Mango Trees Flowering in June (forum)

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Hi, our rather large mango trees here in the perth metro area have begun to grow panicles and flowers and its only June

should I be cutting these panicles off?

thanks

Time: 7th June 2015 10:07pm

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Slicko says...
There were reports of flower panicles appearing in the mango plantations in the Northern Territory over a month ago and the growers were really happy about that. I don't know how your climate compares with the NT but it might be worth doing a bit of checking out before you remove the panicles. I read somewhere recently that flower panicle emergence may be related to the time of last pruning.

My tree has yet to flush in Brisbane. I am unaware if the different varieties would be early, mid season or late and that may also be a factor. Perhaps someone with more mango knowledge can offer advice.

Time: 7th June 2015 10:30pm

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David says...
Perhaps I can help ,sometimes one tree in the carina area along meadowlands rd flowers abundantly, don't know the cultivar but looks similar to KP, but the leaves are different.My Kwan wont be long before it starts to send out panicles, also the florigan can somertimes be early the trouble with early flowering early in Brisbane is the cold morning temps, anything below 10c and fruit will abort, due to unfertilized embryo. Whenever this happens I always pull them off and they reflower weeks later when the morning temps have risen.

Time: 8th June 2015 8:16am

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MIke T1 says...
Plenty of trees have flowers in my neck of the woods now.Pugging is a practice that you can get carried away with.

Time: 8th June 2015 9:11am

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David says...
I told a big porky, just went down the back of the garden and spied 1 flowering mango, Palmer just 1 flower 4ins long, kwan has buds swelling, not broken through yet.

Time: 8th June 2015 2:50pm

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Juneli says...
My Nam Doc Mai which is under 1 metre has pushed out a large panicle and has numerous little mangoes on it. Bought it from Daley's around six weeks ago and still in little pot along with Kwan, Valencia Pride, Artulfo and Florigon. My two KPs here in Mackay always flower later than other trees around us which are in bloom now. This winter I will spray with Calcium Nitrate to speed them along and get a bigger crop.

Time: 8th June 2015 4:18pm

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David says...
There you go the tyranny of latitude on your side, the further north the better it gets.So im told.

Time: 8th June 2015 5:19pm

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Markmelb says...
Not Totally latidude related David - see my NDM on my edibles page - was flowering a month ago and let it go for a couple weeks - it did flower but didnt like cold - parts were going black so removed. Another formed on another branch and cut half off and started spraying with copper spray to stop any Anthracnose and still looks ok - only an experiment till spring comes when i will really let it flower - My 2y/o Palmer still has a 1kg+ mango on it slowly reddening - will pick whent shows more colour - Love to know where I can get Calcium Nitrate? :)

Time: 8th June 2015 5:34pm

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David says...
Hi Markmelb, your collection is remarkable, Palmer is considered a late variety, truly yours is a late late late variety. Well done. Up here in Brissie NDM will often throw out flowers to, but because of the cold nights dosnt often set till later in the year. Do you shelter your tender plants.

Time: 8th June 2015 5:39pm

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Waterfall says...
My khiew savouy set 2 small fruit last month here in Sydney, they dropped off though not long after as it got colder.

Time: 8th June 2015 6:18pm

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Markmelb says...
David - I have some crop protection cloth on North side of house to creat a micro climate for Lychee and Sapodilla - but we are getting 30 - 40kt North Westerlies that rip down East side of house at present - plants are handling ok but need protection when its 40c plus.
South wind protection quite good with a 2.5mt brick wall - garden only getting turbulence then. In fact we had better weather than Toowoomba today - there ya go :)

Time: 8th June 2015 6:24pm

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Brain says...
I can also report that my NDM has flowering pinnacles. It's the 2nd one in autumn/winter. Very weird. Don't think I will get any mangos from it though.

Time: 8th June 2015 11:54pm

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Juneli says...
Markmelb I bought the calcium nitrate from Bunnings. It is in a box called Hydrangea Pinking by Manutec. There are two pkts. In the box and the white powder one is the calcium nitrate 300grms. You are only supposed to use the calcium nitrate on older mango trees not the young small ones. My KPs are quite large now and would benefit from it. I believe the application rate is 10grms per litre spraying both leaves and wood. Then a second application a few days later. Only spray on days when rain is not forecast.

Time: 9th June 2015 4:31pm

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Markmelb says...
Thanks Juneli - glad I dont have to source the potassium one as now very restricted - dont need to make fireworks anymore - I have a 15 year old KP i may try it on - how long after spraying do you see flower growth?

Time: 9th June 2015 6:15pm

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Juneli says...
Sorry Markmelb but that ratio of powder to water may not be correct. I read that spraying tomatoes for flower end rot was 4 tablespoons per gallon which works out to be around 1 tablespoon per litre. Anyway that is the one I am going to use. It is recommended that you spray early morning or late afternoon if sunny. Preferably an overcast day would be ideal so as not to burn the leaves. You may see some action happening around 10-14 days afterwards.

Time: 11th June 2015 1:34pm

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lloyd of perth says...
Hi All, much colder and wetter down here in perth, still in the early stages of winter, surely way to cold and wet for mangos right now....??

Time: 13th June 2015 9:22pm

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Markmelb says...
Hi Lloyd - what minimums are you getting? I have about a 1kg Palmer on a 2yo plant waiting for a bit more colour - ive picked and eaten my KPs but this one is very late and still hanging on - Cut Mango and seed is the KP - may not get a huge crop here in Melbourne but they taste pretty good
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Time: 13th June 2015 10:14pm

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lloyd of perth says...
I'm in jandakot so minimum get down to about 3-5 degrees some mornings, daytime temp have been pretty reasonable though low 20's

Time: 14th June 2015 10:24pm

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mojo says...
I am glad i am not the only one surprised around here,i was looking for one of my missing chooks and checked under my biggest KP as that is where they all usually hide and not only found the chook but heaps of new panicles that are just opening, that was the last thing i expected to find as it is only June.
So i checked my smaller Mango trees i have planted around my block and found that the Banana, Valencia Pride, R2E2,
Florigon etc etc, and a couple of smaller KP's are all doing the same, so it looks like most of them have lost the plot and not just the larger KP which was full of leaf flush only a 3 or 4 months ago, i know this winter has been mild so far but i did not expect flowering this early.
I was considering cutting the flowers of
as suggested in one of Daley's video's and hoping it would flower again later when there is less chance of excess rain, but with so many of the trees starting the flowering process i guess i will just have to "go with it" and hope for the best and reschedule my carefully planned out fertilizing program to start now!!

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Time: 6th July 2015 4:12am

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Markmelb says...
Hi mojo - Your getting nice flushes already - what are your night temps?
What waterng do you do and do you only have tank water where you are?
Also try taking some - not all pannicles off and see if another lot grow in a couple months?

Time: 6th July 2015 8:31am

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mojo says...
Sorry Markmelb that was earlier photo from the end of last summer which was only a few moths ago believe it or not,some new one's taken this morning should be here (i hope)
Night time temps are around 5c at the moment and day time around 20-25c, none of my 20 odd mangoes are on retic as i learned that lesson several years ago when i forgot to turn it off in winter and they all got anthracnose when they flowered and i lost most of my crop so now they get watered by hand most of the time so i can check to see how dry the soil is.
I use bore water only on all my tree's and plants around the block which is also drinkable so no problems there, and i mulch big time (very important i cannot believe how much better they have grown with mulch)and i use pea straw and the occasional sea weed if i get motivated to go down the beach as plenty of mulch traps the water in and i give them one big drink instead of lots of smaller one's as the mulch keeps the ground damp for several days in summer and it appears to attract a lot of worms as well so it must be a good thing, i even use news paper if i get a lot laying around and mix in the sweeping of the floor in the chook pen occasionally so it all adds up.
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Time: 8th July 2015 4:16pm

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mojo says...
I also forgot to mention i got a 25kg bag of Calcium Nitrate yesterday from CRT (local farm supplier) in Geraldton for $24 if anyone in WA is looking for any try CRT.
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Time: 8th July 2015 4:48pm

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Markmelb says...
Hi mojo - Thats a huge bag of Ca(NO3)2 for $24 - will have to get the pinking kit as dont need that much.
Whats the Mango in pic6 with the gigantic pannicle?
My Nam Doc Mai has suffered with some 5c temps so now bring in at night - wasnt affected last winter and cant remember if I brought in or not but will be cutting back some of last summers good growth - such a shame but a couple stems are not black and may flower.
The Palmers newest stems are quite red and unaffected by same cold events.
My old grafted KP is quite unaffected but a seedling Bowen gets hit on a cople stems but not all - too big now to bring in - LOL

Time: 9th July 2015 12:13am

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mojo says...
Hi Markmelb
I don't need that much either at the moment LOL but i have a lot more smaller mango trees around the place so hopefully when they get bigger it will get used.
Picture 6 is a grafted Florigon which was planted about 2 months ago

Time: 9th July 2015 8:15am

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