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Does anyone know anything about pruning these trees? I have about 16 trees on a property that I bought and dont know when and if they need pruning - they are in poor condition.

Thanks

Time: 21st June 2007 8:23pm

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Correy says...
The objective of pruning a lychee is to prune it into a dome shape. You should prune it back about 15cm after each harvest to encourage new growth.

I found a great site on lychees for you:

Lychees Online

We had a lychee tree growing up and we got about 2 prolific crops from it. They often won't fruit every year but I suspect if we would have pruned it we would have had more success.

Watch out for bats. And I hope you get those lychee trees fruiting because they are far too expensive in the shops these days.
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Time: 22nd June 2007 11:57am

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Gibbo says...
My lychees are going well. They love the water though and stress if they don't get lots. Also, I haven't done anything to them in a year except water them I don't add any fertilizer since you have to do it at certain times and they don't like nitrates and I tried some nitrate less fertilizer but they still went brown at the tips of the leaves. Anyway I have 4 trees, bosworth and salathiel varieties. attached are two issues I have noticed. one is the brown felt under the leaf which is caused by Erinose mite and I think I have to spray with rogor or find some organic equivalent on the internet. The other leaf was chomped by Rhyparid and red shoulder beetles and I can spray with Carbaryl or again find some organic alternative. As for pruning. Daleys Fruit have a tiny little book that is fantastic called Book Pruning for Fruit by Bruce Morphett only $12. The only other thing I have noticed is that they can be a little sensitive to wind above a breeze if it's constantly blowing on them.
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Time: 22nd June 2007 2:05pm

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Correy says...
Gibbo, that is fantastic information on lychees and great pictures.

Time: 22nd June 2007 5:15pm

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Anonymous says...
Bosworth 3 is said to be the most suitable for the Perth (WA) climate ....
does anyone in Perth has any experience with this variety ?

As I live in a small townhouse on a very small block, I prefer a smaller, more compact tree (the Wai Chee variety ? but this variety is very rarely available).

Any comment and/or opinion is very welcome.

Thanks.

Time: 7th January 2008 12:57am

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Leona says...
Hi, I live in Perth and have a Bosworth 3 in a pot, it is doing very well. It is fairly slow growing but extremely healthy.

Time: 7th January 2008 2:05pm

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tracey faison says...
i live in Jacksonville Fl. and i would love to try it there is only very few berries i have not eaten.have you tried,loosening the dirt and replacing it with organic dirt.the homade rimedes for keeping insect,bats away from ituntil its ready to rep its fruits again.

Time: 13th February 2008 8:51am

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shim says...
Does anyone here knwo when the sowing period of a lychee is?
cheers

Time: 24th May 2008 12:28pm

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Shaun says...
My Bosworth 3 Lychee plant has sent out new flowering shoots recently ....
isn't it the wrong time of the year for Lychee trees to flower now -- it is winter, wet and cold !! ??

Time: 29th June 2008 12:47am

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Shaun says...
I hope Lychee trees do not need cross pollination .....
Does anyone know anything on this subject? Please comment.

Time: 30th June 2008 6:22pm

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Shaun says...
hmm .... strange ....
my Lychee tree is still putting out new flower growth, but is is now mid winter and it has been soaking wet with rain for the past few weeks .....
and the tip of the older leaves now has a very tiny 'brown dot' as if it has been burnt.
Anyone out there wants to comment, please ?

Time: 3rd August 2008 10:45pm

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Correy says...
Hi Shaun. They won't need cross pollination. I saw a lychee tree in tweed heads which had flowers on it at this time of year.

I notice that this winter a lot of fruit trees that don't usually have flowers are flowering.

Lychees do however like dry weather when they are flowering.

This time of year the lychee trees aren't going to look pristine. But they are very sensitive to fertilisers so if you have maybe stop giving them fertiliser.

Time: 4th August 2008 8:41am

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Shaun says...
Thanks for your tips, Correy.
The last time I feed my Lychee with weak solutions of Powerfeed and Seasol was approx 5 months ago ....
one book says the brown leaf tips could be caused by "wind burn" ???
I didn't realise that cold moist winter wind could cause burns.


Time: 4th August 2008 10:17am

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Shaun says...
The flower stalks are still full of flowers on my Lychee tree, although some flowers have dried and fallen off in the last week or so.
I understand lychee is slow growing, and was told not to encourage young/small fruit trees to set fruit in the first and/or second season so that they can grow properly/stronger.

Questions:
1) Should I remove or prune away the flower stalks on my Lychee tree ?
2) What should I do to promote more growth of the Lychee tree ?

Time: 27th October 2008 1:33am

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Anonymous says...
Has anyone in Perth successfully grown Lychee in their home gardens ?

Time: 18th November 2008 2:16pm

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Leona says...
My lychee now has some fruit forming on it...many of the flowers did dry up but I will be happy with whatever I get!

Time: 18th November 2008 2:33pm

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Shaun says...
Just some unanswered questions to the post above:
"The flower stalks are still full of flowers on my Lychee tree, although some flowers have dried and fallen off in the last week or so.
I understand lychee is slow growing, and was told not to encourage young/small fruit trees to set fruit in the first and/or second season so that they can grow properly/stronger.

Questions:
1) Should I remove or prune away the flower stalks on my Lychee tree ?
2) What should I do to promote more growth of the Lychee tree ?"

All tips will be appreciated.
Thanks.

Time: 19th November 2008 2:30pm

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Anonymous says...
Did someone said Daleys have got dwarf Lychee trees in stock ?
What variety are these dwarf trees, please.

Time: 1st December 2008 7:23pm

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ann says...
We have a lychee tree planted approx 1986, bought from Blossom Nurseries and believed to be Indian. Produces large crop every second year in February. At present covered in fresh growth a beautiful garden tree. Had to protect it from the hot easterly winds when it was young.

Time: 25th April 2009 9:41pm

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Shaun says...
My Bosworth 3 Lychee will be experiencing its 2nd winter season this year ....
it survived last winter and was doing well until the hot & erratic summer weather wreak havoc on it .....
but it did recovered slightly and put out 4 new leaves .....
so I hope it will gain some more growth when spring comes again.

Time: 5th June 2009 5:43pm

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ann says...
We live in the foothills of Perth. Our tree is 3 - 4 metres high by approx 5 -6 across. My husband cut the top out as it was getting too awkward to pick the fruit. When the tree was young he made a frame around it with shadecloth to give it protection from the easterlies which are very bad here in the summer. We have a bore and as the tree is in our front garden surrounded by lawn which is only watered twice a week in the summer, he set up a separate hose to the lychee so it was watered at the same time as the vegetables. Only the roots are watered at this time as the hose is attached to a holed spike in the ground by the tree.

Seemed to work as we have a beautiful tree. One downside it has large crop every second year. I am told this is not unusual with some fruit trees.

Time: 10th July 2009 8:52am

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Shaun says...
Thanks for sharing your Lychee growing tips, Ann.
BTW, where is Blossom Nurseries?

Time: 10th July 2009 9:49pm

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amanda says...
Hi Correy n all, I have read a few references about not giving jaboticabas nitrates too (something to do with them being slow growing n sensitive) I have them in my Biolytix zone (which basically pumps worm wee all year round). They seem to be ok at 3 yrs but the older leaves have burnt tips.

I was going to plant my new lychee in here too (n longon, wampees) - are these all sensitive to nitrates too?

Ann - do u fertilise your tree? (plants seem to love the bore water in parts of Perth - I was told that it has a good quantity of iron n sulphur..?)

Time: 11th July 2009 11:07am

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Mitzvot says...
I certainly have learned a lot from reading this web page, especially about Nitrate fertilizers. I have used Dynamic Lifter (Chicken Poo) on the Lychee tree, it is no wonder it is scorched to blazes. I have a couple of queries re their car.
1) What is the best fertilizer to use?
2) Are they okay to be heavily mulched?
3) How much water ( quantity and frequency) is necessary for a 203 year old tree?
Thanks in anticipation
M

Time: 16th August 2009 10:52pm

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Mitzvot says...
Oops that is 2-3 year old NOT 203..
Sorry

Time: 16th August 2009 10:54pm

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ann says...
Blossom Nursery was in Gosnells at the time we purchased our tree which was approx 1986. It was a nursery owned by Neville Passmore's family.

Time: 23rd August 2009 2:03pm

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ann says...
Article in The West Australian 12/12/08

New stocks of lychee trees (Litchi chinensis), one of most luscious of all fruits, are finally available at nurseries.

Native to the lowlands of southern China, the plants prefer warm humid summers and cool dry winters, but two varieties, Kwai May Pink (also known as Bosworth Number Three) and Chacapat, are proven performers in subtropical climates.

Plant in full sun in a spot protected from the wind. You can erect wind barriers for the first few years but trees will not survive coastal conditions. Young trees will not tolerate frost but mature trees are much more robust, reasonably drought-tolerant and can survive short periods of -4c.

Lychees do not like waterlogging and soils must be improved with organic matter.

In alkaline soils, like the ones found in most of coastal WA, they may need additions of chelated iron to prevent chlorosis (yellow leaves because of iron deficiency).

All soils must be heavily improved with compost and soil improver - use a whole bag at planting time, improving the soil wider rather than deeper.

Young trees need regular moisture and grow quite slowly - needing little more than an application of well-rotted manure at planting time. Older trees can be given fertiliser twice during their growing season. They are shallow-rooted and must be mulched.

Plants should bear in three or four years.

Fruits are expensive to buy because they do not store well. Pick the scented, red-skinned fruits, which have a translucent white flesh round a seed when fully ripe in autumn. Trees are attractive, with dense foliage, and grow slowly to less than 8m with a 5m spread.

Some sources say that the trees can be kept in a pot but recommend a yearly root trim before the plants are returned to the container.

Trees have male and female flowers on the same tree but planting more than one tree will improve fruit set.

This article in the Habitat Section was written by Deryn Thorpe a garden consultant.

Note: We have very sandy soil and have always used sheep poo and NPK blue.
When it was young we used mulch but not now as it has such a wide span and the foliage is dense.

Time: 23rd August 2009 3:00pm

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Marianne says...
I would like to have information on growing lychee trees from seeds that I've saved from ripe fruit.

Time: 26th August 2009 12:30am

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tecko says...
I managed to sprout 2 lychee seedlings by putting a seed covered with seed raising mix filled with potting mix in a pot. I watered it every day. However, after a few weeks, I gave up because I didn't see anything growing. I left the pots among some plants, and almost forgot about it. A few months later, whilst clearing my pots, I thought I saw "something" - true enough, my seeds had sprouted into baby seedlings. One is about 3-4 inches tall now, and the other is about 7-8 inches tall. Maybe someone else has a quicker and more efficient way?

Time: 26th August 2009 5:29pm

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anonymous says...
Lychees always take a few months to germinate.

Time: 12th September 2009 5:41pm

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Shaun says...
Like my Longan, my Lychee planted in a large pot has sent out new shoots ....
at this stage, I don't know if these are flower buds or leave shoots ....
Last spring, most of the 'shoots' turned out to be flowers, and my Lychee plant did not gain much growth at all ....
I want to avoid the same error this year, so that I get more growth and leafy shoots from my plant ..... yet, I was told that too much fertiliser (Nitrogen) could cause the Lychee leaves to turn brown at its tips (Lychee plants are sensitive to Nitrogen???)
Any help and advice will be appreciated.
Thanks.

Time: 17th September 2009 3:35am

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amanda says...
Hi Shaun - u could be right there. I came across the same warning with Jaboticabas when googling them - it said that too much nitrogen harmful as growth is so slow. Makes sense - they are very slow growing!

When in doubt I go for liquid seaweed (Seasol)- It's got loads of good stuff and is lower in Nitrogen. A soil testing guy told me that it is great for making soil nutrients available to the plants? Go for a good quality manure and maybe a pinch of blood n bone if u are really keen - it's slow release. You should see some gains. Keep the water up to them in summer - very important.

My lychee planted last month and has flowers now! I will be pulling them off too. Seems to be happy I guess/hope :)

Time: 17th September 2009 9:17am

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Cuong says...
Amanda,

I guess your lychee is a Bosworth 3/ Kwai mai pink?

that variety flowers earlier then the rest

I've yet to see some fruiting lychee in WA altough I have heard of 1 or 2 people that have supossedly had sucess

longan are far easier to get to fruit than lychee...

Time: 17th September 2009 7:48pm

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amanda says...
Good call Cuong! It is indeed a Kwai mai pink! I know nothing about lychees - I was really surprised to see the flowers only a month after planting it out...I have taken them off 2day but I think there are more coming - their new leaves n flowers look a bit the same to start with?
It's a strange plant with regard to it's needs ... we have a dry autumn in general so I think there is hope? Winter rains are very short. It remains to be see how it copes with our saline water tho'.

Time: 17th September 2009 8:15pm

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CJ says...
My 3 year and 5 year old Fay Zee Siu tree are flowering but there is no female flowers what can i do to get female flowers next year?

Time: 17th September 2009 9:26pm

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Cuong says...
on the subject of lychee and longan...

for those in WA, Wandilla nursery have just got in a new batch of trees in.

heaps to choose from

lychee: kwai mai pink, fai zee siu, haak yip, tai so and some other one

longan: biew kiew, chompoo and kohala

$45.95 each

Time: 17th September 2009 11:11pm

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Shaun says...
Looks like my Lychee tree is putting out more flower buds than more new leaves.
So, it's time to feed it and to encourage new leafy growth.

Time: 21st September 2009 1:23am

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amanda says...
Hi Shaun - are u removing the flower buds?

Time: 21st September 2009 10:26am

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Shaun says...
Hi Amanda,
Do you mean just to cut away the flower buds of the Lychee? It won't affect the growth of the plant, will it?
Perhaps, I should wait till it can be confirmed the buds are flowers and not new leave shoots before I cut them off, don't you think.
Thanks for your input.

Time: 21st September 2009 11:46pm

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amanda says...
Hey Shaun - just pinch them out with thumb n forefinger. They grow from a stem between the leaf-stem and the trunk and it won't be long b4 u can tell the difference - so u can afford to wait if u prefer. The flowers are not nearly as labour intensive for the plant as the fruit - so u won't be setting it back by waiting a few more weeks. I will try to post a pic of mine for u - but i think I pinched all mine out already.

Time: 22nd September 2009 9:24am

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Shaun says...
Thanks for your advice, amanda.
The flowers have dropped off, and now there are small green rounded 'beads' in their place .....
I s'pose these will develope into fruits if the conditions are right.
Is this the correct time to pinch them off ?
I don't see any new leaf-shoots though .... so I may not get any new growth, even if I removed these 'green beads'.

Time: 9th November 2009 1:54pm

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amanda says...
Hi Shaun - yes u can pinch them out if u want Or...u could leave one or two fruit and see what happens :-) Might be worth it in order to get a little practice in while u wait for the real deal in a year or 5!
Now the weather is warming up I am expecting mine to start putting out new growth - especially with this "tropical" type weather we are having lately? I will let u know how it goes.


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joda says...
hellow folks anything that burns during winter or summer if in a coastal place will suffer from the salt winds at anytime of the year. Most trees will burn back to state or branch with tiny or no regrowth on in it. just keep the water up and dont let it dry out longer than two days. During the hot weather tree roots often come back to the surface because excess water, in the long run you do more damage to any trees except the long established trees even relocated fruiting trees will perfprm bad.

Time: 22nd November 2009 2:58am

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Shaun says...
I don't know if I had asked this question previously .... but I'll ask (again) anyway:
There are various cultivars of Lychee available in WA ....
1) has anyone got / planted more than one cultivar in their home orchard ?
2) for those who had / have experience with more than 1 cultivar, is there a real / perceivable difference between the various cultivars that you got (fruit quality, plant sizes & growth habits) ?

At the moment I got a Bosworth 3 planted in a big pot ..... but it is growing sooo slowly that the pot look oversized for the plant.
If I were to get another Lychee (No Mai Chi or Wai Chee) that is either slower growing or more compact, it may take forever to see any growth at all.

Time: 28th November 2009 2:01pm

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Sean says...
This site http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/lychee/index.htm has a good description for most of the well known lychee trees Shaun. They also sell them but only the three gallon size trees. It's called the Pine Island Nursery. The Bosworth 3 is also called Kwai Mai Pink.

I have read from many other lychee growers that the Mauritius grows quite fast and the emperor and kwai Mai Pink are slow growers so they're good for indoor growing.

I bought a Mauritius from Nipa Hut Gardens. It should be 2-3 ft. tall. I'll be growing mine inside during the winter and outside on my window ledge during the summer. I'll tie the pot down so it doesn't fall down in case of wind.

Is an air-layered lychee plant supposed to flower right away or is their a a 3-4 year wait? Also, do they like humid weather in the summer because it's humid where I live in the summer.

Time: 1st December 2009 6:51am

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Cuong says...
Mauritius is also called Tai So - I have two of these and they are fast growing for a lychee tree

Time: 2nd December 2009 12:16am

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Sean says...
The Mauritius that I bought had a nest of red fire ants in it's roots. They had formed a sort of moss like nest. The people I bought it from said they treat all of their trees with a fire ant drip, so they were surprised that any of the ants were alive. I soaked the roots in water after loosening all of the soil.

I believe I got rid of the ants. I haven't seen any and I've bought an ant killer just in case. The lychee is still in shock but I think it will perk up in a few weeks.

Time: 5th December 2009 1:19am

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Simon says...
Hi Leona,

I am from Perth as well. How long do you have your lychee tree?

I have a Bosworth lychee plant in the ground for 5 years now. Every spring it flowers but no fruits set in (I assumed that the tree is still young). After these years it is still about 350 mm tall because each winter, it seems to retard the plant growth so that nett grow is next to zero! After 5 years, I am still waiting for it to grow-up! I feed it reasonably well with NKP blue. Now I started to switch to fertilizer for azalea as I read that it prefers slightly acidic conditions. Can anyone else provide some encouragement?


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LILIA says...
I live in the Perth Metro area and would love to try growing a Lychee tree. I bought come fruit recently and kept the seeds. They were so sweet and delicious that I thought I would give it a go. Can anyone advise me on how to go about planting from seeds? I don't know what variety but they are not small seeds. I don't know if they like the sun or shade, soil type, fertilisers, etc. Thanks

Time: 16th February 2010 7:51pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Lilia,
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but lychee trees grown from seeds, sometimes never bear at all. Best to buy a grafted tree, that way you know it will bear fruit.

They can be tricky to grow, but need some sulphate of potash, gypsum & mulch, to help them bear.

Time: 17th February 2010 6:57am

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Simon says...
Hi Lilia,

I would agree with Brendan. Buying a grafted tree is a better bet. Not only you are not starting from ground zero, it definitely saves you quite a few years of waiting (growing) time. I have two Bosworth lychee trees bought at different time, one in the ground n the other in a 50cm pot. The one in the pot (bought only 2 years ago) is doing better than the one in the ground (as mentioned on 3rd Feb above). Probably in summer, the Perth sandy soil could not retain enough moisture compared with the potting mix in the pot. That

Time: 23rd February 2010 6:19pm

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Brad says...
I think lychees are normally air layered (marcotted) to propagate. I don't know if they're then grafted for disease resistance or smaller trees etc.

Time: 24th February 2010 4:10pm

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pete says...
I have found with my tree which would be 30 years old only had 1 good crop that was when I put solfate of potash around the base.It has never been pruned except for intrusive branches. Maybe this is why it never fruits properly. The black Rhino beatles love to gorge one the fruit. To get a good tree stock. Find a mature tree and do a dicot that is barking a branch, raping a plastic bag filled with a good compost potting mix moistened and leaving it until the roots develope then cut it of and plant out into a pot it will fruit almost after 12 months

Time: 16th September 2010 7:52pm

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amanda says...
Are these lychee flowers? I have never seen them b4 so not sure if this is them? thanks.
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Time: 19th September 2010 8:22pm

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Shaun says...
Hi amanda,
Yes, those are lychee flowers.
They are small, and rather insignificanr .....
the flowers usually appear around this time of the year .....
hope you get a crop this year !!

Time: 19th September 2010 11:20pm

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amanda says...
Ta Shaun - I am surprised as it's only been in ground 1yr. Wow - everything going mad this year here! :)

Time: 19th September 2010 11:54pm

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Robyn says...
Hi everyone. How do I tell which variety of lychee I have. It was in the yard when we bought. Two good seasons (filled 3x20lr buckets of just fruit, no twigs etc, and never touched the top - cause we couldn't reach), then not a flower now this season looks great again. Am trying to learn how to look after it properly.

Time: 20th September 2010 3:38pm

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Cuong says...
Sounds like I should be moving to QLD!! :)

Time: 20th September 2010 9:10pm

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amanda says...
By all accounts, Lychees are very pendantic about the weather when it comes to them deigning to bear fruit.. :(

Time: 21st September 2010 9:31am

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tecko says...
What's the likely "cultivar" of Lychee that is sold in Woolsworth? My Lychee seedling sprouted from Woolsworth bought is now about 2 and a half feet tall. The greatest growth rate happened during the last hot season during summer of 09/10 when it received lots of water, twice a day, every day, and under full sun.

Time: 21st September 2010 2:37pm

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Robyn says...
After reading this forum I know how we got a massive crop. Weather isn't always right but when it gets it it's perfect. Had lots of friends suddenly appear too. Especially when the supermarket price is so expensive (not less than $6.99 peak time)

Time: 28th September 2010 11:14pm

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ann says...
We have a 24 year old tree which has a bumper crop every second year and very little if any in the other year. With water restrictions during a dry winter here in Perth our tree has not been watered and I am surprised to find our tree full of blossom following on a bumper crop in February.

Time: 29th September 2010 12:03am

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Cuong says...
Ann I would love to see a picure of your lychee tree. It is very rare to hear about a lychee tree fruiting here in Perth I have planted two trees less then one year ago and they are both flowering too but maybe to young to bear fruit

Time: 2nd October 2010 9:04pm

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Chris says...
Just wondering if anyone has a success story for the control of erinose mites on Lychees? I am interested in whether neem might work?

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Time: 11th October 2010 3:58pm

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Sandy says...
My Lychee is rapidly dying and a friend of my suggested that it has had too much water. Its leaves are slowly going brown.
We've had an awful lot of rain lately and its feet have stayed soaked, the ground being somewhat muddy and saturated.
Do people agree that the roots probably have rotted? Any answers greatly appreciated.
I've been giving it foliar seasol the last couple of days, hoping to save it. It will be very disappointing to see it go as I've been nurturing it for the last year or so.
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Time: 15th October 2010 2:17pm

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BJ says...
If it has been consistently covered by water or the ground has been very boggy for some time, there probably isnt too much you can do. If the ground isnt completely waterlogged, you could try a Phosphorous acid product. I've heard that can help. If it is not too far gone, that is...

Time: 15th October 2010 2:31pm

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ann says...
Hi Cuong
As you can see our lychee tree is in full blossum. Unfortunately we did not realise it would spread so much so it had to be cut back to allow for mowing the lawn. Also my husband removed the lower branches to enable us to get up inside. The tree is about 4 - 5 metres tall and a couple of years ago he cut out the top as it was difficult to reach the fruit. It must have done it good as it has grown back and looks quite healthy. As I said before with water restrictions here in Perth both the lawn and the tree were not watered during the our dry winter months.


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Time: 22nd October 2010 3:08pm

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amanda says...
Ann - that is a beautiful tree!

Also - does your bore water have iron in it? (ie- the brown staining type?) What's your soil like - sandy, gravel etc? And do u feed it anything? Many thanks :)

Time: 22nd October 2010 5:51pm

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Jason says...
Seriously impressive. I didn't think lychees would grow that strongly in Perth. I'm not sure I want to even ask, but how old is that tree

Time: 22nd October 2010 6:04pm

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ann says...
Hi Amanda,

We live in the foothills of Perth and do not have brown staining from the bore water. Our block was once part of a citrus orchard and has sandy soil. Mainly I give it a feed of sheep poo twice a year. In the summer it gets some overhead water when the lawns are watered twice a week. Besides this my husband has attached a hose to a spike with holes in it below the ground and it is watered this way three times a week when he waters the vegetables.



Time: 22nd October 2010 7:04pm

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ann says...
Hi Jason

We planted it approximately 1986 but cannot remember what it was called but do know it was an Indian variety. I believe the Ag Department here in Perth tried to grow them without success. Perhaps we were lucky. I know we protected it well when it was young as we experience very strong easterlies here.

Time: 22nd October 2010 7:12pm

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Jason says...
:D well your lychee growing skills a patience deserves some kind of respect that's for sure!. My patience is wearing thin right now with a crazy ex farmer on the hill that spends the dusk hours cracking a whip shooting a shotgun in the air and cursing at the kangaroos I've spent years gaining the trust of. I don't know if I should ignore him, call him over and try and re educate him or run over there and hit him :S. But if I had a Lychee tree like that to lay under it could make ignoring him much easier!:)

Time: 22nd October 2010 8:20pm

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Cuong says...
Ann, that is a very impressive lychee tree!!! thank you for taking the time to post up a picture of it.

I have two Tai So/Mauritius that will hopefully grow that large one day...

Time: 22nd October 2010 11:08pm

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Julie says...
Our lychee fruit has set and the tree is loaded but there seems to be some type of grub borrowing into the young green fruit and destroying it, just wondering what I can spray the fruit with.

Time: 26th November 2010 6:54pm

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Wayne says...
I would suggest Lebaycid with a wetting agent Julie and do it asap, then weekly until they are almost ripe. I'm guessing they would be well matured by now so spray them now or loose them.

Time: 26th November 2010 7:08pm

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Julie says...
Thank you Wayne, I've added photos now, one of the fruit itself and the damage trail and the other of leaf and fruit, could this be erinose mites?
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Time: 26th November 2010 7:26pm

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Wayne says...
Certainly could be by the looks of it Julie
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5432.html

I had a similar problem with my young Lychee and had success by feeding it Sulphate of Potash. All the new leaves were being attacked as they came out and I almost lost the tree.

I found Aco-oil and Eco-neem mixed worked well.

Thanks for the photos Julie, I have learnt something here

Time: 27th November 2010 8:22am

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Mahomed says...
I have grown fantastic,high yielding Lychee tress fro the last 15 Years in Perth.Secrets are
1.No Wind/No Wind/No Wind
2.Shade in Hot Summer Months from Sunburn
3.Protect in Winter from Dew and Frost
also grow very well in Pots.
4.Never allow to Dry out.

Time: 4th December 2010 4:56pm

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amanda says...
Hi Mahomed - thanks for that info - in Glowinski's book he talks a bit about the weather needing to be cool and dry in autumn and warm and humid during flowering (and that cold, wet and rain can spoil fruit set)

The flowering requirements worried me (as our WA (S-West) springs don't seem quite right) - so it's great to hear your news! :)





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BL says...
Julie,

Looking at your pictures you have 2 problems the erinose mite in picture 1 and by the looks of it you may have the macadamia nut borer in picture 2. I Have the same problem and lost all fruit from these 2 along with bats this year. The borer causes early fruit drop of green fruit but you will find small holes with sawdust on the outside of larger ripening fruit. These will have the small grub inside. If you find out how to control them I would love to know. I have had no luck with organic sprays over the last few years so will be going for non chemicals this year.

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Shelley says...
Hi Cuong,
Have your lychee got fruit yet? I have just planted Tai-so as you. But I heard that the Mai we pink is better. So now i am worried that if my decision is right. Thx.

Time: 19th December 2011 12:41am

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Myrna says...
Could anyone tell me are Lychees considered an alkaline or acid within the food groups?

Time: 10th January 2012 4:30pm

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Nick says...
Id say lychees are more acidic Myrna :)

Time: 10th January 2012 6:18pm

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Myrna says...
Thanks for your reply; would this be because of their high Vitamin C content; if so would one be able to make this assumption with all fruit which is high in vitamin C for instance Rosella fruit?

Time: 11th January 2012 6:40am

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MaryT says...
The pH of an 'acidic' food may metabolise as an alkaline in the body so its effect is opposite to its pH before ingestion and digestion.

Time: 11th January 2012 7:30am

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Julie says...
Dead right Mary! Lemons seem to be acidic, but are one of the best alkalizing fruits.

Time: 11th January 2012 9:19pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Julie & Mary, Tomatoes act exactly the same. Acid on the cutting board then turn alkaline in the stomach. Makes me laugh when people tell me, "Oh, I can't eat tomatoes, they're too acid!"

Time: 12th January 2012 7:23am

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MaryT says...
Julie and Brendan; people are afraid of eating good food such as fruit because there are a lot of misinformation around and more people are being misguided now that anyone can post medical advice online. Sigh.

Time: 12th January 2012 7:37am

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john says...
Ok, Boys and girls. Acids don't turn into alkalis in "the body". Sadly the discussion has taken a wrong turn and we have people talking as if they knew a lot when their every utterance betrays startling ignorance. PS If you really must talk about this topic and I'm unsure why then acid are buffered in "the body" and a constant pH is maintained; buffering is done by two systems ,metabolic and respiratory.

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MaryT says...
Do enlighten us, John. I come on the forum to learn, not to dispense wisdom so it should not be too startling to anyone that my comments betray ignorance. :)

Time: 12th January 2012 8:50am

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john says...
It's a huge topic on which I spent an entire year once. Enough to say that what has been posted is way off target and is startling in its ignorance.

Time: 12th January 2012 8:58am

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Linh says...
It is a similar idea to the Chinese concept of some foods being "cooling" (eg bananas, oysters, tomatoes) and others "warming" - (milk, potatoes, brown rice). I'm sure someone will shoot me down in flames in the next post, ignoring thousands of years of personal experiences.

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MaryT says...
Very brave, Linh :) I grew up with that stuff from the older women of past generations so food as medicine is in my blood. I love it as part of my culture and heritage - I even believe it works but I must declare my ignorance of any scientific studies other than the trial and error of billions of people over thousands of years.

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Mike says...
In thailand,loas and surrounding countries fruit such as durian,lychees and longan are considering heating whereas watermelon or dragon fruit is considered cooling,even by educated people.I think there may be merit in balancing intake of the two groups but not because of 'heat'.In terms of acid/alkali intake or body pH sounds implausable to me.MaryT,I'm looking at Monday for the post.

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Mike; I look forward to it. Meanwhile I am eating supermarket lychees and they're not bad! Fiery according to the Chinese.

Time: 12th January 2012 8:58pm

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Mike says...
Mary T kwai may pinks 3.50 in the market today,mauritious 4.90,tai so 4.50, trashy old bengals 3.99 but the exquisite fai zee sui were not there.Longans and rambutans are just starting,durians are thin on and someone beat me to a beauty of a marang.I won't buy the poor quality ones.

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MaryT says...
Mike, stop making us jealous. Lychees are $6.95/kg at Woolies today (cheap for Sydney). I think they mix a variety (or at least two) of cultivars because the stones/pips are so different. Anyway they're enjoyable if not 'best ever'. I have a No Mai Chi which may fruit one day if I plant it at my grave :)

Time: 13th January 2012 9:22pm

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David says...
Hi Mary, i hate to be a show stopper but , i used to also have a no mai chi in the garden and after 4 yrs died overnight literally. Apparently lychees can do that on you its called sudden death. Hope you have better luck than i did .Regards David

Time: 13th January 2012 10:16pm

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amanda says...
Is this Rustys market Mike? what a great place it was even 15 odd yrs ago...a voyage of discovery for me at time... :)

That's depressing David. Is there a reason? I've not heard of it b4?

Time: 13th January 2012 11:20pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks for the encouragement David - NOT! Sudden death of lychees? You sure?

Time: 14th January 2012 7:33pm

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David says...
I read this in an old fruit book a number of years ago, it went o nto describe the fact thatfor no apparent reason lychees were under certain circumstances susseptable to some thing called sudden death. Cant remember if it was due to fungal root attack or poor nutrition

Time: 14th January 2012 10:57pm

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Peter says...
Amillaria root rot can kill young lychee trees suddenly - a problem fungi in well irrigated situations. Trees are described to wilt with clumps of honey coloured fungi appearing.
Did the tree die during wet cool weather, David? Don't know if Amillaria is a problem in Brisbane..

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amanda says...
Isn't Amillaria that mushroom? Could understand a root rot tho Peter..Lychee grow quite well here in the sand...so they must like 'sharp' drainage... :D

They are quite slow growing too? Mine is so like my jaboticaba - it really resents being "pushed" with too much fertiliser...? Just responds with burnt leaf margins and frazzled new growth.

When I get time I am going to make leaf mould for these guys...I reckon they would love it?

Time: 15th January 2012 1:56am

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MaryT says...
From what I read about 'sudden death' it seems the problem is more 'unforeseen' than 'sudden' and there is always a reason, fertiliser being one of them, drainage another... it's just that the problem was not recognised until it's too late. Sounds like they want an environment that is just so, Amanda.

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MaryT says...
Went to China recently to find the ancestral village and my grandparents' graves and took this photo of lychees growing well on loess hills - very loose yellow soil but fertile.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Perfect specimens. No sign of erinose mite or macadamia borer :-(


Time: 15th January 2012 11:33am

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Peter says...
Hi all,
good information about lychee growing on an American based website lychee.online.
It talks about the danger of over-fertilising, definitely something to avoid. It's better to keep soil organic, spread some old leaves and hope for some matching mycorrhizal fungi to colonise the roots - they will speed up the growth of the tree and protect from pathogens. If lucky, you might get them straight away when collecting some soil (with some litchi roots) from underneath an old litchi tree, but I would test the soil first for aggressive soil pathogens.
About Armillaria: It is a basidiomycetes, entering through roots and moving up inside the trunk, girdling the tree.


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Nick says...
That's very interesting Peter, would some homemade leaf mould suffice? I've never had any luck growing lychees- my salathiel died of over-fertilisation and my new bosworth is starting to show the same symptoms (plus a bit of sunburn).

Time: 15th January 2012 8:34pm

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Peter says...
Hi Nick,
I don't have experience with leaf mould, but might be nice for it.Just avoid any soil in there, otherwise your brew might be full of Pythium after a week - the damping off disease - it knocks out seedlings and is certainly not good for older trees either. I would just grow many lychee seeds and try out things on them before you risk your marcott.
Sometimes it all starts already with the parent tree, where propagators pick a shaded and/or horizontal branch for the marcotting - it will never turn out as nice as a perfectly healthy branch located in the right spot of the tree.
It's an advantage to know someone with an old tree and do your own marcot on it - then you know what you have.

Time: 15th January 2012 9:25pm

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Mike says...
It is pretty standard practice to get soil and leaf mulch from around existing lychees to inoculate new lychees planted with the correct mycorrhizal fungi.Some people say they don't need it because spores are all over them and develop in the marcot bag.I reckon over-fertilising with chloride loaded mixes, too close,in dry weather and unevenly kills alot more than lychee trees in back yards.Bosworth (kwai mai) and tai so have the lowest chill requirements and they all need dry conditions to stimulate flowering.

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Peter says...
I doubt the mycorrhizal fungi are already there in the marcot, except they use soil from underneath the parent tree. Maybe most would use spagnum moss instead?
Would you use samll amounts of slow release fertiliser from Osmocote, Mike? Does it kill the microflora?

Time: 15th January 2012 11:00pm

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Mike says...
I think once the microflora are established no fungicide or pesticides generally,chlorides or fertilisers will wipe them out.The soil must get loaded with spores and most newly planted lychees seem to acquire the microflora on their own.I would only lightly fertilise new trees lightly with organic types before introducing npk:mg(sulphates) beyond the dripline.

Time: 15th January 2012 11:13pm

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Peter says...
I wonder about the chances of introducing the right mycorrhizal fungi by cutting up some lychee roots - grown for about 1 year in potting mix - and sprinkling them around the planted lychee tree?

Time: 16th January 2012 12:33am

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Mike says...
I bet it would work especially in a bucket of water with watering straight afterwards.Cairns is just about the warmest place that lychees can be grown and they don't fruit every year even if they are big trees.On the east coast Sydney to Rocky would have to be the best zone for them.

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Myrna says...
Sorry to have sparked such a heated debate from my posting on 10 Jan; however if anyone is brave enough would there be any good books on the subject of food groups which might shed some light on my question. Thanks

Time: 19th January 2012 7:26am

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MaryT says...
Hi Myrna - don't be sorry; debate is good and most of us are robust enough for it :) Can't help you re book but if you're growing your own food you must be heading towards the right direction. Best to start a new thread though 'cause this one's on lychees.

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john says...
Myrna , go for a jog instead.

Time: 19th January 2012 9:15am

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MaryT says...
Myrna, you must have a sense of humour to survive in this forum :)

Time: 19th January 2012 11:04am

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amanda says...
That's interesting Mike and Peter. My Lychee has improved our of sight since following Mikes advice for my jaboticabas :)
Now it only gets blood n bone, seasol and rain water.

Tropical and semitropical plants always make me think of a forest that has loads of leaf litter and moisture..and very rich-organic soils..? A slow but steady amount of nutrients and moisture.

I have used fallen leaves (rinsed) and sphagnum moss as mulch on my semitropicals....it's been awhile now and they are very happy.

The spag moss looks like it's hosting a little bit of blue-green algae (a nitrogen fixer) and there is some mycorrhizal fungi growing in some tree sacks too...on the woodier parts of the mix.

I was using slow release osmocoate prior to this Peter...only small amounts - and it was giving my lychee, jaboticaba, longon burnt leaf margins. Don't know about the soil..but there was no wood eating fungus in the bags until after I switched to B&B.


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MaryT says...
Sounds like a good strategy, Amanda and I will follow suit!! Also when I eat supermarket lychees (no choice so far) I give the peels and seeds to my tree. My jacaranda also rain stuff on it.

Time: 19th January 2012 1:01pm

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Nick says...
Just bought some blood and bone today, would it be okay on my lychee- i really want to help it grow a bit faster :)

Time: 19th January 2012 5:48pm

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amanda says...
See above Nick :) Mike will know too? I am giving mine about a tablespoon B&B a month (a bit shy/nervous on the fert's with it) and seasol once a month too.

It's in a pot and is doing very well now. It's 3yrs old maybe - but still very small.

Take note: they do not seem to like being "pushed" too hard...?

Maybe more manure a better bet - if it's in ground?

Time: 19th January 2012 5:56pm

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Mike says...
The love thick mulch with wood and all sorts in it and frequent light B&B(or other mild organic ferts) applications extending beyond the dripline.If you are overcome by the need to give it proper NPK and micros for a boost put it well beyond the dripline andlet the roots go looking for it.This will also help expand the root system.Bad drainage and insufficient sunlight can stunt them.

Time: 19th January 2012 6:15pm

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helor says...
Just thought I'd share, my dad has had a lychee tree (we think its a bosworth 3) in his yard for 25 years and most years it puts out plenty of flowers but they fizzle and drop off in the high winds during spring in Perth. He also hasn't given it much love in terms of fertiliser or watering, although it seems to have found the local water table, so its ok in that respect. This year he decided to prune it, and perhaps because of the high rain and late coming summer heat, it has gone nuts with fruit.

This is about half the bounty so far, with a fair number also going to the local birds!
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Time: 23rd January 2012 3:48pm

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Peter says...
Thanks for that. Someone might be able to sort out the cultivar by looking at your picture.
Pruning has a positive effect on fruiting of lychee and is done while harvesting.

Time: 23rd January 2012 4:49pm

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Mike says...
Hello Helor,While pictures are sometimes deceptive it sure looks like the old standard tai so but not the mauritous form of it that is redder.Bosworth (kwai mai pink) is spherical,small,ripens to a paler colour,has very rough skin and lacks the 'rose' taste and 'shoulders' of tai so.

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Nick says...
I have to hand it to you amanda, the last week after the application of B&B (I used a tbsp too because theyre too expensive to lose) my lychee has literally exploded in ne growth- its the most I've ever seen a lychee grow! And no signs of burning!! I also put some crushed lychee peel around it like you suggested Mary :)

Time: 24th January 2012 7:29pm

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amanda says...
Ah Nick..you need to thank Mike - he actually put me onto it :) Glad to hear your experience the same - it's great when advice works all-round - regardless of where we are etc..

Time: 24th January 2012 7:49pm

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Peter says...
Great to hear your lychee is doing well.
Just keep in mind, that the nutrient uptake is very slow for lychee, so what you see now can not be the result from last weeks action.
Anyway, little and regular application is the way to go.

Time: 24th January 2012 9:16pm

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vivienne says...
Hi there! I had the most beautiful 3 year old lychee tree that produced an amazing crop this year. suddenly 3 weeks ago, every leaf turned brown and within 3 days the tree appeared to be dead. I have read that Lychees can have a sudden death and I am wondering whether the council sprayed the easement next to our house as some lilies also have a couple of lines of damage. My question though is whether I leave the tree and see if it recovers (every leaf is brown and it looks dead but perhaps its just the leaves) or whether when this happens its time to just give up and start again?


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Jason says...
I saw a guy from the council casually spraying roundup on the side of a footpath just yesterday with about a 40 km/h sidewind blowing. He was easily getting a 3 meter overspray all over everything including a couple of little dogs that were barking at him, pretty smart guy. I'm not sure about the Lychee, perhaps it got too wet recently?

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MaryT says...
All this talk of lychees made me hungry for it. My tree is STILL small so I bought some fruit and gave the tree the peels and seeds. It likes the offering and doubled in size then a dozen new seedlings appeared at its feet. Are they worth potting up? They're from Woolies.
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Liz says...
I've become obsessed with Lychees! Does anyone know if a lychee tree would grow in the Albury/Wodonga region? Cheers!

Time: 9th March 2012 9:39am

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tecko says...
My Woolies bought seed grown lychee flowered last year (after 4 years) around Oct/Nov (pic. 1) and with new flushes this year (pic. 2).
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Time: 9th March 2012 11:57am

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MaryT says...
Your Woolies lychee looks good! Any fruit? Trouble is I don't have room so the seedlings will have to go.

Time: 9th March 2012 2:55pm

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Simon says...
Hi Tecko,
Your 4-yr old lychee tree is very impressive. Are you in Perth metro area? Any secret tips? I have 3 lychee trees had trouble growing them in the ground as it seems to dislike the dry summer in Perth. So I grow them in large pots, seems to grow better. I must put up some pictures. So far I have not have any fruits, only flowers.
I didn't realise that Woollies sells lychee plants. Do you remember which woollies you bought it from?


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tecko says...
Hi Simon,
1.Yes, I'm in Perth metro area (willetton).
2. No, not lychee plants. I ate the fruit, then sprouted the seeds in a pot.
3. 1st 3 years, it was kept in a pot.
4. Gave it lots of water and sunshine.
5. Fertizers used: NPK, superphospate,urea.
6. then, transplanted onto ground.
7. Water every day (usu. twice)
8. Whenever I gutted fish, poured all the bloody (fish)water into the ground.
9. I remember once I poured in some unwanted leftover prawn soup in as well.
Well, thats about all I have done so far.

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elke says...
You need to sow the seed straight from the ripe fruit, if you let the seed dry out, it is killed. I tried it both way, if you put the seed straight into a pot after eating the fruit, the new little tree comes up in 2 to 3 weeks (depending on temperature). Good luck.

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Simon says...
Thanks for the info Tecko. I guess watering twice a day during summer make some differences. I wonder seedling plants tend to grow better than grafted once that supplied by nurseries.
Thanks agin.


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elke says...
Well John, I am happy to send you a handfull off fresh seeds to experiment with. Cheers, Elke

Time: 16th March 2012 10:15pm

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Ben says...
Elke, if I reimburse you may I be included? Are you in NSW?

Time: 17th March 2012 8:03am

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Mike says...
Seedling lychees rarely produce good quality fruit and often don't fruit at all.It can take 8 or more years for their first fruiting.Grafting of lychees is not easy and they are nearly always marcotted.

Time: 17th March 2012 8:25am

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MaryT says...
Hey John if it's lychee seedlings you want I have a number of volunteers that you can have but they may not be good for fruit for a long time... contact me at tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au

I always thought Woolies lychees were mixed types and from the look of the seedlings I'm right.

Time: 18th March 2012 9:10am

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john says...
Thanks MarY T but Elke and I have something else to transact.

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john says...
Elke, where art thou?

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elke says...
I am in Dunbogan, 400km north of Sydney (Camden haven area). And yes, Mike, it is a gamble with seedling trees, they might not produce what you are after (especially if you are trying to establish an orchard). But if you read the thread correctly, there are people that have had them fruiting after 4 years successfully. And 500 years ago, all trees were grown from seed. I am happy just to experiment. My seedlings were shop bought fruit from a local fruit store. John, if you still want some seeds, try to locate them in one of your local shops. As I said, they don't like to dry out and need to be sown immediately. If that fails, i am happy to scavenge the local shops for more fruit... Cheers, Elke

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john says...
Oh, I thought we were talking about Red Bayberry, Elke. Lychees I have aplenty.

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john says...
Does anyone know of Red Bayberry fruit or trees in Oz?

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Mike says...
john,a good friend of mine and his chinese wife will be going around bayberry country in southern china next week.I asked him to pop into that nursery that had them and the seedless lychee and also scour the markets for good quality bayberries.He is pretty reliable and if he brings me back some seeds I could get some to you.I may be too warm for them and I can alert you if I actually get seeds in hand.

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BJ says...
Yes, but only at the Nambour reserch station. There were videos on Youtube, but looks like they've been removed...

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john says...
Thanks , Mike. I'm even thinking of going myself.

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Mike says...
john, it will be a few weeks until he returns with a bounty of fine bayberry seeds if all goes to plan.I have also asked him to mail a selection of clean seeds back with the icon printout in a clipbag that is clearly labelled with the scientific name.We'll see what comes to pass.

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MaryT says...
Mike do you realise what John's offered for a swap? lol

Time: 20th March 2012 7:35pm

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Mike says...
Mary, I think there was no talk about a swap.The goods you are talking about were going to be for sale on the open market to raise the funds to purchase some seeds.It was more like jack and the beanstalk than 'trafficking'. A little 'loose talk' on the forum is not a bad thing.

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MaryT says...
Sorry, John. I have limited vocabulary. English is my second language. I'm an old woman who is tickled by the way young people 'speak' online and forgets myself sometimes. Sigh.

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MaryT says...
I am sorry I annoyed you. I mean it. It was thoughtless of me but I meant no malice. I will say no more; I promise.

Time: 21st March 2012 9:50am

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denise says...
I dont know if there will be lots of fresh seeds of bayberry in china anytime soon. One of my sources says the main harvest is in June.

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Mike says...
At the risk of spending more time on the issue,john, why such an over-reaction in those circumstances? Mary you should not withdraw or apologise in that situation.Your initial inference was funny not nasty.The apology should come from john.

Time: 21st March 2012 5:40pm

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Exactly Mike.

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Nick T says...
It appears that my lychee is under attack by quite a bit of scale, should I use some kind of horticultural oil or would a homemade detergent spray do the trick?

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John Mc says...
Either will work Nick. I use pestoil only because it's convenient. You could add a teaspoon of kitchen oil and a drop of detergent to a litre spray bottle if you don't have any commercial hort sprays at hand.

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asder says...
My experience with Pestoil is that it does work but it's like painting a wall with a toothbrush; you need to do it over several applications. Add a little malathion to give it some oomph.

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Cuong says...
Mike, since you are amongst the commercial lychee world of Australia I would like to ask you a couple of questions.

What do the commercial growers of lychee in your area do in terms of fertilizing lychee trees, when and what ? Lychees seem to be extreamely sensitive to fertilisers. Do they tip prune the trees like some people do to longans ?

Second questions is: I currently have two Tai So growing here in Perth and are doing extremely well, much better then my parents Bosworth 3/Kwai Mai Pink that is also older. I am considering planting a Fai Zee Sui to help with fruit set. Do you know if FZS would be any good with Perths warm climate?

Thanks in advance!!! And maybe it's easier for me to just move to Qld and buy an lychee orchard?!

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Cuong Lychees get big and are form pruned after fruiting but these days machine pruning tops and edges is a bit like tip pruning.They are fertlised with a good NPK with proportions similar to citrus blend as soon as the wet season starts.Don't put it close.Prunings should be used as mulch and routine organic fertilisers are used lightly through the year.Don't use inorganic ferts in the lead up to flowering or while fruit is on.I don't think they need cros pollination but see what google reckons.Your challenge will be getting the lychees to produce fruit in a med. climate.They do at the same latitude in Calif. so I would check that.
Perth is not warm even for lychees.That that are the biggest heat lovers with highest chill are tai so (mauritius),kwai mai pink and then FZS.

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Cuong says...
Thank you Mike for your reply. Yes you are right they don't need cross pollination. I will try and get hold of a FZS just out of curiosity.

So the way I read your answer Tai so needs more chill hrs than FSZ? Or is it the other way around.

Also when you refer to your wet season, what months are you referring to?

Time: 22nd November 2012 11:13pm

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Mike says...
Curong, the other way around.So long as you have a couple of nights a year that get down to 10c it is enough for these 3 types.If you have brisk winter weather and down to say 5c to 8c for alt least a couple of evenings it is even better.Where lychees come from and where they are commercailly grown in Australia there is a hot dry spring and the rainy season is summer and can extend into the start of autumn.By mediterranean climate I mean a 'west coast' dry summer, wet winter and temps that are moderated by sea in winter, like LA,Rome,Adelaide,Cape Town and Perth.

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BJ says...
Salathiel performs well in cooler weather, but it hates being pruned and will sulk and not fruit if pruned at any time other than the absolute optimal time. They are also delicious. Luckily they are quite 'dwarf' and dont need much pruning.

Time: 23rd November 2012 9:18am

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Mike says...
BJ they are a good one alright and have an interesting history.I still prefer 'concubine laughing' they they are not as good in cooler climates.I think California informstion would shed light on varieties and culture suitable for Perth.

Time: 23rd November 2012 9:39am

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Cuong says...
Went looking for FZS but none available, can get wai chi and Sah keng. Any opinions on these two?

Time: 23rd November 2012 6:49pm

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Nick L says...
Hi Nick,

I just potted my Bosworth 3 on December 2012.

After reading your postings, I am wondering how your lychee tree is doing? Is the B and B continuing its wonderful effect?

Time: 28th January 2013 6:08pm

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Brain says...
by 'potted', can I assume it's grown in a pot? I'm trying to figure out if the big tree varieties such as Fai Zee Sui would do well in a pot. Or if anyone had success at growing lychees in pots, i.e. potted tree to fruit given it's grown in an average sized say 30 to 40 cm pot/bonsai bags. thanks.

Time: 29th January 2013 2:05pm

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Linton says...
Lychees in pots with fruits.

In Police Road here they are growing many Dwarf Lychees in pots and producing fruit. They don't identify that they are a particular cultivar. They are just labelled as Dwarf Lychee growing to abut 2 metres tall.

Hope that is of help.

Time: 31st January 2013 12:48pm

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Steven says...
Hi everone how are you all?

Does anyone know where i can find dwarf lychees? I am thinking of growing some in a large greenhouse, not sure how bug they would grow as a dwarf but definitely worth looking into.

whats better than cool refreshing lychees on a hot summers day :)

Time: 17th March 2013 8:40pm

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Linton says...
Hi Steven

As mentioned above you can get dwarf Lychees from the tropical fruit nursery in Police Road, Mulgrave. They claim that they grow to about 2 metres high.

Time: 18th March 2013 9:06am

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vlct says...
My wai chi has formed brown tipped leaves over it's for winter.. is this wind burn ?
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amanda says...
It looks burnt vict..? What have u been feeding it..?
It could be salts in your water, or fertilisers..?
Or has it been fertilised and not watered properly/sufficiently maybe..?

Just my experience - but I only use organic slow release fertilisers on all my sub tropicals now (and organic matter like manure, straw etc of course...?)
They only grow slowly (especially in our cooler climates maybe..) I have never been able to force mine along..?

Are u near the beach where u are in Glenelg..?

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vlct says...
Good morning Amanda.. I only use well composed pig manure. And sprinkle of complete trace elements. I'm only 3 km from the ocean.. the foliage was a bright green all year until a month ago when the tips turned brown. Fast ..
I've just installed rain water tank so il giv all my subs rain water over summer and see how that goes.
Have u fruited lyches in Perth...
Thanks..

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Russ says...
Hey there Lychee people. Does anyone know were i can get a Lychee tree from in WA? So far i have found Tass1 have B3, but wondered if anyone knows of others selling alternative varities.
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Time: 10th September 2013 3:55pm

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Kim says...
Hey Russ

Blooming Nursery in Jandakot has a few different cultivars last time I was there last year. My Tai So came from there.

Time: 6th November 2013 9:20pm

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Brain says...
vlct, was your winter a bit hot and drier than normal?

Mine wai chee had the same problem but proceeded to lose 90% of its leaves. However, a good watering regime and the more humuid conditions of late in Brisbane has seen them stablised.

Time: 7th November 2013 11:57am

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Anonymous says...
My bosworth is starting to get new growth after having shit the bed on a really hot day. Have moved it to a sheltered spot, have it next to the achacha now.

Time: 7th November 2013 12:26pm

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BJ says...
Any young lychee trees are going to hate the recent weather across most of the country. Up side is that the established trees love it. Trees around here are loaded with small fruit and freak storms notwithstanding we should have some decent crops this year after last years sub par performance around here...

Time: 7th November 2013 7:11pm

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Anonymous says...
Yeah, terrible rain fall thus far. Long term projections don't look super promising either...maybe a little drizzle on saturday/sunday followed by rain dumps in late december/ january.

Time: 7th November 2013 7:28pm

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Mike Tr says...
The prediction for nearly all Australia is for Nov. to the end of Jan. to be extra hot and dry.

Time: 7th November 2013 7:30pm

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Anonymous says...
I think I just heard the water delivery man rubbing his hands together...

The irony here is that I live literally 20 seconds from one of brisbane's main dams, and yet I'm on tank water.

Time: 7th November 2013 7:32pm

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Mike Tr says...
The water delivery folk and ice companies will no doubt be hi fiving and fist pumping after looking at the BOM 3 month rain and temp outlooks.

Time: 7th November 2013 7:42pm

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John Mc says...
It's shockingly dry here too, just north of Sydney. Nothing/ nada since July. Bought two loads of water for the house with nil rain in between loads. Nearly ready to buy a third. Dam empty, saved by a brief 10mm downfall two weeks ago, nearly empty again. Everything's on water ration just to keep them alive. Poor old Loquats, barely alive, let alone flower. Not happy at all, me also.
On a brighter note, good rain is predicted in the next couple of days, after a stinker tomorrow, yeay!

Time: 7th November 2013 9:53pm

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BJ says...
Mike, that's depressing news. The two half decent storms of the last month both dumped mostly on the south side and coasts, nothing much here, so my yard is a dust bowl with billy goat tracks to boot. Didn't most of the country just have a record breaking quarter in terms of temperature and lack of rain?

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David says...
Hi all, BJ that dump you referred to consisted of 8mm here,just enough to wet your whistle.

Time: 8th November 2013 6:51am

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MaryT says...
It's very dry here in North Sydney as well but the forecast has promised a few days of rain. Waiting...

Meanwhile, do I have fruit on my lychee? I am trying hard not to get excited, but failing.


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David says...
Hi Mary, don't give up rain on the forcast.

Time: 8th November 2013 8:58am

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John Mc says...
Mary, you have fruit because of lack of rain, same here, probably the best crop ever if I can keep them alive.

Time: 9th November 2013 9:13pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks John Mc; unfortunately they have all dropped off!

Time: 9th November 2013 9:22pm

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Dr Fruit says...
Plant seed within 3-4 days of picking, very short viability.


Time: 19th January 2014 7:30pm

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JanL Brisbane says...
I have just noticed my lychee tree has yellow leaves. Never seen that before. I live in Brisbane.

janL Brisbane.

Time: 20th February 2014 10:11am

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Anne says...
Ann, you could try putting a sprinkler up in your lychee tree (they like humidity) and also digging a small trench next to it, for all your veggie scraps, to encourage it to bear well every year.

Time: 11th November 2014 3:55am

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Waterfall says...
Can I get some opinions on Bosworth 3 (kwai mai pink) versus Salathiel lychee trees?

My climate is somewhat marginal being in Sydney, we are 7km from the coast and just over 200m above sea level and we don't get frosts.

From what I have read the later varieties are better for marginal climates, B3 is mid season, Salathiel is late.

I don't have space for a huge tree but I don't want something that will grow incredibly slow either, I already have a Wai Chee and it is incredibly slow. I think a B3 would be much more vigorous and could be kept smaller with pruning. On the other hand the Salathiel is somewhat a dwarf tree and would not outgrow its position any time soon.

Then there is taste and productivity. Sounds like a Salathiel is superior in taste however can be an irregular bearer but this is not said to be the case in cooler climates.

I can get a B3 of about 1.2m tall locally, I would have to order a Salathiel through Daleys and it would be considerably smaller I think, probably half that size.

Thoughts?



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Brain says...
B3 also quiet slow, took 5 years to grow to a meter and beared a single fruit. However, it was on clay and was not that well looked after, so it is fairly tough. It been like 10 years in ground now and starting to reach 2 m tall and a spread of 1m diameter.

Salathiel, had one and died. They need a bit of pampering. Just brought a replacement. It is a fairly small plant, prob 70 cm tall and mostly sticks. To be honest, i was disappointed when i open the box.

You will really test your patience with lychee.

Its a tough call.



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Waterfall says...
Thanks Brian.

Time: 10th February 2015 2:00pm

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Waterfall says...
I purchased a Kwai Mai Pink yesterday, around 1.2m tall from Canley Vale. I'm thinking of planting it with a Salathiel in the same hole, a few people have been doing this on the TF forum with good results.



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sternus1 says...
Those people are floridians.

Time: 13th February 2015 9:22pm

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Waterfall says...
It seems to be a reasonable way to keep the trees smaller. Either way I don't see it as a huge gamble, I have lots of other fruit to eat if these two lychee trees fail.

Time: 13th February 2015 10:57pm

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Brain says...
I remember my previous salathiel being very compact, like a narrow drinking glass. So you can probably get away with a small corner by itself.

I too would love to grow a few more vars, just wish i had the space.

Time: 15th February 2015 12:03pm

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MIke T1 says...
In Briz the Chinese water lychees like no mai chee and Wai chee or even Haak yip would the suited to the climate.The tropical hill lychees like Tai so,fai zee sui and Kwai Mai pink would prefer a warmer climate.Salathiel should be well suited to Briz.

Time: 15th February 2015 9:53pm

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Brain says...
Mike you have named all the vars i want to grow, now if the lotto gods would answer my ticket ...

The wai chee is pretty tough, but those 35 deg days in summer does knock the tree back.

Time: 16th February 2015 1:43pm

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sternus1 says...
You know daleys will be selling seedless a2 lychee in a couple of years, right? It is considerably better than anything else available right now.

Time: 16th February 2015 4:16pm

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Brain says...
Sternus, i am old school and dont mind the seeds lol. But the test would be in the taste. Has anyone actually tried a a2?

Time: 16th February 2015 8:13pm

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Brain says...
Need some help folks, my new salathiel suffered severe shock in transit from daleyand basically all leaves turned brown and fell off. Any tips on bringing it back?

Time: 20th February 2015 6:13pm

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ivepeters says...
Just the usual standby, seasol.
Keep it moist and sheltered.
Hope it comes back for you.

Time: 20th February 2015 7:11pm

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MIke T1 says...
The seedless will be better than all those currently available including fai zee siu in a few ways.
Don't over water a sick lychee and don't roast it in the sun.

Time: 20th February 2015 7:36pm

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Brain says...
Thanks, will move it out of the rain. Fingers crossed.


Time: 21st February 2015 1:47pm

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sternus1 says...
Brain I reckon you're better of keeping the shaded until they're at least a metre high and have bushed out. They have among the most sensitive young leaves I've experienced. Sapodilla is close but not as bad.

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Julz_T says...
Hi all! Really interesting reading on this thread! I've learnt so much already!
My new lychee has been in the ground just a few months and the leaves have started to turn yellow over a few weeks. It still looks strong with no leaves drooping at all. There are also some ants nests at the base of the trunk. I'm wondering if it's deficient in something or if it could be the ants are a problem?

I am in Far North Qld, not sure of my soil type.
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Fruitman says...
I am just a beginner wanting to grow some tropical fruit trees in Melbourne. Has anyone try going lychee successfully in Melbourne? I am also keen to plant some of the tropical fruits such as longan, custard apple, paw paw, etc. I look forward to your input.

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Steven says...
I havent tried Lychee, it would be interesting to see if people have been successful. I have successfully grown bananas but the papaya didnt do much. The issue i found is that they would grow in Jan to March but then die back in winter and take a long time to recover. The banana's died back in winter too but being basically a herbal weed the second the weather warms up the jump back. You could try growing them outside near a north facing wall during summer in a pot and then bring them inside once the weather starts to cool. That might prevent them from their stems dying back.

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Fruitman says...
Thanks Steven for your input. I will try planting the lychee tree in a pot and then take it inside the house during the winter month. On this forum, Linton mentioned to you to check out the draft lychee tree at Police Road, Mulgrave back in Mar 13. Did you end up going there or by any chance know the street no. or the name of the nursery for me to check it out? I don't mind going there to check them up.

I am trying to grow the tree from seeds but based on my reading at this forum, some say it may grow into a tree but may not get fruits. If that being the risk, then it might not worth the effort to grow it from seeds. What is your thought on this?

Thanking you in anticipation.

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Nobita says...
Hi All,

Would like to grow a lychee tree in my backyard in Box Hill North.

Any suggestions on success rate?

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Nobita

Good news for you. Yes you can definitely grow lychee in Box Hill, Vic.

Now the bad news. It is extremely hard to get it to fruit unless you have heated greenhouse or a poly tunnel.

The background. Lychees like a cool conditions to initiate flowering but, not below 10C or flowering will be compromised (dropped), -2C and the young lychee will die though mature trees can withstand such freezing temp.

During flowering daily average temp should not exceed 20C for successful fruit set, that is from (Sept-Feb). Any frost during flowering (Aug-Oct) will adversely effect (drop) flowering.

Situate them in a wind and frost free site because they very susceptible to both. A north-east aspect is the best position for lychees.

So if you are still planning to plant a lychee in Box Hill and you don't have a greenhouse or a poly tunnel plant your lychee to a northern aspect close to a brick wall or similar structure to capture heat during winter. Surround it also with big rocks covered with black plastic for extra warmth. Another technique is to plant it in a metal drum near a north facing wall again for extra warmth. One more thing that you can do is to construct a portable mini greenhouse that can be installed around your plant with frost cloth or a thick plastic but not touching any part of the plant to be effective. You use it during forcasted frosty nights. Remove during warmer days. After 3 years you can totally remove it. By then the plant will have been acclimatized.

But if you are living in Box Hill near Sydney you don't need any of these because lychee will certainly grow to fruition in that part of Australia.

Goodluck and Happy Gardening :-)

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Jackieg says...
Hi there, I hve a very very large lychee tree that dropped a huge amount of fruit this year we had probably 1/2dozen that were worth eating. We don’t really worry about the fruit as the tree was there when we boil it the house it’s the shade for the front yard that we enjoy. We have been in this house four years now and have never noticed this tree have this huge amount of fruit on and also the amount of leave this tree have dropped is enormous the whole front yard is massed in dropped leaves

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denise1 says...
It would help if you send a photo of the lychee tree and an average photo of the affected leaves. Lychees can decline quite easily and it is not uncommon and someone may recognise the symptoms in the photos

Time: 19th January 2019 10:29am

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evg1 says...
Hi all,
Please help me identify the problem with my lychee tree.
I planted this lychee tree 2 weeks ago and it was looking fine until several days ago. All leaves suddenly curled, lost color and look like dried bay leaves.
I am sure that tree was watered well and regularly every few days. Soil in the hole is well draining potting mix similar to one it came with, it was slightly wet when I checked. Roots look OK - no sign of rot.
It got a bit cold at nights here in Western Sydney but still nowhere near freezing.
What could be the cause? I still want to have lychee tree and want to avoid another one dying.
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Time: 29th April 2019 8:55am

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David01 says...
Hi evg1 ,

This time of the year, temp is not the cause. Lychee prefers soil PH 5.5 to 6.5 and does not like fertilizer even small dose when it is young. I suggest you to change the potting mixed in the pot. Select the low PH mixed but no fertilizer. Hope that it is not too late. Cheers

Time: 30th April 2019 11:16am

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Markmelb says...
When you repot observe the roots and if they arnt white and healthy looking you have a root problem and the top shows it - it may have severely dried out but may take quite a while to show regrowth if some part of it is alive below - I had a lemon in a pot that had a drip nozzle issue and lost all leaves - i gave a trim and regrew slowly and still fruiting in same pot 10 years later. Its off the ground and worms cant ruin the potting mix.

Time: 2nd May 2019 8:50am

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evg1 says...
Hi David,
Really appreciate your response!
I started suspecting fertilizer too, I attached new photo which looks more like typical burn. I used 'citrus and roses' potting mix as I was planting an orange tree at them same time. I will check its pH next time I am at garden center.
Would you recommend digging out the tree and completely replace the potting mix or let the tree stay and hopefully adapt? What is less stressful for the tree at this stage?
Thanks again!
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Time: 2nd May 2019 2:55pm

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Markmelb says...
I use a 9 month slow release on my potted lychees i got last year and they look great - im only potting up gradually just once per year. pic of B3 on left i got for its precociousness and Red Ball on the right just to try it - B3 will do better here i believe as they fruit early and they have fruited them in Adelaide.
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Time: 3rd May 2019 8:19am

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David01 says...
Hi evg1,

First you need to remove all the dead branches and leaves to reduce stress for the root system. Next step is to replace completely new potting mix and water well. Keep it in the shade. As winter is around the corner you need to get it under the cover or inside. It may recover next spring if it is not too late. Cheers.

Time: 3rd May 2019 9:53am

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Aaronkoe says...
Hi all,

I am so pleased to find this forum with a wealth of experienced Lychee growers.

I am not familiar with this type of tropical fruit but the wife just had to have it.

I brought it home very healthy, far as i can tell. Then we had prolonged periods of rain and standing water, followed by prolonged drought.

Leaves turned brown during the raining events, and then almost completely fell off during the drought.

Now it seems like the tree is happy again based on all the new growth the tree is putting out.

My concern is a lot of the new growth has pointy tips that dont seem normal. Some of the new growth on top looks just like the parent leaf, and then most of the other growth looks different.

Would appreciate any advice

Thank you.
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Time: 2nd July 2020 6:34am

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David01 says...
Hi Aaronkoe,

Your Lychee looks like got white mite. see attached link for more info. Cheers.

http://agropedia.iitk.ac.in/content/litchi-mite

Time: 3rd July 2020 1:19pm

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