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Please comment your favourite fruit tree as i would like some ideas

Time: 17th March 2014 10:52am

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JohnMc1 says...
Hi Nat,
My favourite fruit tree changes with the seasons right now, dragonfruit is my favourite because I'm picking a beautiful large fruit off it every day. Last few months it was Jujube.

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Time: 17th March 2014 5:23pm

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Nat says...
Thanks for that at the moment i have some pomegranate and carambolas fruiting and they are probably some of my favourites

Time: 17th March 2014 6:46pm

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Jason says...
I wanted to make a post like this to discuss your favourite trees because I've noticed my favourite tree changes almost every season.

Over the 14 years I've been growing fruit trees I've gone from having a Bacon Avocado as my favourite to a mandarin, to a Cherimoya. Then I was really proud of some White sapotes.

Then my most awesome Hass Avocado, recently with age of the trees and some finally coming into bearing I've seen Macadamia's are an extremely useful tree and Fig's, figs are amazing.

I think for the next few years my favourites will be one of a few Macadamia's, Figs and Avocados as I've found those to be the most beneficial trees as far as nutrients and ease of growth go. I always love my Bunya pine even if it wont have cones for years because it looks amazing always ever since it was tiny.

Time: 17th March 2014 8:45pm

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Jason says...
I need a Jujube this year too I've finally decided.

Time: 17th March 2014 8:46pm

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Nat says...
Ive heard a lot about jujubes but never seen or tasted them are they very tasty

Time: 17th March 2014 9:18pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Jujubes are an excellent addition, I love them, very sweet and tasty. You can eat them fresh and crunchy like an apple, or leave them on the tree to dry and shrivel up like a date. They are just as nice either way. I can't leave them on the tree long enough for them to dry out. In my experience they have been a little temperamental to get established, ie they need plenty of water in the growing season and organic fertilizers after starting to shoot late spring. They are drought tolerant but will produce better with regular water during the fruiting period.
We have a member here that sells bare rooted grafted varieties around June, for (previous past years) $65 + post. Highly recommended.
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Time: 18th March 2014 5:59pm

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BJ says...
Jujube are nice. Some are a bit like an astringent apple, but get a almost caramel note when dried. They can be hell to grow though. They have a node about 4 inches below the soil that throws up suckers.

Time: 18th March 2014 9:38pm

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BJ says...
Nat, do you have any trees already? You'd be hard pressed to go past some classics like a good jackfruit, Marang, atemoya, rollinia, star apple and Abiu. My favorites are mamey and green sapotes. Then there are the jaboticabas, which should not be missed. You might be okay with breadfruit in yeppoon...

Time: 18th March 2014 9:42pm

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sternus1 says...
I'd recommend trying a range of fruits first. Things like Jackfruit and marang really divide people. Personally I think jackfruit is only good for throwing at rabid monkeys, others consider it to be the fruit of the Gods. Why anyobdy would willfully consume something that smells like football socks and tastes like spoiled quiche is beyond me. It just isn't one of the things I get. You might find yourself in that camp, you might not. Same will go for things like sapote. I find Jaboticaba very average, but rate starfruit above most things, most wouldn't.

Go with the fruits you enjoy first, not with something percieved to be exotic. I would trade most of what I am able to grow in my region for the chance to grow some of the colder fruits, particularly cherries.

Time: 18th March 2014 10:17pm

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Nat says...
Yes i already do have a wide range of trees like yellow jaboticaba not the black one though, star fruit grumichama pomegranate loquat dragon fruit and many more but i am always looking for more and thankyou for the many suggestions as i will look into them more

Time: 19th March 2014 7:59am

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VF says...
Hi Nat, another fruit that should grow well for you would be Sapodilla - descriptions of the fruit tasting like pear stewed in brown sugar is pretty close. Very delicious if you like sweet fruits (not the prettiest though). Canistel also very nice if you like a thick-textured sweet fruit.

Just noticed that both Marang and Fijian Longan are 'in production' with Daleys atm. If only my climate was a little warmer....

Time: 19th March 2014 5:21pm

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Nat says...
Yeah sapodilla wouldnt be too bad. I was thinking about an ice cream bean but i didnt think i had the room so i started reseaching and different sources told me different sizes 15m x 15m, 5-8 and so on until i came upon a site that told me they were small and up to 4m and sold them for $4.75 and i think im going to settle with that

Time: 19th March 2014 7:45pm

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denise1 says...
sapodillas can be grown in a container to limit size, though I havent tried

Time: 19th March 2014 7:49pm

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Carl76 says...
Have one two years in a 25lt pot, currently dozen marble size fruit on it.

Time: 19th March 2014 8:29pm

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Nat says...
Does growing in a pot make the fruit smaller as well?

Time: 19th March 2014 8:41pm

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Carl76 says...
should'nt think so , but like everything time will tell.

Time: 19th March 2014 9:39pm

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Nat says...
My loquat is flowering for the first time and i am very keen to get some fruit off it. Since it is the first time its flowered does anybody know how long it will take to fruit from the stage it is at
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Time: 20th March 2014 8:28am

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BJ says...
Loquat are quite quick. Some are as quick as a month, others 2.

I wouldnt trust anyone who says Ice Cream Bean tops out at 4m (unless you get the pink dwearf ones). Maybe if grown in a pot in Melbourne, but up round Capricornia you'd be hard pressed to keep it under 15m. The fruit are also quite third-rate. Their best use is as a quick growing shade tree that you would plant something more tender underneath and remove when the smaller plant can fend for itself; as a green manure/mulch producer or as a sacraficial crop for the possums to keep them off your better fruit trees.

Time: 20th March 2014 10:43am

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denise1 says...
I know of a ice cream bean tree that is not a dwarf kind by any means, but it is growing under a bangalow palm which restricts its roots and it wont get taller than 4m . The foliage is quite open, very healthy and gives a small crop of maybe 100 fruit each year.
If the palm were removed it would grow fast to 8 m or more. The restricting factors are half because of root competition and half because of shade from the canopy of palm.

Time: 20th March 2014 11:46am

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Nat says...
A pot also has the same affects

Time: 20th March 2014 7:20pm

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Nat says...
I am devastated, i went to check on my pomegranate and found that 1 of three tiny fruits had fallen off

Time: 20th March 2014 8:46pm

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Linton says...
Simply the Best - Asimina triloba!

Just ate this plump fruit off one of the grafted Asimina trees that have produced fruit in the first year of planting.

The flavour was exquisite and is far better than anything else I have growing in my garden.

The trees are very hardy to dry conditions and suffered only a little bit of leaf burn during the 40 degree days. So with all factors combined, it has to be my favourite tree.
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Time: 23rd March 2014 9:36pm

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Jantina says...
Congrats Linton, what variety is it? I tasted an un-named variety a few years ago and thought it utterly delicious.

Corey what have you done to the system? It won't let me log in sometimes, deletes stuff sometimes and takes me in circles sometimes, all totally random as far as I can tell. Please fix it back to how it was.

Time: 24th March 2014 9:28am

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Tommoz says...
Nat if you have a really moist place for a mangosteen you could grow that.

If you want to be a guinea pig then get the ultra low chill sweet cherry from Fleming: Minnie Royal - Royal Lee double graft. You will get fruit, it's a question of how much.

Time: 24th March 2014 11:12am

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Linton says...
Hi Jantina

Yes, the flavour of the fruit is fantastic but indescribable.

The grafted trees are not cultivars, they are the ones from Perrys and are nearly 2 feet high now. I also have larger non grafted 6 year old trees from Cascade Nursery all of which have flowered but no fruit this season. I expect all of the trees to start producing by the end of this year.


Time: 24th March 2014 5:23pm

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Jantina says...
I'm jealous.

Time: 24th March 2014 11:42pm

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kim14 says...
Not another one! I'm off to google Asimina Triloba. :)

Time: 25th March 2014 7:46pm

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sternus1 says...
Nat,

at yeppoon, you could probably grow the best fruit there is; purple mangosteen. The queen of fruits. You could also grow rambutan, langsat, and pretty much the best of the best tropical fruits. Dragon fruit will go nuts.

You will never be able to grow cherries in yeppoon--not nearly enough chill, us brisbanites cannot even grow them in 99% of places. You might get a fig going, but it will never do well.

Time: 25th March 2014 8:31pm

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Mike Tr says...
Nat there is a real mix of suggestions that includes species that prefer in cooler and hotter than your area. It is best to go with those best suited to your patch.Some that are well suited are atemoyas,sapodillas,canistels,black sapotes, particular citrus and avos,mangoes,bananas, flavicarpa passionfruit,all jaboticabas,all Eugenias,all guavas,all dragonfruit and so much more.You have a lot of choices.

Time: 25th March 2014 9:18pm

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Nat says...
Mangosteen looks really good but does anyone know how wide they will grow and will they gro in subtropical region well

Time: 28th March 2014 8:53am

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trikus says...
Forget about purple mangosteen ...


Time: 28th March 2014 10:09am

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Nat says...
Why???

Time: 28th March 2014 5:47pm

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Mike Tr says...
Nat it is too cool.Your only hope is the borneo small leafed mangosteen like the larger reddish ones in this shot from a couple of weeks ago.
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Time: 28th March 2014 8:16pm

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Tommoz says...
Purple mangosteen is a large tropical tree, very sensitive to wind/frost and like I mentioned needs constant moisture. If you provide for these issues then I don't see what else would be the problem.

I will stick by what I said about the ultra low chill cherries. But you would have to put an order for it before spring. This guy is in Southern California and claimed fruit set in an area with zero chill hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQaCfQz4PI

Time: 28th March 2014 8:32pm

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VF says...
BJ in Brisbane has/ had one growing in a sheltered position. Not sure of status atm.

Time: 28th March 2014 11:27pm

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sternus1 says...
BJ is probably kidding himself with that one though. If he pulls it off it will be a great achievement, and I hope he does. The guy who runs theo's nursery told me a while back he knows a fruiting purple mangosteen in brisbane. I won't say it is impossible to grow here in Bris but yeah, you'd have to be on to it all the time and the first cold snap would wipe it out in a heartbeat. I just stick to other Garcinia (my two mexicans are doing well) like achacha.

Time: 29th March 2014 8:35am

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ivepeters says...
We all live in hope.

Hope my diggers stuff has survived traveling a week so far, with Auspost.

My purple has doubled in height since I got it from daley's , and that's with near to neglect,apart from watering and covering it in plastic during the past winter.

So only time will tell.



Time: 29th March 2014 11:24am

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sternus1 says...

Flooding is better than baking ive. They should get to you ok. Pretty gross today though, not sure what the humidity is at but it isn't friendly.

I was blown away yesterday when I received two trees in good condition from Daleys (picone rolly, has little flower buds on it ).

I grew a purple mangosteen from seed but Killed it when it wasn't much bigger than a sprout, haven't tried since. If you had a good micro climate I reckon it is doable, the main issue is that they're pretty big before they bear fruit and at that size it is hard to shelter them from the cold. A lot of them just never fruit and this isn't really understood.

I'd pretty much trade any tree I have for a fruiting purple. I spend a fortune on them every season, my favorite fruit.



Time: 29th March 2014 12:31pm

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Nat says...
Does the purple mangosteen taste similar to the achacha as they are related and i think i might have a go at it maybe from seed as it is cheaper if it dies

Time: 29th March 2014 12:43pm

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sternus1 says...
Well the achacha won't die. You're golden with that garcinia. Much, much tougher than the purple mangosteen.

Purple mangosteen tastes considerably better than achacha in my opinion--though that said, achacha is really, really, really good. Try to understand that I think purple mangosteen is better than anything by miles.

I wouldn't grow one from seed, you'll be waiting forever (you'll be waiting forever as it is, but there are degrees of boredom as I'm sure you know).

Buy one from Daleys.

I recommend Abiu too. Should do very well where you're at. I still think mangosteen is worth a shot in your locale, but you'll have to coddle it for many years, and it might lead to heartbreak.

Time: 29th March 2014 12:52pm

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Nat says...
Abiu, thats in the sapotceae family, right? Yeah i think i might try the purple mangosteen when it comes in stock from daleys and was also wondering about this email from daleys thanking mae for my purchase and they have said i can have one free plant is that just from that one page it links to (rewards page)

Time: 29th March 2014 1:14pm

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sternus1 says...
Yes, the rewards page. They're doing themselves more of a favor than you with that, but the Mexican cream guava is worth getting if you don't have one.


Time: 29th March 2014 1:48pm

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Nat says...
So it is free?

Time: 29th March 2014 1:56pm

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sternus1 says...
Yes and no. You still have to pay shipping.

Time: 29th March 2014 2:11pm

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Nat says...
Thats no too bad. I think i still might wait for the mangosteen I've decided to have a go

Time: 29th March 2014 2:27pm

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Nat says...
Does anyone know the germination rate of a purple mangosteen seed

Time: 29th March 2014 5:25pm

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denise1 says...
I put in 18 seeds a few weeks ago and 14 are up or nearly up. the seeds were probably a week old.

Time: 29th March 2014 7:58pm

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Mike Tr says...
They can take a while and are prone to rotting.I would give the seeds about 10 weeks before giving up.

Different cultivars vary in fruit size,taste,tree tolerances and leaf shape.98% in Australia is the common thai/malysian type which struggles below 7c.
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Time: 29th March 2014 8:18pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
I grew a Qld mangosteen Garcinia warrenii, seedlings had a huge taproot, and didn't like to be repotted. Any advice on purple mangosteen ? similar ?

Time: 29th March 2014 8:52pm

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Nat says...
think i might just wait for daleys to restock it as it is far cheaper than most other sources

Time: 29th March 2014 8:54pm

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Nat says...
What time is daleys likely to restock the mangosteen

Time: 30th March 2014 10:05am

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Nat says...
Will a green house have the same affects as a glass house

Time: 31st March 2014 4:37pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Nat, a greenhouse is usually covered in shadecloth of varying shade densities. They only really serve one purpose, that's to control the amount of sun hitting the plants underneath or maybe control insects to some degree..
With a glasshouse, you have total climate control. You can adjust/raise the heat, humidity and Co2 amongst other things to simulate virtually any climate you so desire.
I've been constructing a largish poly house over the past two years to simulate a tropical equatorial climate. The size will be 12m long by 6m wide by 3.6m high. I've been contemplating differing methods of heating for that period over a few hours in the early morning over the deepest of winter.

Time: 31st March 2014 6:02pm

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trikuslaptop1 says...
large tanks heated with solar and aquarium inserts might radiate enough warmth ..watering with warm water also . 1000lt pallet tanks are cheap now .

Time: 31st March 2014 10:53pm

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BJ says...
I pulled my Purple Mangosteen a few weeks back. It wasnt dead, but was never going to thrive. I had it in ground for maybe 3.5 years - 1.6m tall. It grew, but had stunted leaves etc. I totally neglected it, other than giving it a spot protected from the wind. I'm also in the hills toward the western part of town, so not a great micro-climate for them. After pulling it up the roots appeared to be fighting a root fungus, with roots turning black, then shooting new smaller white roots from the old ones. If someone had a spot in a good coastal micro protected from the wind and cared for the plant and gave it a bit of phosacid etc, then it may be possible.

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amanda19 says...
JohnMc - are you going to use that polycarbonate sheeting that is has more solar insulation properties..?
I am also trying to decide what to use to clad mine..?
http://www.bunnings.com.au/sunlite-polycarb-roofing-8mm-3m-clr-twinwall-sl8cl3-0_p1010565


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Nat says...
I have a problem with my loquat a lot of the leaves are going yellow and to make matters worse grasshopers/locusts not sure which are constantly eating the leaves please help

Time: 6th April 2014 3:47pm

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sternus1 says...
Loquats are pretty touch, and can survive a range of soil types. They do like a lot of moisture in the soil though.

How big is it?

Time: 6th April 2014 4:46pm

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Nat says...
A bit over three metres and is flowering for the first time

Time: 6th April 2014 6:26pm

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sternus1 says...
It is hard to diagnose things without pictures. Is the plant mulched? Is it mulched too high and is this causing collar rot? It might be sitting in waterlogged soil, it might be getting underwatered. Could be a range of things, very hard to know without pics.


Time: 6th April 2014 7:21pm

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Nat says...
I will post some pictures tomorrow but do u know how to get rid of locusts/grasshoper not sure which it is (big grasshopper)

Time: 6th April 2014 8:50pm

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