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can yu help?

I would like to grow a jack fruit tree in my small back yard ( average backyard in sydney area).
what type suits for my backyard?
How tall they grow?
Thank yu
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Time: 21st May 2010 4:25pm

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BJ says...
Hi Letha, Gold Nugget is the one that is described as a dwarf Jak, but I've heard it still can get to 6m odd. There are anumber that you can prune and maintain under 15ft, and some that folks will tell you can be kept to 8ft !?

There is a good bit of information on various varieties an a PDF on this page:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg370

And this info may help with pruning:
Pruning

Young trees. Young jackfruit trees do not need pruning during their first year. Shoot tip pruning once or twice during spring and summer will force lateral bud break and make the tree more compact. Non-pruned trees usually develop a strong central leader. During the second season, trees should be pruned to the first lateral branch, which will slow upward growth and enhance spreading of the canopy. As trees mature, upright vigorous shoots should be removed and the inner canopy thinned out at the end of the harvest season.

Mature trees. Removal of selected upright, vigorously growing shoots is recommended. Removing the central leader to a weak lateral branch will slow upward growth and enhance lateral canopy development. Old flowering shoots should be removed after harvest.

For bearing trees, periodically remove (thin out) old limbs at the end of the harvest season to increase light penetration to the inner canopy. Tree height may be maintained at 8 to 14 feet by periodic selective pruning. Selective pruning may also be used to limit tree width.

Fruit thinning. The number of fruit per tree or major limb should be limited to 1 on young trees, as heavy fruit loads have been observed to result in limb decline or death and tree stunting. On mature trees, limiting the number of fruit per major limb may enhance the quality and size of remaining fruit.

Time: 21st May 2010 8:15pm

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madmaz says...
my fruit which was the size of an avo has gone black and fury like mould, whats wrong?

Time: 20th November 2010 6:49pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Letha,

You are pushing the climatic range with the jakfruit in Sydney. It will certainly grow but whether the fruit will ripen properly is another thing.

I have a 'black gold' jakfruit growing very well in Wollongong. Hasnt fruited yet but im happy with the tree so far. They shouldn't get too tall in Sydney compare to the tropics - perhaps 6m in 20 years time. You can always prune it.

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Time: 21st November 2010 7:19am

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Tommoz says...
I would like to taste test the jackfruit but never see it at the markets in Sydney.

Also, isn't there the possibility that a 27kg jackfruit falling onto a head below could be fatal?

Time: 24th January 2013 10:31pm

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lenn says...
No, not fatal as most jaks are either 26 or 28 Kg.

Time: 25th January 2013 8:08am

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BJ says...
I dont know about fatal. By the time they drop they are usually pretty soft and would explode on impact. Could still knock folks out, but the trick is not to plant in a high foot traffic area and to keep your eye out for falling jaks. Around here a jak would be eaten by bats before it fell from the tree anyways. If you had a double row of giants lining a footpath it could be a problem, but otherwise you have about the same chances of a light aircraft falling on your noggin as you do being killed by a falling jakfruit.

Bunya nuts/cones are a much bigger concern due to size/density, tree height (velocity) and people's ability to get right up close to the trees in the drop zone.

Time: 25th January 2013 9:18am

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Tommoz says...
Thanks BJ.

I am still hoping someone knows of any place I can buy fresh jackfruit in Sydney.

A guy said that the Juicy fruit gum flavour is from jackfruit, but I want to taste the real thing!

Time: 27th January 2013 3:29am

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Miranda says...
you can find fresh jackfruit in Cabramatta

Time: 27th January 2013 12:07pm

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Tommoz says...
I really like the taste of jackfruit and am thinking of doing the unthinkable: putting one in my front yard albeit on the side and well concealed.

What are the roots like? It will be near driveway.

Daleys only have 2 available: Brindsmead Special and Crisp seedling. FF has Crisp and Kwai Muk. Are any of these preferable for outer Sydney's climate?

If tree shape can vary, I'd prefer a more upright one, like in this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Jackfruit_in_tree.jpg

Time: 12th January 2014 7:08pm

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Kam says...
I live in Perth. My Jackfruit tree had 2 fruits but they had mould growing on them. They dropped off 2 weeks ago. Should I have sprayed the tree/fruits with antifungal chemical?. The tree may be about 5 years old.
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Time: 17th November 2014 3:20am

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Markmelb says...
Kam - what variety jackfruit gave you even those fruit - at least its flowering there on a similar latitude to Sydney - well done :)

Time: 17th November 2014 8:42am

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Waterfall says...
I'm no expert but have a jackfruit here in Sydney so have done a bit of reading on them. I believe the first flowers will be male which usually develop this rot and fall off. Later you will get female flowers and these are the ones which will form large fruit.

Time: 17th November 2014 8:48am

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Markmelb says...
Waterfall - I would love to know what your is also - is it grafted and what variety or is it a seedling or an unknown cutting like mine - trying to work out what would be the most cool hardy one for Melb - Thanks

Time: 17th November 2014 9:26am

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Waterfall says...
Mark I actually have 2 jackfruit trees, both rather small at the moment.

The first was a seedling purchased off ebay at the end of winter, I did ask the seller if he knew the variety but he did not. It was cheap and I was not sure if it would grow so I didn't want to spend much money on it. When it arrived it was only 15cm tall with a few small leaves which all dropped off soon after. It is now about the same height but has grown lots of new leaves and looks healthy.

The second I actually purchased on impulse at the Daleys nursery whilst visiting Byron Bay for a mates wedding. It was a seedling in the bargain bin for $6 as it had a slight imperfection at the base of the main trunk. This one is about half a meter tall with lots of leaves, quiet a compact looking tree with lots of branches already. It dropped only a few leaves and looks a bit yellow now but I expect it to come good once it has acclimatised to our cooler climate than Kyogle.
I chatted to the guy working there as they had a grafted latex free tree there for $80 but he suggested I just try my luck with the $6 seedling.

Ultimately I will only keep one as space is at a premium but for now I am just leaving them in pots until I decide which one.



Time: 17th November 2014 10:02am

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Hi Waterfall, so they had a grafted advanced jackfruit at the nursery?

Time: 17th November 2014 2:37pm

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Waterfall says...
Yes from memory it was a Brinsmead Special but this was back at the start of October.

Time: 17th November 2014 2:44pm

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Markmelb says...
Waterfall - do you thinks Brinsmead may do better in cooler climes due to latex free nature - I thinks so as latex cambium could be very temperature sensitive comared to no latex cambium -love to see so evidence of that thought???

Time: 17th November 2014 6:57pm

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Waterfall says...
I have no idea to be honest, my thoughts are that it would not be worth spending $80 on a grafted tree that may very well die in this climate.

I would think the best chance would be a very small seedling, get it used to the cold weather from a young age. Now is a good time to buy one as it gives them time to acclimatise before winter. That is my plan anyway.

Time: 17th November 2014 8:24pm

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Markmelb says...
I checked before and the grafted Jacks are only $39

Time: 17th November 2014 8:26pm

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Their advanced plants are $79, so an $80 jackfruit would be an advanced plant, I assume. They don't list all of their advanced plants on the website.

Time: 17th November 2014 10:27pm

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Kam says...
Hi Markmelb and Waterfall
My Jackfruit tree is an Artocarpus Heterophyllus and it says in the tag that it bears fruits from 3 to 8 years. It had not done well for the first 3 years because the hot sun in the summer in Perth just burnt the leaves and the new shoots. Last year I decided to try to erect a shedcloth over it. New shoots and leaves appeared. I have taken the shed off and the leaves are not looking too glossy. Shall I put the shed back on for the summer? I think I have to wait for next year to get some fruits. Last year I had 2 small fruits but they dropped when they were small.

I am wondering if someone can tell me whether a Shahtoot mulberry tree will grow into a large tree. I have recently bought a Shahtoot tree. Removed some buds from there and budded on to black mulberry cuttings in pots. I had 2 out of 4 and quite happy about it. Someone can tell me whether they are right for each other? I have a feeling that the black mulberry tree will be too vigorous for the Shahtoot?

Time: 18th November 2014 3:24am

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Markmelb says...
Kam - that is just the Latin name on tag for Jackfruit -- so its either a seedling or a marcotted / air layered branch like mine - see if you have a graft just above soil?
The jacks dont like heat either like 35c plus so she shade will help mines partly under a shade sail but still gets hit by afternoon sun but I bring inside every winter next to my coffee plant and a west facing window and put back out at start of November - can you put up a photo to see what it looks like - heres a pic I just took of mine - it lost about 400mm winter of 2013 but is branching nicely and may even throw som fruit this year as is 3rd summer for it - will only get a grafted if I can get a better survival siuation or earlier fruiting -- Also try spraying Yates Droughtshield on leaves before you get hot weather - works on my Avocados a treat - cheers
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Waterfall says...
I have shade cloth over my avocado so that it goes under the shade at 12pm. The other day it was 38 degrees at my place and part of the avocado was slightly exposed which had new leaves literally melted. I have since moved both my jackfruit trees under the shade cloth.

I have a few other tropicals which don't seem to mind the sun like rollinia, panama berry and my 3 mango trees.

Time: 18th November 2014 9:39am

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Kam says...
Hi Mark
Looks like I could have bought a seedling Jackfruit tree. I seem to remember I paid a fair bit for it. This means I have no idea what sort of Jacks I will be getting or if there is any. Some pictures of the tree. I put a broom there so you can see how tall it is. I put a lot of my pot plants under the tree for shelter when the shed cloth was up. Keeping the pot plants above ground prevent ants getting into them and stop my guinea pigs eating them.

Your Jackfruit tree looks good.

Time: 18th November 2014 2:05pm

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Kam says...
Hi Mark
I forgot the pictures earlier.

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Time: 18th November 2014 2:10pm

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Waterfall says...
I took a trip to Cabramatta yesterday to pick up some exotic fruits. We bought mangosteen, rambutan, pomelo, custard apple and jakfruit, also got myself a soursop smoothie (yum).

Now the jakfruit was available whole, half or just the part covering the seed which is what we bought as it cost much less. This was my first time tasting jakfruit and I can't say I was all that impressed. My wife tells me she has tasted much better but this has got me thinking, if I am going to put the time and energy into trying to grow one here then maybe I should find myself a highly regarded variety instead of the seedlings I already have.

Thoughts?



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denise1 says...
You can choose between crisp ones and soft moist ones. There is also one that is latex free which means the sticky white sap in the rind is not a problem. They can get to a very big tree, or some are smaller trees. You can keep them small by growing it in the confines of barrel or etc. Or encourage it to grow big and get piles of fruit to freeze for later.

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Waterfall says...
The one I ate was yellow in colour but the texture was firm but not crunchy, as I said we just bought the seed part with flesh surrounding it already separated from the fruit.

Time: 28th May 2015 3:55pm

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Markmelb says...
My Brindsmeade is handling the cool temps ok so far (supposed to be Latex free)

I got it basically because Daleys showed it handled frost from a video on its page and it doesnt get frost where it is (see my edibles)

- also find youself an Asian Grocery and get a big can of green jackfuit and make a Sri Lankan Jackfruit curry - Very yummy - good use for your curry leaves also - many recipes for it on the web.

Time: 28th May 2015 4:17pm

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Waterfall says...
I'm tempted to get on the Brindsmeade pre-order but I'm also just thinking of planting out my seedling and if when it fruits the taste is not good then have a go at topworking it with a better variety. There is not a lot of info on topworking jackfruit though, maybe its not often done.

Time: 28th May 2015 4:38pm

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Markmelb says...
I thought that too - BUT - How long have I got? Love to be the first to grow a Jackfruit unheated in Melb?
I have pics on my edibles of a 4 year old un named cutting that has Latex and is inside now till November as it didnt like 8c and started to die back in its first winter - now has lots of new growth but maybe flowers this year.
Ive seen them in Bali and they can fruit quite small but can also get very big too.
Brinsmead comes up fairly often and is a smaller tree as you can see in Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2puNfBViU

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Bangkok says...
It is possible to topwork jackfruit, approach grafting works the best for me.

Jackfruit in Thailand can be absolutely perfect fruit but the trick is to find the right vendor. Picked and ripened at the right moment gives very impressive fruit.

Myself i like the yellow crispy ones only and they can be extreme sweet. Most sold/best variety's are Thong prasert and Phet raa chaa, i don't like the mushy orange ones.

Time: 28th May 2015 5:38pm

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Markmelb says...
Bangkok - can you put up some photos of your top working - we dont have those varieties you have here - in fact any imported Jackfruit never has their name on the box they come in - not good marketing as we would like to know :)

Time: 28th May 2015 7:06pm

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Bangkok says...
I don't have pics from the jackfruit grafting but it is just common approach grafting where you connect 2 branches of 2 tree's together.

Most jackfruit tree's that i see for sale are grafted that way.

Amber jack should also be a very good variety, that one is in Australia for sure.

But which variety does best in Sydney might be another story since the climate there is not ultra tropical.

I can send seeds from the Thai jacks in a few months. My own jack still didn't bloom after 3 years. Soon i will graft pedalai onto my big jacktree. First attempts didn't work.



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Markmelb says...
Hi Bangkok - would still be nice to see a few photos of your Jack trees => where the grafts are? - size and shape?
Im finding here in Melbourne alot of Thai plants are very cold tolerant - even small round Thai eggplants can survive winter and the Nam Doc Mai mango also grows well for me - see my edibles page - In fact start adding photos to your page makes is much more interestng for everyone on this Forum to see what results are acheived beyond the seedling purchase :)

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sternus1 says...
Are you the same bangkok from TFF? That site sucks now, basically just runs on nepotism.

Time: 29th May 2015 4:08pm

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MIke T1 says...
It is the same Bangkok.

Time: 29th May 2015 9:14pm

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Bangkok says...
Yes i'm the same Bangkok and you are next to be banned Starling. You have to agree with the americans or they will ban you. Your negativ jaboticaba-talk doesn't suit them haha.

Well later i can send pics of my jack but i'm not in thailand at the moment. Also they haven't fruited yet for me.

But jackfruit can be really awesome, the trick is to get a ripe one. Some of them are totally black before peeled (fungus) and are very sweet. Still don't know how to see which one is supersweet and which one not.




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sternus1 says...
Yeah I figure as much too. Oh well. It's time I started paying for a VPN anyway. Did you actually get banned or did you just stop posting?

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Wouldn't be without a VPN these days. $5pm/$50py with unnoticeable latency, I originally got it for US Netflix. I think I'm with unblock-us, not 100% sure till they send me the bill next year.

Time: 30th May 2015 4:33pm

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Bangkok says...
Well i just got a ban but it's not public. Members still PM me and i can read that but can't reply. I can also still change the pic and text.

But why you guys need a VPN? https://hide.me/en/proxy
If you want to hide your ip then this site works for free. Now you can be a ?Dutchy or American as well.

But Jackfruit can start fruiting pretty small and in a container of 50-100 litre. I've seen them for sale many times with fruit.

My tree is about 4-5 metres and still didn't fruit yet. I prune it sometimes to get a nice shape.





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sternus1 says...
Why did they ban you anyway? I can't remember you doing anything ban worthy, that's for sure. All you did was point out that mahachanook mango is originally from Thailand.

Time: 31st May 2015 8:42am

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Bangkok says...
Yup mahachanok comes from Thailand but they want to sell it as "the new variety from Florida" haha. Doesn't that say it all? And they even put that on their leafylife website!

And on top of that i still doubt if they have the real mahachanok or just a seedling of it.
Some of their mahachanoks don't smell very strong, then it's not the same as we have in Thailand which has a very strong scent.

My thai family have a huge old mahachanok in their garden. I didn't know that for more then 10 years because they never told me about it and even my wife didn't know that. That's how special that mango is to them.

The main thing i learned from TFF is that the Springer show wasn't made with actors like we always thought here on this side of the ocean.














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Diane says...
I now understand the selective pruning of my jackfruit but am puzzled as to when to prune. My tree is fruiting as well as still blooming now (Oct,2015) with some semi-grown fruit. I also need to know whether the saw needs to be oiled to defend against the latex

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anusha says...
how about the area that is pruned, should we cover it or will there be any decay if left opened.

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410038286 says...
My father used to dry the Jackfruit using dehydrator for the use in unavailable season.
He is doing lot of research in India on Jackfruit
He found the 16 different dishes from Jackfruit
Please let me know if you need further info


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Jose Luis says...
We live in Sydney and have a jackfruit tree. I do not know the variety but told it produces crunchy fruit rather than the soft variety. Unfortunately our tree does produce fruit each year but when winter comes along we get rot that sets in from the top of the fruit. We had about six large fruit that suffered the same fate last winter with the largest the size of a basketball albeit not round. It would have been at least 4 kilos. The tree is about 10-12 years old and about 3-4 metres tall.

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Markmelb says...
Jose - can you put up a photo of your Jack tree - maybe some of fruit too with that rot you spoke of? Thanks.

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Jose Luis says...
Waterfall....where in Sydney are you.
We are at Dundas.
Do any of your fruit reach maturity?
Our get rather large just before winter and then develop rot right at the top of the fruit.
Our tree is rather large and is developing fruit at the moment.

Time: 3rd February 2016 10:52am

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David says...
Hi all very excited today, just picked my first home grown Jackfruit, the cultivar is Golden nugget. Tree is marcot, and been in the ground approx. 7yr?. Pics and weight will follow. Yee ha.

Time: 11th March 2017 5:21pm

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ivepeters says...
Glad for you, the start of the payoff after so much time and effort.

Time: 12th March 2017 4:22pm

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David says...
Pity we don't have smellavision, the odour is devine.
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Time: 12th March 2017 6:52pm

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Bangkok says...
Did they already smell when you picked them?

Mine don't smell yet and are still pretty hard so i don't dare to pick them.

Yours still has the spines, mine have smoothened spines now...it's one of the signs to know if they are ripe i read.

On the market i see them having brown/black spots before they are being peeled/sold. Do we have to wait untill that happens or did they let them get brown after picking?

The shop with the brown ones has the best jackfruit of Bangkok, they taste much better than from other vendors. I still don't know what their trick is but i grow the same variety so i guess mine also need big brown spots before i open them.

Time: 13th March 2017 2:19pm

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simon2609 says...
Jackfruit is available seasonally in Flemington Markets
You have to be careful a lot of traders will try and pass off a fruit similar to jackfruit there is an Indonesian name for this fruit, my wife cannot spell it either.
The spikes are not as deep as true jackfruit and has a slightly different shape. This fruit is to be ripe before being eaten and is not suitable for cooking, it is very woody.
My Balinese wife brought some last Saturday 6 May. She made a beautiful pork, jackfruit soup.

Time: 14th May 2017 11:40am

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Colinas says...
On Saturday, we found the first edible jackfruit from our five-year-old tree. It had fallen from the tree, and had two possum divots, but when cut open, it was sunshine-yellow, ripe and delicious.

Last year, we had many fruit on the tree, but these failed to ripen for a number of reasons.

And we were told that you cannot grow jackfruit in Sydney!

You read about it on our blog
www.colinas.id.au
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Time: 22nd May 2017 4:00pm

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Waterfall says...
That is great to know Colinas, we have 3 jackfruit trees in Sydney too and I hope we can get some fruit when they grow a little larger.

Time: 23rd May 2017 3:07pm

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denise1 says...
It is normal for the first time of flowering that the flowers are probably male and fall off.

Time: 29th May 2017 6:39am

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Markmelb says...
Colinas - very good Blog page - how did you set that up? Is it a personal website address? What CV is your Jack? Or is it a Seedling? Nice to see how your mangos are going - Im trying a few Monos and have a nice looking Honey Gold and Keitt - this Keitt looks nicer than my grafted one. I have a nice fruit on Nam Doc im leaving on till it ripens. Still waiting for my KPs to ripen on tree also. I picked one with a split near stem on weekend to ripen.

Time: 29th May 2017 9:53am

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Colinas says...
Hi Markmelb

I thought my mangoes ripened late in the season. Yours are very late. Congratulations on your achievement so far south! When you get them, you will appreciate them, because there are none in the shops!

When your mangoes start to colour, pick them and place them in your rice container, if you have one. We have a rather large rice container in the kitchen: the rice helps to ripen the fruit, according to my partner.

My two jackfruit trees are seedlings, fruit purchased in Cabramatta, and are different varieties, judging by the flowering times.

One of my children, IT-employed, helped me to establish the blog. It includes tale from our Malaysia travels, gardening experiences and the occasional home-cook recipe. It is open to the public.

Thank you for your encouraging comments...

Time: 30th May 2017 12:07pm

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davidryan says...
yes ture

Time: 17th November 2017 6:45pm

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Blackgold says...
Hi Rich
Just saw your old post in Daleys forum.
I see you have a Blackgold planted in Wollongong.
May I ask how the tree is growing and has it had fruit yet?

I'm also after a Blackgold but Daley does not sell them at the moment as they can't source graft wood.
Hope to hear from you.

Regards
Roger Ning

Time: 28th January 2019 1:40am

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Jackfruit Soft or Crunchy leaf identifiers? says...
I had two trays of soft and crunchy jackfruit seeds which are now 30 cm high,I asked my daughter to repot them as had left it late and was going o'seas for a month and as the wet season still haddnt really started the seedling trays was drying out and did not want to loose
The seedlings. Im back home now and she has done a great job except now they are all mixed up is there any way I will be able to identify properly and
reclassify/label the soft from the crunchy seedlings

Time: 5th May 2019 7:23am

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Blackgold says...
Hi Rich
I don't know how to tell them apart.
Did you have 2 different varieties of Jack fruit seeds?or are the seeds from the same tree.
Are the seeds from your Blackgold tree?
I have bought 2 grafted jakfruit trees from Daleys..Yullatan which are suppositly cold tolerant.

I'm growing seeds as rootstock to try and graft the 2 varieties.
How big is your tree now?
Cheers for now.
Roger

Time: 5th May 2019 9:13pm

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