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Melissa starts with ...
I am thinking of trying a drumstick tree...it is said t have edible everthing ...including the flowers.Does anyone have experience with this tree?
And if so what do all the bits taste like?

Time: 7th July 2007 9:10am

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Paul says...
I haven't tried it yet (well i've nibbled the flowers)

but I know a lady who spent time in Sri Lanka where the Drumstick Tree is commonly used in cooking (maybe try a google search on Drumstick recipes)

you can eat the whole thing, the root even, but the leaves and flowers allows for it to keep growing

Time: 9th July 2007 5:40pm

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kim says...
The tree is very easy to plant. I have never watered the tree once the plant was established and quite easy to strike from cuttings.
It is hard to describe taste but the roots are supposed to taste like horseradish, not that I have tried it. The drumsticks have a slight bitter taste. Before I continue, I must state that I am no the cook in the family. The drumsticks are cut into short pieces and cooked with your curry. You chew on the stick, suck out the soft centre and discard the hard fibrous outer part. The drumsticks are harvested before they are fully mature. It took some trial and error to arrive at when to harvest.
The leaves and flowers are stirred fried with dessicated coconut and some curry powder.
If you have some Indian friends, they would be able to tell you more. It is a delicacy among all my Indian friends.

Time: 9th July 2007 9:12pm

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Melissa says...
Thanks very much Kim....I have asked on some other gardening forums and recieved no response....could you please tell me what conditions you have...tropical or ... as I don't know where greenbank is....thanks again :)

Time: 10th July 2007 9:41am

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Melissa says...
Thanks Paul what did the flowers taste like? :)

Time: 10th July 2007 9:42am

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kim says...
Greenbank is a suburb of Beaudesert, just south of Brisbane. It is subtropical. By the way, where is Luddenham?

Time: 10th July 2007 5:49pm

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riki says...
I planted a drumstick tree about two months back here in the mid mountains in nsw and it seems to have died back. I'm hoping that it has just gone to sleep for the winter. However i researched it quite a bit and apparently the seed pods are supposed to taste like asparagus, the leaves are edible and highly nutritious and the root is edible too. If you google drumstick there is a heap of information. Sorry cannot tell you about it firsthand

Time: 20th July 2007 8:48pm

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Melissa says...
Hi Kim Luddenham is at the foot of the Blue Mountains and it has High temps in the Summer and we get a few frosts in the Winter...but the back of the house has a protected area fenced off and is a lovely sun trap...so I do have succes with some tropicals....and out the exposed front I have my stone fruit.Sadly at the moment a lot of damage from the worst frost I can ever remember.....but I don't think anything is dead ...fingers crossed :)
Riki.....ooooh blue mountains...a bit brisk for tropicals....good luck with it...is it in a warm pocket?....good luck...chrissy

Time: 21st July 2007 2:56pm

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Mrs Turner says...
Hi Melissa,
Drumstick tree (malunggay)is regarded as one of the most nutritious plant in the Philippines where I came from because it is high in protein. I suggest not to plant near the house as the tree is a soft wood type and could easily break when during strong winds. It can grow very tall (7-10 metres)and if you can not avoid planting it near the house you will need to prune it hard so it stays to a manageable height. It likes very rich deep soil, thrives in tropical to subtropical condition and needs a lot of sunshine. I live in Newcastle and had a friend who got one in their backyard. It would require a protected area from frost if you live in cooler areas. The leaves when cooked taste a little bit like spinach, which has a bit tangy and just a tiny bit bitter so it is never eaten raw. It is easier to eat the fruit when it is sliced out of the shell. To do this, slice the fruit lengtwise into four or quarters then run the blade of your knife close to the skin. The fruit and flowers can be added in stir fries, and including the leaves they can be cooked as curries, or with coconut cream. We cook it with mungbean into a thick vegetable soup with minced pork or chicken or prawns. You can substitute the drumstick leaves to any dish that uses spinach.

Time: 29th October 2007 10:20am

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Julie says...
Hi Melissa,
You can get some great information on the drumstick tree from Isabelle shipards website www.herbsarespecial.com.au. I find the leaves nice raw and eat a handful a day or put them in green smoothies.

Time: 29th December 2007 12:19pm

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Glory says...
Is drumstick tree grow in Melbourne?

Time: 19th January 2008 10:58am

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russell says...
Does anyone have any ideas where i can get some malunggay seedlings or seeds from in australia. It grows along the fence near my wife and my house in the philipines and is great in fish soup and other dishes. It will grow in poor soil and next to the beach as is the case in the philipines as well as in the mountain areas. There some philipina girls in Gin Gin queensland who have malunggay growing. Hope someone can be of help. :0)

Time: 3rd April 2008 8:15am

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Bruce Carnwell says...
Hi, I am trying to buy a Drumstick Tree (Moringa pterygosperma) but it is very difficult to find someone who stocks this tree. Can someone suggest a nursery or would it be possible to take a cutting from an existing tree from someone that lives nearby? Thanks for any help!

Time: 16th April 2008 6:16pm

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kim says...
Hi Bruce,
If you consider Greenbank as nearby, I can give you a cutting. Kim

Time: 16th April 2008 6:56pm

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Bruce Carnwell says...
Hi Kim,
That is excellent! My email is: Bruce.Carnwell@qld.democrats.org.au so if you could send me some contact details off-forum that would be great!
Thanks, Bruce.

Time: 16th April 2008 7:29pm

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Pete van Loon says...
Hi Kim,

I live in Nerang, Gold Coast, and I'd love a cutting of your Drumstick tree.

I'll swap you for something else if you like - I'm doing a lot of swapping lately !



Time: 6th May 2008 10:15pm

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kim says...
HI Peter,
You are welcomed to a cutting but was wondering whether spring would be a better time to put in a cutting. Give me your email address and we can discuss this further.

Time: 7th May 2008 7:12pm

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Pete says...
Thanks Kim !

My email address is phantvanloon@yahoo.com.au

So Spring is best eh ? I can wait...
Email me and let me know what you'd like in return.

Time: 12th May 2008 2:35pm

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juanita says...
I've grown drumstick trees/moringa oleifeira successfully from seeds. Out of 6 seeds only 2 germinated...1 tree is about 12 inches tall & the other one is slightly smaller (it's their 2nd winter)....They don't seem to be affected by the cold weather provided you keep them in the gh away from cold draught & rain...I'll post a pix later on.

Time: 7th June 2008 11:20pm

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juanita says...
Has anyone grown drumstick successfully in ground here in Melbourne?

Time: 13th June 2008 12:46am

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Glory says...
Hi Juanita, Could you tell me where can i get the drumstick seeds or plants here in Melbourne? Ta

Time: 16th June 2008 8:23pm

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juanita says...
Hi Glory,
I bought the plant for my friend @ CERES & that was 2 yrs ago for $24.95...You can buy the seeds from ebay too...As for my drumstick seeds, they were given to me from a friend in Qld.

Time: 17th June 2008 1:31am

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russell says...
If someone could provide me some cuttings I will give them macadamia nuts in return if anyone is interested.
Also out of interest there is a tree called a wampi (originating in thailand) that grows well in frost prone areas. Its bears fruit like a cross between a longan and a lemon. Looks a bit like a longan but is a bit tart to eat. Very pleasant.
Russ.

Time: 19th June 2008 6:52pm

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Rose says...
Hi Mrs Turner (of Belmont NSW). I've been wanting to have Drumstick tree (malunggay)in my backyard. How far is Belmont from Sydney? You think your neighbor would be kind enough to give me a branch. Do you know of anyone near Sydney who I can ask a branch of the malunggay?


Time: 18th July 2008 5:26pm

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juanita says...
My small potted drumstick tree is thriving well in this cold frosty Melb winter.


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Time: 1st August 2008 12:53am

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Ellen says...
Rose

Stay tune to Daleys Nursery, now is the season they've starting to sell the Malungay plants as the weather getting warmer . I just bought 1 from them 3 weeks ago by chance I saw they had them, I bought it for my work mate. And just yesterday I've received their mail notifying me they've got some in . but today when I went to place my order,,,it's had all gone.
So that should tell you something Rose,,,they've moving very FAST at Daley's. So stay tune .

Time: 22nd October 2008 12:07pm

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Ellen says...
To Juanita

do you put the Drumstick tree potted in a hot house during cold winter or do you left it unprotected outdoor ?

Time: 16th November 2008 1:21am

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John says...
I am after seeds or cuttings of the Moringa (Drumstick tree. Can anyoen suggest a source in Western Asutralia or help me out. Will cover any costs.

Time: 17th November 2008 4:20pm

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tony daniel says...
Hi Melissa

The drumstick plant is very versatile. Normally its leaves and elongated fruit pods are used in Indian cooking. The leaves have a light bitter taste and the pods have to be used when it is tender, if not it tends to be woody. It is said to be a good remedy for diabetes. Usually it can be used to stir fry on its own or with other veges. When in abundance the flowers are also used for cooking, but then, you don't get the pods, not a good idea. Once again, try to use tender leaves and pods. It is easy to like the taste when properly cooked with the right ingredients. It is one of my favourites.

Time: 27th November 2008 8:30am

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tony daniel says...
Hi john

i remember having seen in burke's backyard, a family, last name verghese in WA has heaps of drumstick plants. if my memory serves well burke was absolutley fascinated when he tasted mrs. verghese's preparation of its leaves.

Time: 27th November 2008 8:34am

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Ganesh Bhat says...
Drum stick plant can be grown from seeds or cuttings. It sheds leaves in winter,being soft wooded tree it needs to be protected from stong wind. I am trying to get a cutting of the plant in Perth. This plant used to grow by itself in our farm in India. This green vegetable, including leaves or white flowers add great flavour to many south Inidan curries. Helps to reduce diabetis and cholesterol.

Time: 27th November 2008 11:58am

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Ellen says...
I find that the Drumstick Tree leaves tastes very similar to the Sweet Leaves Bush's leaves .



Time: 28th November 2008 7:49am

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Mrs Turner says...
Hi Rose,
Sorry for the delay in my response. I am not getting an update from the forum regularly. Anyway, Belmont is in Lake Macquarie near Newcastle. I think you shouldn't have any problem growing malunggay in Sydney provided it gets a lot of sun and the soil is well draining. A friend in Dubbo said his plant died due to root rot one winter. I replanted mine because it is not getting a lot of sun and I thought it died but it is recovering well. They are very hardy in tropical to subtropical climates.

Time: 4th December 2008 1:33pm

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russell says...
Hi, Just a quick note to say I have 12 malungay seedlings growing. Once I get them old enough to set seed, I will post another comment on availability for those who are interested. Cheers :)

Time: 7th December 2008 9:23am

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Darsh says...
I am certainly interested in getting either seeds or cutting. If anyone can help out in Brisbane that would be great. My email is darshan82@gmail.com

Time: 7th December 2008 10:08am

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Hans says...
My Filipina wife and I are very interested in Malunggay, wish to plant some but cannot find seeds or cuttings.
Can we please be on the waiting list to receive propagation material?
We live in Coffs Harbour NSW 2450 hinterland.
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Time: 7th December 2008 8:40pm

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Hans says...
ah, our email address is dairyville@bigpond.com,

Time: 7th December 2008 8:43pm

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Kishen Lachireddy says...
Hello Russel

I am in interested in getting a seedling of drumstick plant. Please let me know when they are ready.
My email lrkishen@gmail.com

Cheers
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Time: 14th December 2008 3:28pm

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Ellen says...
Hurry, Hurry, step right up and order your Drumstick tree right here at Daleys, currently they are holding 16 young Drumstick tree in stock .

Time: 18th December 2008 11:08am

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russell says...
As soon as I have seeds/ and or seedling I will contact anyone interested.Russell

Time: 31st December 2008 6:36am

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juanita says...
Hi Ellen,
I just saw your post today as i don't usually show up here often, 1st of all i would like to greet everyone's here happy new yr!...My potted moringa has always been kept in unheated small gh away from cold draught & rain, still thriving well..I don't think i'll be transferring it in ground.

Time: 1st January 2009 6:45pm

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juanita says...
so far my potted skinny drumstick tree is growing a bit taller each yr...

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Time: 3rd January 2009 11:45pm

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Ellen says...
Juanita

Your drumstick is only growing heightwise not very robust with leaves and branches wise, you know why?

Because you have that shady green thingy covered up in your gh, uncovered it, as this plant needs plenty of heat and sunlight, don't worry as long as it's in a big pot , soil is plenty of moisture, it can stand even in 41 degree Celcius.

thanks to this hot weather we've been up here in Sydney, my Drumstick is springing small brances, I loves it, it will flower soon, I hopes .

Time: 8th January 2009 7:39am

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juanita says...
Hi Ellen,

Tnx for your advice, but i tell you it doesn't make any difference whether it's in the gh or outdoor in full sun as it keeps growing upward & not branching out @ all..It might be the sudden changes of weather here w/c is affecting its growth..Oh well! main thing it's still alive.


Time: 17th January 2009 10:27am

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Beryl Evans says...
Hi John, seeds can be purchased by mail order from Yilgarn Traders in Geraldton Tel: 08 9938 1628 email: yilgarn@midwest.com.au. Because of the slow start to summer here, I planted my seeds only 4 weeks ago and 2 out of the 8 have so far germinated. I keep them in the warmest part of my garden, but sitting in semi-shade under other plants, but they still get quite a bit of sunlight.

Time: 21st January 2009 2:54pm

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giri says...
daleysfruits sells drumstick plants online.

Time: 1st March 2009 6:54pm

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Fortune Bullen says...
Hi Juanita, Im moving from Qld to Melb and i have a friend who has a small malunggay plant growing for me. Just wondering with your pots, how do you care for them in melb with the frost and cold and rain? And if mine didnt survive, would you know how i could get some in Melbourne? Kind regards




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juanita says...
Hi Fortune B!!
I keep mine in a mini gh from winter till spring & take it out @ the beginning of summer(nov) when the weather starts to warm up.. I propagated mine from seeds. You can get the seeds from ebay...Here's the latest pix of my drumstick.
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Time: 5th March 2009 12:09am

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Sherly says...
Does anyone know where I can get this Malunggay tree in Sydney?

Time: 25th April 2009 11:20am

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Ellen says...
Sherly,

I could not find them any where in Sydney, I have to get them both at Daleysfruit and at allrareherbs.com.au for planting.

But if you just want to buy them ready for cooking they're available at Flemminton market, as well as in Auburn Filipino shop .

Time: 3rd May 2009 11:05am

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Mark says...
you can buy Moringa at the big nursery at Fairfield area. http://www.bonnyrigggardencentre.com.au/outdoor.htm

Im after Moringa in Brisbane...anyone got a spare cutting or seed?
markh79@gmail.com


Time: 31st May 2009 9:31am

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Ellen says...
Mark,

bonnyriggardencentre , one of their supplier is Daleys & allrareherbs, they don't have it available all the time . Plus the quality of the plant is not as healthy as if one would just get it straight from Daleys

Time: 1st June 2009 8:22am

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sal says...
hi kim
i would love to have a cut or a seed of your moringa.
Would you be able to email me please
thanks

Time: 24th August 2009 8:49pm

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kim says...
Hi Sal,
what is your email address

Time: 24th August 2009 9:42pm

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sal says...

my email add. is msalma16@yahoo.com.au

Time: 6th September 2009 9:13am

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Ruth says...
wuld it be possible also to get some cuttings?(drumstick tree)

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Time: 28th December 2009 2:07pm

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Kim says...
Ruth, If you can come and collect, I can give you cuttings. I am in Greenbank.
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Time: 28th December 2009 8:13pm

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juanita says...
My potted drumstick tree is still alive & thriving very slow...It has survived 3 winters.
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Time: 30th December 2009 1:21am

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enija says...
Hello, Is there anyone out there who knows where one can get hold of (purchase) somehow a cutting, or a seedling of sorts of the moringa tree? And does anyone know how long it takes to grow from seed, (those which would successfully germinate. Much appreciated.

Time: 14th February 2010 6:59pm

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Jim says...
Hi Enija, I planted a bunch of seeds recently bought from ebay, most germinated within a few days from sowing, and after three weeks they were up to 50cm in height, very fast growing.

Time: 14th February 2010 7:52pm

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Senthil says...
The Indian shop called "Udhaya Spices" in Wentworthville sell these plants in pots. I think it costs $20

Time: 16th March 2010 2:11pm

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BJ says...
Enija, Which Salisbury are you in?
Northey St Farm has them if you are in the Brisbane Salisbury...

Time: 16th March 2010 2:25pm

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Charles cant spell says...
Jim,

How goes the drumstick trees and do you have any spares I could trade for something else? I can give you my list of plants if your interested in swapping something else edible/medicinal. Give me an email on charlesotwayAThotmail.com if you dont mind.
Cheers.

Time: 25th May 2010 1:41am

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Jim says...
Charles, they haven't taken to the cold that well, I'm hoping that they respond once the weather picks up or I manage to organise some heating for my coldframe. If you still want one, I have one left to give that still has some foliage (see pic) that I would be happy to give to a warmer home. If you want to collect then post your email and I will send you my address
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Time: 25th May 2010 1:58pm

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robyn says...
could anyone help with a stockist of the drumstick tree, in brisbane

Time: 3rd June 2010 4:45pm

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kim says...
Robyn,
I pruned back my tree 2 months ago but if you cannot find a plant by september, do contact me on hakimchiew at hotmail.com and I should be able to give you a cutting. I am in greenbank.

Time: 4th June 2010 8:55pm

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robyn says...
thanks kim still havent found tree, so until september thanks robyn

Time: 26th June 2010 5:43pm

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Rev says...
if anyone needs seeds
im open to swaps
my local tree is loaded with pods and ill pick them when mature

Time: 8th July 2010 6:13am

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Rev says...
Russell what variety do you have?

theres a common that is short to medium in length and 3 cornered in cross section - lets say 15-30cm

and theres the select Indian type thats about twice as long again and more cylindrical (to 60cm+)

thats the one you cant get seeds of because those who have it wont share! they know how valuable it is selling produce to asian grocery stalls!

ive prized the seeds from these long pods and tried to grow them, i once got 1 sickly seedling up but it didnt make it. i guess ill keep hunting :D sooner or later ill hit paydirt

For myself im not so fussed about the pods. They are okra-like, but a good okra is far superior. The value i find in moringa is in the leaves and flowers. they are great greens to add into a SE asian curry. High in protein and in among those the rare amino acids Methionine and Tryptophan - brain and mood food. Its also incredibly high in pro-vitamin A and other vitamins
the roots are claimed to be useful as a horseradish substitute. I can see why people wanted a susbtitute, horseradish is fantastic! (IMHO!)
but in reality the compound in moringa roots is actually a Toxin that can damage Kidneys and other organs over time and you shouldnt eat it

Ive seen Moringa doing quite well in Adelaide (Gardening australia segment mid 90's) and Perth (Morley)
You are prob correct insomuch as they wouldnt like a cool summer climate
but they do handle winter cold much better, though might rot in a wet winter climate with heavy soils

Time: 15th July 2010 10:33am

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Rev says...
heres a good pic of one of the longer forms
http://thaifoodandtravel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/moringa_02.jpg

from
http://thaifoodandtravel.com/blog/moringa-marum/

In Bali its called kelor
and they only seem to have the short form too
so sounds like thailand and India have the other
i found a source for high quality named cultivar Moringa, but minimum purchase is 500g seed!
too much for me.
if i had a couple acres id do it, but i dont

Time: 15th July 2010 10:36am

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Russell says...
Hi, The trees themselves are 18 months old and are 15 feet high(the unpruned ones) The seed pods are approx 30cm long and as round as a large cigar (but 3 sided)As far as I know this variety would have come from the Phillipines originally. The seeds are very fertile and grow readily. Very tough, I actually tore one of the seeds from the seedling when transplanting , but it still grew.
I am going to plant a 100 or so and try them as stock feed this year.
Russ
Ps. We only eat the leaves in a fish soup. But in phil u can buy dried leaf capsules and such. I eat a bit of raw leaf myself cuz it tastes like water cress somewhat to me. Never tried the pods as the seeds are too valuable to me any.

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Rob says...
Hi Rev,
I would love to try and grow some Moringa from seed, i don't really have anything to swap though as all my trees are young!

Time: 20th July 2010 9:48pm

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Rev says...
No prob Rob

just email me at revile1@gmail.com
ill probably have some seeds up at www.tropicalfoodforest.com later

first i need to sample them to make sure they are good, then ill put up a few seed packs
Ill be having a go with cuttings shortly.
I think i may have recently gfounda longer round form too
so if cuttings work thatd be great

Hey Russel
thanks for the info
sounds like you and i both have mostly the more common type in qld
nothing wrong with that of course, its well proven!
On an aquaponics forum a woamn saids shed feeds the leaves to her Jade perch and they love it

Time: 21st July 2010 10:21am

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Benny says...
Hi Rev,

I am new in the Forum and was wondering if you also could send me a few seeds of the Moringa Tree to plant. I do not have a big yard (16 perches block of land) but I think it will be large enough.
My intention is to eat the leaves for health purposes.

Should it be possible could you send it to:
Benny Go
53 Manchester Tce
Indooroopilly 4068.

Please let me know how much I owe you including postage. I will transfer the money to your account if that is ok.
Thank you so much in advance!


Time: 9th August 2010 11:51am

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robyn says...
russell, could i buy some of the seeds, my phone no. is 07 34112760. if you are in brisbane perhaps i can pick them up, or come to some other arrangement thanks robyn

Time: 9th August 2010 3:01pm

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russell says...
Hi Robyn,
If you send me a money order for $12.50. I will send you 10 good size fresh seeds and some sound instruction for growing the trees. Please note that they are not really suited for pots (but you can)and you will not get the best from them. Its a like keeping a cockatoo in a buggy cage. My address is Russell Drinkwater, P.O. Box 22, Eidsvold.4627.Q.
Ph/fax 07 41651004

Time: 13th August 2010 8:58am

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Sophie says...
I'm in Maitland and would love to get a cutting of the Moringa tree, can anyone help please?

Time: 12th October 2010 10:06pm

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pauline says...
Hi Kim! I live in Saudi Arabia and haven't been successful at finding a malunggay tree. I was wondering if I could buy a cutting from your Moringa tree.

Time: 21st December 2010 6:09pm

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Jim says...
Hi Pauline

Your best chance is to order some seeds, from my experience they grow very fast. Try ebay or one of the seed suppliers on the internet.

Time: 21st December 2010 6:58pm

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Fruit Lover says...
Hi All,
I bought the Moringa Oleifera or Malunggay/ drumstick seeds on Ebay through "Forever Seeds". A packet of seeds were 10 seeds for only $3, Bargin i thought and they also sell Plants too for $15 each.
They grow really easy from seeds too. We eat the leaves in almost every dish and so nutritious a must for the garden.
They sell on ebay but also have a web site to buy the seeds direct and they Ship Worldwide Mail Order.

www.forever-seeds.com
Email: info@forever-seeds.com

Also they have a heap of other rare edibles and fruiting trees and fruit seeds, they also stock vegetable and herb seeds too.
I try to buy all of my seeds and plants through them as you are always guaranteed good quality plants and seeds and they are really helpful always happy to answer any questions on growing.


Time: 9th January 2011 2:33pm

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copingwithclay says...
The one year old double-trunk Moringa tree in my yard had to endure several 20 degree nights in early February. Before the first winter freeze it was enclosed in a 2 foot tall, 2 foot diameter circle of wire fence, and then dry leaves were stuffed inside to insulate this area. Yesterday I removed the winter 'coat' and was glad to see that the covered trunks were very alive. Of course, the exposed area had died earlier in the winter. With the enclosure now gone, the twin trunks should grow side branches to start the new growing season.

Time: 16th March 2011 11:14pm

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Maria says...
You can order/buy malunggay in Sydney at Bonnyrigg Garden Centre at Elizabeth Drive, Bonnyrigg NSW. I bought a couple of pots there 2 years ago.
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Time: 19th March 2011 10:21am

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John Mc says...
This is the second time I've read about Bonnyrigg Garden Centre. Do they have the variety of fruit trees as Canley Vale Nursery? They don't appear to be too far from each other looking on google maps.

Time: 19th March 2011 11:21am

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micarle says...
John Canley vale is much better imo

Time: 19th March 2011 12:30pm

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Maria says...
Hi John, I've never been to Canley Vale nursery but now that you've mentioned it, I would like to go and have a look. I might find something interesting to buy. Bonnyrigg Garden Centre stocks a variety of unusual fruit trees from Asia, South America and the Mediterranean although I think Daleys Nursery has got more exotic varieties...


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saeed says...
hi
you can buy or get some seeds from karachi, as I did this and buried the seed in my father in law house now it is about 2, 3 year old tree and full of drum stick, we people cooking its drumstick.

Time: 1st June 2011 2:02pm

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Russell\'s Food Forests says...
As I have stated in this forum before I have Moringa seeds for sale. Email me at russ_drinkwater@yahoo.com.au or write to russell drinkwater, p.o.box 22, eidsvold.4627.q. And I will supply you with seeds.
Russ

Time: 14th June 2011 8:37pm

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Lissa says...
Also bought Moringa seed from eBay.
The rats ate all bar one out of 20 out of the punnets. One is all I need :)

Time: 16th June 2011 6:24pm

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afsariq says...
It's quite surprising to know that your Moringa tree survived the winter. Which city do you live in Texas?

Also, I would like to learn from your experience how to protect them from harsh winters.

I had a couple of Moringa trees in my backyard until last year, I had them in two large containers in the backyard for one year and brought them in my garage for the winter. I planted them in the ground very early in March last year and they grew 12 feet tall and also gave us approx. 200 long and healthy fruits which my entire family and friends enjoyed all last year. Unfortunately, even after taking ample precautions they didn't survived this year. I would appreciate if you can give some detailed steps to take this time since I have a couple of them growing in pots again and plan to put them in the ground early next year again.
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Time: 20th June 2011 7:02am

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Russell's Food Forests says...
Hi, If you have snow in winter its near impossible to survive them outside. You would need a hothouse aka glasshouse and a kero lamp in there running 24/7.if no snow plant them on the lowest side of ur house, very close to the building to prevent frost damage. keep them pruned under 10 ft. so no damage to your house. here we have 1-5 degrees celcius and they survive,
russ

Time: 27th June 2011 10:50am

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Mike says...
Moringas are commonly grown around here and mine died after snapping off and bug attck this year.They are usually very hardy and flower alot.Most people seem to use the flowers rather than the pods.I have heard the name drunstick tree and sator applied to Parkia speciosa which is a more eagerly sort bean tree with pungent seeds.

Time: 27th June 2011 4:20pm

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copingwithclay says...
Afsariq- I typed and sent a wordy reply to your request on June 26. Since I did not see the reply posted, I am wondering if you received it. Please advise.

Time: 28th June 2011 10:07pm

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afsariq says...
Copingwithclay,

No, I didn't received your reply and eagerly waiting to see one from you.

Please e mail it to afsariq@hotmail.com

Thank you,



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Lissa says...
The workshop I attended showed us how to use the leaves in dishes - goes especially well with chicken apparently.

Time: 4th July 2011 5:20am

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Susana says...
The leaves, flowers and fruit can be used in corn soup and dahl. We also cook the leaves and flowers in mung bean soup. The fruit is also nice cooked with coconut milk. The leaves, flowers and fruit goes well with chicken, prawn and diced pork.

Although I have never tried it, some one in this forum said you can eat the leaves raw and mixed in salad and it tasted like a spinach. I thought it is a bit tangy to be eaten raw, I prefer it cooked.

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afsariq says...
This is my onr year old Moringa tree I planted in a big pot in my backyard, already blooming flowers and is almost 8 feet tall.
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Time: 25th July 2011 8:35am

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Lissa says...
Hi Afsariq. Has your potted Moringa sent roots out the bottom of the pot into the soil?
I now have some smaller plants have come up - so have around 6 seedlings. Quite big eventually so will just keep one for myself and share the others with friends.

Letting my subconscious deal with the problem of where I will eventually grow it, but will probably keep in a pot the way you have - it seems quite happy.

Once a week water for it?

Time: 27th July 2011 6:04am

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afsariq says...
Hello Lisa,

You are right, this morning I checked the roots are sneeking out from the bottom of my Moringa pot. I do water it twice a day since it's too hot in Dallas area this summer.

I will suggest you plant your Moringa in a large size pot and keep it in the full suuny area of your yard sittng on a well drained soft clay where the roots can sneek easily for extra growth.

I am also attaching a couple of new pictures that will show the fruits already getting to about 10 inches-:)
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Lissa says...
Wow! Look at your fruit on that tree. Has it grown this big in a year from seed? Wondering if this is what I can look forward to.

Time: 13th August 2011 5:59pm

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bharati says...
Does the drumstick tree have problems with pests like caterpillars?

Time: 22nd August 2011 4:12pm

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afsariq says...
I have heard it does but, haven't notice any yet. One good thing it attracts is big black Bhanwara's-:)

I am also attaching a picture I just took today.
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Time: 24th August 2011 11:31am

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Lissa says...
The pic in the earlier posting is timber and no attachement in the last posting that I can see afsariq.
Never mind, looking forward to my own productive tree in a years time. Still trying to figure our where I'll put it though.

Time: 27th August 2011 12:08pm

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afsariq says...
I have no idea what went wrong with the pictures I uploaded.

Meanwhile, my potted Moringa is giving a lot og fruits and we are all enjoying them here.

Here is the picture of a big black bee that it attracts. We also called it Bhanwara.
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Time: 28th August 2011 4:15am

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afsariq says...
Here is the fruit output from my first year potted Moringa tree-:)
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xman says...
Hi afsariq,

I live in Dallas too and am trying to grow moringa in pots, even though the plants are about 4 -5 months old they are thin and tall (about 2 feet) with only a few leaves on top. What am I doing wrong, currently they are in 3 gallon size pots in miracle gro soil?

By the way your tree look amazing and nice fruits!! What variety of moringa is this and where did you get the seeds?

thanks,
xman

Time: 8th September 2011 4:43am

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John says...
Got my Moringa seeds too at www.forever-seeds.com whole lot shot as well, 100% germination. Got 12 seeds for the price of 10 and now have 12 trees growing in pots for $3, so easy to grow from seeds why spend the money on plants, came up so quick too only took 2 weeks to shoot. Now enjoying the leaves fresh in salads and my wife adds the leaves to curries and anything that calls for spinach to be added to the recipe. YUM!!!
Recommend to anyone, great tasting Super food:)

Time: 8th September 2011 1:25pm

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John Mc says...
I bought 20 of Moringa Oleifera Seed PKM1 Variety? The ebay seller recons it's the ducks guts of moringa? Can anyone tell me if there is any real difference?
Here's the ebay sellers spool:

"This seed is newly imported from India and as far as I am aware is generally unavailable in AUSTRALIA , It is an improved cultivar giving not only way more fruit but increased growth and larger seed pods, with fruit ready for harvest in around 150 days. The highest yeilding giving 400/fruits per tree and av/30 seeds per pod. You might say it is the duck's Nuts of Moringa."

A link to the item:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/280724884430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Any feedback appreciated.






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xman says...
Hi John,

I am familiar with this variety. It was developed in India to produce a moringa tree that had these traits

01. Seed propagated
02. Annual in habit and bushy in growth.
03. Precocious bearing-within eight months
04. High productivity ( 250-350 fruits / tree / year)
....etc

You can google "Moringa PKM1" and come across a lot of articles.

I planted some of these PKM1 seeds, germination was 100%, but the plants are not very robust, atleast for me (compared to the ordinary Moringa seeds that I had planted 4 or 5 years ago).

These plants are currently 4 - 5 months and only about 1 - 2 feet tall and spindly. I am not sure if I got a bad batch or something.

But I know a lot of farmers in India have switched over to growing PKM1 now, so it must be all that they say it is.

good luck.

xman

Time: 9th September 2011 9:14am

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John Mc says...
Thanks xman. It looks like I should be planting some "ordinary" moringa oleifera as well going by the characteristics you've listed above. There's none listed on Ebay atm so I'll have to be patient, Daley's are in production as well.

Time: 9th September 2011 9:06pm

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Michele says...
I have one easily grown fron a seed I have a green house and plan on wintering it in there. I don't know its water and firtilizer needs can you help?

Time: 10th September 2011 1:21am

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Lissa says...
I bought my seed from eBay - followed directions for germination which involved soaking the seed and then putting them into a plastic bag and storing in a dark cupboard until they sprouted.

Out of 20 odd seed only a tiny few spouted but I planted them all anyway.

Out of these,the rats ate all bar one out of the grow pots. That one is still with me thank goodness lol. Tiny but growing.

Time: 10th September 2011 7:27am

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John says...
Hi guys,
the moringa oleifera seeds I got off "forever seeds", they have a website direct and are on ebay, are the original traditional variety , and they were real easy to sprout 100% germination as mentioned in my above post and growing great, They dont have the PKM1 variety yet, but told me they are waiting on a fresh harvested shipment of both the Hybrid PKM1 & Traditional variety, they said about 2-4 weeks from now early October. Forever Seeds emailed their grow notes to me which involved the soak in warm water for 2-4 hrs and them just stick in a pot ( in a warm site )and cover with seed raising mix just above the seeds and keep moist not wet and they should strike in about 2 weeks, they told me they dont use the plastic bag method as this can create mold and then stuff the seeds. They did also mention about the pests namely the rats that love the seeds for breakfast, lunch & Dinner so they said to use a rodent or small bird wire over the pots so they dont get eaten.
Hope this helps guys and you have successful germination of these great addition to your garden and dinner plate :)
all the best John

Time: 15th September 2011 12:35pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Hey John is there a trick to germinating them - I bought some about a year ago and had no success at all. Thanks.

Time: 15th September 2011 7:42pm

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John Mc says...
Tender times ahead, 5 of 10 germinated so far. I've repotted them into deeper pots.
Hey Phil, I have a few PKM1 seeds left if you want to give them another go?
I soaked them in warm water for 24 hours and then planted them in a commercial seed raising mix. I read they won't germinate in light, so I'm guessing I planted the seed deep enough away from the light.

Time: 15th September 2011 10:07pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Actually might be taking a drive to Daleys tomorrow, see if they have a seedling or two for sale. Thanks in advance John - I might need to get in touch again if they're outta stock.

Time: 15th September 2011 11:21pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Ended up getting a 1m Moringa at Daleys today for twelve bucks, already flowering too. Staff there are great, couldn't be more helpful :-)

Time: 16th September 2011 5:54pm

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John Mc says...
Yes. going to Daley's is like making a once in a lifetime trip to mecca. I'm going to make the treck, and hopefully sooner than later. Errr, that's to Daley's, not Mecca.

Time: 16th September 2011 8:42pm

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Lissa says...
Having Daley's-envy as they are so far from us here north of Brisbane :(

Hopefully they will have a stall at the upcoming BOGI Fair on 2nd October.
http://bogi.org.au/

I always seem to find a little space somewhere to fit a new plant in lol.

Time: 17th September 2011 5:54am

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JK says...
Lost my drumstick in the winter. Will someone supply me with a plant or cutting,
In Perth, WA

Time: 19th September 2011 12:35pm

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Jim says...
Hi JK

Check the root, there should be a small bulbous root under the soil which will more than likely reshoot as the weather heats up.

Time: 19th September 2011 12:38pm

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Lambo says...
Can anyone tell me how this tree will handle the wet wet tropics

Time: 21st October 2011 9:51pm

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Ellen says...
Hi Maria

Is your malungay/drumstick tree in ground or in pot ?

Time: 29th October 2011 1:16am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Lambo

I have seen a tree in the Cairns botanical garden doing well so I think it should be ok to grow this drumstick tree in Bingil bay.

Time: 29th October 2011 8:27am

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Meng says...
I have tried growing moringa from cuttings, but have not been successful so far. The first two cuttings were dug out by my dog. The third cutting was not successful either. I noticed that the cutting had slanted away from its upright position and there was some fungus growing at the top of the cutting. Someone told me that the moringa is a very sensitive plant, and any slight movement during its early days will cause it to die. Any truth in that? I was told that the moringa has very spreading roots which can break up drains and pavements. How far away from these structures should the moringa be planted? I am now attempting to grow the moringa from seed. Would appreciate some advice on the points raised.

Time: 16th December 2011 3:51pm

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nick giancola says...

I have just come across this forum and am very happy to read all the comments.
I have been propergating the drumstick tree for a while now. I have seedlings for sale here in West Australia I also have seed to send any where if permitted

Time: 21st December 2011 12:10am

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chillilover says...
Hey Nick. I am not in WA but i'd like to have the seeds please. Let me know how much.

Time: 21st December 2011 7:40am

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Toni says...
Hi Nick, I would like to by buy some seedlings. My email address is hobiegirl@hotmail.com If possible would like to organise to pick up before Christmas

Time: 21st December 2011 3:00pm

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nick giancola says...
Hi Chillilover
If you send your email address i will be in touch.

Time: 21st December 2011 5:40pm

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Simon says...
Hi Nick,
Which suburb are you in? I would like to get in tourch to get some seedlings. My email address is vengold@upnaway.com

Time: 22nd December 2011 1:46pm

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Louise says...
Hi Nick Giancola,
I would like to purchase some Drumstick Seeds of you please. My email address is shakiralodge@yahoo.com.au

Thanks
Louise

Time: 29th December 2011 11:08am

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Fruit Lover says...
Hi Nick,
Please could you post your sales contact EMAIL in this thread so we can contact you direct for sales.

Time: 29th December 2011 1:49pm

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Lissa says...
Have recently planted my Moringa seed grown seedling out in the garden. Used a few leaf tips in a chicken casserole too :)
Out of 25 odd seeds this is the only one that made it to maturity. Some didn't germinate and the rat ate the rest.

Time: 29th December 2011 7:48pm

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nick giancola says...
Hi Fruitlover.
My contact is
nick.giancola@ceramictilescentre.com.au

Time: 30th December 2011 11:13am

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nick giancola says...
Hi All and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all
WA time its now 2012.
I have drumstick seeds for sale.
Email
nick.giancola@ceramictilescentre.com.au

Time: 1st January 2012 2:55am

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Noel says...

Hi Nick,
Which suburb are you in? I would like to get in touch to get some seedlings/seeds. My email address is towerofpower7@hotmail.com

Time: 5th January 2012 11:07pm

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Maria says...
Hi Ellen,

My malunggay/drumstick tree is planted on the ground. It's in a sunny well drained position next to a colourbond fence. It survived 3 winters and now we're still enjoying it's leaves.


Time: 10th January 2012 5:14pm

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Denise says...
Hello, I read about your neighbour having a drumstick tree. I bought a small one at a Herb Farm on the Sunshine Coast Queensland, for $20, and it has died when I moved it from its small pot into the soil. Would your friend have any seeds that I could buy. thankyou. Denise

Time: 15th January 2012 3:50pm

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nick giancola says...
Hi Denise
If you contacme on
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i can organise to send you some Drumstick seeds.

Time: 15th January 2012 9:12pm

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juanita says...
Has anyone grown drumstick tree in pot or inground successfully in Melbourne? Give us some helpful hints if you have pls!...Here's one of the small siblings pix,it has survived 4 winters & grow pretty slow.The original plant (their mom)w/c i propagated from seeds has been dead ages ago...
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Time: 18th January 2012 7:55pm

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nick giancola says...
Hi All.I have heaps of new season Drumstick seed and 18x30cm seedlings for sale here in WA.
nick.giancola@ceramictilescentre.com.au

Time: 24th January 2012 11:18pm

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Rebecca says...
I was given 2 only WAMPI fruits - I ate 1 & would like to grow the other..can anyone give me advice as to the best way to grow from seed please? The flavour is fabulous & I'd love 1 of these trees in my garden.

I live in Southport Gold Coast - high humidity & strong sea breezes..many thanks..

Time: 7th February 2012 1:44pm

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BJ says...
Rebecca, Eat the fruit, spit out the seed, put seed in a little pot with potting mix in it. The seedling should pop up in a month or less at this time of year and should power along at Southport. It will grow best if protected from the strongest of the wind, but should do fine.


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glennis says...
There is a better way .

Time: 7th February 2012 2:12pm

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Rebecca says...
BJ - thank you..unfortunately the 2nd fruit had spoiled & the seed was no good..I had no idea there were so many different types of Wampi..I'll be able to buy one now. May I ask your recommendation? For a backyard garden, which would be the best dwarf-size to grow? I've got dodgy hips & awaitng surgery..everythings now growing in containers or raised garden beds, no longer in the ground or No Dig. Many thanks

Time: 15th February 2012 12:45pm

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BJ says...
Buy any grafted named variety. Yeem Pay and Guy Sam are both good. Seedlings nearly always tend to be overly aromatic, tart, 'furry' and seedy. They are not dwarves, but growing them in pots will keep their size in check. You can get them from Daley's, Forbidden Fruits or Tropical Fruit World who stocks Daley's plants in their little nursery and often have Wampi.

Time: 15th February 2012 2:07pm

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Meng says...
Nick Giancola, Just wondering what's the maximum length your drumstick fruit can grow to in Western Australia. Does type of climate affect the size of the fruit?

Time: 15th February 2012 2:33pm

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Lissa says...
I grew a dozen or so Wampi from seed some years back. Have moved from that house, but saw with a drive by that the trees are still there.
The tree I bought and have planted at home does not have as pleasant a fruit (when I can get hold of one before the fruit bat eats it!). I didn't realise there were different varieties at the time either.

Time: 17th February 2012 8:43am

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snottiegobble says...
Suggesting take a look at all the 'drumstick' photos back thru this thread. They cant all be drumstick trees, in fact Juanita`s seedlings look more like curry leaf plants! Can anyone tell me what the drumstick tree flowers are like. please!

Time: 18th February 2012 7:28pm

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juanita says...
Hi snottiegobble... i can assure you those are drumstick plant pics taken on 2008 & 2009...Nice to see those pics are still in this thread.

Time: 19th February 2012 1:36am

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snottiegobble says...
That seedling looks so strong compared to the predessor tho doesnt it? Any photos of flowers please, Juanita?

Time: 19th February 2012 6:12pm

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juanita says...
Hi snottiegobble...Unfortunately my drumstick never gets to blooming stage & never grows into a big matured tree.I think Melbourne's climate isn't warm enough for the drumstick to grow stronger & bigger, but it's a nice looking pot plant specimen w/ wee delicate green leaves..

Time: 21st February 2012 2:26am

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Afsariq says...
Here is a picture of my drumstick flowers I took last year and posted on the forum.

Drumstick plant needs full sun and Miracle grow plant food-:)

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Time: 21st February 2012 10:32am

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snottiegobble says...
Thanks for the photo Afsariq! The flowers are very attractive & I think your climate may be similiar to ours in WA which is hot summers, & cool wet winters ( mostly) with very mild frosts for some areas!

Time: 21st February 2012 11:53am

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Afsariq says...
You are absolutely right snottiegobble, similar kind weather conditions in Dallas.
My Moringa tree is in a 3o gal pot and reached almost 10 feet last fall, now it is trimmed back to 5 feet and safely kept in my garage.Surprizingly last year it gave me approx.75 fruits averaging 15-22 inches in size.
Hoping for a more productive spring and summer this year.

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Time: 21st February 2012 12:52pm

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snottiegobble says...
Wow Afsar, moringa is now on my list, also! I guess the only difference for some people here close to the sea ( not me) would be salt laden wind damage?

Time: 21st February 2012 1:43pm

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Ellen says...
Hi Maria

During the winter period do you harvests the leaves ?


I've told my friend about your success with planting it inground, and he put his inground last year, it bursted out beautifully throughout the summer, with abundant harvests for him, but it has slow down the growth rate during last winter and died off for him,,,,

So i too just put mine inground , been a month and now it's bursting with growths,,,,but i find it the slugs really enjoying it leaves as well, LOL,,,,,and i am kind of over worries for the up coming winter, don't know if i should harvest it or just leave it alone.

BTW, if yours getting to be too big later on, prune it down to knee height or waist height for easy access when harvesting it,,,,,so it will give off new branches/shoots.
Back home that's was how everyone of my relatives does it. When i've asked them how come you folks don't let it grow high but you kept them chopped down, and that's what they've said.

Time: 22nd February 2012 11:15am

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glennis says...
Does the moringa have an invasive taproot ? Blocking drains etc .

Time: 22nd February 2012 4:57pm

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Redoliveberry says...
I am growing one of them in Brisbane - subtropical climate. It is still only small and so far I used leaves in cooking. I have no flowers or pods yet. I add them to stir fry, soups and sauces. I use them mainly for the nutritional value, they don't have a strong taste, but they have a pleasant aroma.
I believe the tree will do well in subtropical and tropical location.

Time: 22nd March 2012 4:49pm

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afsariq says...
Here is a picture of my potted Moringa tree in our backyard. This year with hot summer days in Dallas, production is amazingly good.

The total output is approx.140 pieces and each one is about 18-20 inches long.

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David says...
They are amazing

Time: 4th August 2012 3:49pm

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Meng says...
Asfariq, your moringa fruits look really good. I have a friend in Malaysia whose moringa tree produces fruits in excess of 30 inches. I've even measured one achieving 40 inches! Is there a particular variety of moringa that produces such long fruits? My friend uses cowdung as fertiliser.

Time: 22nd August 2012 6:45pm

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Lissa says...
Quite a crop Asfariq! My Moringa is still a spindly stick. Something to look forward to.

Time: 23rd August 2012 5:03am

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shiv says...
Hi all needed some cutting or seeds of moringo tree live in central coast willing to pay for as well if anyone could help it would be great

Time: 10th September 2012 2:44pm

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shiv says...
Hi all needed a moringo plant cutting or seeds am in central coast willing to pay for
as well if anyone could help it would be great my mail id is shivishv@hotmail.com
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mrgnome says...
Hi Shiv

I recently purchased some Moringa seeds on eBay.. 10 seeds.. 90% germination rate in 8 days.. here is the link

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ORGANIC-HOME-GROWN-MIRACLE-TREE-10-SEED-HEALTHY-VITAMINS-MINERALS-ANTIOXIDANT-/200817388764?pt=AU_Plants_Seeds_Bulbs&hash=item2ec1a62cdc

Time: 10th September 2012 8:09pm

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shiv says...
Hello mrgnome
thanks a lot for ur response I did try that last time most of them didn't grow and the ones which germinated died in few weeks after
That's why I thought I wil try something different this time any other suggestions are most welcome
thanks

Time: 12th September 2012 3:46pm

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Sandra says...
I want to buy a drumstick tree can you help

Time: 13th January 2013 8:38pm

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Chezdane says...
I want to buy a drumstick tree can you help

Time: 13th January 2013 8:39pm

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Rusty Nuts says...
Hi,
I have seeds for $12.50 a packet including postage. Fresh and good germination. Email me at russ_drinkwater@yahoo.com.au I will be in bundaberg at kelly's beach for three days starting on the 20th of this month. Let me know soon!
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shiv says...
Hello Sandra,
I have some seeds with me Will post it to you if you need them Or If you do want the plant I have sown some seeds Will send you some If it germinates and grows Either If you are interested Please do contact me
Thanks and regards

Time: 18th January 2013 3:09pm

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shiv says...
Hello Chezdane
I have some seeds with me Will post it to you if you need them Or If you do want the plant I have sown some seeds Will send you some If it germinates and grows Either If you are interested Please do contact me
Thanks and regards

Time: 18th January 2013 3:10pm

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nickg says...
Hi Guys,
I have moringa seeds for sale cheap also have seedlings up to a meter high!
also have 1 cutting grown plant very thick trunk in 30lt pot with handles that has plenty of flowers and 6 large drum sticks on it. If interested leave details. I am in Perth.

Time: 30th January 2013 9:34pm

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glennis says...
These people have moringa for sale .
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/Herbs/horseradish.htm

Time: 31st January 2013 12:11pm

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chezdane says...
Would love some seeds or even a cutting if thats possible

Chezdane

Time: 3rd February 2013 10:47am

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nickg says...
Hi chezdane,
The new seeds will mature in approx 4 weeks. If interested leave details and i will contact when they are ready.

Time: 3rd February 2013 11:13am

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chezdane says...
sandra mcleish 2574 Goodwood Road Goodwoood.4660 QLD

Greatly appreciated

Time: 11th February 2013 3:20pm

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nickg says...
I have 3 seedlings from last year 400 high, 600 high and 1m high.$8,15 and 20.
$40 the lot.must appreciate this wonderful tree.please only dedicated drumstick lovers only! Leave details if genuine.

Time: 11th February 2013 9:16pm

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Fedila says...
Hi Jim,

Is there anyway you could send me cutting of mooring tree I live NOR.

If you are happy to do that my email address is fedila67@yahoo.com.

Thanks in advance.
Fedila

Time: 17th February 2013 9:55pm

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nickg says...
Hi Sandra,
The seeds are just about ready, please send email so i can contact you, if you still want seeds

Time: 19th February 2013 9:53pm

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Kiyara says...
Hi can anyone help to me to find a Drumstick farmer in australia. I'm not looking for a cutting or seed I need the actual Drumstic for selling.

Time: 27th February 2013 11:38pm

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Kiyara says...
Hi can anyone help to me to find a Drumstick farmer in australia. I'm not looking for a cutting or seed I need the actual Drumstic for selling.

Time: 27th February 2013 11:38pm

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Rusty Nuts says...
Hi, Do you want to sell dried leaf in capsule form as they do in the phillipines or what? I have adult trees and have the area to grow 200-300 if you are interested?
Russ

Time: 6th March 2013 5:40pm

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juanita says...
Has anyone successfully grown drumstick tree in the ground here in Melb? pls give us some helpful hints..Tnx in advance

Time: 6th March 2013 10:59pm

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glennis says...
Get a plant from daleys as it has a good root system . The plant needs warm soil to grow so put in a nice sunny spot next to a warm wall or somewhere like that . Dig a large well aerated hole and put the plant in and dont over water it .

Time: 8th March 2013 5:33pm

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Kiyara says...
Hi Russ no I'm not after thedried leaf, I'm after the actual Drumstic Beans. Do you sell whole sale?

Time: 12th March 2013 11:11pm

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Rusty Nuts says...
Hello,
Kiyara I can sell the whole beans. What age do you want them at?

Time: 29th March 2013 7:52pm

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Janice says...
Please email me if your still interested in buying malunggay seeds, I am from Philippines and have plenty stocks at hand for sale, and I can ship them to your location (ravinaj21@yahoo.com). I'm Janice.

Time: 1st April 2013 11:48am

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Ann143 says...
Hi Kim,

Can I buy the cutting from you please and if I could also buy a few leaves for cooking that would be great.

Thanks
Ann


Time: 26th April 2013 1:17pm

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V says...
Ann, are you still after a cutting? Where are you located in Brisbane? I am at Mt Ommaney & you are most welcome to have a cutting from me.

Time: 22nd May 2013 11:24am

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Izzi Dole says...
During a visit to Bundaberg in Queensland I noticed that the Drumstick tree(Moringa) was growing in the wild. I managed to bring three cuttings home to Sydney and planted in my garden out of which one survived the vagaries of winter and the other two died. Unfortunately one day I accidently stepped on the young plant and it died. I was told that the Aborigines used the long bean as firewood.The flowers, the long bean and the leaves are used for cooking while the bark of the tree is used for medicinal purposes in Sri Lanka.The Drumstick(Moringa) is available at the Flemington Markets in Sydney during summer in the Fiji Indian stall and is quite fleshy and nearly a metre long.I heard that South American men consider that the Moringa bean enhances their sexual prowess.

Time: 29th May 2013 11:42pm

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Anonymous says...
Hello V
I just wanted to know if you have any more of the cutting I need couple of them.
If you do have them please mail me
I live in Sydney and my email id is shivishv@hotmail.com

Time: 14th June 2013 3:27pm

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Kecy says...
Did you get ant cuttings, and are they growing well in western Syd?

Time: 24th April 2014 2:00pm

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rustynuts1 says...
Hello,
If anyone needs Moringa seeds here is a link.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201080753110?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Or you can email me at russ_drinkwater@yahoo.com.au or phone/fax 0741651004
Its a bit late to plant them in the ground this season, but they can be started in pots and planted out in spring.
Russ

Time: 28th April 2014 2:45pm

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JohnMc1 says...
I'm chasing some seed atm, but you're the most expensive on EBay Rusty, what's so special about yours? New cultivar?
You are 10 for $15
Others 25 for $5 + $1.50 post? from Gympie.

Time: 28th April 2014 2:58pm

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sternus1 says...
They're all over the shop in my suburb John, pretty sure I spotted one near the petrie woolworths growing in a vacant lot. I'll have a poke around next time I'm there, don't know if they're in season or what right now though.

Time: 28th April 2014 3:41pm

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rustynuts1 says...
Hi John,
If you send seeds in an envelope they will go through the australia post postcode scanner which will bend and crush an aluminium scopemount bar for a rifle!
So imagine what it will do to large seeds such as a drumstick tree! It costs $5 or so for tracked packet postage, 10% to ebay, plus paypal takes 2.5% of what I am paid as a commission! So really I am not making much at all. You will supplied with growing instructions and my phone number so if you have any problems I will try to help you as I enjoy growing edible plants and do all I can to encourage others to do like wise in our declining self sufficient unsustainable society. I bet not a lot of sellers want you ringing them for help! Check my feedback, I am reliable and reasonably fast and no complaints!
Some of the people trying to sell seeds in this forum are from the phillipines and you will have a tonne of problems if you attempt to import seeds without notifying AQIS and get caught. All that glitters is not gold, sorry.
I can supply seeds off ebay for less, just email me at russ_drinkwater@yahoo.com.au or ring me on 0741651004

Regards Russ

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nicg says...
Hi Guys,
I have some spare Drumstick tree seeds
that i can share.
I am in Perth.
email your address and i will post out.
nickgiancola54@gmail.com
Cheers

Time: 18th May 2014 12:07pm

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Mrs Wagner says...
Hi Mrs Turner, I live in the Central Coast area, would it be possible for me to get a cutting of your Moringo tree, please, willing to pay and pick it as I don't live that far from Belmont.
My email address is, mrswagner@bigpond.com thank you. Cheers.


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MNash1 says...
Is it too late to plant this seed now at Tweed Heads?
The drunken Ebay fairy struck and I bought some seeds.

Time: 20th February 2017 3:07pm

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Lissa says...
Plant the seed in a pot M. That way you can move them around and keep them in a warm sunny spot. Fresh seed is better than seed that has been stored.

Time: 21st February 2017 8:00pm

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Izzi Dole says...
I have a drumstick plant in a pot and it hasn't grown much in size since I got it about 15 months ago. It receives sun throughout the day. I live in Sydney and the plant shed all it's leaves in winter and looked virtually dead as it grows in tropical climate. However it came back to life in spring.
I don't bother so much because drumstick is available these days in plenty at an Indian stall at the Flemington Markets in Sydney and is around A$10.00 a kilo. They grow in the wild in Bundaberg in Queensland. Someone inquired if drumstick could be grown in Perth. Some years ago when I visited a friend in Perth I found a tall drumstick tree about 5 metres tall in front of his house with the long beans dangling from it's branches. I was born in a tropical country and we always had a drumstick tree(moringa) in our garden and used the flowers, beans and leaves for food. On a recent visit to the Tropical Fruit World on the Gold Coast I saw a tall drumstick tree where they take you to taste the many varieties of tropical fruits that are grown in the farm. If you are interested you can read my article under the same title.

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rustynutz says...
Better to plant the seed into a large seedling bag and plant the tree out in spring as their production is almost nothing in a pot!
They grow well inland from bundaberg in a frost area if planted near a building for a bit of protection.

Time: 22nd February 2017 3:33pm

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Apsar says...
would it be possible for me to get a cutting? or seeds in Melbourne.

Time: 2nd August 2017 11:03am

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Surendra says...
I live in Blacktown NSW Australia. Have three Morunga trees in pots. Want to put in ground. One tree is about 1 miter tall. any suggestion as to what the soil condition should be.

Time: 5th November 2017 3:00pm

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Lissa says...
Hi Surendra. As with planting out any plant into the ground a bit of soil prep is a good idea. Dig a hole a bit bigger than the soil ball the plant is currently in and add some compost. Remove your Moringa from it's pot without disturbing the soil and roots and gently place in the hole. Fill in around with soil and compost and tamp down. Give it a good drink when you are finished.

Time: 6th November 2017 4:19am

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rustynutz says...
If you have frosts then in a sheltered position near a building. Making sure there are no water pipes etc close by.
Soil condition is not so important as the tree is very hardy. It will grow in black soil, red scrub, sandy loam with a clay base. They like water, some gypsum once a year, a bit of chook poop and if available some composted material to retain mositure.
Heat does not effect the tree as it grows in desert areas in africa and wet areas as in the phillipines. We have frosts here down to zero degrees which retards the trees growth in winter, but does not damage it.

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afsariq says...
My Moringa trees in 30” pots are going very well this year in Texas zone 7B, I live near Dallas.
This year’s output is approx. 125 between the two trees.

Afsar
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Linton says...
Attention Mark...Moringa grows in Pot!

Pictures of your Moringa tree starting to grow new leaves. Seems it likes these temperatures of nearly 40 degrees to get going.

Just saw the entry above of 2 Moringa trees being grown in pots in Texas from which they got 125 pods! Therefore I think it's better to keep your tree in a pot so it can moved into a dry zone over winter and the above post confirms that they will still be highly productive even in a pot.
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rustynutz says...
The problem is that most people grow the tree for it leaves which are added to soups stews etc etc. Leaf production in a pot is very severely reduced as the tree and root system does not grow freely. The trunks on some of the trees here are 6-8 inches through the guts now. Tipping and pruning also gives a bigger canopy to trees in the ground.

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Hasan Mahboob says...
My moringa tree is 4 years old. Very healthy lots of fresh leaves. Lots of flowers but no pods, why? Can any one gove me some pointers?

Time: 14th January 2018 11:41am

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afsariq says...
Hello Hasan,

Two most essential elements in growing Moringa trees, at least 8 hours of full sun and a good balanced water soluble fertilizer every 15 days in growing season.
I keep my big pots on the southeast side and feed them with Miracle Grow water soluble fertilizer every two weeks.
I get approximately 100 or more moringa pods 20-24” long between the two trees.

Try it!
Good luck!!!
Afsar Iqbal
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rustynutz says...
One tree or multiples?
There are 6 here and they all flower and pod up year round. Perhaps if it is a single tree there is a delay. These trees are 10 years old now.

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coolbreeze says...
From personal experience, I think I would have to agree with rustynutz. I had 2 seedlings in the same pot which pretty much stopped growth completely for about 3 months. After seeing that I transplanted them out front of the house into the ground and new growth has been tremendous. They almost tripled in size in less than 2 months in ground. Mind you, they did also get more direct sunlight been in front of the house. That could have also helped the cause.
Once they both reached about 1.5m tall, I chopped one of them down by 2/3rds and this has made it a lot more bushy also. So bushy in fact that I deeply regret not separating the two before planting them in the ground. They seem squashed next to each other now. However they chopped plant has almost caught back up to the other one in height now but with 3 main branches instead of just the one.
With the branch that I cut off, I used it as a cutting. It is still alive but barely has any growth at all. It keeps growing buds but they keep drying up before actually growing. While the branch is slowly drying up from the bottom. I think it'll be completely dead within a month maybe 2 unless a miracle happens. I guess I'm a believer since I haven't uprooted it yet. I did read somewhere that it is hit and miss with cuttings.
Both plants are in flower at the moment and I love pecking on them while I'm watering. If I get any pods I will save one for seeds and plant more from seeds. Ideally I want 3 bushy plants so I can eat one then let it regrow while I move onto the next, circling the 3. The leaves are good added to almost any dish.
Do you always get pods after flowering or do I need to do anything??

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rustynutz says...
Howdy, Nah pretty much pods every year if you leave the flowers on the tree. Some people eat them and the pods as well from my understanding.

Time: 30th January 2018 7:48am

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rustynutz says...
Tatses like peppery watercress.

Time: 30th January 2018 7:49am

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coolbreeze says...
Hey Rusty,
Yeh people do eat the flowers and pods. My family is waiting and hoping that the pods form so we can eat them. It's part of the reason for growing them besides the leaves of course. Will definitely be saving the first one for seeds though.
So are the pods stronger in flavour than the leaves?
Do you eat them and if so how do you prepare?

Funny how you described it as 'like peppery watercress' as watercress has always tasted peppery to me already. hehe. Hope that made sense.

Time: 30th January 2018 11:56am

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rustynutz says...
Hi,
My wifes people do not eat the seed pod, just the leaves. And I think from memory I have seen some talk of eating the roots of the young trees as well. Not sure how they prepare the seed pods for eating. You can also run the seeds through an oil screw press for oil!
Russ

Time: 31st January 2018 10:57pm

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coolbreeze says...
Hey again Rusty,
Did you get pods after flowering for the first time or was it the year after? Have been keeping a close eye on my plant and entire flowering clusters are drying up and dropping off...along with the green, tiny pods (10-15mm). Still lots of flower clusters remaining so I'm hoping some will eventually stick. Any thoughts on why? Maybe my plant is still too young?
Moringa oil as well aye. First time hearing bout it for me. Sounds very interesting though. Hmmmm. Is it medicinal or for cooking? Have you used it for anything yet?



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miwin1000 says...
I planted Moringa seeds in 1/2 composted manure and 1/2 top soil, keep the pots in
partial shade...they sprouted in 1 week and have grown prolifically since. at 2 months old they are at least 3' tall or taller. I live in central Arizona US in a valley where we have monsoon season in July, August and maybe part of September. the rest of the year is either hot or cold. These have not gone thru a winter yet so I don't know how they'll fair. I do plan to protect them by either bringing them inside or covering and keeping on the hot side of the house. (Southside gets full sun all day, Northside gets partial sun, but mostly shade.) Elevation is 3300'

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miwin1000 says...
Try adding some Azomite and some Worm Tea...you have to feed your Moringa in order for your Moringa to feed you....

Time: 27th August 2018 2:40pm

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Julie says...
We have fairly mild winters in Western Australia, but it still gets pretty cold at night in the hills, down to 3C. My Moringa in a pot loses its leaves, but they come back again in spring.

Time: 28th August 2018 6:57pm

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rustynutz says...
They can flower in the first year if given an early start and good conditions.

Time: 10th September 2018 8:28pm

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Surendra says...
The tree likes water but the water must drain out. if the soil is too soggy then the plant will rot away.

Time: 11th September 2018 9:20pm

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Surendra says...
I eat leaves and fruits cooked as curry or put in dhal (Lentil soup)

Time: 11th September 2018 9:22pm

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kenlovell1 says...
I have an absolute bumber crop of pods this year and I've been enjoying the seeds like peas, either boiled or stir-fried. You can also steam the whole pod, let it cool, and scrape out all the insides, flesh and seeds. To be honest it wasn't memorable by itself, although I'm sure you could make something of it with some herbs and spices.

To eat the pods whole, they need to be picked when they're very young - no more than 3mm in diametre. It's a stretch to say they taste like asparagus, but they make a pleasant change from beans.

By the way both my trees have blown over in storms - twice, one of them - so heed the advice early in the thread to keep them well pruned.

Time: 31st January 2020 4:04pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Ken

Happy to hear your moringa success. I grew up with moringa in our backyard in the Philippines where we always used it in our cooking (fruits and leaves). I just ordered one from Daleys to grow it here in unfamiliar and hostile territory for moringa (Melbourne) where it needs a tropical climate for optimum growth. Anyhow, I'll grow it outside during the warmer months outdoors and into my sheltered pergola during winter time.
Happy gardening 😎

Time: 1st February 2020 12:48pm

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cranbrook says...
Hi I have a Moringa tree I grew it from seed it is about 8 to 9 feet tall has one trunk only last year and this year it gave lots of flowers, this year it also giving me lots of flowers and baby fruit but then die off the fruit does not mature why? it is in a large pot has plenty of chicken droppings the plant is not under stress it is under a shade cloth greenhouse, getting frustrated can you help please Peter from Cranbrook W,A

Time: 2nd March 2020 7:43am

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kenlovell1 says...
Mine was only good for leaves in a pot. It's only since I've been growing them in the ground they've produced lots of pods. They're mulched with wood chip but never get fertilized or watered.

Time: 2nd March 2020 6:50pm

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Izzi Dole says...
Following my last blog of 22 February 2017 I relocated to the Gold Coast from Sydney in 2018 and planted the Moringa plant which was in a small pot only about 18 inches tall in the ground in my new property.It took off like a rocket and within an year of planting shot up to about 3 met high and in less than two years the tree has grown to almost 5 met. high. Last week I had to prune some of the branches. The variety I planted produces lots of leaves and white flowers which we use for cooking and for smoothie.The tree produces only small beans and no pods. I am now looking for a plant which produces long pods which we use to make a delicious curry. The plant that produces only small beans have leaf lets that are long while the tree that has pods have leaf lets that are small and rounded.

Time: 9th March 2020 10:52am

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peterhaha says...
hi , go to your botanic gardens, and find the diggers shop. there you should find the seeds, under, the miracle tree(moringa oleifera)
or
you can order online from the diggers club.

you can eat all of the tree, but the leaves, fresh off the tree, or stir fry.
the flowers taste slightly peppery.
live in Adelaide and just growing my first tree. about three foot tall at the moment. grows fast.
best of luck, peter.

Time: 16th March 2020 6:27pm

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Johns66 says...
Hi Mrs Turner just read your post and wondering if you still have Drumstick Tree as I would love to get a cutting I live in Adamstown and would be happy to come by when it suits youu to get a cutting if available.
Kind Regards
Flavia

Time: 20th January 2022 12:34am

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Julie says...
John, did you note the OP was in 2007? That's 15 years ago! I doubt you will get a reply. You can buy seeds on eBay.

Time: 20th January 2022 3:54pm

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Susan3 says...
Sorry John for the delayed response. I do not live in Belmont anymore. We moved to Port Stephens. Besides the variety of morringa I have is non fruiting and the leaves are narrower. I highly recommend to get a variety that definitely fruit as there is a difference. It is very easy to prepare the seed pod for cooking. Harvest the pods while still green and plump. Slice the pod lengthwise in to four sections with a sharp knife, then run the knife flat between the skin and flesh with seeds. If you have difficulty in slicing the pod you can cut them into 5 centimetre long pieces then do as above.

Time: 26th January 2022 6:58pm

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Farsana says...
Hi, Drumstick trees have lot of health benefits.Both drumstick and its leaves are good for health.


Time: 21st February 2022 4:42pm

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