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Do you find juicing of fruits and vegetables good for the health?

Time: 5th November 2013 2:40pm

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Time: 5th November 2013 2:43pm

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Time: 5th November 2013 2:46pm

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ivepeters says...
I feel an info-commercial coming on.

Time: 5th November 2013 3:00pm

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MaryT says...
Time to get a cup of tea. :)

Time: 5th November 2013 4:33pm

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Read: Not an advertisement ONLY FACTUAL about Juicing Benefits

Whether you add fresh juices into your daily lifestyle r occasionally drink only juices for a cleansing and detoxification fast, you will benefit tremendously.

*Improved Digestion

*Body Purification

*Juicing Transforms Your Existing Poor Diet to Extremely Healthy and Vital in a Short Time.

*Juicing Reforms Eating Habits Easily

*Juicing Reduces Cravings For Devitalized Food

*Body Purification

*Juicing Enhances Intelligence of the Entire Body

*Juicing Improves Your State of Health

*Losing Weight



Time: 16th January 2014 5:13pm

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Boris Spasky says...
A hard earned thirst needs a big cold beer....matter of fact I've got it now.
Sorry, but the apple, carrot and ginger juice just doesn't cut it.

Time: 16th January 2014 8:52pm

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Mike Tr says...
Some words have red flags attached. Devitalized,cleansing,purification and especially detoxification scream bogusness but the add never came. Juice is good if you can keep a lid on the sugar intake.

Time: 16th January 2014 9:55pm

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David says...
So true Mike just heard a doco in the car coming home from work talking about FRUCTOSE, and how bad excessive use of it is for you.

Time: 16th January 2014 9:59pm

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gimme says...
I made tamarind cordial recently. I've been enjoying it on these summer nights on ice, Delicious!


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Time: 16th January 2014 10:50pm

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MaryT says...
An occasional juice probably can't hurt if you find it enjoyable though as a diabetic even that can be harmful because of the high sugar content. Eating the food in that blender would be healthier. On the subject of juicer/blenders I suspect a lot of hype about juicing is generated by the manufacturers/retailers of such appliances, many of them overpriced. I wouldn't believe any of it.

Time: 17th January 2014 6:17am

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ylr says...
tamarind juice is quite different. let me try it :)

Time: 17th January 2014 12:34pm

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ylr says...
Thanks for all your ideas :) at least we can all share what we know. that's how a thread should be. People reading would learn from us all. I think just don't overdo juicing. For some people it is beneficial but i guess for some its not.

Some prefer a juicer but for some, blender is what they need.For some people they can afford a juicer but for others they just opt to have a blender.

Time: 17th January 2014 12:40pm

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phil@tyalgum says...
Yes the truth about fructose seems to be coming to light, it is thought to give you an insulin surge which is responsible for laying down extra fat. Think of how many apples you would be able to eat at one sitting (not many) compared to how many you would juice for a single glass.. vegetable juices don't seem to have the adverse effects however.

Time: 17th January 2014 12:56pm

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MaryT says...
Yes, Phil; vegetables are generally better if you must have juice though carrots are quite sweet (5% sugar?). The problem is in the amount you need to make juice, as you said.

Time: 17th January 2014 1:07pm

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phil@tyalgum says...
I'm on a "no grain" diet, have shed six kilos in about a month and the fellow who advocates the plan advises not to eat fruit in the early stages. It's difficult when I live in a subtropical fruit-lovers paradise, have cheated a few times as one can imagine :-( My mangoes are having their best year yet, some of the R2E2 are almost half the size of my head. Luckily they freeze well once cheeked.

Time: 17th January 2014 1:45pm

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Mike Tr says...
Phil I didn't know you were the type to go against the grain or have cheeky mangoes.Fruit season has begun here with durians,marangs,mameys,fiji longans and more in Rusty's.I am tempted to make a juice with achacha,marang,jackfruit,abiu and fiji longan just for the hellavit.

Time: 17th January 2014 2:16pm

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sternus1 says...
Phil the weight loss is due to the removal of starchy carbs (and probably the sugar contained therein). Does work to lose weight, but you could probably do the same thing by cutting out all sugar (this means no Milk, incidentally) be careful with low carb diets; if you start to feel lethargic and irritable and sort of daydreamy then treat yourself to a bowl of quinoa or similar. High protein diets are not all they are cracked up to be, especially if they are high in red meats. We are not actually meant to eat this very often, and in the natural world would have had to work very hard to get it; this is still the case in primitive societies today. Think about it; it takes a lot of energy to run down a pig in the jungle with a spear, but since meat is energy dense, this would have offset the energy out and created an equilibrium. A fair bit different than just buying a kilo of mince from Coles. If you are getting in a good amount of rhizomes it shouldn't be a problem though--but you would need something super starchy, like potato.Make your two main meals breakfast and lunch, and have little to no evening meal( you don't need to fuel your body during sleep, this is the worst dietary convention operational in western society). It depends on the lifestyle you have and what sort of training you're doing also. When I used to train muay thai I'd devour ice-cream tubs of fluffy white rice and pasta with vegetables often twice a day, and was very, very lean. That said, there was some vomit-inducing cardio accompanying that diet. Wouldn't rate my chances of getting even a quarter way through a session these days, its all guitar playing and coco pops at this point in my life :D

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Time: 17th January 2014 2:26pm

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phil@tyalgum says...
Interesting about the milk.. I have just about been living on MaryT's and Jantina's kefir but I guess that is for another thread. Do you guys think that would be ok seeing as the lactose is digested out of it before it is consumed?

Time: 17th January 2014 8:07pm

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Jantina says...
The web of life, including our bodies is so complex and interrelated that I don't think we have even begun to understand it. Add to that, that everyone is a little bit different and no wonder even the "experts" can't agree.
If you find something that works for you then go with it.
When I cut out or greatly reduce refined carbs, mainly sugar in all it's forms and drink raw green juices(as well as regular food) I see improvement in my skin and energy levels within 3 days. Someone else may not have the same results.
Add to that issues like food allergies, emotional eating, acummulated toxins etc etc, the list goes on,no wonder we get confused.

Time: 18th January 2014 8:36am

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sternus1 says...
I have very similar experiences with sugar-cleaving Jantina, and would add that for the first week or so I am often subject to really nasty headaches.

Time: 19th January 2014 8:32am

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ylr says...
Jantina, you're right it seems not all gets the same results when they turn to juicing fruits and vegetables, some are positive, some are not. One thing is for sure though, we really can benefit from this juicing given the fact that we still get nutrients from these fruits and vegetables needed by our body.It might not be sometimes the whole nutrient that we are getting from eating it whole cause it depends on your preparation as well. I remember the question my niece asked me, which is better to prepare fruits and vegetable juice, by using a blender or by using a juicer?

That's another topic to discuss and I'm quite sure not all have the same opinion.

Time: 4th February 2014 3:05pm

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Julie says...
Anyone interested in health and juicing should watch 'Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead'.It's quite inspiring.

Time: 4th February 2014 8:41pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Seen it Julie, an excellent watch. It might be found on Youtube.

"Fat, sick and nearly dead"

Time: 4th February 2014 8:56pm

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Jason says...
I try not to eat any grains, well rice is the occasional exception and drink veggie juice quite often. It helps. No grains I would say is of far more long term health benefit than anything else you can do. It takes a loooong time to change the terrain in your gut and shift to veggie eating bacterial species instead of grain eaters. I've been doing 99% grain free for about 18 months, it's slow going but my digestion is certainly much improved, it's a start.

Time: 5th February 2014 2:07am

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Jason says...
I use a vitamix (blender) by the way for juice. I don't think land based veggies and fruit have all the trace minerals humans need at least not in modern depleted soils they are grown in. I've been considering two ways around that, either drink very small amounts of sea water or drink mud from a really good source. Haven't tried the sea water yet.. Mud goes good

Time: 5th February 2014 2:10am

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Brendan says...
Please don't drink sea water Jason, it will send you around the twist! Bull Kelp is very good, full of goodies :-)

Time: 5th February 2014 9:33am

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Jantina says...
Just be aware of where you get the bull kelp. There are people here who still fish at Finger Point (local sewerage outlet into the sea) all the sewerage from Mt Gambier ends up there including all the waste from the hospital. Makes you wonder.
We had our soil tested for minerals and then had a personalised mix made up containing the missing minerals as well as soil good bacteria etc. It was a bit of a hassle spreading it all without big farm machinery but worth it I believe. We have to do it a few more times to bring the Brix level of plants up to where it should be. I also made up a mineral lick for my cows and that was the end of any mastitis and therefore no need of antibiotics which only fix the problem in the short term but makes more long term problems.

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Brendan says...
Hi Jantina, I couldn't find the kelp I used to buy at the health shop in Mky, but found this on ebay australia:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Starwest-Botanicals-Kelp-Powder-Organic-1-lb-453grams-Fresh-And-Sealed-/171219134460?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27dd74a7fc#ht_2258wt_1122

It supposed to be organic :-)

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Jantina says...
You're a good man Brendan, thanks.

Time: 8th February 2014 12:23am

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jeremiahdobson says...
The solely thanks to very get the foremost from fruits and veggies is to eat them raw or only slightly steamed. cookery and alternative process alters some parts creating them more durable for your body to method and find the foremost out of them. Juices ar handy after you do not have time to prevent and eat the fruit however the a lot of stuff that's done to the food before it gets to the grocers shelf the less there's in it for you. Natural is best. Our bodies developed to eat raw or unprocessed food and that we haven't been evolving within the industrial age long enough for that to own modified any.

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MaryT says...
I don't know about you jeremiahdobson but according to archeological evidence we Chinese have been eating cooked food for hundreds of thousands of years; that is pre industrial age, I think. And raw food is almost totally absent from our traditional diet though with global influence even I eat a salad sometimes. It hasn't killed me yet but I don't over do it. :)

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ylr says...
Jason,
"Jason says...
I try not to eat any grains, well rice is the occasional exception and drink veggie juice quite often. It helps. No grains I would say is of far more long term health benefit than anything else you can do. It takes a loooong time to change the terrain in your gut and shift to veggie eating bacterial species instead of grain eaters. I've been doing 99% grain free for about 18 months, it's slow going but my digestion is certainly much improved, it's a start."

~ I agree, with grain free too plus green juicing it's effective for me also. I remember also when i do exercise, less carb and grain plus juicing vegetables and fruits it significantly changed my digestion.

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Mike Tr says...
jdobson cooking is actually positive for many vegeies in allowing nutrients to be more accessible.I do prefer potatoes,sweet potatoes,taro and if fact most root vegies cooked.I suppose that is the same for pumpkin,garlic,brussell sprouts,eggplants and a whole lot more.Mary is correct in that fire to cook food predates Homo sapien sapien and even H.erectus cooked in fires hundreds of millenia ago.

Time: 18th February 2014 4:09pm

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Jason says...
One expert in Human evolution and nutrition suggested the only thing better than fire for unlocking nutrients is a blender :P lol.

My doctor looked at me really funny the other day when I told him my son doesn't do grains. He said not even rice? I said not yet.. Grains are killing everyone. He replied ok I agree with you wheat and corn are killing everyone but surely some rice will be ok?. I told him one day.. regarding the rice:).

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Yes Mike, but those early Human species who used fire to cook are now long extinct, but Raw Food Apes(chimps, gorillas, orang's) are still around.

Time: 19th February 2014 6:12am

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MaryT says...
The use of fire had not reached Australia when I arrived in the sixties, judging from the food I encountered. No wonder they prefer to eat it raw; but I think some people have realised that if you cook food correctly you retain most nutrients not to mention improve the flavour.:) Yes, chimps, gorillas, ranga's eat raw food jakfruit etiquette :)

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Mike Tr says...
H.sapiens 180 00 - 200 000 years ago in places like Ethiopia used to cook and the H.erectus who cooked well before that are our ancestors.
Cooking coincided with an explosive expansion,success and diversification and might have had something to do with it.Raw taro,yams and cassava are not my cup of tea.

Time: 19th February 2014 8:48am

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sternus1 says...
Wok cooking is probably the healthiest method of cooking. I'm gradually developing my wok skills, but I'm not Poh. I tend to blacken things and produce unevenly cooked food. I persist with it despite the poor results.

Time: 19th February 2014 3:01pm

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ylr says...
thats also good wok cooking..It is also important to clean your wok after each use. Also season your wok before using it for the first time. Seasoning removes the preservative oil manufacturers place on the wok to prevent rust, replacing it with a light coating of cooking oil.its good to have a variety of how you eat vegetables, either by wok cooking or juicing..when my laziness to cook strikes me? juicing is the answer!

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