Graviola tree (forum)

Stephen starts with ...
Do you have Graviola tree (Guyabano/soursop fruit)?

How long before we have fruits please?

Thank you

Time: 1st May 2010 11:01am

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trikus says...
A very tropical tree that would not bear fruit for you in Sydney . I knew a grower who tried for 20 years in Bundy , and a neighbour tried for 10 years nearbye . Though I saw fruit in a protected spot in Maryborough and have heard of fruit recently in Brisbane [global warming ?]
Mine has some small fruits on it now .

Have only seen the graviloa name used in the supposed anti-cancer sites .I believe it to be a scam ..

Time: 1st May 2010 10:13pm

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Speedy says...
Yeah, I've never heard of the name Graviola before...
only Annona, Guanabana, Guayabano, soursop, Zirzak etc.
I've seen a few Soursop trees (Annona muricata) fruiting in NNSW.
Byron Bay, Gold Coast (Qld), Murwillumbah, Mullumbimby etc.
If you have a mild , frost free microclimate, you might get one to fruit, but I wouldn't depend on it.
Mountain soursop (A.montana) is much hardier, but nowhere near as good to eat as soursop.

Cherimoya (Annona cherimola), although not the same , might be a better choice of Annona spp for Sydney climate.
I dont think you'd be dissapointed with the flavour of Cherimoya, it's better than the commercial custard apples (Atemoya).


Time: 2nd May 2010 3:43pm

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Gabi says...
Hi, if someone has a seed or something I would do anything for it! It's my favorite fruit ever!!! I know the chances in the Gold Coast are slim, but would try my best!

Time: 30th June 2011 8:03pm

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David says...
Just to let you know have been growing soursops here at home for the last 20 years.The tree i purchased was a seedling tree and has been an outstanding performer,i also have a grafted tree and is currently covered in fruit,although now with the cold weather it wont be until spring that they start to mature.

Time: 30th June 2011 10:46pm

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Mike says...
Soursops are not as popular as they used to be and the only other name I have heard is guanabana from American toursts.They do alright on some parts of the Atherton tableland and seem to thrive in some areas that get frosts. I presume they could be grown in NSW. There is a lot of variability in fruit size (to 3kg),taste and fibre.Cuban fibreless is an old fashioned common type.

Time: 30th June 2011 11:41pm

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Lori says...
With all these brainy long winded responses...not one answered the question. How long does it take a seedling tree to bear fruit. Yeah we get that it may not bear fruit depending on climate...that isnt the question. Does anyone know how long it should take for a seedling tree to mature and bear fruit? 6 months? A year? 2years??? Thanks.

Time: 22nd February 2013 6:28pm

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John Mc says...
Your climate makes all the difference Lori, for instance, I'm just north of Sydney and my seedling hasn't fruited in four years. My grafted ones haven't fruited in three years. I've read that seedlings can fruit in under 2 years in the tropics.

Time: 22nd February 2013 7:06pm

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Boris Lavini says...
I grow very good graviola here and I think my produce is the best in the world. I have cured so many people here in the UK who have this illness and I want to extend my medicinal help world wide. If you need soursop fruit, leaves, seeds just kindly e-mail me at the below address: borislavini@yahoo.com

Thanks and waiting on your inquiries.

Time: 10th September 2013 9:06pm

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starling says...
Stephen,

Please beware of scientifically illiterate, bongo-beating cranks who peddle Bogus cancer cures using massively ambiguous anecdotal evidence and infantile language to describe complex compounds of which they have no more understanding of than a budgie has of particle physics.

That would be Mr Lavini here, to wit:

"I have cured so may people here in the UK who have this illness and I want to extend my medicinal help worldwide"

Ok, sure thing Mother Teresa.

People like this are not qualified to inform you about anything at all; they are not scientists, have not published any research,and will defer to conspiracy theories in order to justify their own lack of knowledge and expertise and to protect the source of their income. They will cite gimcrack papers , which are self-published by affiliated scurrilous sciolists out of bare-mattress rooms in which they spend their days eating cold beans directly from tins in their underwear whilst high on bathtub-brewed ayahuasca.

There is actually incredibly strong data which suggests that soursop is a PRIMARY cause of parkinsons disease, and in fact in regions (particularly south america) where it is highly consumed there are rates of parkinsons which could be described as epidemic. Scientists believe that this is because soursop contains a neurotoxin called annonacin.

In fact, if you type parkinson's soursop into google scholar, you will find an abundance of peer reviewed journals which report very, very tentative links between parkinson's disease and soursop consumption.

Further, on the island of Guadeloupe where soursop is very heavily consumed, parkinsons disease is rampant. It occurs with such frequency that the medical farternity has developed the term "Guadeloupean parkinsons".

You can read a medical journal abstract about this here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18816693

And if you want the specifics (the nuts and bolts) this article is particularly informative. This is something you won't get from the lunatic fringe, incidentally http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14521988

This is real science, done by scientists, not entrepreneurial snakeoil peddlers. These people make a living by exploiting the sadness of the desperate and ill.They are ticks and leeches--in fact they are worse than this, because those organisms are not consciously aware that what they are doing is wrong and have no choice in what they do anyway.

I strongly urge anybody who reads this to eat soursoup very, very sparingly--please at least peruse the research. I can access full journals via my institution free of charge, and I am happy to do this for anybody who would like to research the effects of soursop. Just send me the link to the abstract, I will get the full PDF and will forward the full version to you.

S

Time: 11th September 2013 12:07pm

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trikus says...
I think it is a tea made from the leaves of the soursop tree that is being touted . Very interesting info posted above , thanks . Had to look up the word sciolist , = a person who gives their opinion on subjects of which they have only superficial knowledge. or, Late Latin sciol(us) one who knows little .
Someone with superficial knowledge who pretends to be an expert ...very apt .

Time: 11th September 2013 3:24pm

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Boris Lavini says...
Hello, good day how are you doing? I read your inquiry and I will like to let you know that we can supply you in bulk. What quantity do you need? kindly send me and email at: borislavini@yahoo.com

Thanks.

Time: 8th April 2015 5:22am

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MIke T1 says...
Guadeloupe has very high levels of consumption and the evidence is strong for soursop causing the Parkinson like symptoms at those intake rates.The evidence for a cancer cure or even relief with the leaves is much more tenuous.There is a fair bit published on it.

Time: 8th April 2015 8:19pm

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