HELP - Your Vote & Comments On This Graft Is Needed (forum)

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This fruit tree was recently acquired.
On closer look, the rootstock on the LEFT side has split away from the stem.
Photos of the grafted joint from three (3) slightly different perspectives, each with an accompanying zoom, are provided for your viewing.

Pictures 1 & 2: The full plant, and close up zoom of the grafted joint is shown.
Picture 1 Full Plant
Picture 2 Full Plant (zoom on stem)

Pictures 3 & 4: The rootstock on the LEFT side had split away from the stem, and close up zoom of the grated joint is included.
It can be seen that the top of the rootstock is approximately 5 mm apart from the main stem.
Picture 3 Rootstock Split from Stem
Picture 4 Rootstock Split from Stem (zoom)

Pictures 5 & 6: Another perspective of the
Pictures - Click to enlarge

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Picture: 2
Picture: 3
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Picture: 6

Time: 17th March 2010 2:33am

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Brendan says...
Hi Shaun,
You didn't say what the tree was.

My two-bobs worth, the grafting tape has been removed too early, hence the 'split'.
I'd re-tape it asap. Make the tape as tight as you can.

It should grow tho.

Time: 17th March 2010 10:11am

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Shaun says...
Hi Brendan,
It is a plum tree.
Thanks for your comments.

Time: 17th March 2010 6:40pm

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Roch says...
My understanding is stone fruits should be grafted when dormant.

Time: 19th March 2010 9:47am

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Itdepends says...
Retape it and as long as it doesn't die- it'll callous over (as grafts do anyway) and thrive. Might set it back 6-12 months though compared to a tre that still had the tape on.

Standard graft (normal).

Time: 19th March 2010 3:06pm

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Shaun says...
Alas, if only I know how to retape, I would do it.

Time: 20th March 2010 9:00pm

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Saxman says...
Hi Shaun, yes I'd definitely retape it and possibly complain to Daley's. That was the tree from the last shipment wasn't it? The Blood Plum? Might be why the leaves were not doing so well. An expensive mistake for them to make if it dies considering the crazy shipping cost...

You should be able to get the tape from a good local nursery mate.

Time: 20th March 2010 10:24pm

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Jimmy says...
Bunnings have it.

Time: 21st March 2010 8:22am

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Yong says...
Shaun, judging by the size of the tree(bud wood) that had taken off to such a height, I would say the grafting has succeeded, even though the left hand side of the "wedge" graft appears to be coming apart. Note the right hand side of the joint seems to have fused together.
Answers to your questions:
1. Normal graft
2. Somewhat unlikely to buy
3. Somewhat good chance

I would as someone suggested, is re-tape the joint just to give a bit of reinforcement until a "full" callous forms a more complete joint.

Time: 21st March 2010 11:13pm

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Charles cant spell says...
Ya, you wouldn't buy one that looked like that in the shop but thats because it would either be still taped or grown over. If you saw that in the shop it would be the last one on the rack. The left top of root stock will die down to half way and the grafted top will heal around that dip.

As already said, it should be an immediate re-tape (just to stop anymore spliting down the left. Tapping wise not knowing how but thinking logically start your taping below the lowest part of the graft, wrap tightly overlapping 1/2 way on the tape till you get about 2 tap widths about the top. Leave it till it falls off or the tree outgrows it.

Looks like its 80% taken so you should be fine.

Time: 21st March 2010 11:26pm

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Itdepends says...
Use grafting tape too- not electrical tape. It's generally semi clear- pink or white. Very flexible- you can put it on (and should put it on) fairly tight- it should streatch as you wind it on.

Time: 22nd March 2010 4:09pm

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Brendan says...
G'day Shaun,
Your poor tree could still be alive. Try scratching a tiny piece of bark ABOVE the graft. If it's greenish, you may be in luck, and the tree might survive.

I think I can see a green shoot above the graft in photo 4, which means it's still alive.

I've done a bit of grafting in my time, and I would say that is not a 'perfect' graft!
I would have thought Daleys would send you a replacement tree, no questions asked?
Can I ask how much that tree cost?

Time: 18th April 2010 7:08am

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Charles cant spell says...
That is not a perfect graft, while the graft may be good enough to take, to state that it is perfect, is like a lawn mower man mowing your lawn so low the are no blades of grass left and it looks dead. Though it looks crap the grass will grow back but it's hardly a perfect lawn mowing job.

I am somewhat surprised at that reply from what would otherwise seem a professional outfit. From the manner in which you post on here I would suspect you might have rubbed some people up the wrong way. I dont have an issue with your posts but they do have a manner which could be taken badly.

Cheers and good luck. Hope we hear from Dailies, I dont think they visit there own forum to much anymore. I.e. the request for results from the my edibles competition results.

I suspect the keen folks on this forum might be doing Daileys job a little to well with regards to customer help and feedback and there is no need for Daileys reps to bother.

Time: 18th April 2010 1:31pm

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