Green mango's in Oz (forum)

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I know the Asian community's in Oz grow most Thai mangovariety's.

But are they also available all year around?

I'm just curious if they fruit like they do here or maybe here they use some tricks to get them fruiting?

Time: 12th September 2015 11:32am

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David says...
The markets where I scan for rare fruits is awash with mangoes both green (Sweet and sour), and the typical Kensington pride, and yes the greens are mostly Thai types, not sure if they are around for most of the year though.Hope this helps

Time: 12th September 2015 1:03pm

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Bangkok says...
David i think your climate is too cold for mango's to fruit all year around.

I just wonder if in N-Queensland they also fruit offseason. That would mean those green eating variety's can fruit themselves without using anything to help them fruit.

If that's the case than i would use a few of them to make a tree with multiple rootstocks. I'm trying to build a mangotree which fruits all year around and graft good variety's onto that to see what happens.

Time: 13th September 2015 11:47am

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Brain says...
I think you will find in aus, due to the range of climates, can have a longer season for consumers.

I always recall seeing northern territory kensington pride mango first, then followed by qld kps and so forth. So in short, we have different farms producing mangos at different time, as each farm gets hotter in spring/summer.

I think you will find the choc annon produce 2 crops a year and sam ru du 3 crops. Both are thai types and you should be able to get them.

In brisbane at least, the green mango - which i wait forever for it to ripe - are mostly nam doc mai and the occassion falan.

A few of us die hards do try to grow these types and various other mangos with some success.

Time: 13th September 2015 1:00pm

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David says...
Sounds interesting BK, you are right of course. Here in Brisbane im lucky to have Keitts and slightly later Brooks mangoes as late as may in some years ,this is partly due to the tree being in part shadow so extends mango season for me really long.

Time: 13th September 2015 1:03pm

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Bangkok says...
I don't know anything about KP mango's but Oz is so large with different climates that it's sure possible they come at different times.

NDM is not eaten green (often) in Thailand, we have plenty others like Kaew, Raed, Keo savoy, falang for that. These are available all year which surprises me. I wonder if that happens naturally or the Thai use tricks to do that.

My experience is that chokanan fruits the most times a year of all. Sam rue do didn't do so on my tree/location.

Yes i can easy buy all those mango's on the markets but i want to grow them myself which is more fun. And i want the best variety's all year around which is another problem to solve.

My NDM-green has 2 flowers now caused by pruning the branch but it seems nothing set fruit. We didn't get much rain but yes had some showers lately.

So ndm-green is not suitable for what i want but i have 25 other variety's to play with.

I read that multiple rootstock tree's grow much faster then single rootstock but the tree i have now with 4 different rootstocks just grows normal speed. I hope it speeds up soon.

But for climates like Brisbane area i guess you can grow the same variety's as they do in Spain/Israel. Osteen, Maya and others are grown there on large scale.





Time: 13th September 2015 1:58pm

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David says...
NDM are in the market place right now, have an Osteen not planted yet,strangely and off topic was in the UK in 2003 and visited a local nursery and found Osteen mango trees being offered for sale,(strange).The Thai equivalent to chokanan is called King Thai sold here , have a tree in its second year of fruiting so fingers crossed ,beautiful coloured mango, Mike up north in Cairns has the pick of the run regarding mangoes and anything Tropical. Sadly we are limited by that horrible thing called WINTER.

Time: 13th September 2015 2:42pm

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Bangkok says...
Well i guess Thai King is mahachanok mango. But i get tired of country's renaming mango's for whatever reason.

Chokanan is green and yellow when ripe, you pick them when you see them starting to get yellow so you can store it for some days.
Mahachanok gets orange with a pink blush. My mahachanok branches never bloomed since 2-3 years.

Maybe in the UK some people like to try growing mango's, in greenhouses or so? But it's a little wet there (and cold).

Yes Mike T.might know it but he's more into the rare fruit i guess. Also i don't know where the asian community's in Oz are.

Time: 13th September 2015 3:30pm

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Brain says...
I think if you grow enough varieties, you can get all year round. I am thinking the earlys, mids, and lates.

Time: 13th September 2015 7:26pm

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Bangkok says...
Not really Brain, they still like to come all together in march/april/may.

The green ones come all year that's why i would like to know if they also do that in ultra tropical Oz.

And even if they bloom offseason (in the wetseason) then it takes a strong variety to set fruit in the humid climate. Chokanan and the lot can do but they aren't the best mango's.

There is also ndm-gold on the markets almost all year but for a high price and they used tricks to get them offseason. They taste better in the real mangoseason though.

Time: 13th September 2015 8:38pm

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David says...
Tricks eh, I knew you had to be a magician, of some sorts.

Time: 13th September 2015 8:51pm

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Bangkok says...
Well i read that in N-Oz they also use paclobutrazol to get the mango's blooming.

I guess the thai spray KNO3 potassiumnitrate or use the old girdling trick.



Time: 13th September 2015 9:18pm

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Brain says...
if you have enough resources, you can always build your ownn climate controlled greenhouse :)

I once thought of having an industrial fridge to give my cherries (failed experiment) the cold chill it needed. lol.

that's the problem with fruit trees, when the conditions are great, you get too much fruit (first world problems). So you just have to think old school, in the bygone years, people would have made jam, dried fruit slices to preserve the fruit.

Time: 14th September 2015 9:55am

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