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M Nash starts with ...
Can anyone tell me if the hybrid "Honey Gold" mango will grow true to seed? if I planted one from the supermarket.

Time: 19th February 2010 3:04pm

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Dave says...
I believe the Honey Gold has a monoembryonic seed, therefore it will not grow true to seed as it will be a hybrid of the parents.

The Kengsington Pride or R2E2 on the other hand are polyembryonic and will grow true to seed. You will actually get many mango trees out of one of these seeds.

I'll just add that I couldn't exactly find out if the honey gold is poly or mono, but I'm pretty confident that it is mono. You will be able to tell by looking at the seed, as the seed has many embryos which looks like it has many seeds all stuck together.

If someone else does know for sure, I would like to know this as well. As I currently got 10 R2E2 seedlings (from only 2 mango seeds) on the go and would love to chuck in a Honey Gold as well.

Dave

Time: 19th February 2010 4:03pm

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Edward says...
I planted some seeds of this variety and found several seedlings coming up from each seed. So it looks like this variety is polyembryonic and hence I would expect it to come true to type. So give it a go.

Time: 25th April 2010 5:39pm

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Dave says...
Thats excellent to hear, looks like they are polyembryonic :) I'm going to try found one of these bad boys at the supermarket and grow my own.

If you have many seedlings you are going to have to either cut off all but one (leave the smallest as I've heard this bares the best fruit) or seperate the seedlings otherwise they will just strangle each other. I've seperated the seedlings and it's not that hard, but I would wait till each seedling is a few inches tall 2 at least. The reason for waiting is I'm down to 8 R2E2 seedlings now, where the 2 smallest (they were less than an inch) died off after I seperated them.

Keep us posted with any changes :)

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Time: 29th April 2010 12:35pm

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M Nash says...
Its planted, waiting for it to germinate


Time: 3rd May 2010 6:01pm

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Edward says...
Dave - I read somewhere that the smallest, weakest looking seedling is the sexually produced one and that's what you should discard. The strong looking ones should be true to type.

As for separating them, I waited till they were 15-20 cm tall before separating them, carefully so as not to break the roots, which means you have to jiggle them a bit and they will come apart.

Time: 10th May 2010 2:01pm

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Elizabeth says...
Hi, I live in a non humid climate area, and was always wanting to plant a Mango tree for my own use, only because I love eating Mangoes.

I'm only interested in the most juiciest and sweetest mangoes. I'm not an expert at identifying the type of mangoes, but what I have read online, that the best mangoes are the "Kensington Pride" and the "Honey Gold Mango.

I don't want to grow a large Tree, ONLY a dwarf, that would harvest alot of fruit.

Can anyone explain to me "HOW TO GROW A MANGO TREE in a cooler climate area.

Melbourne climate has the four seasons in one.
Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring.

I was also wondering if growing a Mango Tree in a Greenhouse would work.
Does anyone have any idea?

Please reply back to me ASAP.

Cheers!

Liz

Time: 13th February 2011 6:42pm

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Jason says...
Edward I seem to remember reading that the largest strongest plant is the sexually produced one :S, that would seem to make more sense with how nature works to me but I could be wrong.

Liz if you live in inner Melbourne and plant it pretty close (against a North facing reflective white wall) in backyard that has lots of pavers or some thing like like that to give off some extra heat at night I'd give you a decent chance of getting fruit but it's never going to be worth the effort compared to just buying them in a place this far South.

They wont grow in Southern Victoria in the climate that Souther Victoria really is... but Melbourne has become a separate thing these days with it's own climate that's no longer the same as the rest of the coast, it has more heat (about 3c extra both day and night). You can see it any time a storm is on the way, it always intensifys and blows harder/floods more once it hits Melbourne

Time: 14th February 2011 3:27am

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shanka says...
can any one please tell where can i buy a honey gold dwarf mango tree thank you

Time: 27th September 2012 9:00am

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BJ says...
Shanka, I believe the Honey Gold is still available to commercial growers. Which is why they are able to be rediculously overpriced and rot on supremarket shelves.

Does anyone have an update if the Honey Gold really is poly?

Time: 27th September 2012 9:32am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I recently bought a couple of mangoes in Coles simply labelled "Green Mango". Ripened to a pale gold colour, nice but firm flesh, totally fibreless. Elongated, lady-finger like fruit. Anyone know if this is a named cultivar?

Time: 27th September 2012 11:13am

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BJ says...
any flavor - nutty tones - or just sweet and bland?
It could be Nam Doc Mai or Keow Savoy. I wouldnt expect others like Falan to be in the store.
The other possibility is that its a green banana, being so early in the season.

Time: 27th September 2012 12:21pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes it was quite a complex flavour, nutty isn't what I'd generally attribute to a mango but you may be right.

Time: 27th September 2012 12:33pm

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David_WM says...
Shanka, you can't buy a Honey Gold as it is a Plant Variety rights managed variety. Commercial growers need to have a commercial agreement with the owners of the variety to grow it and it has not been made available to the nursery industry as a garden plant.

Time: 30th September 2012 12:07am

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Edward says...
I've just returned to this forum and want to make a couple of points.

First, I want to confirm that the honey gold mango is polyembryonic, just like the Kensington Pride. If you plant one seed, you should get a few seedlings coming up from it. The weakest seedling is normally the sexually produced one, while the others are asexual (true to type).

The second point is that I think it is quite legal to grow it from seed for your own non-commercial use, though I haven't checked this rigorously. Perhaps someone knows the situation more accurately?

Time: 10th October 2012 9:33pm

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David_WM says...
Yes, it appears to be OK to grow your own for non commercial purposes.
Here is a link to the relevant laws in Australia:
http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/get-the-right-ip/plant-breeders-rights/about-pbr/



Time: 12th October 2012 12:49am

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denise1 says...
Why was Elizabeths question not answered so long ago. A greenhouse or polytunnel is perfect for growing a cooler climate mango and get lots of fruit. The important thing is to plant it well back from the door. and have the sunny end door permanently open or better still-no wall at all at the sunny end. That is to avoid build up of humidity which causes anthracnose. You could get several dozen fruit. Yes also it will grow against a north facing wall that gets the north sun. Under the eaves the foliage and flowers keeps drier. OK its cheaper to buy the fruit from the shops, but quite often the ones harvested from those home-grown conditions have a very nice intense flavour.

Time: 12th October 2012 7:08am

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Paul W says...
I planted a grafted mango in my unheated poly tunnel last year to see how it would go. It put on about a foot of growth over the summer. It didn't move at all over winter which is no surprise, but has several buds swelling up now that look like they are about ready to take off. I am about an hours drive east of Melbourne and would be a bit cooler than you, so i am definitely encouraged by its performance so far. The key thing for me was that it wasn't damaged at all by frost.

Time: 14th October 2012 8:44am

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denise1 says...
The next hint is to put shadecloth (30% shade?) on during the hottest months. If possible raised off above the plastic film. You may not need to do it but just keep it in mind.

Time: 14th October 2012 9:54am

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Markmelb says...
Hows everyone going with their HG seeds - I put in 2 seeds 3 weeks ago and are up and going in lovely heat we are getting in Melbourne
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Time: 3rd February 2014 11:47am

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Brain says...
very nice. I've found that at this stage, the water regularly and a bit of shade goes a long way.

I grew mine last year and now left with only 1 plant, after a few died :( from the summer heat/dry. Though mine is not too much bigger than yours. They seem to be more compact than Bowen/KP seedlings.

Time: 3rd February 2014 2:12pm

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Waterfall says...
I ate my first honey gold today from woolworthes and wow what a delicious mango it is!

I'm going to try grow one from seed, I'm just not sure if I can find some more space in my yard :-D

Time: 16th December 2014 7:09pm

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Beli says...
According to my trusty "Organic Fruit Growing" book, the Honey Gold is indeed a poly. Thanks for the tip - I'll be off to Woolies tomorrow to purchase a few! Also, it states that the clonal seedlings are the most vigorous and should be selected for growing on.

Time: 16th December 2014 9:36pm

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Markmelb says...
Beli - if yu look at my HGs in 3rd Feb pics above - They were the most vigorous and have planted one in ground and is about 33cm Tall and about to flush - one i left in pot is doing second flush as had no planting setback :)

Time: 16th December 2014 9:45pm

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Waterfall says...
My Honey Gold mango has germinated but only one shoot, I probably wont keep it as I really do not have any space left.

Time: 5th January 2015 9:00pm

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Markmelb says...
Maybe they have bred out the Polys so we cant grow our own tru to type - didnt buy any this year - why dont you just grow it in a pot for fun?


Time: 5th January 2015 9:08pm

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Waterfall says...
I bought 2 fruit and one seed looked poly and the other didn't. Also the one with the poly seed tasted twice as good as the the other.

Time: 5th January 2015 9:13pm

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Markmelb says...
I will have to note that next time i eat KPs etc - ones I did buy this year were a bit of a let down but wouldnt pay $4 for a Calypso that i do like and is mono so not worth growing - my seedling didnt get thru winter anyway - my last years HGs are quite slow to kick new growth - my KP is covered in fruit but i expect 90% to drop and my Palmer has a couple fruit size of a small pea but no growth flushes yet and the NDM is about to do a secong flush after a really good first flush of leaves so ATM may end up the best one for Melbourne or at least my Micro Climate.

Time: 5th January 2015 9:22pm

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Brain says...
You can get the sensation mango tree, which is one of the two parents to calypso. The calypso is protected so it would be tough to get a scion. Not sure how the sensation rastes like but maybe worth a shot?

Time: 5th January 2015 11:01pm

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Waterfall says...
I take back what I said before about only one shoot, just this past week another 2 have popped up.

Time: 19th February 2015 9:55am

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Mike says...
Honey Gold is Poly & you can plant it for private use only.....

Time: 19th February 2015 6:21pm

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sternus1 says...
Pfffft. What--- do you think they mango gestapo are going to kick your door down for dispersing mangoes ? pbr is meant to lock out rival producers, and no PBR holder gives a shit about backyard sellers anyway.

In any case, you would first need to be presented with a desist order before you could be litigated. So by all means, sell as many as you want .

Time: 19th February 2015 7:09pm

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Markmelb says...
Hope all Tropical people get thru next couple days ok with no losses -

Heres a follow up of my Honey Golds from last years grermination pics - the one in ground is slowed due to planting disturbance in ground but pot specimen is looking very good,
2 small plants - Honey Golds
Single Mango - Palmer
2 Mangos of 6 on tree - KP grafted
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Time: 19th February 2015 7:21pm

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Brain says...
Some say with mangos, the earliest shoot is true to type and so you should discard the rest, whilst the others say the opposite. You might need to keep both to be on the safe side.



Time: 19th February 2015 9:44pm

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Markmelb says...
The Honey Golds in the pics above are the best growers of the 2 seeds - i still have the 2nd best and those two are half the size and not as normal looking - I kept as you said above just for checking what they look like as they grow.

Time: 19th February 2015 9:57pm

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sternus1 says...
The fastest and most vigorous shoots are the clones. There's no need to overthink it.

Time: 19th February 2015 9:59pm

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sternus1 says...
The fastest and most vigorous shoots are the clones. There's no need to overthink it.

Time: 19th February 2015 10:00pm

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Adrian says...
Hi everyone, I have good experience growing mango from seed and also grafting mango trees, I live in suburban Adelaide and have 3 mango trees in my front yard which faces north so I get the winter sun too, climate here is hot and dry so humidity plays no part here.
In the pics the flowering mango is a Kensington I started from seed about 4 or 5 years ago and this is it's first flowering (Oct 2015) the 2nd tree is about 7 years old and I decided I didn't like the mangoes it produced (not sure what seed it grew from but was a mono) so you can see where I cut a branch and grafted a Kensington on to it (mid April) and as you can see has succeeded and is starting to grow, the 3rd tree is an R2E2 seed I planted 4 years ago and it now has a small amount of flowers so next year it will flower properly.
I never over water or over fertilise those or any fruit trees I have.
Pic 1 is the R2E2 so is pic 6, not sure what happened there.
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Time: 29th October 2015 6:25pm

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Brain says...
Very nice adrian, impressed with your work. And i hope you get some nice fruits this season.

As a side note, my honey gold seedling died last winter, not sure if the brisbane winter chill killed it or the dry. My atulafo seedings also died, as well as another kp seeding.

I am hoping this years mango supply is cheap and plentyful, so that i can try again.

Time: 30th October 2015 11:16pm

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Scott 10 says...
Hi Brian, I noticed the image that you use on your posts of the small mangoes in the tray. Are they Manilas? I am looking to try and grow a Manila tree as love. The taste but can't seem to find a seed.

Time: 2nd January 2016 4:01pm

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MIke T1 says...
By manila do you mean caraboa?

Time: 2nd January 2016 7:59pm

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Scott 10 says...
Yes, Caraboa are the ones. I think that sometimes these are known as Manila.

I would really like to get a seedling of one of these if anyone knows where I could.

Cheers.

Time: 3rd January 2016 9:36pm

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Brain says...
Hi scott, the picture is of nam doc mai, purchased in singapore a few years ago. Normally, they are mostly sold green here in aus, but they can be ripen and could taste pretty good. Anyway, i recall being disappointed with those two, as it was sourer than i expected and have tasted other sweeter and better versions prior. I give them a 7.

Not sure on the caraboa, but i recall reading the manila mango, is likely to be a clonal of the ataulfo mango, and look remarkably similar. It was believed the ataulfo travelled to phillipines and some one in mexico, grew it from seed having obtained some fruit from that region and called it manila.

Anyway, daley sales the tree and i also had grew one fruit 2 yrs ago and tasted it. I would rate it a 9 and if you are into mangos, i would recommend getting one. Good luck in your search.

Alternatively, call the mango gene bank as they might have a version of the tree.


Time: 4th January 2016 10:10pm

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Scott 10 says...
Excellent, thanks for the advice. I bought some tiny Golden Mangos from Yuens at Sunnybank over the weekend and they were great.

I will check out Daley's too as this may be a good option!

Time: 5th January 2016 10:06pm

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Brain says...
I know how you feel scott, i am in the hunt for an elusive mango, which i dont even know the var, from a decade ago. So keep on trying.

I also quite like falan, and waiting to either buy the fruit or tree.

I am just waiting to win lotto, so i can add more mango and grow them on a big farm. I am keen to give alphonso, florigon and valencia a go. The dream ...





Time: 6th January 2016 11:51am

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gordonh says...
Howdy.A good dwarf mango is Grafted Lamb Hass.Daleys will advise you if this variety is ok for your area

Time: 6th January 2016 8:21pm

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Markmelb says...
gordonh - did you realize lamb Hass is an Avocado Variety not a Mango - LH is a semi dwarf also and Daleys dont have - I have on and the fruit on it look like avos - taste like Avos - def not a mango:)

Time: 7th January 2016 1:20pm

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gordonh says...
To Markmelb..Made an error when posting.I bought the Dwarf Lamb Hass grafted from Bunnings , only been planted some 4 weeks ago, doing fine,I had the avo planted in a tyre on a mound but decided the mound wasnt high enough so raised the mound, cut the tyre off. can be ordered from Bunnings but next batch not available until autumn.My yard is just about pure clay hence the mound.Cheers

Time: 8th January 2016 4:45pm

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Markmelb says...
gordonh - did you know you can go back and edit your posts quite easily - esp since it takes a day or so to appear now days -- what tag did your Lamb Hass have as have seen some quite poor looking grafted LH & Shephards here for a pricey sum due to commercial growers wanting all stocks - too many trying to get in on the Avo bandwagon - wonder what they cut down to replant to Avo?

Very good raising your mound as it worked for me on clay - and dont use tyres due to chemicals - the clay beneath my avos have alot of nutrients and can drought proof alot of plants in my garden - learning to make it work for you is the key - cheers

Attached is a pic of my 2 year old Honey Gold Mango seedling in raised bed - I replaced the one that was here in spring as was showing better growth.
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Time: 11th January 2016 5:10pm

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gordonh says...
Markmelb.Thanks for the editing tips.This grafted Pruned Bowen was planted November 2014.Just normal size plant from nursery.I want a styled tree so,as you see in pic much pruning on the ground from me attacking yesterday.Now only 2.1mts but styled to make a nice canopy.The LHS of the tree is a graft Iv done, Peach Mango, doing OK.I only plant grafted stock.Just waiting for a Drawf Grafted Thai King from Daleys>
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Markmelb says...
Gordonh - also look at how to prune on Youtube after flowering - that is a must do - many people just do nothing and pruning helps for next years crop - commercial growers always prune.

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Scott 10 says...
Hi everyone, a couple of follow-up questions if ok:

1) Recently I have planted a few types of Poly mango seeds (honey gold and kp). Now I have heaps of seedlings and want to retain 1 of each to plant out.... Now I have a delimma as I have contradicting advice. Some suggest that the 'Smallest' seedling is the clone where some say that the 'Largest' seedling is the clone. Does anyone know the reality on this (and it may be impossible to tell for sure).

2) There is a couple of Mono seedlings that I also have and my question is that if I manage to graft these onto different rootstock (E.g. Graft the mono scion onto say KP rootstock) will these then grow and produce true? I again have differing advice here.

Thanks all.

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Pete7 says...
Scott 10 how long did your seeds take to produce sprouts after germination? After screwing up my first attempt at germination I'm on my second batch of Honey Gold seeds. My seeds have just turned green and are starting to open up. How long from now should it take to see a sprout?

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Time: 8th February 2016 2:54pm

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Scott 10 says...
Hi Pete, depending upon the temp really. Typically you should see roots within about 1 week and then shoots with leaves before 2 weeks in a warm environment.

A bunch that I planted just over 3 weeks ago are now around 8 inches tall.

Time: 9th February 2016 12:33pm

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Pete7 says...
Thanks for the info Scott. These are my seeds about two weeks after germination.

They turned green and started to open up during the first week of being in soil, then not much has happened in the last week. I've been keeping the pot covered in plastic wrap under my verandah away from direct sunlight. I put my first batch of seeds out in the sun after they got to this stage, which they responded to well until one really hot day where they all died.

Does anyone have any recommendations regarding the next step? I've been wondering if I should cover them with more seed raising mix now that they're opening up for more protection and moisture absorption. I've been reluctant to expose them to more direct sunlight after what happened the first time, but am now wondering if their progress has been so slow over the last week due to not enough sunlight.

The average temp here in Adelaide over the last week has been 30-35. Is it time to put them out in the sun? The hot day that killed my first batch of seeds was very hot (around 40). Those extremely hot days appear to be behind us now so am wondering if this should be the next step.

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Danny N1&#039;s says...
@Pete7

Mate im from Adelaide as well, and i successfully germinated two R2E2 mango seeds. I ended up with 8 R2E2 mango seedlings from 2 seeds lol amazing!. Also i successfully separated all 8 seedlings from the main seeds once they were big enough - this took surgical precision i tell ya!.
Now in regards to what you should do next - you should be planting those seeds into a small pot and cover them with some premium potting mix and nothing else as anything rich will burn them ( especially in our Adelaide heat) the seed should not be too deep maybe only enough potting mix to cover your seed and pat firm - another important thing is to plant your seed flat on it's side as the roots will keep penetrating into the soil while the other end of the seed will sprout a stem out of the soil and plenty of mulch over the seedling something like peatstraw or sugar cane mulch,this will help keep moisture in and heat.Keep your seedling under cover (not in the house) like a verandah or pergola away from full sun (filtered sun is best) and keep the soil moist at all times until it has sprouted leaves ( should be within 2-5 days)and once it is around 30-40cm tall before putting outside in full sun, even then bring under cover on hot days. I have a semi-enclosed perspec'd pergola which is prefect for mango development.

I also read on how painful it was for you to start these mango seeds - mate all i do is wrap any seed i want to grow in a damp paper towel and place into a clear lunchbox and close the lid and leave inside the house. mango seeds will generally sprout within 2 to 5 days using this method, i then pot the seedlings into a pot as discussed earlier.
I hope this helps you, happy to help if you have any more questions- happy gardening.

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Scott 10 says...
Hi Pete,
Typically after 2 weeks mine are usually a few inches high. The temps seem ok but I generally plant my seed laying on its side (not upright) so the roots are touching the soil.

I wouldn't really worry about sun hardening them yet either. As long as they have good light on the verandah they will do fine. They shouldn't really need extra sunlight to grow at this stage as they will still be getting their energy from the seed.

Also, did you start the germination process in the pot or wrapped in damp paper towel in a ziplock bag? You will have much better results with this method.

Time: 14th February 2016 10:23pm

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Pete7 says...
I found conflicting opinions online about whether to stand the seeds upright or lay them down. I went with the upright option, which I figured must be correct as I saw a recent post in Daleys blog showing them sewing them upright as well.

I've noticed though that on both batches of seeds there's roots coming out of the sides of the seed as well as the tap root from the end. I covered them with more seed raising mix yesterday, just enough to completely cover them. I wondered whether the rate of sprouting is so slow due to the side roots having to make their way down to the soil before they can start absorbing nutrients and water.

The germination process I used for both batches was the damp paper towel in a ziplock bag. Both times it worked great, but putting the first batch out in full sun with the top half exposed to direct sunlight was what killed them off I'm sure.

I'll write a quick update in a week or so with my progress.

Thanks again
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Mike Tr says...
Seeds should be planted in the orientation that is the same as they would lay on the ground. For mangoes removing the husk actually reduces viability unless closely managed for mould prevention.

Time: 16th February 2016 10:37am

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Pete7 says...
Danny N1.... where did you get your R2E2 seeds from? I've never seen them in the shops here.

8 of the 10 HG seeds have all sprouted now and have multiple seedlings about 2" tall. Just took a few warm days to get going.

Time: 7th March 2016 3:33pm

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Danny N1 says...
Hi Pete7,

You can find R2E2 mango's from your local Asian grocery store - they generally stock alot more tropical fruit than your conventional shop.

Time: 9th March 2016 11:28am

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Adrian4 says...
I have 2 trees I grew from seed, R2E2 and KP, they are both 5 years old and started fruiting last spring but most got burnt from the hot Adelaide sun so I will put shade cloth over the trees on hot days.
If anyone in Adelaide has a Honey Gold seedling I would like one if that's ok.
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Adrian says...
Hi Pete7, I live in Adelaide too and would like a HG seedling if you can spare one.

Time: 14th June 2016 5:35pm

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Pete7 says...
Hi Adrian,

My seedlings need to put on some new growth before I can separate the shoots, but if they survive winter then I'm sure I can spare one once they're bigger and can be separated.

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Time: 15th June 2016 11:29pm

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MNash1 says...
Hi all, Long time no see. I never did get a honey gold. But.
I do have a Ono mango that has been flowering the last month and is now packed with little marble size fruit.
I dont expect them to survive however has anyone else in the SEQ area experienced this?

Time: 26th June 2016 7:51pm

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eduardo nakahhara says...
i live in brazil and i wanna know if can i plant honey gold here?


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Mike Tr says...
You cant get honey gold in Brazil but there are a few KPs and they are similar enough.SP would be a good climate for them.

Time: 28th July 2016 11:25am

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Pete7 says...
Hi Adrian,

I successfully separated two Honey Gold seedlings last weekend so if you'd like one you can contact me on 0430296640.

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Time: 19th August 2016 3:14pm

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Adrian says...
Not honey gold but my Kensington seedling which is now 5 years old has set fruit here in Adelaide.
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Time: 27th November 2016 2:46pm

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Adrian says...
Planted a honey gold seed mid December and pic taken on Feb 2,2017.
Kept the best 2 as the other 2 were weaklings.

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Db says...
How is growth habit of honey gold mango tree? I planted some few HG seeds 3-4 weeks back and seedlings are already 6-8 inch tall now and on largish one roots are already coming out of its 150mm pot.. So to me looks HG has vigorous growth habit but it might be too early to tell.. To those who are growing it what is your experience? Has anyone got their HG seedling to fruiting stage?

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Adrian says...
Hi everyone this is my R2E2 I grew from seed bout 4 years ago and decided to graft a Honey Gold onto it and it has succeeded,at end of winter I will remove all R2E2 growth so all the energy will go into the honey gold graft once spring arrives, I took the graft wood off a honey gold tree that has already reached fruit bearing age which means in spring 2018 my graft will be much bigger and start producing fruit.
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Pete7 says...
Hi Adrian. Where'd you score the mature Honey Gold bud wood? I didn't think they'd been around in the shops long enough for anyone to have grown a seedling to fruiting stage.

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Adrian says...
Hi Pete, a friend put me onto a bloke who lives in Payneham who has a HG tree about 8 years old so I contacted him and went there to get some budwood, the tree looks good so am hoping it definitely is HG but won't be 100% sure until it fruits.

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Adrian says...
Update on my Honey Gold graft, today is Dec 7, 2017 and progress is good.

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Markmelb says...
As a point of interest my Honey Gold poly seedling has some fruit set - plant is end of its 3rd year stating its 4th.Pic2

Also got my KP to graft to its own seedling during our got spell at end of November or I think would have failed?Pic1

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Farouk says...
Hello All,

How is your Honey Gold Mango going ??

I planted mine late last Summer as I was on a look out for a beautiful looking mango & a really tasty one & HG sure ticked those boxes - thanks to Piñata Farms.


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Jan from Sydney says...
Dave I have always found the Honey Gold Mango seeds to be mono embryonic.

Time: 22nd August 2020 9:04am

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Jadelink says...
I have no idea how to tell the seeds apart, are the poly ones bigger or fatter?

Time: 26th August 2020 8:29pm

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MelbFruit says...
Can't see the honeygold mango pics, Markmelb. Sounds like you just went with the strongest shoots? How was the fruit?

Time: 14th April 2023 3:30pm

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Markmelb says...
My Honey Gold flowers ok but not setting fruit well - graft King Thai to a branch that also flowered but didn't hold fruit -always next year?

Time: 21st April 2023 12:34pm

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Jan from Sydney says...
Hi Markmelb your King Thai looks amazing....and hi to everyone else.
Update on my Honey Gold mango trees planted from seeds in 2017 and 2019. Photos attached. They are growing in raised garden beds as a big eucalyptus tree has roots that take all the water in my front yard (in Sydney). Both trees are progressing well. I am tip pinching to get them to branch out. They flower really well but I have only had one fruit so far....very nice taste....I guess it will just take more time. They got a bit of disease which I managed well by tipping just out of date milk on them. They have come back looking good so I am pleased with that. Time will tell.
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Edward3 says...
I also had just one fruit on my seed-grown Honeygold this year. It ripened mid April and was a good size. However, they are susceptible to fungal disease, which is a problem in the rainy weather we had this year. It's worth selecting more resistant varieties to grow in Sydney.

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Steely says...
Honey Gold from seed not quite two years old. Much more vigorous than I expected. faster and more dense than most of the KP' seedlings I planted. Chose the best tasting Honey Gold Mango and most vigorous of the seedling. As stated above Honey Gold are Poly and according to the WA Department of agriculture and Regional Development "The fertilised seedling is often weak and stunted and should be discarded. The other seedlings are clones of the mother tree"
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Danny333 says...
I’ve attached some pics of my 4 year old tree in a pot. There’s only a few mangoes on it this year as most dropped off when they were small during a heatwave. Got around 8 fruit last year ( it’s first fruiting year & they look and taste identical to a store bought fruit….. even better when they’re left to ripen naturally on the tree 🥭
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