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Hi All,
Does anyone (in Australia) on this forum grow good garlic? If so, would it be possible to buy/beg some?
I grow some, but I'm after a larger clove type, (not Giant Russian.)
I don't care what colour it is. The garlic I grow is purple-ish.
Thanks.

Time: 14th September 2009 5:38am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Brendan,

I grow my own and I found that bigger clove gives you bigger bulb. I buy the Chinese one and leave it in the kitchen and when the top is a bit green I then separate the cloves and plant them.

I accidently discovered that the pot (I added lots of lime 6 months before growing garlic) had the biggest bulbs. It could be the case that the soil in the pot was worn out and too acidic at the time.

I sometimes buy Australian garlic if they are on special and grow it. I give it some potash every now and then.

Time: 14th September 2009 7:47am

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Brendan says...
Hi Jujube,
I've tried heaps of times to grow chinese / mexican garlic, but it just doesn't grow here? Maybe the climate? I was told that it's either irradiated or treated with a growth retardent to stop it sprouting?

I remember Peter Cundall saying you can nearly grow garlic in pure dolomite, so it seems it likes a sweet soil!

Yeah, I only plant the outside bigger cloves too, that seems to be the way to go.

Proper garlic fertilizer is supposed to have an NPK of 5:10:10. I can't buy anything like that here, so I'll try to make up a brew of my own.

Time: 15th September 2009 5:51am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Brendan,

I only grow garlic in Autumn around April when the weather getting cooler.

This year I follow instructions from the following webpage which said I only need to give my plants nitrogen. I tested one the other day and I found not much of a bulb just like a young leek so I added some potash and see if it helps.

http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5251.html

Good luck with your garlic growing project.




Time: 15th September 2009 7:50am

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Brendan says...
Hi Jujube,
Thanks for your info and web site. Very good.

I thought someone else in this forum might be able to help too, anyone?

I like the NPK 5:10:10 thing, because potato fertilizer NPK is 4:7:7, it appears that things growing under the ground need lots of P & K, I think :-)

Time: 16th September 2009 6:58am

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amanda says...
Hi Brendan - Pete Cundall says that spuds love potash and not too much nitrogen - I grow mine like this and get lovely spuds (potash also helps keep the soil slightly acidic and thus less scab) He also says not to give onions too much nitrogen as they develop a bull neck and it reduces storage life? I would have thought garlic the same - but there u go!?

They do like sweet soil and I read somewhere that u plant garlic on the shortest day and harvest on the longest day of the year..this has never worked for me! They (allium) are one of the slowest crops tho' .. they muck up my rotations as I can't clear the bed for ages while the are in there :-(

Diggers club has a great selection of garlics!

Time: 16th September 2009 9:37am

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Julie says...
amanda, potash actually makes the soil more alkaline. Although it obviously depends on your source of potash - they can vary between 6.5 - 9.5. What sort of potash do you use?

Seaweed is a fair source of potash, and you seem to be using a fair bit of that.So eventually you probably won't need to add any more.

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amanda says...
Hi Julie - must pH test it! I assumed that as it was potassium sulphate that the sulphate would make it more acidic.

Time: 16th September 2009 9:15pm

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Julie says...
Yeah, potassium sulphate is probably on the lower end of the scale. Maybe 6.5, rather than 9.

Time: 17th September 2009 3:11pm

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Brendan says...
Hi All,
Is it true that the 'best' time to plant garlic is the 'Autumn Equinox'?, which this year is 21st this month (March).

We had 1006mm rain last month (Feb), and it's way too wet to think about planting anything. Maybe rice?

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amanda says...
Rain! sounds lovely brendan! You could always get them going in pots and then plant out later if u are not sure - you would want to be harvesting in the dry season tho'? maybe it needs to be the other way round in the tropics?
Good question!

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Garlic needs winter chill- so planting in late Autumn is a good idea.

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RE Potassium Sulphate K2SO4 - It contains sulphur but as it is already converted to sulphate (SO4) there are no hydrogen ions H+ left to be release to the soil hence no pH depression.

Unlike elemental sulphur added to water and air.
2S + 2H20 + 02 = 4H+ + 2SO4-

IF that makes any sense at all :)

Also, this link is very simply yet informative. http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~blpprt/lowerpH.html

If you live in Perth plains you most likely need to reduce your pH, my raised beds are 8 plus and I am slowly dropping this to 6.5. Its a slow process unless you use sulphur, and I don't recommend a lot of this at once.

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Brendan says...
Hi Amanda,
Yeah, planting the garlic in pots is a good idea, only problem, I'm planning on planting ~ 120 garlic cloves, and I don't have that many pots. I eat a 'shipload' of garlic (wife does too, lucky hey :)

The 120 bulbs might be enough to last the whole year, but then I need another 120 cloves to plant the following year :-(

Time: 4th March 2010 7:21am

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amanda says...
Hey Brandan - is there a grower nearby that u can ask? There must be someone up your way? They would have loads of local advice.
That is "shiploads"! U guys won't get stomach cancer in a hurry that's for sure! (apparently Italians have the lowest rate of this in the world - it's been put down the copious amounts of garlic in their diet)

PS - haven'tforgotten about your tropical lima beans - waiting on more seed :-o

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Jantina says...
Hi Brendan,years ago my then husband and I grew garlic as a business and did some research before starting out. Basically (remember this is for the southern states) garlic gets planted around the autumn break (when the rains come)grows it's leaves during the colder weather, then bulbs up during the warmer months and is ready to harvest about January. Prior to this (at least a month) you stop watering so the bulbs mature better (and keep better). Also late watering can result in discoloured bulbs which doesn't have any real effect for the home grower but is disasterous for a commercial grower.
Apparently they grow good garlic up near Swan Hill where it gets fairly hot in the summer, of course they have cool nights in winter too. Nonetheless if I can get a rollinia to flower down here, you should be able to grow garlic up there.
Last winter a patient gave me a few huge garlic bulbs (not elephant garlic)and if it is not breaking quarantine I will send you a few cloves if you like. Of course they may just be big because he is a good gardener.

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Last year was the first year I have grown garlic and it worked very well.
I was very naughty and just brought some of the white garlic from the shops.
I planted it with my apple trees on the 21st of June. It grew well.
I didn't do anything special with the soil. We created our vege beds with organic vege mix. I stopped watering it on the 21st of November and then harvested on the 21st of December.
I hung the bulbs up in the shed.
I am still using them now.
They produced large crunchy cloves which have a very strong garlic smell/flavour.
I am going to do the same this year except I will try purple Australian garlic.

Time: 5th March 2010 1:22pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Tiggerbow, Jantina & Amanda,
Thanks for all the info about garlic.

Tiggerbow, do you know if that garlic you grew was Chinese or Australian? Or from somewhere else?
Graham Ross (?), on Better Homes & Gardens, reckons store bought garlic must have the roots on it to grow. I've seen some Chinese stuff that has no roots :-(

Amanda, yeah, no hurry for the tropical lima beans. Thanks.
Not many people up here grow garlic, it's been said that garlic won't grow above the Tropic of Capricorn(?), well I've proved that theory wrong, I've been growing garlic here in Mackay for ~10 years :-)

Jantina, yes, I would love you to send me some of your garlic. Please send to:
Mr B Higgins
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M/S 895
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Thanking you in advance:-) Brendan.

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

I got the cloves to grow this garlic from green harvest. It is the white hard-neck type. It was grown in soil with compost and dolomite added, nothing else special, but I tried not to let it dry out while bulbs were forming. It's really yummy. I only have one bulb left, so I will have to plant more this time if it is going to last until November. They say plant in April in Queensland, it seems to be right.

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Julie says...
Brendan, the bit about garlic needing the roots left on is not true. I cut all the roots off mine when I store them - they grow new ones! When I have had to rely on store bought garlic I have never had any problems.

Last winter I grew my normal garlic, plus a fair bit of giant garlic. I won't grow the giant one again, I really don't like it that much. It is so mild, you have to use heaps. The only advantage, and probably why busy people like it, is it is very easy to peel.

Give me flavour over convenience any day!

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Brad says...
Garlic doesn't need roots to grow BUT it does need a little bit of the brown stub that the roots grow from. Sometimes a clove can snap off the bulb without this and those cloves will not grow new roots.

If I use store bought garlic (I try to only do this with local produce), I wait for at least some of the cloves to sprout and then put them in the ground. Orientation doesn't have to be vertical, as long as the sprout isn't the lowest height.

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Jantina says...
Julie and Brad are right , the garlic doesn't need the roots, it does need the bit the roots grow from, the basal plate.
Brendan I will send the cloves next week. When I got them out I was a bit dismayed to find they've gone a bit soft but think they are still ok.

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Tiggerbow says...
Hey Brendan,
I am pretty sure it was Chinese garlic. It probably wasn't a very good idea but the results were great. I am going to try some really good Australian garlic this year. Hoping it will do as well.


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amanda says...
I tried chinese and Argentinian garlic - I bought ones that had just started to sprout in the shop. Imports are gassed with bromide - so sometimes they won't grow. The chinese garlic is weird - it grows one huge clove...?

Time: 7th March 2010 11:04am

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Julie says...
That happened to me amanda, when I experimentally grew some in summer.But I wasn't really surprised, I didn't expect them to divide up. I just cut them in halves and put in the freezer.

I have been told imports are treated to stop them sprouting, but I've never had one that didn't grow. I do try and use my own, but I never seem to plant enough. Brad has the right idea!





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amanda says...
Ah - thanks Julie. I never knew u could freeze it until saw those bags in the supermarket freezers!? Do you need to prepare it any special way for freezing?

I never grow enuf either! I am not very good at growing it either :-( I shall keep trying!



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j says...
amanda,nothing to do except for separating the cloves - just freeze in a plastic bag. Goes a bit soft, but that's OK. One good thing about frozen garlic - the skins just slip off with no fiddling! I used to peel each one till I realised this.

Brad, can't find your post where you said you were planting 120 - good for you! But you won't need another 120 bulbs next year. Each bulb should give you half a dozen cloves at least, so you should only need around 20 bulbs.

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amanda says...
Great tip Julie! Peeling garlic drives me nuts with watery eyes! I freeze lemon grass as it's so much easier to cut up when half thawed...

Time: 10th March 2010 12:53am

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Brad says...
Julie - thats because it wasn't me :)

I never seem to grow enough... I was given a bag from a grower last year, planted what I thought was lots, gave some away and yet I've no seed garlic leftover for this year because we ate it all :)

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amanda says...
I got one of these from a camping store for $10. I thought they would be good for storing onions and drying fruit?

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amanda says...
I found these 4 shelf food storers for $10 at a camping store and was thinking of using them for storing onions and drying fruit...? I wanted something bug proof - would they work for drying tomatoes also? I go mad for sundried tom's!
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
What a great idea - I wonder if the mesh is fine enough to keep pantry moths out. I'm getting overrun with them. Was it a chain camping store or a private, one off business? Gonna look out for some myself..

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Julie says...
Hi Phil. I've had no problems with pantry moths for years, though they used to appear every autumn.

I think it's because I freeze all grains for 48 hours when I get them home. This kills the eggs. Be sure not to open till it has returned to room temperature, to avoid condensation. I freeze bean seeds the same way, to kill off weevil eggs.

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amanda says...
Snap Julie!! I was just about to say the same thing ;-) The holes are 1-2mm max - it would be a tight squeeze for them.
The problem with these guys is that they lay the "egg" on the outside of things and the larvae/weevils can burrow in. After freezing I store all susceptible things in good quality airtight containers (they will get thru a cheap and nasty seal) and it saves money in the long run.

I reckon these blue things would be the go for outside drying tho'?

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Jantina says...
Hello Brendan, sent your little package off today, hope it's what you were looking for.

Time: 11th March 2010 9:17pm

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Brendan says...
Hello Jantina,
Thanks very much for that. Maybe I can return the favour by sending you some of my 'purple' type garlic, if you like?

My garlic bed is now ready to plant out, but there's a cyclone brewing up here, so I'll have to wait 'till that's gone!

I'm going to try to plant my garlic on 21st or 22nd of this month, weather permitting:) We don't get much winter up here, but it's cooled up a bit already, probably from all the rain!

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Jantina says...
Thanks Brendan, I already have some purple type of garlic. I really hope it's what you wanted though and am looking forward to hearing how it goes up there.

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Brendan says...
Hi Jantina,
Received your parcel yesterday (Wed), thanks. I was pleasantly surprised. There's a chap near Mackay that grows & sells the exact same garlic, only problem, I think he zaps it in a microwave before he sells it, so yours should grow better.

I have got some of his garlic to grow, but not many actually turned into bulbs, (or cloves).

I'll let you know how your stuff turns out. Thanks again.

Looks like that cyclone is heading our way!! Hope it goes elsewhere.

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Julie says...
I have been growing garlic for years and never seen it flower, apart from the giant variety.

Anyone else had flowering garlic?

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Hi Julie,

Yes, every year at the end of season, some of my garlic plants start to flower and I then quickly harvest them because I was told that the flowering process will make the bulbs shrink.

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Brendan says...
Hi Jantina,
That garlic you sent me is ~ 300mm high already, and it's only been in a month.
How high does it grow normally?
I ended up planting ~ 200 of my own, and my brother has put in over 500!
I can see us at the markets later on in the year, flogging all this garlic :-)
Thanks again.

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Jantina says...
That's great Brendan. Sorry I only got that garlic this year and didn't think to ask the man who gave them to me how big they grow.He gave me some peppers too last friday and said the plants go for 7 years. I asked him how hot they were and he said depends on whether you leave the seeds in or not. Do pepper plants last that long up there? Do you want any seeds of them too? He's an old European bloke so I figure he might have some good vegie varieties.

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Brendan says...
Hi Jantina,
Are those peppers what we call chillies? I know the yanks call 'capsicums' peppers.
Thanks for the offer, but we have lots of different varities up here, and some I reckon are heat 10 on the 1 to 10 heat scale:-) The birds up here spread birds-eye chillies (hence the name?) everywhere in the bush. They are rated heat 9, boy they're hot! Do you want any of these seeds?

Yeah, chillies up here do grow into a bush, and I'd say they last at least 5 years. After that, I just give em a good prune, and off they go again.

Yeah, that garlic you sent me is towering over my normal purple garlic:-) I'm glad I planed it where I did.

Your friend hasn't got any Australian White garlic has he? :-)

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Jantina says...
Yes they are chillies Brendan and yes a few of these birds-eye chilli seeds would be good to try.Thanks. I don't like things too hot but my husband does! As for the Australian White garlic, I'll ask.

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snottiegobble says...
I planted my garlic ( purple) a month ago & away it went. The ones in broad sunshine are about 10 cms high, but the row shaded by other plants is much slower. Seems to be the important factor of getting them growing strongly before the sun gets too low in June.
Never planted garlic this side of June before, they were always very slow & tended to have the roots push the cloves out of the soil which was a nuisance & easy fun for the magpies to play with.
Amanda, you say you freeze lemongrass & I wondered which part of the plant you save for cooking?


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Jantina says...
Hi Brendan, your chilli seeds have arrived thankyou very much. The garlic bloke says the big cloves grow to about 1 metre. Does sound suspiciously like elephant garlic to me! Anyway the cloves are supposed to be delicious roasted whole. No luck with the big Aussie White but I did find 2 sites who claim to sell very large garlic, not the elephant. One was called Glen Large, which was apparently bred up your way and does well up there.
The sites are www.worldislefarm.com.au/sales

and the other is in Vic.
www.garlicfarmsales.com.au

hope I put those addresses in correctly, my track record is not good. Guess it's a bit late to get good garlic stock now but you can get in early next year.


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Brendan says...
Hello Jantina,
Glad you got the chilli seeds. They are supposed to be 'birds-eye' chillies, or the old locals here (older than me!), call them 'Nebo chillies', supposedly they were found at Nebo, a smallish town west of Mackay.
They are very hot.
That big garlic you sent me is ~500mm tall at the moment! The same type of garlic that someone grows around here doesn't seem to be Russian Giant (elephant), as it has fairly hot taste.

I have planted some Aussie White garlic bought from the shops and it's growing real well, so hopefully I might get enough 'seeds' to plant next year :-)

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Damo says...
Floraland mundaring has garlic for sale, 15 cloves for 3 bucks. Its the purple italian type. Bought some yesterday.

Time: 13th May 2010 9:18am

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Diane says...
Hi Brendan,i am researching growing garlic, is there a problem with russian garlic or do you just not like it? Diane

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Brendan says...
Hi Diane,
Many years ago when I first tried Giant Russian garlic, it was virtually tasteless and had a slight taste of milk(?),
it didn't taste like garlic at all. Now there seems to be a new version that has a great hot taste and
it tastes like normal (small) garlic:-)
I'm growing 'normal' garlic and some of the newish giant type. It's not sold as Giant Russian up here, and no one seems to know what it is?
but boy, some of it is HOT!

It's probably too late to plant garlic this year, but see if you can get some Glen Large, as it's been bred in Qld.
I try to plant around the Autumn Equinox in March, but we had cyclone Ului on that very day!
Garlic needs a rich, well drained loose soil (what doesn't?:-).

Time: 21st June 2010 6:38am

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Rev says...
Hi Brendan

Im in Townsville and id really like to talk to you about getting some garlic starters, or stock for next year
or this
i dont mind getting rounds
what you are doing is great. pushing the envelope on garlic. it may acclimate over time

ive been wondering because it originates in cold dry central asia
but its popular in places like Indonesia, Malaysia and southern china

i expect they grow it in the highlands, but still it must be more tropically adapted

Time: 22nd June 2010 12:26am

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Rev says...
email reville1@gmail.com

elephany garlic should do fine here
its a leek after all, which are unkillable!

Time: 22nd June 2010 12:28am

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Brendan says...
Hi Rev,
Yeah, no problem. I've taken note of your email address, so I'll get back to you after I pick mine. That 'could' be Sept or Oct or Nov this year.
The 'big' garlic takes longer to mature :-)

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Frogflat says...
Hi folk the over size single garlic bulbs and fantastic put into your roast Veggies. We have ours that way and makes a pleasant changed to baked onions.
Slso any ideas about planting time for garlic in Mt Barker WA x

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Charles cant spell says...
Isn't it sow bulbs shortest day of the year?

I put my garlic in in start of July in Perth I imagine its the same for you but I am no expert.

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Brendan says...
Had to dig up my garlic early this year because of the wet conditions.

The garlic on the left is my one and only Australian White (from Woollies), the middle one is my largest Purple Striped, and the on on the right is a shop bought Mexican purple, for comparison.
Had a terrible crop overall, mainly all small bulbs :-(

Should be better next year, as Wayne delivered some commercially made compost :-) Thanks Wayne.
I've also added some Terra Foska Complete TE fertilizer, and lots of Dolomite :-)
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Wayne says...
Very impressive quality just the same Brendan.
Poor Brendan has to compete with wallabies, scrub turkeys, possums and a vast variety of birds and other critters to get something to eat out of his garden.

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russ says...
Frog flat, In Perth i plant in April/May and harvest is Jan/Feb - I have always had good results.

Time: 7th September 2010 5:46pm

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Brad says...
I do about the same russ. I find it hard to keep mine moist when it warms up so sometimes harvest sooner (unfortunately). I've already got some browning...sand...

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Julie says...
Brad, I don't think you have to water right up to harvest. In fact, I find it better to let them dry out before harvesting. They can rot if kept too moist in hot weather.

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Brad says...
Hi Julie. Yes, once I decide the plant is yellowed off by about a third, I let the bulb dry in the soil. I've felt like my garlic did this earlier than other people as this happens as soon as we get warm weather. Maybe lack of humus built up in the sand?

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Carmel says...
Here's an example that might have come straight from your herb garden: garlic and roses. It might sound like a new heavy metal rock band, but it's really how many gardeners arrange their plants. Garlic and roses are companion plants.

The pungent scent of the garlic repels some of the rose plant's worst pests, the aphids. Cool, isn't it? To a gardener who's trying hard to stay organic, it's quite exciting.


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adamus says...
I have tried everything to grow garlic. the first year, all I could afford was the cheap stuff in bags from China or somewhere. It all grew, and grew well. I planted it on the Autumn Equinox, it was the weekend after the full moon in March. It grew fine, and from 2 dollars worth of horrid white garlic I grew enough for 7 months or so, plus I kept the best ten or so heads for planting the next year. Garlic will acclimatise to your area if you keep some to replant the next year. I sprinkle lime, and it grows really well. Bigger than the store bought stuff, and I save a fortune. I should mention hat I use three heads a week. I love the stuff. Hope this helps.

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simon says...
Hi, we're garlic growers in Victoria and have about 15 varieties from all over the world, (we have some super strong ones too!) Let me know if you need any varieties or any questions we're happy to help.
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Brendan says...
Hi Simon, yes, could you save for me 4 bulbs of Californian Late, I'll get back to next year.

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Jimmy says...
Can you send to WA?

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Brendan says...
Look like you're out of luck Jimmy, as they don't send garlic to WA or Tas.?
Go to their web site, then 'Garlic Varieties', and check out info towards the bottom.

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Jimmy says...
Bugger, did not see that bit.

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Brendan says...
Maybe Jimmy I could help? I hope to buy some next month :-)

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vic says...
hi their im new to this could some one help me on how much australian purple garlic cloves to the acre hot sure how much to purchas alos the best fetilizer thankyou vic

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Brendan says...
Hi vic,
Contact Simon from: www.garlicworld.com.au, he'll know. You might have to buy the garlic from there too:-)

Just preparing my garlic bed now, have added compressed coconut coir (from bunnings), to loosen up the soil. The coir on the left hasn't been dug in yet, but the small bed on the right, it has.
Yeah I know one isn't supposed to dig in mulch (because of the C/N ratio), but this stuff is potting mix/soil, with slow release fertilizer, and I've used it before with great results:-)
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Diana says...
Those garlic beds look fantastic, Brendan. I am going to try again this April with better-drained beds. Last year was an almost complete disaster for garlic at our place (unlike 2009). Coir seems like a good idea.

Time: 24th February 2011 5:34pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Diana,
I've just ordered some 'Californian Late' garlic from Garlic World, $25 for 10 bulbs (plus $8.45 frieght), so that should arrive late next week, can't wait. It supposed to be the hottest garlic :-)

Yes, like you, I'll be planting in April too, as last year's earlier planting (up here), wasn't a very good idea.

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

That sounds great. I am generally cautious of getting seeds and plants from suppliers in drier, cooler states, but you have a very well-prepared spot. I have had good success with Glen Large from Green harvest before (they say it was bred at Gatton), I think I will get some of that. It is more expensive than garlicworld though.

Good luck.

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Brendan says...
Hi Diana,
Don't want to swap some Glen Large for my Californian Late? :-)

See I had a little 'helper' when spreading my coconut coir!
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Time: 28th February 2011 9:16am

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

Sure, I'd be keen to swap a couple of bulbs. That sounds like an excellent experiment.

I'll let you know when it gets here.
The kookaburra doesn't look like he found anything he wanted in there!

PS I came across another garlic supplier even cheaper, via the Italian gardener seed supplier website, they have a link to a farm that sells four Italian varieties, based at Gundaroo (near Canberra- even less like Brisbane or Mackay weather, but might be worth a try one year) http://www.allsun.com.au/060_Garlic/Garlic.html

Diana.

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Brendan says...
Hi Diana,
OK, thanks for that. Don't know when mine arrives either, but should be this week.

The kookaburras move the coir around to look for worms underneath. Even I'm surprised at the size of some worms they take :-(

Good garlic site, thanks. I saved it on my pc :-)

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

My garlic has arrived. My email is fraenata@hotmail.com, if you want to send me an address to post it to.

No hurry really- the weather does not look too good for planting garlic for the time being.

Thanks,

Diana

Time: 4th March 2011 10:58am

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Brendan says...
Thanks for that Diana.

My garlic has not arrived yet :-(
but I'll send you my address soon.

Boy, the weather has been terrible up here too lately, yesterday was ~35

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simon says...
Hi friends, if you'd like some info on how to grow garlic let me know via email simon@ethicalstrength.com but please don't add it to the internet because we're pretty protective of our work. www.garlicworld.com.au

cheers
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Julie says...
simon, if you are being protective, it's wise to put your address as:
simon at ethicalstrength dot com. Saves a lot of junk mail.

Time: 8th March 2011 10:17pm

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adamus says...
I just got 20 head of the Californian Purple from Simon. Seems to know his stuff. I'm up in New England, in Armidale, so our planting time is the weekend after the full moon in March. This year we plant on the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd.
It always works well if we follow this rule.
Not sure about down south, but give it a go. Ya never know.
If I plant outside these times, the heads are noticeably smaller. I tried it for 4 years.
Anything after this, I just have to wait longer.
The heads are usually about 5 inches across when fresh, but get down to about 3 1/2 inches after drying.

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Brendan says...
G'day adamus,
Can I ask what fertilizer you use to get garlic bulbs 5 inches diameter across?

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adamus says...
G'day Brendan. most people grow it this size up here. we use a LOT of dolomite or lime, and LOTS of sheep manure. It's usually free in the rural areas, and just breaks down really well. Cow is good too, but the lumps are bigger. I scatter a bit of Blood and Bone over, then lime or dolomite, and water it. Then wait a week or so before planting. Plant about a handspan apart, and Bob's your Uncle.
There's not a lot of difference between lime and dolomite, just dolomite has some trace elements , but is just a bit more expensive usually. Just depends how flush i am at the time.

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Here's a quick pickie i did on the MAc.
This is very dry, ready to plant. So 2 heads on 1 hand.
And very heavy for size. A good year, but the size is normal. I've heard it's harder to grow in warm areas, because of the chill factor.
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Brendan says...
Hi adamus,
Yeah I know I'm pushing the boundries growing garlic up here, it does grow, just not as large as down south.
I too have bought some stock from Simon @ Garlic World, so that should help :-)
Diana from Brisbane has sent me some Glen Large garlic to try, it's bred for Qld conditions.
To me, it's way too hot (and wet) to plant garlic this weekend (up here), I'm going to wait until I can feel it getting cooler before I plant mine, like you, I've been growing garlic for years. (about 12 years actually).

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adamus says...
Yeah, I've heard some good stuff about the Glen large. Good Luck. Most people I know just plant the hrrible Elephant stuff. The stuff from Simon was wonderful. I might try the red next year, but haven't ever seen it the size of the purple.
Like You, i eat a lot of garlic. Can't wait until next week.
Have you thought about the Moon Planting Guides for your region. I really was quite skeptical, but they seem to work well here. It's also a good way to keep me on track with planting I 'spose.

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simon says...
Great idea Julie, I must remember to do that. regards simondotcom

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Steven says...
Hey everyone.

Every time i grow garlic they look healthy and strong during autumn and winter but once spring hits they begin to die back before they have a chance to produce nice bulbs.

Im thinking its either because once the weather starts to warm up they begin to develop some sort of fungi infection or its because the sun begins to get stronger.

Does anyone know why this would occur?

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adamus says...
I can't think of any reason this might happen, steve. I grew up in Ferntree Gully, and we always had great garlic. Are you overwatering.?
Is it clay soil, garlic really hates that, and it doesn't do well with weed competition.
That's all i can think of. Garlic is pest free pretty much, and I've never heard of any garlic fungus.
Maybe Simon has some idea,.?

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Steven says...
Thanks for your help.

No its not over watering. its in the vegetable garden and is only watered rarely during winter/spring as the soil is almost always moist. The soil is also loose so it is free draining.

I read a book that states you should mix alittle lime in the soil before planting garlic as this helps prevent fungi infections i might do that and maybe even treat it with worm juice/seasol every few weeks as it grows, if it happens again ill try using a fungicide and see what happens.

ill let you know my progress

Thanks

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adamus says...
Good, let us know. Lime is the best, or dolomite. They can't get enough, same as most Alliums. Good luck. It's heartbreaking the lose the harvest at the end.

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Brendan says...
Hi adamus,
I 'sort of' use the moon planting guide, and yesterday they had it on the local ABC radio.
She said not to plant anything this weekend, cultivate only?
It's way to wet to even do that today, but the whole moon planting thing is very interesting.
Btw, did you know the full moon tonight is the closest it's been to the earth for 20 years. Should be big :-)

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Steven says...
Thats right i read about that on discovery news. i will have to make sure to look up tonght!! :)

Cant i ask? what reasoning do they have behind moon planting. I know does influence many things from tides to coral reef reproduction, the menstral cycles of pigs to, many people claim peoples moods! the word lunatic comes from the italian word luna which means moon.

Speaking of italians, most of my older relatives insist on planting their tomatoes in sync with the moon but ive never understood why?

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adamus says...
This Full Moon is called a super Moon. Very Rare. According to the planting guide, you never plant a day either side of the full moon. Something about the tidal stuff, and the effect of it to water in the soil.
Like you Brendan, I sort of use it, but with the Garlic, it always works if I plant it the week after the full moon in March. It's always a good time anyway, then I get it out and harvested just in time for my other spring crops in Late October.
I also tried the companion planting thing, but it seems to make no difference. A lot of it seems to be about preventing bad insects and stuff, most of which we don't get in Australia.
My Italian Uncle in Newport used to always plant on a full moon, at night. People thought he was bonkers, but he got the best tommies in the area.

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Brendan says...
Hi adamas,
I've read somewhere that the soil temperature for planting garlic should be between 13 and 23

Time: 20th March 2011 9:49am

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

You garlic bulb (and extra cloves) arrived. Thanks very much, they are lovely. Just have to wait for slightly drier, cooler weather now to plant them.

I am going to write down how many cloves of each type go in and see how they go.

Shame we can't see the supermoon with the constant rain and cloud.

Diana.

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Brendan says...
Good stuff Diana.
I've got about 7 different types to plant this year now :-) Like you, I might not have enough room.
Had big storm last night, way too wet to plant yet.

Time: 22nd March 2011 9:00am

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adamus says...
Hi Brendan. Yep, probably way too hot yet. I just planted all mine for this year. Hope it goes well. Our temps are 3 to 19 degrees, so perfect. It's always good to plant a few days after a full moon. Probably up there it's in June or something. That garlic from Simon was enourmous, and I got a few different ones from friends, plus the thirty or so heads of mine, so, I p[lanted about 550 heads, enough for me , and some to sell at the grower's Market.
I also put in all the frost hardy things. Turnips, rocket, Kale, Silverbet, carrots, parsnips etc. I'm hoping for a bumper year, last year was terrible for production. You can still grow beans and tomatoes maybe. Gee I miss the hotter weather.

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Brendan says...
Hi adamus, good luck with all that. Wow, 550 garlics! I thought my brother was bad (or good), he grows ~ 300! Good to know you can sell your excess:-)

That garlic I got from Simon wasn't that big, I think he was running out by the time he got my order.
With a lot of luck, I won't have to buy anymore for a few years :-)

Time: 23rd March 2011 10:13am

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Brendan says...
Hello Diana,
Just wondering if you've managed to plant any garlic yet?
We had a 'nearly' fine day yesterday & a bit cool, so I planted about half mine.
More rain forecast today, so I'll wait 'till that passes before planting any more :-) (Lot cooler today too)

Time: 6th April 2011 7:15am

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

Yes, I planted about half of the bulbs last weekend. I hope the spot is well-drained enough. They have a mixture of soil, mushroom compost, composted cow manure and added lime. It does seem to be cooling down at night here. I might have to wait until the weekend after this to plant the rest (very busy!).

Good luck,

Diana.

Time: 6th April 2011 11:22am

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adamus says...
I hope you're all putting pickies up. I love to see all the effort.

Time: 6th April 2011 3:28pm

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snottiegobble says...
It might seem strange but I have never planted out garlic until end of June! Never have any problems because they take off like rockets as the days get longer, sometimes the roots push the cloves out of the soil & have to be replanted.
Suggestion : Only use the large outer cloves for replanting!
They are ready to harvest by end of November!

Time: 6th April 2011 6:56pm

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adamus says...
Sounds fine. It's probably the best time. We use the frost to improve the flavour, But I don't think Bunbury would be that cold. I used to get good marron from Bunbury.. Yum.

Time: 7th April 2011 7:25am

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Julie says...
A few people have mentioned putting lime in their garlic beds. Do you do this to change the pH, or for the calcium?

I've come to the conclusion that my garlic lacked calcium - the plants fell over before they were mature, and didn't seem strong. I am wondering which is best - adding lime or gypsum? Gypsum is high in calcium, with sulphur too, which should be good.

I have both - what do you think?

Time: 11th April 2011 9:12pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Julie,
I use Dolomite and Gypsum, Dolomite is better than plain lime.
I remember Peter Cundall saying you can 'nearly' grow garlic in dolomite alone! (I don't think so :-)
Don't forget some extra phosphorus & potassium, that should stop them falling over.

Time: 12th April 2011 7:29am

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Sandra says...
Hi everyone, I have planted garlic thinking it would be an easy crop. After reading all of your comments, I realise there is so much to learn. I was going to add lime but didn't think I could plant directly afterwards, so left it out. I planted about 6 weeks ago and the plants are growing ok at this stage. I use worm tea about every 2 weeks.

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Brendan says...
Hi Sandra,
Dolomite & gypsum are better than lime for garlic IMHO. Worm tea is excellent, and don't forget to mulch. I'd add the dolomite & gypsum asap, topped with mulch.
My garlic as of yesterday. Had a few 'misses' but have replanted. Ended up planting 285 :-)
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Time: 15th June 2011 8:54am

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Brendan says...
Mike,
If you want to grow garlic next year, best to prepare the bed now. I add lots of Coir potting mix (bunnings) to the soil to loosen it up, some sand would help too.
It is fairly deep rooted, doesn't like wet feet, so raised beds help. Cow manure is good too, lots of Dolomite, and a fertilizer higher in 'P' & 'K'.
Someone else might have some other ideas :-)

Time: 26th June 2011 7:31am

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Mike says...
That's how garlic is grown in small plots in Thailand.There seems to be alot of types but they are usually smaller and stronger tasting than the standard garlic.I grew spring onions and shallots every year but the shallots didn't do well with it being extra warm and wet in the dry season the last couple of years.The cloves saved for this season all shot and died and the spring onions are just grown from seed packets because they don't have bulbs.
The garden will be ready.My partner is overseas with ICON printouts and dozens of clip bags with scientific names on.Some of the garlic types were at the top of the list but I reckon she'll bring no seeds back at all.

Time: 26th June 2011 8:35am

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simon says...
Hi everyone, just thought I'd boast about our current garlic crop, its a beauty.
Pic's on www.garlicworld.com.au

Tip: fill a barrel with seaweed / kelp and cover with fresh water, then leave it (lid off) stir every few weeks until it has fermented into liquid kelp. Garlic loves it!
See you soon.
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au0rey says...
Thanks Simon! Wonderful site.

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Brendan says...
G'day Mike,
Posted some garlic bulbs to you last week.
Do you know of anyone that has successfully grown garlic in Cairns? I thought Mackay would be the northern limit? Good luck!

Time: 21st November 2011 8:34am

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Mike says...
Brendan thank you it arrived today.I did another variety from Mareeba and it is not much cooler than Mackay.I will try and seem to have a really good fertliser regime and everything is booming I have an embarrassment of riches in the fruit,herb and vegie department at the moment with many new additions.You will be hansomely rewarded and the late pepper will be included.I'll just send a selection if you won't say what you're after.

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Brendan says...
OK Mike, thanks! Forgot to send you some Lima bean seeds, originally from Amanda in wa. Two is enough :-)

http://www.ranchogordo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RG&Product_Code=CHRB01

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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,

I have been meaning to say that the garlic you sent last year is delicious, thanks very much. All the varieties I planted grew well. I ended up with less than I was hoping though, because during spring, the dog discovered that there was a nice sunny spot in the garlic bed and was lying on it during the day when I was at work. By the time I realised this a lot was squashed and I had to harvest early. It still had a lot of flavour (two bulbs left now).

Diana.

Time: 24th January 2012 10:15am

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Brendan says...
Ok, thanks for that Diana.
I haven't eaten any Glen Large you gave me, saving it ALL for seed :-) I did send 1 bulb up to Mike in Cairns, it might grow up there?
I'll be planting all yours first, then topping up the bed with my own. Good stuff.

Time: 28th January 2012 9:41am

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Mike says...
Brendan it is still in the crisper but sprouting anyway. The garlic will be planted in May and we'll find out.Because they are grown from the cloves so often getting the seeds of the smaller,stronger tasting garlic of tropical and sub tropiocal Asia is a challenge.

Time: 28th January 2012 9:58am

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Brendan says...
Hi Mike, I don't keep mine in the crisper at all, I was told that it does induce sprouting? The 'expert' told me to fridge it 2 or 3 weeks before planting?

PS Can I have your email address? Mine is: bitquickeratbigponddotcom (Just needs some 'deciphering')

I can send you some tips for growing garlic, if you want :-)

Time: 28th January 2012 10:25am

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Julie says...
Garlic is a cool weather plant, so refrigerating would speed up sprouting. It will sprout without any help when it is ready - in or out of the ground!

Time: 28th January 2012 8:57pm

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Mike says...
Brendan I'll have to give you my work email as I'm using my partners email address at the moment and have not yet set a new one up.

Time: 28th January 2012 9:24pm

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Brendan says...
Yeah Mike, no worries & no hurry. We've still got 2 months to go before planting garlic up this way :-)

Time: 30th January 2012 9:09am

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Wazza McG says...
How far will 1 kg of garlic go in a garden plot?

When would you start planting out bulbs for the Brisbane area?

Brendon please send me tips ;-)
mcgoldrick1 at optusnet dot com dot au


Time: 1st February 2012 8:51am

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John says...
http://www.gardenate.com/plant/Garlic?zone=3

Time: 1st February 2012 9:03am

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Brendan says...
Hi Wazza McG, did you receive my email?

Time: 4th February 2012 7:48am

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Wazza McG says...
Yep, Thanks mate.

I'm going to buy Rosies Garlic from here;

http://www.foodprints.com.au/Garlic---Our-Specialty.html

Rosies is a rocambole (French) type of garlic with large, evenly-sized cloves - I believe the french rocambole is the one the chefs go after.

Had to get some french shallots and pumpkin seeds off him as well ;-)



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peter says...
hi wazza
saw a couple of baby melons today,
i hope they stay on.

Time: 4th February 2012 5:38pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Mike, Green Harvest is now selling Glen Large, Italian White & Monaro Purple garlic.
I bought 1 lot of each, even though the white & purple varietes are not really suited for up here, but you never know.

Check 'em out: http://www.greenharvest.com.au/

PS I put mine in the fridge :-)

Time: 4th March 2012 8:17am

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Mike says...
Thanks Brendan I'll check it out.It is a pity we don't have all the tropical asian shallots and garlics available.Are are after any fruit tree seeds,herbs or vegies in the next week or 2? I think that was a pretty ordinary lot I sent to you before.

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Brendan says...
No I'm right for a while thanks Mike, but I'll let you know if I need anything :-)
I'm going to plant some Glen Large today!

Time: 5th March 2012 9:50am

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amanda says...
Thank goodness WA and Tassie can swap fruit n veg through all the quarantine dramas...I am finally seeing Tassie garlic and potatoes here...and without them we here in WA would never get to see some of the varities mentioned here.. :-(

I scored this beautiful head of Tassie garlic yesterday (only $35 a kilo - eek!) but well worth it compared to the crap we normally have to put up with (from all over the world too)

It looks like a monaro purple maybe..? It's very strong and quite hot (and a darker purple than in the pic)

I am going to have a bash at growing it (if I can resist eating it first :D
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Monee says...
Hello everyone planted garlic last season as a trial bought a plant from bunnings and tried asian garlic , single bulb from asian and got multiple bulbs from the bunnings one.Just prepared soil with cow manure and dynamic lifter . While growing feed with liquid and D/L.Have got a few varieties this year from Diggers .

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snottiegobble says...
Yes Monee, the Asians want us to keep buying their garlic so a lot of the imports are treated not to sprout!

Time: 12th March 2012 6:08pm

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amanda says...
Wah SG! Went to grab more of that Tassie garlic for us and it was already all sold out, in just 2 days!?
Must be lots of desperate WA folk out there if they are willing to pay $35/kg compared to the bags of asian garlic at a few bucks...??

I bet others have the same idea about growing it too... ;-)

The garlic from o/seas is fumigated with bromide (for insects), from memory...? I think this is what makes it mostly unviable..?

Time: 12th March 2012 6:28pm

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Julie says...
Think I've said this before, but I have never had a problem growing Chinese garlic. I only buy it when there is absolutely nothing else available, but it has always sprouted and grown normally for me.

Shallots? Ah, that's another story. I've given up on trying to grow bought shallots - the large, round ones. I'll stick to the smaller ones I keep going from year to year.

Time: 12th March 2012 9:55pm

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amanda says...
hey Julie...my Bunnings here finally got in french/proper shallot seedlings (in the 8 cell punnets) - after I moaned and groaned at them (along with others...)

And after we all moaned and groaned at Coles over the lack of Tarragon in the fresh herb section...we have that too now! (and it freezes really well too..I have 3 bunches on the go in my freezer right now..no problems)

(My chinese garlic usually sprouts after awhile too..the treatment is just to get rid of insects...and rightly so) I just find it's very "bland" garlic..? It has no punch...

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Brendan says...
Hello amanda, an old Italian man told me if you want hotter garlic, give it some soluble Sulphur a couple of months before it's harvested :-)

Time: 13th March 2012 9:13am

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Julie says...
That makes sense Brendan,as garlic is very high in sulphur. Must remember that tip.

I used gypsum (calcium sulphate) last year on my garlic, mainly for the calcium, but the sulphur would have helped the flavour too.

The last couple of years the stalks were falling over too soon, and I thought the calcium would strengthen them. Seemed to work, as the stalks stayed stiff and upright for much longer before harvesting.

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snottiegobble says...
Julie, when do you harvest? I always harvest end of Nov. early Dec. after planting roundabout shortest day, June 22.

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monee says...
Hello,does anyone know what potato manure is.

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Jimmy says...
Its a chemical fertiliser from the old days sold at bunnings etc

under the name potato manure E

Time: 14th March 2012 8:17am

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Brendan says...
I grew the best garlic using that potato fertilizer. It's NPK was 4:7:7.
Can't buy it now for some reason?

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amanda says...
Hey Brendan - it's still at our Bunnings..I used on my sweet potatoes this season.

Sulphur would be good for onions too perhaps?

Time: 14th March 2012 10:10am

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Brendan says...
Thanks amanda, I'll ask them next time I'm in Mackay!

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Julie says...
sg, you asked when I harvest. Bit hard to answer, as different varieties seem to be ready at different times. Sometimes it's difficult to know exactly when they are ready,when to stop watering etc.

What I would really like is to find a really good garlic that I liked and get to know its needs. Then I would know what to expect.

I usually plant mine in late March, April if running late. Then harvest around December.

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amanda says...
Nice one Julie..that planting time is exactly what I have been pondering!? Put some in now SG?...take advantage of the coming autumn rains...but with the warm soil perhaps?

I still think that the traditional planting time of winter solstice is too late for much of WA..?

Maybe they should be drying out as our late spring, early summer naturally dries out..?

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simon says...
Hi, the garlic you buy from the shop may be treated with growth inhibitors and bleached which will make for a pretty ordinary garlic even if it does strike. We grow garlic for all parts of Australia so I suggest you send me an email for some advice on what will suit your area or, buy garlic that has grown locally (and prospered). Gotta love Aussie Garlic ;-) For tips / advice our site is garlicworld.com.au
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Jimmy says...
Mirco Bros neerabup has over 1 tonne of seed garlic for sale.

Time: 15th March 2012 1:20pm

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monee says...
I planted some garlic seed in late feb which sprouted 2 weeks later in pots,I will be planting them in the garden bed which I prepared with cow manure,dynamic lifter, gypsum,super phosphate and home compost planted more seed a week ago waiting to sprout I have six differnt varieties seed to grow looking for more.

Time: 25th March 2012 10:22am

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Allium says...
Monee, garlic don't need such a rich soil. Those additions you mention will make the soil acidic. A good handful of lime would be beneficial

Time: 25th March 2012 11:43am

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Brendan says...
Best to use dolomite on garlic, not lime. Apply a good handful per sq m and scarify it in.

Time: 26th March 2012 9:20am

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Allium says...
Actually in Monee's case, lime is definitely the preferred. SE QLD soils are high in magnesium. You'll put the Ca:Mg out of whack, plus you're likely to show signs of manganese defiency by adding to magnesium rich soils.

Time: 26th March 2012 2:42pm

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Monee says...
Hello yeah I thought I had to add lime I will add before I plant the garlic .This is all good info, so far eight plants have sprouted, will it matter if I get in early the longer the roots get to develop is good but I guess I will plant right up to June and maybe more in Aug/sep see how I go I have been noticing more Australian grown garlic for sale in the shops this is good dont buy Asian garlic anymore

Time: 26th March 2012 8:04pm

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Brendan says...
Here's my garlic as of this morning, 16.4.12. There's about 240 on the right, and some Glen Large, Purple Monaro & Italian White on the left.
Some has not sprouted yet, and yet another baby kookaburra delights in pulling some out! Grr!

Yes I know they're planted too close together, but I've added extra fertilizer. Hope it works?
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amanda says...
If you do end up having to thin - u could always use the thinnings in cooking maybe? They look lovely n healthy Brendan :) Nice set up there too.

Time: 16th April 2012 10:51am

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Julie says...
Brendan, I plant my garlic at about that spacing too. Usually turns out OK if well-fed.

Time: 16th April 2012 8:09pm

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Mike says...
Brendan mine are that close as well and I have nearly 40 garlics,30 asian purple shallots and 30ish asian red shallots.The spring onions might have to sit this season out because they are too slow.

Time: 16th April 2012 8:20pm

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Diana says...
Those look great Brendan. Mine are spaced like that too. I have had a surprising problem with rats (I think- netting didn't stop whatever it was) pulling out several cloves a day and chewing some. Solved now I hope by baiting rats. I replanted the unchewed ones and they are growing.

Time: 17th April 2012 12:43am

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Julie says...
Diana, do you have bandicoots? Last year I tried planting garlic around the dripline of a couple of citrus. Most got dug up.

My garlic is planted in styrofoam boxes on top of raised beds, and the bandicoots don't climb. I have to do that because the beds are full of roots from neighbours' trees.
The only problem sometimes is their wretched cat, which likes to use freshly dug earth for a toilet!

Time: 17th April 2012 7:51pm

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snottiegobble says...
I found that my ever friendly maggies sometimes removed the occasional cloves from the soil, but usually its because they are "on stilts" as in roots pushed them up above the soil line. Forgive & forget!!

Time: 17th April 2012 9:06pm

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Diana says...
Hi Julie,
I love bandicoots and all marsupials, but unfortunately I am a few streets away from the bush and have never seen one in the garden. We don't have possums either (we have nice birds, reptiles and frogs). My garlic is in a raised bed covered by netting.

Time: 17th April 2012 9:22pm

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Mike says...
I have problems with the big brown bandicoots and long nosed bandicoots digging plants up.They mostly seem to be digging for worms and soil insects and come more often in the dry season or when I put smelly fertiliser out.My duck and goose proof fence around the vegie patch won't keep them out.

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Sil says...
Hi guys and thanks for all the info, I used a heap of it! I went to Floraland this year and picked up a bunch of Italian garlic, ended up planting out around 110. This is the first time I've grown garlic and really happy with the progress so far!

The cloves were planted out 14th April and this photo was taken 16th May.

We are up in the hills, the patch is made from soil mixed with about 70% composted horse manure and straw with a few handfuls of dolomite; ph is 6.5 :)
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Time: 18th May 2012 12:28pm

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Mike says...
Garlic and shallots are prominant now in my rapidly growing vegie patch.
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Time: 18th May 2012 9:00pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
wow! more than just self sufficient Mike!

Time: 19th May 2012 6:28am

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Brendan says...
Hi Sil, try mulching your garlic, not only does it stops weeds growing, it also stops the soil drying out.
I usually add a good organic fertilizer before adding mulch.

Mike, your garlic looks good in your very busy veggie garden.

Bought some Aussie garlic from coles yesterday, and it says on the back it's suitable for growing! Never seen that before! Just have to plant a few today:-)

Time: 19th May 2012 6:28am

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Mike says...
Brendan I do have greens crowded and eat the big ones out and let the small ones come through as replacements.They seem to last longer that way and be more productive as well.
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Time: 19th May 2012 8:00am

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Mike says...
I also have pockets of vegies and herbs in corners of the garden all over the place.
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MaryT says...
Love your garden Mike. Brendan I'm going check out the garlic at Coles tomorrow. :)

Time: 19th May 2012 6:10pm

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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, yeah I couldn't help myself yesterday, and planted about 12 cloves of this Coles garlic :-)

It's actually a bit late to plant garlic up here, but you should be right down there to plant some.
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Time: 20th May 2012 6:18am

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Brendan. The turmeric is wilting so I wonder if I can dig them up and borrow their home for garlic? I can only grow in containers and there's always a tussle for space.

Time: 20th May 2012 7:15am

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Xiem says...
MaryT why is your turmeric wilting? I am curious because I planted some a few months back for the first time and its doing okay but I certainly couldn't say it is thriving. It has a kind of limp washed out appearance.

Time: 20th May 2012 1:35pm

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MaryT says...
Hi Xiem, I think it's just at that stage of its life cycle. The leaves die back totally and I usually lift them all up because they tend to rot if there's a lot of rain (like we did last year) because I have them in a large pot.

Time: 20th May 2012 2:06pm

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Sil says...
Thanks :) I definitely need to mulch but not sure what with. I have heaps and heaps of straw/leftover hay from the horses I could put on?

Time: 22nd May 2012 8:11pm

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John Mc says...
Sil, I couldn't think of anything better. Lucerne hay is one of the best, lucky you.

Time: 22nd May 2012 8:16pm

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Sil says...
It's oaten straw not lucerne sadly, that is too expensive to throw around, here :)

Time: 22nd May 2012 8:25pm

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DARREN says...
Hello everyone wow what a great forum I live in brisbane and planted my first australian garlic from coles organic section .So far so good all surfaced and now about six inches high hope it wasnt planted too late.Has anyone grown good elephant garlic in brisbane if so when did you plant and get your stock

Time: 5th July 2012 10:52pm

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snottiegobble says...
Welcome DARREN! yes it is a good forum & you will meet many like-minded people here! I always planted my garlic around the shortest day, but others here like to get them in late May so this year I have followed suit & they are up , big & strong! .Its just possible that the early planters will also be the early harvesters being that garlic is always ready before the longest day!

Time: 6th July 2012 12:38pm

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Wazzbat says...
Just bought some garlic myself. I bought a few small plants (in 100mm pots) from my local nursery. I tried garlic (unsuccessfully) a couple of years back. Thought I'd have another crack. Hopefully I haven't left it too late?

Was planning on trying some bulbs from my local f&v shop too. I'm pretty sure they grow their own so they should grow ok but I will ask them.

Time: 6th July 2012 3:34pm

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Silvia says...
My garlic is coming along nicely, just watering and weeding every so often. I ended up using all the spare straw on the potatoes so these guys are naked :)

This is from today 10th July, the garlic was planted just on 3 months ago.
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Time: 10th July 2012 11:35am

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snottiegobble says...
Congrats Silvia, I smell some delicious Asian & Italian dishes wafting out of your kitchen this summer!

Time: 10th July 2012 12:08pm

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M Nash says...
I put about 100 in on the 21 June. A mix of Coles Aussie and some large purple ones that the fruiter discribed as "Spanish" There about 3" high now however after reading all this is seems I was to late for my area. If I get a crop in Feb I hope I can replant late April. Anyone know what the best time to plant on the Northern Rivers NSW?

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Xiem says...
Not quite Northern Rivers NSW, but in SE Qld they seem to plant around April and harvest around November to avoid "wet rot". However I am certainly no expert and I am happy to be corrected and listen to those more experienced.

Time: 10th July 2012 1:40pm

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M Nash says...
Thanks for that, I suspect you are rigt.
Mine are in raised beds so hopefully they will survive the summer wet.
I could shade cloth them to reduce the amount of rain?

Time: 10th July 2012 2:40pm

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Xiem says...
Myself I wouldn't bother and it may not be effective anyway. The raised beds will probably help.

Time: 11th July 2012 11:12am

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DARREN BRISBANE says...
HELLO ALL WENT INTO A LOCAL FRUIT MARKET AND BOUGHT SOME BULBS OF APPARENTLY AUSTRALIAN GARLIC LOOKS VERY SUSPICIOUSLY MUCH LIKE THE TYPE FROM MEXICO.WILL BREAK IT UP AND GIVE IT A GO. HOPEFULLY WITH MY OTHER ORGANIC GARLIC TYPES ALREADY GROWING AND MY WONDERFUL ELEPHANT GARLIC IN BETWEEN MY SALSIFY MY FUTURE SHOPPING TRIPS FOR GARLIC NEXT YEAR WILL BE OVER.

Time: 12th July 2012 11:23pm

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snottiegobble says...
All my garlic are doing really well except the Tasmanian purples which were slow to come thru & still seem somewhat small & floppy. I suspect they were treated with something! Amanda, how did you go with yours??

Time: 14th July 2012 12:00pm

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amanda says...
I actually didn't plant mine SG..? Nick used it to make toum with :D
I don't know if they treat the Tassie stuff..? I was under the impression they didn't...?
I don't really understand where our "Australian" garlic comes from, in WA..?
We are not allowed to buy any bulbs from Diggers etc in the eastern states..

So perhaps "edible" garlic is all treated b4 it comes into WA - regardless of where it comes from..?

Time: 14th July 2012 7:14pm

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grub says...
hi amanda i get my aussie garlic from brigetown and my purple monaro and russian from denmark all organic ,i planted just over 200 so if you wont some later in the year ill send you some.

Time: 14th July 2012 7:23pm

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snottiegobble says...
Yes I think you are right! I will post a photo Monday to let everyone see the difference, its quite amazing! I dont think these growth inhibitors can be very good for consumption & they wouldnt be used on organic stuff, would they?

Time: 14th July 2012 7:31pm

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amanda says...
Grub - that would be so much appreciated! Thank you :) I will moving down there in early Sept - so it might be good to actually catch up sometime? I like looking at fruit trees! lol..

I don't know what they treat them with SG..? They used to be fumigated for pests with methyl bromide? Apparently that's only used for quarantine purposes now (but is that National plus International imports into WA..? Dunno!?)


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snottiegobble says...
Amanda,the tiny plants next to the kerbing are the Tasmanian purple except for 4 plants far end which along with the other 2 rows are all my own cloves from last season. The plants further off are seedling onions & leeks! All the garlic was planted at the same time! Unbelievable isnt it?
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amanda says...
Gee - they are really different SG!? I have no idea! I can sympathise tho - I have a green zebra tomatoe right next to a Hungarian Oxheart - and the zebra is loaded...oxheart has barely any fruit...

I wonder if they have different 'chilling' requirements..? (ie: the Tassie garlic is late season or something weird, as the oxheart may be also..?) I know the GZ is good for warmer climates tho..

You should keep some bulbs from the Tassie garlic and replant - as it may be that the need to acclimatise..?


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Brendan says...
G'day SG, when my garlic grows like those near your kerbing, they don't form garlic bulbs :-( It's usually garlic I've bought from down south.
Yours might be ok tho.
The others look very good!
The unseasonal rain we're copping atm, has just about ruined mine! Bugger.

Time: 18th July 2012 8:39am

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snottiegobble says...
Hell Brendan, you seem to be getting rain all year round which makes it impossible for many plants. What about a low % shade cloth over a plastic cover?
The tiny Tasmanian garlic plants are from a bulb sent down by Amanda that she bought. The cloves were big & healthy , but the results indicate to me a growth inhibitor was used. Amanda didnt plant hers probably due to the fact she is moving South.

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Brendan says...
Not wrong SG, I should've covered it with something!, but I didn't think the rain would continue, we've had 147mm in the last 9 days :-(
I'll post a pic later.

I'm also worried about my Lamb Hass avocado tree, leaves are starting to droop :-( (Not a good sign)


Time: 19th July 2012 6:21am

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amanda says...
Oi! That's supposed to be our rain now Brendan - send it back!! :D
Haven't been able to fill my 50,000l tanks yet :-( Not a good sign so far.

Time: 19th July 2012 10:45am

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Brendan says...
It's a wonder governments don't build pipelines from north aust. to southern state amanda? I'm sure there's more than enough water north of you, just flowing out to sea! Same on this side! Crazy.

Here's a pic of my garlic, nearly drowned by too much rain :-(
And my brother's nice garlic, right in town!
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Time: 21st July 2012 8:31am

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Mike says...
There have been big water pipeline projects investigated like burdekin dam to brisbane and the ord to perth which seem more sensible than towing antarctic icebergs.People just don't want to pay over $1/litre, they are very tight.
People are the same way about all that water being wasted on the environment,fish and downstream users.Taking a little out of the Murray system didn't do any harm.If sand nourishment of coastal beaches is blocked we have trucks.There are no fish in the estuaries anyway and look how much money the ord brings in.It is the same with the bush...all that wasted timber.

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jakfruitetiquette says...
If we cut down enough trees, everyone will be able to see Russia from their kitchen window, just like Sarah Palin can!!

Time: 21st July 2012 8:03pm

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Mike says...
Why do we want to see them when we have reds under the beds here like those greenies.We are getting rid of the green tape in Qld now.The poor old miners were not allowed to discharge contaminated waste before and good wholesome development was prevented in flood prone areas.At least Bob Katter will be free to get rid of those festering crocodiles that are maneaters.We could send some proper expertise to africa to help them get rid of the cheetahs and lions and help india out controlling the tigers.It is back to Joh days and all is great.

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snottiegobble says...
& dont you worry about that!!

Time: 21st July 2012 11:15pm

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Brendan says...
G'day Mike, just wondering how your garlic is getting on? If it's growing well, can you post a photo? Thanks.

Mine is terrible this year, so I'll have to flog some from my brother :-) His is powering! Some of his would be 700mm high!

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Mike says...
Brendan they were a complete failure and I won't grow garlic again.My red shallots that you can see the base of at the back are covered in seeding flowers and have plump corms.
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Time: 19th August 2012 8:42am

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Mike says...
My purple shallots have been harvested and I have no complaints about them being fairly typical of past years.The genuine shallots seem to have that nutty and nice taste that the small onions called french shallots don't have.
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Time: 19th August 2012 8:47am

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VF says...
Mike, your purple shallots look great and sound interestingly delicious too (I've only had french shallots before)- I can't wait for the corms you sent me to grow now.(BTW, thanks for info. on herbs on other forum topic.)

Time: 19th August 2012 9:27am

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Brendan says...
Hi Mike, pulled nearly all my garlic yesterday (rain coming!?). Believe it or not, some of the 'bulbs' were ok?, but most were way too small, very hot tho! Looks like some Purple Monaro grew ok, bit small, again, very hot!:-) (See pic). Now that the Purple Monaro is 'aclimatized' to Mky, it will be better next year.

Been meaning to tell you, usually garlic forms it's bulbs mainly in the last few months, so don't despair just yet, yours might work after all :-)
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Time: 28th August 2012 7:51am

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Mike says...
It is looking good Brendan but it would take a miraculous and perhaps unprecendented growth spurt for mine to approach the fringes of repectability.It is official,I'm a garlic flop but I can take comfort in my shallots.

Time: 30th August 2012 7:17pm

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Brendan says...
Check out the brother's garlic (his is on the right, woollies is on left).
He got the 'seed' from Charlie (Maltese chap), and has about 180 of these growing.
His Glenlarge is also excellent! Each bulb has only 4 to 6 cloves, but they're huge :-)
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Darren says...
Hello I am just trying to compare my elephant garlics height with anyone else that may be growing them at this time I am suprised that some are already pulling bulbs from the smaller varieties of garlic already.

Time: 2nd September 2012 10:05am

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Brendan says...
Hi Darren, we had a terrible season for garlic this year up here because of the unseasonal rain! It killed my garlic off, so I had to pull it all up :-( Normally I pull it around October.
Not too keen on Giant Russian (elephant) garlic, I find it way too mild, and the health benefits are a bit lacking as well, compared to 'normal' garlic IMHO.

Time: 5th September 2012 7:38am

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StediRidge says...
Hi everyone, it's great reading about everyone's efforts at growing garlic. I grow organic garlic in the Northern Rivers near Kyogle, and my garlic harvest is in full swing at the moment and we now have fresh, new season Certified Organic Garlic for sale on our website www.stediridge.com.au I hope this helps anyone who didn't get their garlic in the ground, or still has to wait a few months before they harvest their garlic. For reference, In the Northern Rivers garlic is usually planted in late March/early April.
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Time: 18th September 2012 1:30pm

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Brendan says...
Nice looking garlic, what type is it?

Time: 19th September 2012 9:28am

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StediRidge says...
Hi Brendan, it is an Australian Purple, one of the Glen types bred at Gatton QLD.

Time: 19th September 2012 6:07pm

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Brendan says...
I think it must be Southern Glen?, as it looks nothing like my Glenlarge.

Although the climate difference from where you are & Mackay is huge (I think :-)

Time: 24th September 2012 8:38am

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M Nash says...
Some of my garlic is starting to separate in the ground, Does this mean its time to harvest? or is there another problem? They are of usable size now but not as big as the parents.
I planted them bang on winter solstice


Time: 5th November 2012 11:11am

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Brendan says...
Yep M Nash, time to dig them up. (if you don't, they'll start sprouting again). :-(

Time: 5th November 2012 1:45pm

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M Nash says...
Thank you Brendan, Sending the Kids out now

Time: 5th November 2012 4:54pm

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Julie says...
A lot of my garlic split early on, and developed leaves more like grass. Never made proper bulbs. I suspect it had been treated, though it has never happened before.

I am going to hang on the to the good ones from a friend and not eat them, just save for next year's planting.



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Brendan says...
Hi Julie, my normal garlic this year was a bit of a flop, but I did have a win with that Coles Aussie untreated garlic, looks real good :-)

Time: 7th November 2012 9:40am

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Julie says...
Brendan, my local Coles only ever has Chinese garlic. I have to look elsewhere for the local stuff.

How do you know it was untreated? Did it say on the label?

Time: 7th November 2012 8:35pm

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Brendan says...
Yes Julie, here's some pics of the garlic I bought from Coles. Hope they sell it again next year :-)

(these pics were posted earlier too)
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Time: 8th November 2012 7:45am

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StediRidge says...
Hi Everyone, when the garlic sends up multiple shoots, particularly later in the season, this is generally caused by environmental factors such as the year being too hot, too much water, not enough water, etc. The garlic can still be used as seed garlic the next year and will produce proper bulbs given a good season.

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Sil says...
Garlic was a success :) Pulled 110 bulbs a little early as we had a week of heavy rain scheduled - it's hot and delicious!
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Time: 8th November 2012 8:40pm

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Julie says...
Thanks Brendan, I'll look out for it next season.

StediRidge, not all my garlic did that, just some - I planted garlic from more than one source. Still a bit early to dig up here, it's nowhere near ready, so don't know how they are all doing.

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Hi All,

We grow garlic in the Snowy Mountains in Australia. At present garlic entering our country ( imported garlic) is hit with bleach and Methyl Bromide. Methyl Bromide is a toxic gas that is recognised on the Australian Government websites such as the Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries as an Ozone layer destructive gas. Log on to these sites and search Methyl Bromide - our Government states that this gas destroys our ozone layer. This gas is as destructive as the chloroflurocarbons in refrigerants that were banned. How can we accept the destruction of our ozone layer!! Australia has been given an exemption under the Montreal Protocol to use this gas which has safety issues when handled and when consumed. We need to say no to imported garlic and re-establish an Australian chemical free garlic industry and start caring about what we do to our environment and our bodies. If anyone wants to get garlic growing and get our industry on its feet again, contact me and I will help you. Yes, I sell garlic for growing so I am not impartial - you do not need to buy from me as there are others you can get the stock from on the internet if you want to. We do need to protect the only ozone layer we have and an exemption to destroy the ozone layer over Australia because of cheep imported garlic and using it as a fumigant in our soils to prevent fungus is not an option. Alternatives are said to be expensive but expensive compared to what!? destroying our Earths protective radiation screen!? maybe we can use some carbon tax to pay for a non toxic alternative. To use this toxin is unacceptable and no argument can convince me we need to use it. Destroying our ozone layer, thinking it is justifiable is negligent.

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Julie says...
The big problem with garlic is it's not available in winter - possibly when we use it most? It starts sprouting in autumn and has to be planted,so no local garlic is in the shops.

I get over this by trying to grow enough garlic so I can freeze the excess. I just pull apart the bulbs and freeze in a bag. The skin comes off really easily when you take it out. It's a little softer, but otherwise OK.

Time: 31st December 2012 9:21pm

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Brendan says...
I've tried freezing garlic Julie, and wasn't impressed, went brown & yukky?

I try to grow enough that after I've planted mine, I have enough to last through winter. Sometimes it works:-)
I store it in a pillow case, hanging up in the shed. (not in the fridge).

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Jantina says...
I wonder how you would go slicing each clove in half and drying it Brendan? I have garlic chives that grow year round, not as pungent as the bulbs but still unmistakably garlic flavour and fragrance (or pong depending on your point of view!)

Time: 1st January 2013 10:56am

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Julie says...
Brendan, I have no idea why they would go brown - I have been freezing mine for about 15 years and had no problems.

I do have a very cold freezer, which might make a difference. The freezer part of the fridge doesn't do as well.

Time: 1st January 2013 8:46pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Jantina & Julie, just thinking about the frozen garlic, if I remember correctly, it was imported garlic that I froze. Will try my own next year. Yes Julie, my freezer is very old :-(

Yeah I also grow garlic chives, just love em on whole baked potatoes!(with butter), or on a salad sandwich.



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Snowy Garlic says...
Hi,

Rather than freeze your garlic,which will turn it brown, put the full cloves or cut cloves into a jar of olive oil and store in the fridge. That way you will have a garlic infused olive oil and your garlic will keep. Enjoy your garlic.

Time: 2nd January 2013 4:55pm

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Julie says...
Dehydrating garlic cloves before submerging in oil will prevent food-borne illness, and the combination can be safely stored at room temperature as long as the garlic is properly dehydrated. If you're unsure, it's best to store the cloves in the refrigerator or freezer.

Never store garlic in oil at room temperature. This can cause botulism, which leads to serious illness or even death if consumed. Always store fresh garlic preserved in oil in the refrigerator or freezer.



Read more: How to Preserve Garlic in Olive Oil | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5081820_preserve-garlic-olive-oil.html#ixzz2GoOsRJDS

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Jantina says...
Thanks for tht suggestion Snowy, sounds delicious.
Julie that's an interesting little site, take a look at the dried powdered garlic Brendan, I'm going to give that a go too.

Time: 3rd January 2013 11:03am

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M Nash says...
Snowy Mountains Garlic,
I think you will find that crock about the ozone layer was more about the patents on certain gasses running out.
They didnt want them copied so a timely phsyc opp on the masses and "Suddenly" safe gas(s) was produced by the same company. Let he who can count the ways mate.

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Xiem says...
I don't know about the ozone layer but I prefer garlic without a dressing of bleach and methyl bromide thank you.

Time: 5th January 2013 1:36pm

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Snowy Mountains Garlic says...
M Nash,
I am not ok with the health impacts or any environmental impacts. The world and the Australian Government says Methyl Bromide is an ozone depleting substance, so why use it - why would we risk damaging our atmosphere when we only have one of them!? Wherever big money is involved their will always be spin and as you say "phsyc opps on the masses."

http://www.daff.gov.au/agriculture-food/ag-vet-chemicals/international/methyl-bromide

It says: "Methyl Bromide and the Montreal Protocol

Methyl bromide is a chemical used to fumigate soil before planting and for post-harvest treatment and structural fumigation. It is extremely effective but is also recognised as an ozone-depleting substance.

From 1 January 2005 all uses of methyl bromide, other than for quarantine and pre-shipment (QPS) or feedstock applications, were prohibited in Australia. However, some 'critical use exemptions' have been allowed by the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer."



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John P says...
We should have some garlic available
in Nov/Dec 2013
Checkout our website :
aussiegarlic.com


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M Nash says...
I supose we in the warmer climate should be talking about garlic about now.
Last year I planted on the winter solstice but was too late. Think ill throw in some this week end, Im sensing an ease to the rain

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Diana says...
Good idea, I was thinking the same thing about garlic planting time in Brisbane, M. The weather has turned and it's not humid any more, with cool, clear nights.
I put some chook manure in the patch set aside for some glenn large about a month ago, and dolomite two weeks ago, so it is not so bad that we couldn't plant until now.
Time for peas too.
Good luck with your weather.

Time: 19th April 2013 6:59pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Diana & M Nash, I planted 28 garlics on 25th March, and 144 on April 1st.
We had a massive storm on 2nd April, and I thought all my garlics would be ruined, but they all pulled through :-)
Funny thing, the ones planted later, came up first?

There's also 10 tomato plants in background of pic 1. I planted 2 Big Beef, 4 Mortgage Lifter & 4 Black Krim :-)
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amanda says...
They look great Brendan :) Maybe the raised garden bed has been a blessing after the storm...? a Garlic grower here tells me they plant them on mounds/raised - so they don't get too wet...(and cover them with straw to prevent frost damage)

I planted some viable bulbs in dec/Jan just to see what would happen - they didn't come up until 2 months later..?!

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Jantina says...
Brendan I have some garlic you might like, called Dynamite, apparently has a hot chilli flavour. Rated 9 on the intensity scale. Says they have succulent edible flower scapes too. A change of computer lost most of my email addressses so could you email me again on
jantinarohde at activ8 dot net dot au

Amanda I've been away again for 3 days I WILL write soon.

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M Nash says...
Cool Diana, Im just down the road from you on the Tweed.
Brendan, Lets hope you have success.
Im replanting a mix of left over Coles Aussie garlic and Spanish imported. All was grown from last year so second gen.
Thing is Ive been using the fattest bulbs for eating and Ive lots of smaller ones that didn't make it to full size. I hope the smaller cloves can grow to a respectable size.

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Brendan says...
Hi amanda, Jantina & M Nash.

amanda: Yeah, the raised bed (about 600mm high), helped handle the 60mm of rain we had in that storm :-) I'm not a fan of planting garlic on mounds, as it 'usually' likes to grow partly above the ground (by itself). Been meaning to tell you, Yates now are selling Mortgage Lifter & Black Krim tomato seeds. Maybe they read my/our post(s) from a while back?

Jantina: Yes, I'd like some Dynamite garlic, thanks. I've grown garlic from down south before, but wasn't too good, but I'm wiiling to give yours a go. I'll email you.

M Nash: You're probably using your garlic the wrong way? You are supposed to plant the fattest (outside) bulbs, and eat the inside smaller ones. You grow the biggest bulbs from the larger cloves :-)
Photo of a Monaro Purple garlic bulb I grew a few years ago, next to store-bought bulb.


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amanda says...
I'd be vey happy to grow garlic like that Brendan! How do u manage to store yours in the tropics?!

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Brendan says...
Hi amanda, I store my garlic in a large brown paper bag, properly sealed, hung in the shed so no rats or bugs can attack it.
I used to use a old pillow case, but the tiny bugs still got in. Don't know what they are, but they're like a small beetle?

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Fruit lover myles says...
Hi everyone just planted some garlic and is sprouting lovely I've added healthy earth rock dust what else could I added to make sure I get nice Lush garlic first time growing by the way :)Thanks myles p.s my local nursery had a mix of brunnings kelp and dolomite maybe I could try that?

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Brendan says...
Hi Flm, I remember someone rang up Annette McFarlane on her radio show, asking how to grow bigger garlic bulbs?
Her answer was fertilize it more :-) Seems simple, but it's not really. Try this brew: 2 parts blood & bone, 1 part sulphate of potash, 1 part phosphorus & 1 part Epsom Salts. Mix all together and spread that around your garlic plants. Or just use a good complete organic fertilizer, I like organic Super Growth. http://www.katekfertilizers.com.au/Organic-Super-Growth.html http://www.annettemcfarlane.com/
Btw, dolomite is good too :-)

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Boris Spasky says...
Garlic needs good levels of P, but not early on. After 2-3 months, linked to increasing day length and bulb formation is when the P uptake is greatest.
Brendan, the fertiliser you recommended has negligible phosphorus.


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M Nash says...
So its a two stage process Boris? A good general furt to kick things off then pile in the P ?

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Julie says...
Boris, if you are using rock phosphate it probably takes that long to be available anyway. It breaks down quite slowly.

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Fruit lover myles says...
hi brendan makes sense to me :) but i will replace the blood and bone with another meal that is vegan friendly lol

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Brendan says...
Boris, the blood & bone fertilizers NPK is: 5:5:0, add an extra part of P, and I'd say it has a lot of phosphorus!
Some of the best garlic I've grown, I used Potato Fert from bunnings, it's NPK was 4:7:7 (was not organic tho).

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zincsulfate says...
oh, wonderful.I learned a lot.

Time: 31st May 2013 10:23am

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Amy F says...
Hi, I think I have the purple type up here haven't had any luck with store bought, grows beautifully but no bulb, we're in the ranges so a bit cooler. Its the first time I've had a crop that hasn't been either water logged or nibbled by natives&chooks haven't looked under the ground yet but quietly optimistic, will try some potato fertilizer


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Brendan says...
Hi Amy F, I have some extra garlic cloves to plant if you want some? It's 'nearly' getting too late to plant garlic here, but you're welcome to have some. Mine is growing good, it was planted April 1st :-)
Email me at: bitquicker at bigpond.com (if you want)

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Sandradee says...
Growing garlic

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