Looking for the Key lime (Citrus aurantifolia) (forum)
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The seeded Key lime species
with the more intense flavour
not the hardier Tahitian lime seed hybrid
i remember buying these in the store years ago and growing lime trees from seed. (polyembyonic seed)
But these days i never see them. Only the sterile Tahitian lime.
can anyone assist me?
Time: 13th February 2009 3:35pm
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Adam says...
They can be found for sale relatively easily in Australia, mostly sold under the name of "West Indian Lime". Key/Mexican/West Indian lime are all the same thing.
Time: 14th February 2009 6:49am
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Rev says...
i saw one in bunnings yesterday i think
under the PBR trademark of "Sublime"
the leaves were not like the Tahitian lime and semlled like the real deal
but i didnt have the $30 they want
nor am i sure if i want to pay that for a cutting grown Citrus
Normally i pay less than half that for budded citrus on hardy root stocks
Time: 18th February 2009 11:52am
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Adam says...
"Subline" is a lime nursery, not sure that they sell West Indian Limes though, so most likely a Tahitian.
Time: 18th February 2009 12:55pm
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rev says...
def a different leaf
rough texture
uneven leaf margin
distinct oil dots
not like any tahitian lime i know
i must take a photo next time i go there
Time: 20th March 2009 10:26am
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Julie says...
I have a wonderful Tahitian lime - several years old now. I bought another (I thought) to grow in a bag to take with me when I move, and it turned out to be another variety. Small round fruit, very acid, quite prolific.
But I don't really like it, I prefer the taste of the Tahitian. So do my neighbours, who receive lots of my fruit. So is the second one a West Indian/Mexican/Key lime? If you were in WA you would be welcome to it Rev, but you are a bit far away!
Just had a look at it - it doesn't sound like your description. So what on earth have I got?
Time: 22nd March 2009 6:00pm
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Adam says...
West Indian, Key, Mexican looks like this
http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/mexican.html
Time: 23rd March 2009 10:59am
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Julie says...
Thanks Adam, that's the one I have. I don't remember now what the label said - people are really confused about limes.
Time: 23rd March 2009 7:29pm
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Adam says...
Usually these small acid limes are considered superior to the Tahitian lime (which is a West Indian/Mexican lime hybrid), but horses for courses I guess.
If you don't like the lime that much fresh, you can salt them like a preserved lemon, which is what they are used for in some parts of Morocco.
Time: 24th March 2009 11:12am
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Rev says...
Ok then
well that picture has me stumped what this 'sublime' is
Its a PBR variety registered in ipaustralia as 'sublime'/ Citrus aurantifolia
but it sure doesnt look like that
although i did see some 'odd' limes at a stall run by a local phillipina that i bough a few of. they were yellow so fully ripe, and lightly ribbed rurface like those. seedy. and seemingly identical to the ones on the picture Adam supplied. Flavour was ok,a bit sour - maybe because they were fully or over ripe. The ones ive had in the past that were the best were lime green on the inside, small seedy and with a very strong limey tang. Like the tahitian but more pungent.
i planted the pips from this phillipine lime anyway.
Time: 31st March 2009 9:22am
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Julie says...
Rev, would you like some seed from mine when it fruits? I find it too acid, more than the Tahitian, but as someone said, horses for courses.
Let me know through the forum. They have fruit now, but it is still green.
Time: 31st March 2009 8:49pm
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Adam says...
Mexican/West Indian/ Key limes have low genetic diversity, so are pretty much the same the world over. They fall off the tree when ripe and tend not to have as acid, although more juicy at this stage. Another way to differentiate them from the Tahitian lime is that they have a much more fine grained flesh.
I have another lime sold as "Australian Lime", which has nothing to do with the native limes (I think this was released in the 1980's). Not sure what this is exactly, it could be a Tahitian hybrid by the look of it. The fruit are smaller and rounder then the Tahitian, bigger then the West Indian limes and is less acidic then either.
Time: 1st April 2009 10:59am
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Rev says...
Thanks Adam
and yes please Julie. If possible a whole fruit because id like to investigate its skin,form and texture.
my email is reville1@gmail.com
There is another citrus up here used as a marinades, or drinks and sometimes like a lime for flavour - although the flavour is different.
Its a Kalamansi, some type of citrofortunella hybrid.
http://recipes.wikia.com/wiki/Calamansis
I have planted many of these from seed and they came up easily and uniformly. Its good to have a tropical cumquat as i think the northern species need chilling.
Theres so much untapped diversity of flavour in the smaller and more wild of the citrus.
Its fun to learn and play with it!
Time: 8th April 2009 12:46pm
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Adam says...
The vast majority of "Cumquats" sold in Australia are actually Calamanis/Calamondin. It is even marketed as the "Australian Cumquat" now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamondin
However, the fruit produced from this tree in Melbourne are quite different to the fruit I have had in Malaysia. Often this is the case with citrus grown in different tropical v temperate climates, but it would be interesting to know if they were other differences as this tree was probably introduced into Australia in the 19th century.
I have another similar citrus, sold in Australia as an "Indonesian lime", which is likely to be a Djerook Leemo/Djeruk limau.
Time: 8th April 2009 4:30pm
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Julie says...
OK Rev, will do. It is a very small lime, but I guess you know what it looks like!
Time: 9th April 2009 9:05pm
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Rev says...
Thanks Julie
wont be necessary now
that phillipine lime turns out to be C aurantifolia alright
i can tell straight away as the seeds come up.
the leaf margins, the distinct oil glands, the polyembryonic seeds.
thanks for the offer though
Ive only seen Calamansi in Brunei before. They were almost the same but maybe a touch smaller than the ones we have here. same tang though
ive only ever grown Fortunella when i was down south , cultivars Meiwa - Marumi, and Nagami. Both are excellent. Meiwa was my favourite, skin and all off the tree, or else made into either a brandy preserve, or a Shochu like japanese liquer - sugar alcohol fruit aged several months.
These Calamansi lack the better milder flavour but they make an ok susbtitute.
Their juice is very good as part of a marinade for Pork. Or they can be crushed in a glass to extract the juice and skin oils, add raw sugar syrup, Lots of ice and a dash of White rum. A variation on a brazilian caipirinha.
so they are someway tween a lime and a cumquat in usage. The ones i have are very similar to the picture labelled phullipine calamnsi on the above linked wikipage
Time: 15th April 2009 4:56pm
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Adam says...
The Calamansi/Calamondin is pretty tough, grows well in Melbourne. You can even use them to make a hedge. The main issue I have with mine is that it produces huge amounts of fruit and this tends to be a drain on the tree, especially with the watering restrictions. So all the fruit is being removed this year as it forms.
Time: 15th April 2009 8:56pm
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Lilian says...
Hi adam,
I am looking for calamansi limes. Could you tell me where I can source the plant from in Melbourne?
Time: 3rd August 2009 1:37pm
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culebra says...
i would also be interested in the answer to the question Lilian asked you Adam.
Time: 4th August 2009 9:54pm
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Adam says...
The vast majority of "Kumquats" sold in Australia are Calamansi/Calamondin. In Melbourne they are in most nurseries and are are often sold under the trade name of "Australian Cumquat".
Time: 5th August 2009 2:40pm
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culebra says...
I see. wiki suggests that the calamansi is a mandarin x cumquat. They are pretty common, i see a variegated form quite regularly (or could be a true cumquat).
Time: 5th August 2009 6:31pm
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Lilian says...
Thanks Adam.
There is a difference in flavour of a true kumquat compared to the calamansi lime though... How can I tell if it is one or the other?
Time: 8th August 2009 2:00pm
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Rev says...
a True Kumquat like "Nagami" or my preferred , "Meiwa"
is better tasting
a few things
1. softer edible skin
2. more elongated
3. smaller than kalamansi
4. seem less acid
The kalamansi i have are great but the arent the same at all in flavour as kumquat.
good but not the same, according to my taste - be your own judge
i bought my meiwa through daleys and was very happy with it
Time: 8th August 2009 8:06pm
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Violet_Cactus says...
By the way, Engalls' Nursery sells Key Limes (Citrus aurantifolia)
Time: 8th February 2010 11:01pm
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Barbara says...
I have just purchased a citrus aurantifolia sublime tree from Bunnings. I am confused as to growing conditions. The sublime website says the lime tree is frost tolerant, yet all the other websites claim limes are frost tender. I am now stuck as to where to plant it. Any tips?
Time: 5th June 2010 9:29pm
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Barbara,
I have my tropical West Indian lime tree( key lime) it has been in my garden for the last 10 years and doing very well with lots of fruits.
Good luck to yours.
Time: 6th June 2010 8:51am
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Michael says...
Hi All,
The below website is the most informative source on Citrus descriptions and varieties.
http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/home.html
Time: 6th June 2010 9:11am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Thank for the link. Very useful indeed. I have just found out the true name of my pumelo variety.
Time: 6th June 2010 9:27am
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Michael says...
Hi Nguyet ,
So which variety do you have ?
Time: 6th June 2010 5:04pm
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
I have Citrus maxima
Time: 6th June 2010 5:27pm
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John Mc says...
Hey Rev,
I have a spare "Sublime" rooted cutting if you still wanted one.
Time: 6th June 2010 7:46pm
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Michael says...
Hi Nguyet ,
The one you have is the type I like with not too much juice . I was told that in NSW/VIC there is not enough heat to fully ripen pumelos so it's always bitter. Let me know how your pumelo turns out .
Time: 6th June 2010 8:53pm
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rev says...
sounds great john
please`email me
reville1@gmail.com
i can offer you
if tropical - cacao or bilimbi
if subtropical - coffee mundo nova,
talk to you soon
Time: 7th June 2010 12:38am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,
Some of my pomelo fruits dropped on the ground. Normally this time of the year they have bitter after taste so I almost ignore them until I tested one fruit. I found they are perfectly to eat now. Sweet and no bitter after taste at all so it may be the Rain we have had recently that make the fruit juicy and sweet.
The only diffrent compare to the last 10 years is lots of rain this year, mulch heavily so it may be the answer to the bitterness problem not the cold???.
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Time: 18th June 2010 7:58pm
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Rev says...
i had the most delicious pomelo ever a few weeks ago.
Ive been waiting for the moment for a long time! i keep buying pomelos from the local markets and they are ok - better than supermarket citrus which are just inedible
but this was superlative
the skin was yellow, with a bronze/orange tint - lol like a spray tan :D
the flesh was red
and it was SO good
does anyone know its name? i will go back to the Thai grocer and beg for more!
i planted the seeds and they are starting to come up.
Pomelos are not apomictic, but sounds like they come fairly true to type if self pollinated
Time: 22nd June 2010 12:53am
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Rev says...
if anyone wants Calamansi of the type up here, just say so and i can organise to ship them down to you in season. i get them at local markets from a phillipino grower.
Time: 22nd June 2010 12:55am
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Rev says...
from description
the one i ate seems like a thong dee
but maybe a non listed variety
Time: 22nd June 2010 1:46am
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SAW says...
I have just returned from Manila and would love to grow my own Calamansi how do I do this and how much?
Time: 22nd October 2010 4:58pm
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Wendy says...
If anyone knows where I can get hold of seed/trees for the calamansi- Philippine small green lime I would love to hear- we are on the search for them in South Australia
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sublime citris aurantifilia says...
for sale at big w $16.00
patrio lime that can be also grownn in
the garden
Time: 1st April 2011 11:40am
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sublime citris aurantifilia says...
for sale at big w $16.00
patrio lime that can be also grownn in
the garden
Time: 1st April 2011 11:48am
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sublime citris aurantifilia says...
for sale at big w $16.00
patrio lime that can be also grownn in
the garden
Time: 1st April 2011 11:49am
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Salsta says...
I'm looking to buy a key lime/West Indian lime tree and would love to find out where to get one, as I've been searching the web and getting nowhere fast.
I look forward to any replies.
Time: 10th February 2012 5:43pm
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j says...
saltsa any bunnings in victoria can order them in for you. i got my two west indian limes from a bunnings in nunawading but they all get them from the same wholesaler.
Time: 11th February 2012 5:25pm
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Salsta says...
Thanks very much J. Cheers!
Time: 15th February 2012 11:52am
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Fruit Lover says...
Hi Guys,
Salsta... this web site sells lots of rare eddibles / fruit trees mail order to your door. They have lots of rare citrus grafted, cutting grown or seedlings from time to time as they become available. I bought a west Indian Lime from them for $24.95. Hope this helps
Web address and email below:
www.forever-seeds.com
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info@forever-seeds.com
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Ilijas says...
Bunnings have had a few furfies sold to them wholesale.
"Sublime" is labelled as Citrus aurantifolia (which is the Key/Mexican/West Indian Lime) but it is in fact nothing of the sort.
A quick crush of a small bit of leaf will give it away that it's a dwarf form of the Tahitian lime.
If you see anything labelled as "West Indian Lime" then that's the true Citrus aurantifolia.
Time: 2nd April 2012 6:49pm
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Mike says...
llijas,my WI lime passed away recently after a happy and productive life but it was always the poor cousin of my tahitians.I saw sublimes in Big W and was tempted to get a replacement for my WI.It sure looked like a less thorny WI to me in growth habit to me rather than a tahitian.Friend are getting sick of me thrusting bags of limes at them when they visit so I didn't get it.I might have a closer look next time because there are many distinctive characteristics of both.
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Mike says...
llijas,my WI lime passed away recently after a happy and productive life but it was always the poor cousin of my tahitians.I saw sublimes in Big W and was tempted to get a replacement for my WI.It sure looked like a less thorny WI to me in growth habit to me rather than a tahitian.Friend are getting sick of me thrusting bags of limes at them when they visit so I didn't get it.I might have a closer look next time because there are many distinctive characteristics of both.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Mike,
I love your limes and I use lots of them for fish sauce. It is a beautiful combination especially the kaffir lime and very juicy and thin skin too. the shop bought ones sometimes not quite good.
Time: 2nd April 2012 7:24pm
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Ilijas says...
I'm so jealous, Mike!
I adore the flavour of WI limes, to me they are the quintessential of the limes.
I'm hoping that, with enough winter protection, I'll be able to get some fruits eventually with the potted specimen I've got here in Melbourne.
At the moment it's about 60cm tall, and looking very healthy.
Here's hoping.
Time: 3rd April 2012 12:15am
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amanda says...
What happens to the WI Lime in cold weather? (just curious..)
It can get down to 2 - 6 oC o/night here in winter - my tree is ok with this (a lot colder in Melb winter tho?)
They are such a heavy bearing tree...I am same as you Mike..end up giving them away - or I freeze the juice.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Mine suffered stress and dropped all the fruits in the first few years in winter in Melbourne. It is used to the weather now.
Time: 3rd April 2012 9:55am
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amanda says...
Ah...that's interesting Jujube :) I suspect that they are much tougher than they are given credit for...especially once established.
I want to grow another one down in Bunbury (no frost) so thanks for that information... :)
Time: 3rd April 2012 6:53pm
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Ilijas says...
Do you think they'd be ok with a bit of winter protection for the first two-three years?
Something like one of those plastic mini greenhouses from Bunnings up against a sunny wall of the house during winter months?
Time: 4th April 2012 5:49pm
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micarle says...
I live in the blue mtns and i have had no trouble with my plant!! No protection needed
Time: 4th April 2012 6:13pm
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Ilijas says...
Wow! It gets very frosty in the Blue Mountains!
Ok, this gives me a *lot* of hope then.
Time: 4th April 2012 8:10pm
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micarle says...
I don't live in the upper Blue mtns so not as frosty as u think but still a few light one's in winter.
Time: 5th April 2012 5:59am
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Ilijas says...
Same with where I am in the outer burbs of Melbourne. But, where there's a north-facing wall there's warmth, so hopefully I can plonk it up with some winter protection against a great big sunny wall of my house and it will not drop too many leaves.
I am so so so intensely looking forward to the fruits!
Time: 6th April 2012 1:36pm
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Rael says...
I am trying to get 2 trees into my garden. #1 - West Indian Lime and #2 a coffee tree. I am in Noosaville on Sunshine Coast Qld. from Hawaii and always had these around me - I miss them and would like and help to know where, how to obtain these. I have tried to get a kumquat growing but I just cannot get the little critter to grow. Any advice gratefully appreciated.
Time: 9th November 2012 8:01am
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BJ says...
Hi Rael, Cedar Creek Nursery usually stocks very nice WI Lime to Bunnings and otehr places. They are at Belli Park, near Eumundi, so give them a call to see if they have stocked any otehr retail nurseries locally. Coffee plants are usually available from just about anywhere that plants are sold.
Time: 9th November 2012 9:24am
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Scotchmist says...
I recently contacted the company 'Touch of Class Plants' who are the producers of the lime being sold as 'Sublime' as I've gotten conflicting information as to the variety of lime & wanted it cleared up for me once and for all. Here is their reply.... "we're not sure why you were informed that it was a Tahitian Lime as this is incorrect.
Whoever replied to your initial message should have told you that Sublime is a Citrus aurantifolia. We're sorry if this has caused any confusion and please do not hesitate to contact us again if you have any questions.
Here is the link to our site if you have not already seen it: http://www.touchofclassplants.com.au/product-detail/?id=68 - Thanks.
Product Detail
www.touchofclassplants.com.au"
So there you go.. It's a West Indian/Key Lime.
Time: 11th January 2014 12:44pm
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Chris says...
It is a cutting, not grafted so should be grown in a pot.
Time: 11th January 2014 12:54pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
I have only seen a few Sublimefruit, those were seedless. Anybody got seed in a Sublime??
Time: 11th January 2014 7:25pm
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Markmelb says...
Ive had a Sublime 4 years now and is 7ft tall in a 430mm pot (had to tie it in with string 2 years ago)- the limes are great when u get them maybe 4 or 5 last 2 years - needs alot of iron to keep it green - flowers profusely in Nov but no fruit set - this time gave some potash in 2 smaller doses and is covered in flowers again so hoping for alot of limes this year - I also picked up a really good KEY LIME at Gardenworld and is holdin one and in flower and very green too which is a good sign as I grow quite a few citrus in pots I even have fruit this year on a Carters Red Pommello and a Buddhas Hand holding fruit and many more flowers forming - hope this has been helpful - Mark
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Time: 11th January 2014 8:09pm
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VF says...
Jakfruit e., if only you put your post in about a month ago! Could have sent you a few seeds - I had 4 fruit on my young Sublime plant, with one fully formed seed in each. Plant is just about to flower so will be a while before more fruit. If I remember, I'll post when I have some.
Time: 11th January 2014 11:56pm
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gimme says...
Sublime is a less thorny and less seedy West Indian lime. I grew a sublime in a pot to 1.5m it was good size flowered heaps but was never productive.
This photo is a comparison is from the PBR website
Mark your key lime looks so healthy
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Time: 12th January 2014 8:28pm
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Brain says...
I am not a big fan of sublime. I have the same problem as you gimme, the plant flowers profusely but does not hold fruit.
Also, it does not like the dry. I would recommend getting the west indian lime as a seedling or a grafted variety instead.
Time: 13th January 2014 2:08pm
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Mike Tr says...
C.aurantifolia originated in SE Asia yet can be called mexican or key (sail away to key largo) lime and comes in many forms.They are the parent of the tahitian ( came from US not tahiti)which mat be half lemon.
They set loads of fruit in thr tropics but can be less productive outside the tropics.They are seeds,stronger flavoured,more spikey,shorter lived and more seasonal than tahitians.
Sublime is just one form and there are many different lines.
Time: 13th January 2014 3:20pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
The photo from the PBR website, well their C.aurantifolia specimen must be a Calamondin if i'm not mistaken????
Looking at Sublime trees i've seen, i would have guessed it was an off type/bud sport Tahiti Lime, maybe a diploid even ?
Yes Mike, many versions of Key/West Indian Lime, but Sublime looks a touch different to me, slightly more than usual seedling variation.
Time: 13th January 2014 8:49pm
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Mike Tr says...
Sublime is supposed to be just a PBR aurantifolia and I presume a seedling rather than a budsport. Key lime may in fact be a hybrid line variety that has thicker skin and various other differences.The ones you typically see in SE Asia have smaller, seedier,and stronger flavoured fruit on a more spikey tree.
Time: 13th January 2014 9:10pm
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Markmelb says...
I shall inform you all how my 4 year old sublime performs this year compared to my new West Indian Lime which is a couple years behind the former
Time: 13th January 2014 11:42pm
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Scotchmist says...
Here's a pic of my 'Sublime' tree. I bought it around two years ago. First year it flowered and all the fruits fell off. This year (2nd year) the majority of flowers fell off again but two fruits seem to be staying put and there's a second flush of flowers coming on too. I give it a mix of citrus fert, potash and iron chelate. It's looking a bit weary at the moment in the pic due the the heatwave over the past few days. Hoping these two fruit stay on so I can finally taste a West Indian lime
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Time: 16th January 2014 5:15pm
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Brain says...
Scotchmist, your fruits looks great. I think you stand a good chance if you keep the water up and constant i.e. never let the plant dry out too much. Let us know how the fruit taste when it is ready.
Time: 16th January 2014 6:10pm
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JeffDR says...
Where in Melbourne can Key/West Indian/Mexican limes be found?
Time: 17th February 2014 7:08pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Fruit should be found at many Asian grocery, look for smaller yellow limes.
Will grow true from seed.
Trees should also be avail, occasionally at Bunnings, or phone around other nurseries.
Time: 17th February 2014 11:58pm
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fruitfull says...
Bunnings to expensive, the same size Citrus Sublime @ Aldi $17.99 this Saturday
Time: 25th February 2014 8:20pm
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Boris Spasky says...
17.99 for cutting citrus also a rip off.
Easy for propagators, but without exception a very poor choice, even if only grown in a pot.
Time: 25th February 2014 9:34pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
I would be getting a West Indian lime before a Sublime. WI lime will get bigger much faster + produce more fruit.
Time: 26th February 2014 7:02am
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Madsen1 says...
Hi
I"e;m looking for some key lime seeds (i've looked everywhere but can't seem to find them!).
I'd like to try growing one from seed as opposed to buying one.
If anyone is interested in trading seeds, i have lots of calamondin seeds that i can trade from my tree!
Time: 16th April 2019 6:22pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Key Lime is the same as West Indian Lime.
You should be able to find fruit with seed, in many of the asian groceries in Sydney, or main fruit market. Just make sure you get the smaller yellow limes with seed, not the larger seedless Tahiti Limes.
Time: 18th April 2019 9:12pm
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Allan citrus says...
I only see seedless Tahitian lime in Sydney all over Flemington markets.
Time: 29th February 2020 11:59pm
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