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sylerion starts with ...
Hi, could anyone kindly point me in the right direction to buy one?

Thanks in advance =)

Time: 5th May 2009 11:27pm

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Tibor says...
Daleys by Maiol order

Time: 6th May 2009 10:47am

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Kath says...
WA quarantine laws won't allow you to buy loquats from over East-the nursery I wrote about a couple of days ago has a huge loquat in stock-see 'Daley's plants in Perth' Not sure of the price as it was massive but if you ring them they may have smaller ones.

Time: 6th May 2009 11:08am

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sylerion says...
thanks Kath, will give them a ring =)

Time: 7th May 2009 6:10pm

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Kath says...
Hi sylerion-also, try the quokka-there were a few in Thursday's edition under 'fruit trees' & also 'loquats'
good luck

Time: 9th May 2009 12:43pm

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amanda says...
I got my loquat from Bunnings 2 yrs ago("Enormity" - grafted) apparently there was a massive failure of the grafting stock last year - so none at present! bummer - I want "champagne" and the "nagasakinawase" (or watever its called!?)Let me know how u go. I am going to try growing my enormity from seeds this year and see what happens.

Time: 10th May 2009 8:31pm

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kert says...
I want Champaigne also but have never seen it for sale . Enormity is better known as "Atrocity" for its poor taste(tell me if I am wrong). Nagassakiwase is widely available ,good but not much better than your average seedling.alas.

Time: 11th May 2009 3:27pm

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amanda says...
my enormity is yum! maybe cos it's a bit hotter here during the ripening?

Time: 12th May 2009 9:29pm

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tecko says...
Hi Sylerion. At the Canningvale Sunday Market today (31st May), at least 2 stalls are selling the loquat tree (many available). One stall was charging $4.50, and the other $5.

Time: 31st May 2009 4:25pm

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amanda says...
Hi Tecko - I don't suppose the loquats at the markets are grafted by any chance? (prob not for that price..?) also do you know if they can be grown from cuttings at all?

Time: 31st May 2009 8:57pm

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tecko says...
Hi, Amanda. No, I don't think they are grafted. More likely they're grown from seeds, as I did not see any "bulge" on the stem of the plant. Sorry, I'm not sure if they can be grown from cuttings. Perhaps, someone else more knowledgeable can enlighten us.

Time: 31st May 2009 9:24pm

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amanda says...
Hi Karnup Kath! that nursery u mentioned above - do they actually stock the plants or just import them for u? I am finally able to get to Perth for a shopping trip!! yay.
got the chook book 2 - thanks for the tip!

Time: 1st June 2009 11:50am

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Julie says...
tecko, they probably will grow from cuttings, but are usually grafted onto quince stock to keep the size of the tree manageable.
The ones at Canning Vale were probably grown from seed.
I have grown quince from seed so I can graft a large-fruited loquat onto it.Still not sure when to do this, as loquats don't have a dormant phase.



Time: 1st June 2009 6:28pm

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amanda says...
hey julie - can u let me know how u go with that please? If I can't pick up something decent in Perth then I was going to have a go - but I have never grafted b4 - always a first time! and I do so love loquats...I think they would do well in the Biolytix zone.

Time: 1st June 2009 10:46pm

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Kath says...
Amanda,re the nursery you asked about-give them a ring & see what they have in stock at the moment-they were getting a new order when I went there-see-Daley's plants in Perth for more info.

Time: 1st June 2009 10:50pm

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amanda says...
hey again julie - i have lots of room so is the grafting just a matter of the size?
Thanks again Kath - 1st child-free trip 2 perth in years - I must b a dag cos'i just want to go plant shopping :?

Time: 1st June 2009 11:20pm

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Julie says...
I think it is height rather than width. Most loquats grow so tall you have no hope of reaching the fruit.



Time: 2nd June 2009 4:39pm

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Phil. says...
I had success air layering a particularly good loquat before I moved house. It took about three months but seems to be doing well. I don't think cuttings will do any good though. The parent plant was a seedling, I think, but beautiful, sweet, almost white loquat fruit in the weeks leading up to Christmas.

Time: 2nd June 2009 11:30pm

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Julie says...
What time of year did you do this Phil? Yes, you can be lucky and get a good seedling plant. Same with avocados. But I guess I'm not prepared to take the risk - all that feeding, watering and waiting, and you might get a dud!

Time: 3rd June 2009 3:28pm

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Phil. says...
It was October/November last year. I used a plastic bag with some sphagnum moss and put rooting hormone gel on the cut surface of the shoot I wanted to use, and secured it all with plastic cable ties. Had to move house in January and fortunately some roots had started to form. Have the potted up plant now in Nth NSW which looks like it has survived ok.

Time: 3rd June 2009 4:04pm

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Dv says...
Hi guys,
I am thinking to get some plants from daley, but as you mentioned above there are some plants which is restricted. Do you where can I get the list of restricted plants?

Thank you.

dv

Time: 28th June 2009 11:25pm

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Dv says...
Oh I forgot to mention that I am from Perth WA

Time: 28th June 2009 11:25pm

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Jimmy says...
www.agric.wa.gov.au/quarantine

Time: 29th June 2009 4:13pm

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amanda says...
Hi Dv - when u try to order a restricted plant for WA - you will be prevented (an alert message comes up) other suppliers will also say "Not for WA" etc...

Time: 29th June 2009 8:04pm

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Anne says...
I have heaps of seedlings at the moment which are in need of thinning. I am going to try grafting for faster production of fruit & of course enjoyment. (Does anyone have any diagrams for me to follow?)
The parent tree is quite large with delicious sweet fruit. It lives off rain water runoff.
For the last few years the tree has produced about 70 litres of loquat wine per crop with around 14% - 17% alcohol content.
The crop is often picked on Boxing Day here in Adelaide, South Australia.

Time: 29th April 2010 7:26am

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Hannah says...
I just bought my first ever Loquat tree (grown at Balhannah Nursery)..
Any advice/recommendations for it given that I plan on keeping it in a pot? (I am likely to continue living in a rental for another 4 years).
Does anyone have a good source of information for making Loquat Wine?

Time: 27th September 2010 4:35pm

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amanda says...
Hannah - if your water supply is good then it should be ok in a pot - loquats are classed as ultra-sensitive to salt...(no wonder both of mine died here)

Maybe be careful about keeping a dish under the pot (will allow salt build up) and go easy with hard core fertilisers.

I don't know how to make loquat wine but it sounds lovely!?

Time: 30th September 2010 10:36am

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Jason says...
I don't know about growing one in a pot but I do know they prefer to be in the shade most of the day rather than in full sun. I planted 6 or so all at the same time and 2 that were in the shade are 3x larger than the others. 3 that were in full sun are OK but much smaller and 1 that was in full sun further up the hill (dry) never grew at all. You might have to prune the roots a bit to keep it small enough to transport in 4 years time

Time: 30th September 2010 4:02pm

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Anne says...
Hannah,
If you Google Loquat Wine, you'll find lots of information. The sites include recipes for Loquat Jam & Loquat Jelly, with the latter being my favourite.
Loquats are delicious to eat fresh. Peel (or not), break open with fingers & remove both the inner membrane & seeds. Break bite size pieces into a bowl. Top with cream, icecream or yoghurt for a great refreshing summer dessert. Very yummy with lovely sticky fingers.
FYI... When you go to the Royal Show next year, look out for Loquat Jam & Jelly tastings. One can buy if ya want, too. They're normally in the Wine Tasting tent.
If you plan to keep your loquat tree potted, use a half wooden wine barrel. As you bought the plant from Balhannah, they may have one. Winerys sell them as well. Soil? Speak to the nursery.
A large proportion of web info on loquats is from overseas, so soil types, weather, fertilizer, etc., etc., don't necessarily work for Adelaide conditions.
Loquats LOVE rainwater from downpipes, the more rain, the plumper & sweeter, making the wine the colour of liquid gold. Leaf mulch is also important & coz the leaves are large, it's easy to keep the soil covered.
Good luck... :-)

Time: 3rd October 2010 1:43am

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JaketheSnake says...
Does anyone know where in Perth people sell loquat fruit? I'd really like to buy some.

Time: 19th November 2010 6:52pm

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amanda says...
I think the loquat season (in Perth) may be over JaketheSnake? Sometimes the smaller F&V shops (or 'gourmet' one's like Cottesloe Boat Shed) sell them.

They were only in our local F&V for about 2 weeks this year, sadly.

Time: 20th November 2010 6:15pm

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amanda says...
Any secrets to germinating loquat seeds guys? Do they take a long time?
Florida Tom was kind enough to post me some of his seeds awhile back and I am busting to get them going!
They took awhile to get here (thru quarantine - and they were inspected too...does that mean they were treated?)

They looked ok - the outer husk was a bit dry and cracked - but inside looked fine?
I have them in pots inside where it's warm.

Time: 20th July 2011 10:44am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Sometimes I have felt that seeds imported are treated/irradiated as the germination rates are poor to nil - I have grown loquats from fresh seed easily Amanda, just don't sow too deep. Tom is a real find isn't he, and a top bloke as well.
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Time: 20th July 2011 11:00am

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BJ says...
I dont think there is any special care you need to give them. I throw the seeds into the garden and a few months later they pop up. After a while I dig them up and pot them. If you're treating them nice by keeping them in the warmth, they should come up quite quickly.

They are tough - wind, damp, dry and cold harly seem to worry them. I've even seen some beauties in Canberra.

edit - if the irradiation does effect the germination, let us know. I can try (WA Quarantine permitting) sending some seeds to you of a number of trees around here. I have a 'champagne' cv which I could supply seeds of, plus numerous seedlings - the earliest of which are already starting to show colour.

Time: 20th July 2011 11:02am

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amanda says...
Thanks BJ - a few months hey...I will have to be patient ;-) You guys are sooo lucky to be able to get those varieties over there - I am green with envy!

Tom send me a Vista White and a worthy 'unknown'...I am so excited - so fingers crossed.

Thanks for your kind offer too - I would love to try Champagne if it's not too much trouble for you?

My email is sunley(at)wn(dot)com(dot)au - I would be happy to send you a stamped post pack? (or if I have anything you might like to try?)

Time: 20th July 2011 11:29am

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John Mc says...
These are nice and ripe already. From memory it was a Nagasakawasi seedling. I grafted a small scion of Champaign onto one of it's branches which has taken and has a small bunch of fruit on it. I've left a few fruit on the Champaign graft to see what it looks and tasts like.

Here's a pic of the early ripe nagasaki in fruit already.
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Time: 20th July 2011 7:18pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Wow early fruit John - haven't ever seen them fruit until Nov/Dec, mine only ever flower in July

Time: 20th July 2011 7:24pm

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John Mc says...
Yeah Phil, i don't remember it fruiting this early in past years. I'm wondering if it was the abnormaly cool May we had this year? Apparently we had the coldest May in a decade or two. Although, I think it was flowering before the cold hit.

Time: 20th July 2011 8:14pm

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amanda says...
Lovely plants John Mc - lucky you :)

Time: 20th July 2011 8:49pm

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BJ says...
Does anyone have any information on the loquat cvs Vin 1 and Tony 2, which are supplied to Bunnings en masse by Birdwood without any cultural information. Getting info from Birdwood is always pretty hard.

Time: 30th July 2011 8:13pm

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miya says...
this is miya,i am familar with LED grow light,i have five years experience of plant, may be i can help you,
if you can tell me the area of your plant
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Time: 5th August 2011 6:07pm

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jason Katoomba says...
I have Vin-1 bought from Birdwood. It is a little tart and not particularly good . I have seedlings that are better.

Time: 5th August 2011 6:31pm

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Mike says...
I tried very nice loquats for the first time this week from a few trees growing around public spaces in Atherton.They are an impressive fruit that people on the coast here can't grow.

Time: 6th August 2011 3:56pm

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amanda says...
Have you eaten the early fruit yet, John Mc? Were they ok?

It's interesting how fruit can taste so different from season to season - even from the same tree. Eg: I can't eat my cedar bay cherries that ripen in summer - they are too astringent - but in winter they are quite palatable.

And my citrus are always sweet - but it takes a cupla weeks of cool nights for them to develop complexity of flavour. This year my Emporer mandarins were really good for the first time in 4yrs - because the season was just right for them - but my reliable Imperials were not so good as they ripened too early when it was still too warm.

I have loads of yellow strawberry guavas ripening now (but no reds at all) and they are really delicious! I am surprised for a guava to be so sweet in winter...?

Don't give up yet jason katoomba - your Vin-1 may just need more time (how old is it?) or the right season...





Time: 6th August 2011 11:24pm

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John Mc says...
Yes they are absolutely beautiful. I go over the tree almost daily looking for the yellowest fruit. The brighter the yellow the sweeter the fruit. It's been good, the fruit is ripening unevenly all over the tree so I'm getting a nice long extended crop.
My emperor's are not their best this year, I didn't pull enough off when they were small, I let the tree produce far more than it should have. The hicksons are by far the nicest.

Time: 7th August 2011 5:41pm

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BJ says...
Hi John,
If you have excess material from pruning, I wouldn't mind grafting a piece to one of my trees. Any good fruit that beats the fruit flies is a treasure in my yard.
I have plenty of nice things starting to overcrowd my nursery.

Time: 7th August 2011 8:02pm

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John Mc says...
Anytime BJ, let me know when you're ready. I'll tag the earliest producing branches for future reference.

Time: 7th August 2011 10:10pm

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Anne says...
I live in Australia and it is best to just leave them covered outdoors where you want the tree to grow. It'll get all the nutrients and rain it needs from the soil much better than inside. It is an outside tree which grows to 15' here in Oz, maybe more... not good on height, but they are very tall and can be very wide. Depends on how ya prune it.
The seedling should appear in late winter early spring and will be a very strong looking small seedling with one dark glossy leaf, then 2 and so forth. It takes about 7 years to fruit for the 1st time, unless you graft one seedling to another, which means ya should get fruit in about 5 years. Of course this info is for we Aussies plus neither am I an expert.
You mentioned the outside of the seed was dry and the inside moist?
Why are you pulling the seed apart? You may have damaged the seed.
Loquat seeds seem to me to be fairly hardy, but they do love rainwater. If you have runoff somewhere, plant it in the drainage area for rich green glossy leaves, flowers covering ya tree and sumptuous fruit.
The seedling in these pics which I took just a few minutes ago, came up about six weeks ago. The seed's been in the soil for about 2 years. Pictures 3, 4 and 5 were taken with the camera sitting ground level with the seedling.
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amanda says...
I am green with envy John Mc! :) Thank goodness there are still plenty of loquat trees around the area we are moving to, to test. The import ban is making is really tough here.

My seeds from Tom in Florida still haven't germinated....

Time: 8th August 2011 12:21pm

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Julie says...
amanda, you are moving? Where to? Haven't seen you mention it before.

Time: 8th August 2011 7:27pm

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BJ says...
Hi John,
Any time you are ready, I'd love to get some scions. Maybe after the fruits have come off and the plant is looking to burst. my email is didge (underscore) 2001 at hotmail (dot) com. We'll see if you'd like to try anything I've got here.

Also, interesting to see on my Champagne cv the other day - a locust ate the side out of a green fruit, exposing the seed. It actually started germinating on the tree.

Time: 8th August 2011 8:36pm

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amanda says...
Orlando Tom! I finally have some signs of life with those loquat seeds u sent!! I am so thrilled!
It's taken a long time hey? Hubby was getting a bit miffed at the tray of pots taking up so much room on the kitchen bench - but I didn't lose the faith :D
They are getting filtered water at present - and I will use rainwater when they go out to the shade house. I won't let our crappy tap water near them...
Thanks so much for your seeds Tom :)



Time: 30th August 2011 9:34am

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BJ says...
I lost around 1/4 of my Champagne crop to splitting with the heavy rain we got the other day. I wish it would just stay awy for the next few weeks so we get a good loquat crop and our mango flowers get pollinated.

Unfortunately, we've got more heavy rain predicted this afternoon - so I'll be eating more half ripe split loquat :(

Time: 30th August 2011 9:46am

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don says...
Who sells Champaigne loquats,if I may ask?

Time: 30th August 2011 4:08pm

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BJ says...
I believe Birdwood do them once in a blue moon. I got mine last year from Nova Garden ex Birdwood. They seem to do Vin1 and Tony2 mostly now. They seem to do the same thing with a few of their fruit trees - propogate them only once a decade because there is low demand, but still make them available once in a (very long) while.

Time: 30th August 2011 4:29pm

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don says...
Many thanks. Is Champaigne as good as they say?. I have Vin 1 and it is just so-so.

Time: 30th August 2011 5:20pm

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John Mc says...
I have a single, very small, Champagne graft on my largish Nagasaki seedling tree with five Champagne fruits on the way so I'll let you know.
@ BJ, Still a bit early to send you some early fruiting scions????

Time: 30th August 2011 6:10pm

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Tom says...
Hi Amanda - just got your message. I've been wondering how my babies are doing down there for you and Jantina. I potted some seeds at the same time we sent y'all's, and they're just breaking earth now too; so we're synchronized, eh? You've got the better timing, though, with spring coming on down there.

Phil, if you're watching this forum, I'm happy to report that "your babies", the Pink Finger Limes and all the Davidson Plums, are doing quite well. I owe you some pics.
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Time: 31st August 2011 2:34am

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amanda says...
Wow - they are in sync!? I didn't realise they took so long and was getting worried our Customs may have done something evil to them ;)

I am checking our F&V shop every other day now - just waiting for my spring loquat fix.

BJ - that's tragic - I would be gutted by that. Is the water touching the fruit that swells/splits/rots the skin - or is it because of the tree/fruit taking up more water..?
I've never seen that on loquats b4...is it a common problem?

(ps does Champagne have a particularly thin skin maybe...?)

Time: 31st August 2011 9:24am

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BJ says...
Finally, the Champagne fruits are ripening. Absolutely delicious. Half ripe they are as good as most loquats I've tried, but fully ripe, they are something else entirely. Like a cross between a soft, sweet pear and a flat peach. The slightly less ripe ones have a little tartness, but the fully ripe ones are really sweet.

The fruits do have a very thin skin which is also very easy to peel off - as my wife doesnt like the skin for purely aesthetic reasons, and you can eat the skin without any effect to the flavour.

I had been eating most of my split fruits at the half ripe stage, but found that most seem to ripen fine on the tree, and when it comes time to eat, just cut off the side with the split. I bag mine, so nasties cant really get inside the split anyways.

I haven't noticed a lot of loquats around here splitting - and we have dozens of trees locally, so maybe it is the one real downside to the champagne cultivar. Otherwise, its compact, precocious, productive, prolific and delicious!

Time: 7th September 2011 1:22pm

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Don Port Macquarie says...
I checked with the nursery you suggested in Brisbane and ,sob, they're out of Champaigne. Any other suppliers? Birdwood don't answer their email. {never do.)

Time: 7th September 2011 4:00pm

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BJ says...
I have a feeling its a plant they do on their decade cycle. They said they do this with some plants as there isn't great awareness of the cultivar, even though it is good, as there is little demand. They then re-release once a decade and the enthusiasts/collectors can pick it up and new gardeners can discover it, but the demand, they say, usually doesnt extend beyond a season or two and isnt worth their grafting every year. They say they do this with a number of their Mango CVs.

Of course, I could be wrong, and if the demand exists and they are told it exists, they would have to produce what the market wants.

Time: 7th September 2011 4:25pm

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ringelstrumpf says...
Hi jason, good to have a cool climate gardener here! Are you related to the fruit and tree network? Have you heared of our "footlight" (sustainability ) festival?(sorry for hijacking the thread, but I don't know how to send a private message)

And back to the topic: loaquats in cool climate, yes? and which variety and when do they fruit in Katoomba?

Time: 7th September 2011 7:19pm

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jason says...
I HAVE A SEEDLING loquat ,fruited after 12 years, fruits Oct . do you belong to the Fruit and Nut Network, Ringelstrumpf?

Time: 8th September 2011 8:46am

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ringelstrumpf says...
No, but we're organizing our sustainability festival and they will be there. Maybe you're interested having a stall? OK if that loquat fruits then I'll by a plant. October is a good month because there's little to harvest.

Time: 8th September 2011 6:37pm

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amanda says...
I picked up a couple of very healthy 1m tall Loquat seedlings from Bunnings today. I rang Touchwood Nursery (WA) to ask about the parent plant and they guy there told me that it is a local tree that produces great fruit - but - that it would be around 50yrs old...

I wonder what variety would have been around back then...any ideas?

(first time I have seen loquat plants in our Bunnings for 4yrs now - so I couldn't help myself :)

(Tom - I am getting some great results from your seeds and the Vista Whites are popping up now!)

Time: 20th September 2011 11:52am

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john says...
In 11 or so years you should be brimming over with loquats

Time: 20th September 2011 1:53pm

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amanda says...
I am very patient john ;) Would still like to know what varieties of loquats might have been around 50yrs ago..?

They are beautiful plants - and a bit interesting in that the leaves are not so rounded - more lanceolate shaped..?

(and I can always use these Bunno one's for grafting - when I eventually find a 'champagne' in WA :)

(ps - the grower-dude said they had plenty of flesh and the stones weren't too big - in fact him n staff had a big feed whilst harvesting the seeds and said they were good...)

Time: 20th September 2011 4:34pm

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