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Some tips on grafting, for amanda, and anyone else :-)
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Time: 20th February 2012 9:32am

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Brendan says...
Here's one I did long ago. Used a clothes peg to hold it together, then sealed it with Tree Stac.
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Time: 20th February 2012 9:43am

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amanda says...
Great pictures Brendan :) They are really helpful - thanks for posting...
(love the peg job too! :D

Time: 20th February 2012 10:10am

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john says...
The Americans talk enthusiastically about something called ParFilm which is like Glad Wrap It permits new shoots to push through. I got hold of some from a supplier and will give it a go. Florists use it but their stuff breaks too easily.

Time: 20th February 2012 3:29pm

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john says...
That should be ParaFilm

Time: 20th February 2012 3:31pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Parafilm and buddytape are 2 forms of this tape. it is different to gladwrap as it stretches a lot as you wrap, and it is self adhesive as you wind, making a good seal. When grafting I still use normal grafting over the cuts to fully support the union.

Time: 20th February 2012 5:52pm

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Jason says...
I use normal tape over the cut, and parafilm for the entire scion now. You don't reallllly need parafilm because you can use a loose damp plastic bag to do the same job, parafilm just makes it easier as the buds break out by themselves

Time: 20th February 2012 6:44pm

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john says...
The trouble with a loose bag over the scion is that it catches the wind and, on some days, will dislodge the lot if you're not careful.

Time: 21st February 2012 9:12am

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amanda says...
DroughtShield would be helpful for grafted scions and cuttings?
It would cut the transpiration rate down a lot...anyone tried it?

Time: 23rd February 2012 9:18pm

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amanda says...
On second thoughts - it might stop the necessary water absorbtion thru the leaves, also? Hmnn..

Time: 24th February 2012 7:02pm

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Mike says...
These days I always use the grafting tape and have a plastic bag with a few holes over the top for cleft grafts.I gave up on the grafting wax but still use the bituminous pruning spray to seal it after I remove the tape.The wind does cause dramas if I leave them in vulnerable spots.Approach grafting is slower and not as good for doing lots but has a good success rate.There are guides around that advise on the best grafting technique and preferred age/thickness of scions and rootstocks for each species.

Time: 24th February 2012 9:06pm

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john says...
The trouble with grafting wax is that no one tells you that, if you force it, then it will get between the cambium layers and ruin the graft.

Time: 25th February 2012 9:40am

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Mike says...
john that was my experience with grafting wax and just the standard bunnings grafting tape,plastic cylinder and pegs/clips at times is good enough for clefts and saddles (ala John Mc).I did some hypocotyl and epicotyl grafting for early fruiting,dwarfing and low later rejection but they died of thirst when I was on holidays.

Time: 25th February 2012 9:57am

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John Mc says...
I use glad wrap on outside grafts, does the job very well.


Time: 25th February 2012 12:37pm

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Brendan says...
Found these 'proper' grafting clips on the net :-)

Don't know who sells them.

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Time: 26th February 2012 8:33am

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Brendan says...
Found something like these at http://stores.ebay.com.au/All-Seasons-Seeds/Vegetable-Seeds-/_i.html?_fsub=520500012&_sid=728106752&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

They have interesting veggie seeds!

Time: 26th February 2012 9:10am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
New Gippsland seeds and bulbs in Victoria sell them as tomato grafting clips, along with wilt resistant tomato rootstock seed. Quite a niftly little kit.

Time: 26th February 2012 11:37am

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John Mc says...
Abiu-Z2 - I see Cape Trib will be selling grafted Z2 Abiu's soon. Are they any good?

Time: 26th February 2012 6:08pm

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Mike says...
John Mc Z2 is much like Z4 with more seeds and bigger tha Z3.Fruit are large,firm and deep yellow when ripwe and the trees are large and productive.They are better than inca gold, the NT T series and gray.I reckon he 3 best in order are E4,Z4 and Z2.The Z stands for Zapalla who live at Hervey Creek.

Time: 26th February 2012 6:40pm

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John Mc says...
Thanks Mike, I have a couple of seedlings from Daley's and three seedling Z4's thanks to you. I still don't know how they are going to perform in my climate, I have one in a pot approaching two years of age reaching well over 2m high and no sign of any flowers. Maybe another 12 months?

Time: 26th February 2012 7:54pm

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John Mc says...
BTW, how are your Cocona's going?
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Time: 26th February 2012 8:00pm

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Mike says...
John Mc up here seedlings take about 3 or 4 years (2.8m) to fruit and grafted ones 2 or 3 (2.3m).They usually have a flowering year prior to the fruit sticking.You get more fruit if they can x-pollinate with another tree.They are well worth it and have sweet fruit with subtle caramel and vanilla flavours.I value my trees as highly as any fruit trees in the yard.
I would have thought there was no chance of growing them outside the tropics but many people on this forum are pushing back the frontiers with tropical fruit.

Time: 26th February 2012 8:14pm

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BJ says...
Mine have flowered three times this year. Currently 2m tall and purchased a bit over 2 years ago. Hoping for fruit within a year. if not, the seedling Z4 and E4 will replace. They will most probably replace the current tree anyways...

Time: 26th February 2012 8:45pm

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