purple dwarf (Aztec Gem?) is pushing heaps of flower buds again after the rain the past week. It looks like a winner here.
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sternus1 says...
Aztec gem is about as good as they get. It's actually better than lot of the Matts landscape types, however it's downside is that it is a low cropper compared to these. And the fruit are small. However I will take small flavourful cv over a big bland one all day long.
It's earned a place in my new grove, growing six of them all up-- and only the cream of the crop make it to that point.
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I threw this third generation Dark Star cutting in a soilless mix feeding it with a weak home made hydro nutrient. It is going ape.
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MIke T1 says...
My task tonight is to choose which of the productive dragonfruit varieties tastes best.
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I had better get started as this will, be a challenging undertaking.Condor is the most likely but American beauty and Delight are classics also.
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I had better get started as this will, be a challenging undertaking.Condor is the most likely but American beauty and Delight are classics also.
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JohnMc1 says...
My large Vietnamese are just starting to colour up. Great year for DF, counted 100 flowers/buds over three plants.
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Markmelb says...
my DF are in 3rd summer and weeping now and look great but no buds yet
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Salsta says...
Hi All
I'm keen to grow these and have tried twice so far.
At first I got red and white ones from Diggers but the red one rotted and died. They replaced it and the same thing happened again.
I then got red ones from ebay and they thrived along with the white Diggers one for 18 months and put out a lot of little ones that I gave away but now they all seem to be dead. I see from a post above that they don't like cold wet weather, so I'll keep that in mind when I try again as we get cold wet winters here.
I'm keen to try growing the red fleshed ones, the pink fleshed ones and the yellow skinned white fleshed ones and would like to try again next spring. If anyone can give me any hints about how to approach growing them for more success next time around in Gippsland, Victoria, I'd love to hear from you.
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Markmelb says...
update from January post - have a single bud on white DF - saw it acouple weeks ago and is now 3cm long.
Saw a DF at Police rd nursery today and flower is dying back so may have flowered last night or so and another 2 with buds.
My advice Salsta is to protect plant from rain with a plastic drape.
My DF were outside all winter last year and whte no damage and red some leaf damage but core OK. Hope we get these 18c nights for another couple weeks?
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Jenny says...
I'm so happy with this purple dragonfruit, it is self-pollinating and super-sweet. It's just growing in a pot up onto my fence. No comparison with store-bought ones.
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Markmelb says...
Update almost a month after saw bud growing - nights are getting down to 10c or below wth 20c days - how long before this flowers? Must be warmer in its personal microclimate.
Even my set custard apples babies on a PP have to get thru winter somehow?
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Normally that flower should open within a week. The cooler weather is the variable factor Mark. In warm weather you should be picking ripe fruit in around 30 days from pollination.
My Annonas hang on over winter, they are an autumn/winter crop in warmer areas, but here they will hang on over winter and ripen up late winter/ spring, including the Rollinias.
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Grant says...
finally the yellow DF ripened after an eternity. These are the best tasting fruit to come out of my garden so far.
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vlct says...
Does anyone know if the purple haze is self fertile , it's states on dailys it's but than below claims you need two.?
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Danny333 says...
Hi all, if anyone in the Perth area is interested in pink fleshed dragon fruit I now have some large 4 - 5 foot cuttings available to trade/sell. The dragon fruit is a self pollinating variety that I've grown from seed and has great flavour. I'm keen to trade for king Thai / maha chanock mango if anyone has some rooted cuttings or grafts.
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Just went and picked a few ripe dragon fruit. Very sweet! 12 more flowers on the way.
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Sasha3 says...
Hi everybody
I am trying to grow dragon fruits right in the middle of sydney cbd
In a very small bit of land I erected wood enclaves metal poles in concrete and planted pink(?) gragon fruits
They are huge now and last year produced fewlowers but despite manual pollination not a single fruit!!!!:(:(:(
I fertilise them regularly and they facing north- very sunny but they want to turn to the shade all the time?!?!? Why?!?!?
Lots of side shoots everywhere!!
Should I prune side shoots ?? Or should I allow them grow wild like in jungle??
If I prune side shoots then nothing will be left!!
I put lots of effort in construction of three stations but very unhappy with results!!!
Please help what to do to collect at least one good dragon fruit?!?!?
Appreciate any advice!!!
Why they turn into shade all the time??? Don't like full sun????
Don't understand it
What's the best fertiliser???
Please help... thank you thank you thank you
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G’day Sasha, if your dragonfruit species is H. polyrhizus ( red fleshed dragonfruit ) it probably won’t self pollinate. You can grow a white fleshed dragonfruit ( H. undatus ) and use it to hand pollinate your red dragonfruit after 9pm. The easiest way to tell if your dragonfruit will self pollinate is that the flowers stigma will be the same length as the stamens. If it is not self pollinating the stigma will hang out an inch or two past the stamens.
My dragonfruit are magenta fleshed H. guatemalensis and I consider them to have the best taste out of the three and are always self pollinating and make great hybrids with the other two.
I would also trim the side shoots off the main stem and only let it branch out at the top of the trellis as flowers and fruit usually only form on hanging branches.
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Hi Danny333,
Dragon fruit likes full sun and heat. If the wall/concrete is warm during the day that will attract to it. Also the moisture at night or after the rain even it is in the shade. It is normal. You only trim the branches below from the main trunk as it is useless and unproductive. As I said before if you grow it in the shade or few hours sun resulting very few fruits.
For example in Melbourne weather Dragon fruit start flowers in mid Jan to mid Feb. so I only apply fertiliser in Nov to Mar. The peak dose in Dec to Feb. I forgot to tell you only 2Y+ old branches will have flowers, but I found in Melb. usually 4+ give 4 or more fruits per branch.Good luck.
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Sasha3 says...
Thank you very much
You are an expert!!
I am lucky to find you
Thank you thank you
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Sasha3 says...
How can get them from you as I live in Sydney?????
Also what the best fertiliser for DF???
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Sasha3 says...
I live in Sydney
Where can I get cutting for planting f thus variety please??
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Sasha3 says...
How do you fertiliseDF PLEASE???
What fertiliser do you use???
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David says...
Hi Sasha3,
If you live in Melb. you are welcome to collect the cuttings. For the size of your tree I suggest 5kg dynamic lifter one in Nov and one in Jan. Add NKP (10:5:10) about 200g each time and increase the dose if the tree response well. The NKP ratio change according the demand of the tree (leaf or fruit) that I cannot give you the real figure. You need to workout. This is the photo taken my Dragon feb 2015. Now it is a lot bigger nearly out of control.
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Sasha3 says...
What is NKP??
Thank you very very much
So this is famous pink self
Olinating DF?!?!?!?
Melbourne ahh?
How about I pay for shipment?!
Would you ship it to me please???
If you give me your bank account number and bsb I can transfer money for shipment directly to your bank account?
Also what's your mobile please? Mine is 0412675468
Please reply
My email is kupitdom@gmail.com
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David says...
Sorry! you need to contact Daleys if you want to purchase the DF. NPK 10:5:10 stand for nitrogen 10%, phosphorus 5%, potassium 10%.
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Mike Tr says...
With fertiliser it is the macronutrients Nitrogen phosphorous potassium. Magnesium, calcium and sulphur are sometimes called macronutrients also but are second tier and not NPK.
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Markmelb says...
David - amazing DF for Melbourne? - how many did you get off that? is it in the ground? Well done = mine is space constrained bit got a couple 2 years ago here in pots.
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David says...
Hi Markmelb.
Yes, I’d never guess it will grow that large (the first photo only shows half, the second photo show you another half). I started 3 plants about 15 years ago. All in ground as DF doesn’t perform well in Pot for Melbourne weather. In term of production, it varies between 100 -300 fruits from year to year. But the fruit is large twice the size sell in markets. Cheers.
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David says...
Due to the Melbourne heat waves, my Dragon fruits come out 2 weeks earlier than previous years. Photo Dragon fruits & Golden Delicious taken Jan 2018
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi David
What a bumper crop I can only wish i have. Guess I have to wait for a while until my DF's will yield their gems to me.
Seems that global warming is inadvertently helping Melbournian DF growers including their tropical and sub-tropical fruit tree collection to fruit earlier than usual.
Happy Gardening....and in your case eating DF's :-)
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David says...
Hi Fruitylicious1,
How old/big your Dragon fruit tree? Does it grow in a pot or ground or still planning? If you need any let me know as I can cut for you 1/2 dozen 1m long to play around (when you pickup your the custard&cherimoya in April)
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Dave
Have three varieties ATM pink panther, yellow and pearl . They are still juveniles. Just planted them last year in a pot but, they are growing strongly back in Melbourne. My son is taking care of them in my absence. He is also a keen gardener like me.
Thanks for the offer. Much appreciated. In hindsight if you happen to have a purple haze then I will take your generous offer to add to my DF collection.
As Always ....Happy Gardening :-)
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David says...
Hi Fruitylicious1,
I have the pearl DF which planted 15 years ago. The Red DF just one year old.
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Linton says...
Is Dragon Fruit plant parasitic?
There's a huge Dragon Fruit tree growing up a large pine tree in someone's garden near my house. The Dragon Fruit is currently loaded with hundreds of huge fruits and flowers and is climbing mostly vertically up the pine tree right up to the top. In the process it seems to have almost killed the pine tree as most of it is dead so wondering if the dragon fruit plant is feeding on the tree like a parasite where it clings to it. If that's the case I better not plant one to climb on a tree.
It looks very spectacular with so many red fruits formed all the way up the pine tree, mostly on upwards vertical growth. Thats a bit funny too because various reports state that flowers/fruit form only on branches that are hanging down. Maybe they are trained to hang down as a matter of convenience for harvesting rather than being a requirement of the plant to do fruiting. What do you think?
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Grant says...
Hi Linton
Interesting question with regard to dragons being parasitic, i can't add any insight to this but am also curious to know.
My dragonfruit can produce fruit almost anywhere, but certainly the majority grow on branches that hang.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton
Dragon fruit tree is an epiphyte as opposed to parasitic. Before i go on further let me define epiphyte - according to dictionary.com epiphyte means a plant that grows above the ground, supported NON-PARASITICALLY by another plant or object, and deriving its nutrients and water from rain, the air, dust etc. Other meanings: air plant; aerophyte. In their natural habitat in central and south American jungle they tend to grow in and on other trees. They grow out of the organic leaf litter that has piled up in the branch crevices of large trees. These cacti will climb their way to the top of the supporting trees and drop their roots wherever they can find soil or a place to grab on.
In this elevated tree canopy, the plant seems to be better than elsewhere which is likely a result of more sun exposure and perhaps the lack of competition for soil nutrients. The highest point of the tree not only offer the best sunlight, the elevated location offers lots of organic fertilizer from the droppings of roosting birds. Therefore, DF is built to grow in rich, well draining organic soil.
So the DF that you saw in your neighbor growing majestically around and up the tree is growing according to its natural habitat thus reaching its full potential. It's not sucking the trees life blood but rather using it as prop to grow and using its litter as nutrient. The reason the tree is declining is the weight of the DF and the constriction it is causing on its limbs hampering the trees movement of nutrients in its cambium layer.
I think that's the best way to naturally grow DF if you have a spare unproductive tree to sacrifice in your property to do it like the DF pictures that i have uploaded climbing up up on the pine trees. Harvesting the fruits will be another point of discussion in the future.
As Always....Happy Gardening :-)
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Markmelb says...
Great Pics Fruity - Great use for a Bunya Pine :)
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Mark
What? Bunya Pine? You might need a helicopter to harvest your DF fruits. These guys can grow up to 150 ft. Well anyway its an excellent showpiece and a superb talking point if somebody has actually did it or contemplating to do it.
Happy Gardening :-)
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David says...
The 2nd season flowers come out earlier than expected (usually in April). More flowers to come if Melbourne weather is still above 20c. Li and Nam Doc Mai will be ready in April. Photo taken 20th Feb 2018.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi David
I hope I will be there to help you with the harvest and most importantly 'The much awaited Taste Test'.
As Always...Happy gardening :-)
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Hi Fruitylicious1
You are welcome if they are still in season in April
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David01 says...
Time to harvest
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi David01
Happy harvesting mate. May you have more reaping to come. Your DF is like a giant Medusa's head, pretty impressive. You can eat your astringent diospyros even when not fully ripe but, you must eat your miracle fruit first to mask the astringency. Just a thought...
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Hi Fruitylicious1,
It should call the giant sisters Medusa's head if the photo taken at 4 corners instead of 1. The Miracle fruit may help to past the tongue tastes but Persimmon tannins will cause stomach ache and stone in stomach as it cannot be digested. The name is stomach persimmon stone disease. Also, next month my NA Persimmon Fuyu will be ready to harvest so I can wait.
Anyway , If you got chance to pass my office next week I will keep for you ½ dozen or around 5 Kg of DF to see how good it is. Cheers
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Hi David01
I might go home to Melb in a forthnight. I am not sure yet. I will let you know after a week. I will message you in your edible page if i can make it but, I am afraid by then your DF will be past its prime. What do you think?
Happy gardening :-)
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If you can made it in April then it should be okay. Please contact me via email or edible page. Cheers
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Hi David
Thanks for having me today in your office and your own backyard produce that you have endowed to me is much appreciated by my whole family. Your personal tips on how to grow a massive and productive DF (400+ fruits per season) with Melbourne weather conditions is invaluable.
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How much would Daleys sell it for 😊
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Wow!!! Spectacular!!! It will be extremely hard i suppose to get one here in Australia. In hindsight, I want to go back to basics which is Flavor. Does it taste as luscious as it looks?
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Markmelb says...
Got a surprise when i decided to pick a splitting fruit - turned out to be my first red as they are growing together and can no longer tell which is which - taste was good - just looks good - is this the first Red grown in Melbourne of this variety??
Variety from Tag -- Columbian Supreme
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Hi Mark
I would say excellent result!. I have a juvenile red as well (Dark Star) and you gave me hope in the future to taste my own red in Melbourne. And maybe we could swap stems if you haven't got the dark star yet.
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mcmelb1 says...
Hi David,
Your Dragon Fruit Plant is so impressive! I was wondering what varieties you planted and would recommend for Melbourne from your experience?
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David01 says...
Hi mcmelb1 ,
My Pearl Dragon fruit was imported from VN. The red and yellow DF require more heat and less cold tolerant than Pearl as its skin is much thinner and fresh softer. In my opinion red or yellow is not suitable to grow in Melbourne for large scale. In term of production Pearl DF can produce 3-4 times fruits than Red and Yellow per tree. If you plan to grow for a few fruits for fun then go for Red or yellow as it is much sweeter. However, if you want to consume a kg a day for few months then Pearl is the one to go as fruit is much healthier (less sugar) and easier to grow. My DF has 2 seasons per year. The attached photo shows fruit at second season 2018. Cheers.
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Jez says...
I’m planning on cutting down this cocos palm because it blocks sunshine from my young mango tree. The tree looks nice but doesn’t provide anything. The trunk is about 30cm thick and I’m planning on keeping about 2-3m of trunk to use for growing DFruit up it, would this be a suitable set up to grow it or am I better off to set up a trellis that I can run x metres along the fence, instead of growing up one single tree trunk? This position gets sun from sunrise to about 2/3pm.
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Time: 9th July 2018 2:37pm
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echinopora says...
The stump will eventually rot. You can slow it down by putting a galvanized pier/post cap on it, as palms will rot from the inside out if the core gets damp. At the end of the day you will be better off heading down to the local farm store and getting a 2100mm concrete fence post (costs about $13) and cementing it into the ground.
Time: 10th July 2018 1:57pm
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mcmelb1 says...
Thanks for the info DavidO1!
Do you know where i can buy cuttings of the "e;Pearl"e; variety (or if i could buy a cutting from you)?
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Time: 11th July 2018 10:54pm
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David01 says...
Hi mcmelb1,
I don’t sell things but if you have a scion to swap I am happy to exchange. Otherwise I can offer you 3 cuttings about 1m long that's enough for you to start. The best time to have the cutting growth successful in Melbourne is Nov when the weather gets warmer and pickup the cuttings at my office in Craigieburn. Cheers
Time: 12th July 2018 9:34am
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mcmelb1 says...
Thanks for the offer david! Is there any particular scion or plants you are after?
Time: 28th July 2018 11:23am
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David01 says...
Hi mcmelb1,
I am looking for Avocado scions such as Reed, and any B types to graft on my seedlings. Don't need to worry if you don't have it. Cheers
Time: 31st July 2018 11:04am
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David01 says...
Hi Fruitylicious1,
Time to pick up your dragon fruits. Can you come to my office this Saturday 13/4. The graft persimmon will be ready by Nov. Cheers.
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Riggy says...
Does anyone have Natural Mystic or Edgar’s Baby I could purchase.
Time: 9th April 2019 12:55pm
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Grant says...
I have natural mystic, have to check if I have any cuttings
Time: 10th April 2019 7:17am
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Rannman75 says...
Lockyer Valley Dragonfruit can help you with Natural Mystic.
rannman75 at gmail dot com
Time: 10th April 2019 7:25pm
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Riggy says...
Could you please get back to me regarding cuttings at ivyrigg at me dot com.
Time: 12th April 2019 12:56pm
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Rannman75 says...
All done , Ivy.
Thanks, Anthony
Time: 13th April 2019 5:40pm
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