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HI my miracle fruit was growing some small fruits very slowly and now they have just dried up and died and the plant isnt looking too good either, it is sitting under shade by 50% shade cloth half the day and full sun the for about 3 hours, has anyone got any ideas or had this problem too?

Time: 3rd September 2009 6:58pm

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Wendy P. says...
Give it full sun in winter,and also in these September early spring days,as the sun is so very weak.
Keep the humidity up high,with containers of water and a 300 mm layer of mulch.
Soils should be acid, and shelter from winds is beneficial.
Or have you been doing this already?


Time: 3rd September 2009 7:32pm

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HappyEarth says...
My miracle fruit is fruiting like crazy and is in shade nearly the whole day. It gets a bit of early morning sun and thats it. When ever i've moved it out for a bit more sun (even in winter) the leaves start drying up and dropping off.

As wendy said, make sure your soil or potting mix is acidic and if its in a pot bring it indoors during winter otherwise its going to look pretty sad at this time of year with the cold and wind you get there in perth.

Rich
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Time: 4th September 2009 6:46am

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aneh says...
i did try to put it in some stronger light a while ago and it didnt like it at all the leaves went a bit brown and looked like it was going to die if i left it there, i used to have it under shade cloth always after that, and it went fine until recently i have had to move it on the side of a patio where its only half covered by the shade cloth and its not happy now.ive not used water in buckets or mulch for humidity, its fairly well sheltered from wind. and as for the potting mix i have no idea what the PH is its just coles brand mix it looks rich and good.
Have i missed out this year or might it start to grow fruit again i was really looking forward to trying this fruit?
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Time: 6th September 2009 3:50pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hey Aneh, my experience with growing miracle fruit the last few years is that they can fruit anytime of year ... especially if you bring it inside during winter.

Rich
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Time: 7th September 2009 5:21pm

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aneh says...
AH ok i guess ill just cross my fingers and hope for another batch, thanks mate

Time: 7th September 2009 9:04pm

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Rich says...
Hi Aneh,

I'm in Perth too and have been looking for a miracle fruit tree. Where did you get yours from?

Thanks in advance,
Richard.

Time: 25th January 2010 11:51pm

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gemma says...
YUCK! After three years of expectation, my tiny (30cm) miracle tree grew masses of beautiful red berries. They taste fine on their own but oh my goodness the sicky sweet after-taste is something else. What a crazy plant.

Time: 6th March 2010 10:09pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Gemma any chance of getting some seeds? Could swap for a Rollinia, Finger lime plant, Canistel, Peanut tree or something. Always wanted to try the miracle fruit. Thanks.

Time: 6th March 2010 10:20pm

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John Mc says...
Hey gemma,
They're on their own if you buy some bland peaches or nectarines from the fruit shop. We bought some practically inedible peaches recently. One miracle fruit berry and those peaches turned into the most flavoursome peach I've ever tasted.
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Time: 6th March 2010 10:24pm

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John Mc says...
I can oblige you there Phil@Tyalgum, I have plenty.
The nursery near me has very mature trees (Guessing 5+ years of age)mature fruit hanging off them. They're asking $50 per tree. Not bad for a miracle fruit tree about 1 meter high.

Time: 6th March 2010 10:27pm

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gemma says...
Thanks John! I'll give it a go.
Phil I would love to do a swap and can either dry some and put them in the post, or plant them... I'll be down your way in about a month. I would love a rollinia, finger lime AND canistel (greedy!). Just trying to think of what I can swap in return. At the moment, heaps of native raspberry suckers, lilly pilly fruit, ice cream beans. A big pink frangipani next door about to be chopped down (I'm going to plant lots of branches)... do you need anything like that?

Time: 6th March 2010 10:33pm

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Julie says...
I would love some seeds too, but I don't really have any seeds to swap. Would some one like to sell me some? I will also pay for postage, of course.

It would be great to be able to drink lime or lemon juice with no sugar.

Time: 7th March 2010 7:10pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Thanks for the offer John, yes they seem to be a bit pricey. I looked at some smallish specimens at Tropical Fruit World and they also wanted $40 each. Will try my luck with seed I think.

Time: 7th March 2010 7:17pm

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John Mc says...
Hey Julie,
I'm happy to send some, but what restrictions are there to send Miracle fruit seeds to WA? Fresh or seed only? I've read a lot on this forum and Ebay about it. I suppose they have their reasons for restricting certain, looks like all, vegetative material.

Time: 7th March 2010 8:56pm

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Julie says...
John, thanks for the offer. I have a list from somewhere about banned plants/seeds and will have a look.

It is still possible to buy a lot of seeds from other states, but a lot seem to be forbidden also. I'll check it out and let you know.





Time: 8th March 2010 4:11pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi HappyEarth,

My miracle tree had 4 fruits when I bought it 2 months ago. It is flowering now. May I please ask if I have to do hand polinating or 'BUZZ polinating' to get fruits set.

It has been very healthy, green leaves. I water the tree with miracle grow fertilizer once a week. It is permanently inside the lawndry with glass window. Please let me know if anything else I need to do apart from what I have done so far.

Many thanks in advance.

Lucy.

Time: 8th March 2010 8:26pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hey Lucy, no they are self-pollinating so you dont have to do anything there. Giving the tree a shake may help with spreading the pollen around a little if not exposed to any wind.

Good luck!

Rich
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Time: 9th March 2010 3:26pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Happyearth,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated.

I worried that the plant is being inside the house with no bees it may never set fruits but I am much happier now.



Time: 9th March 2010 3:47pm

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Julie says...
John Mc, I have tried to find out about bringing seed into WA, but can't make sense of it. One site mentioned miracle fruit seed, with a column that said '16', but no reference to what 16 might mean. Aaaagh!

Time: 10th March 2010 7:41pm

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Jimmy says...
Regulation 16, must be free from weed seeds and be of a permitted species.

Time: 11th March 2010 8:21am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Jimmy do you know of a website which lists prohibited plants, or even better, those which are permitted? I sell a few things on eBay and haven't really been able to get clarification. I always tell the bidder to check their state import conditions. Thanks.

Time: 11th March 2010 10:02am

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Julie says...
Thanks Jimmy, but I wanted to know if it IS a permitted species. I just couldn't work it out.

Time: 11th March 2010 2:31pm

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gus says...
I saw a miracle fruit tree at the garden show in Perth

Time: 14th April 2010 10:37pm

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gus says...
Joe at Tass1Trees told me last saturday that he was getting in miracle fruit trees this week for anyone who is still interested

Time: 1st May 2010 12:50pm

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john says...
Hey gus did you get a taste of the fruit, joe gave me a taste and wow it really works i tried 1 and he gave me a lemon to taste. He`s got a 6ft tree in fruit now..


Time: 5th May 2010 9:15pm

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gus says...
No, I have tried them in tablet form though. They are amazing aren't they? Do the fruit themselves actually taste nice?

Time: 6th May 2010 9:26pm

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carl says...
are any places in perth selling the miracle fruit plants ?

Time: 26th July 2010 12:24pm

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Brad says...
did you try Tass 1? pretty good bet and joe is great

Time: 26th July 2010 2:15pm

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sampa says...
Gemma,
Do you still have some frangipani cuttings left?

Time: 28th July 2010 10:36am

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gemma says...
Hi Sampa, yes I have frangipanis galore! Both white and pink. I could send you a couple of small branches if you like. Though they're pretty easy to propagate if there are any in your neighbourhood, just break a branch off, wait a couple of days for it to dry out, and stick it in a pot. If there aren't any in your neighbourhood maybe it's too cold for them. Anyway let me know your address if you want me to send some.

Time: 8th August 2010 3:56pm

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Greenjay says...
Ive been researching miracle fruit and i was wondering if someone could send me seeds if your willing please email me my email is jordenrucker@ymail.com

Time: 25th August 2010 10:02am

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Jantina says...
Hi Greenjay, I could send cuttings but I suspect Williamsport is in the USA.

Time: 25th August 2010 10:19am

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Greenjay says...
Unfortunately it is but i would love to try them. Are there laws in place to prevent that or is it just that they would die on the trip?

Time: 25th August 2010 10:47am

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Greenjay says...
I just found out its illegal to grow sell or ship miracle fruit to the US but i'll keep you posted on when they pass the fruit as ok

Time: 25th August 2010 2:36pm

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Greenjay says...
I didnt take long i found out that they are legal wow

Time: 25th August 2010 3:19pm

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Jantina says...
Now you need to find out if you can import cuttings. Are you sure you can't get this plant in America? Perhaps ask on the Cloud Forest Cafe, they are very helpful.

Time: 25th August 2010 4:47pm

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Greenjay says...
Ive been looking and i havent found anything but ill keep looking

Time: 26th August 2010 1:50am

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Greenjay says...
Ive. Looked but i havent found any near williamsport pennsylvania

Time: 26th August 2010 2:00am

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Greenjay says...
Does anyone know if you could send seeds to america?


Time: 28th August 2010 7:01am

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Rev says...
well its not illegal to export them from Australia

Customs says you have to declare whats in the box
you get given the c2 sticker at the post office
i just write 'seeds'
tick no commercial value or $5
tick Gift
sign it
show ID - or dont - you dont have to, just say you dont mind if they check it

thats your duty fulflled
on the other end thats the importers problem
and really ve never had a problem sending anything to the USA

with recalcitrant seed, better to use EMS
more expensive but it does the trick

Time: 28th August 2010 6:20pm

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Rev says...
BTW
im keen to buy some fresh seeds
50-100
approach me offers i cant refuse :)
thanks!
Reville1@gmail.com

Time: 28th August 2010 6:22pm

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curious says...
I have just sprayed white oil on my citrus trees, curious to know if the Miracle fruit tree would benefit ?

Time: 28th August 2010 7:02pm

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Greenjay says...
Thank you very much. Now i just need to find a place to get the seeds

Time: 28th August 2010 8:01pm

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trikus says...
Easily sourced in USA ...
http://www.miracletaste.com/index.php/topic,6.0.html

Time: 31st August 2010 3:26pm

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Rev says...
ive gotten seeds from top tropical before, via a third party
even though the seed is legal to import they just wont ship to Australia

i could get direct from west africa
but those guys dont have a clear idea of 'phytosanitary' condition and im always prone to unnecessary loss through aqis

so who on that list can deliver clean seed as per Aqis guidleines?

thanks!

Time: 31st August 2010 7:19pm

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Greenjay says...
Could someone send me seed i really want to try them

Time: 5th September 2010 8:49am

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Greenjay says...
If anyone has plants or seed email me at jordenrucker@ymail.com

Time: 5th September 2010 12:59pm

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trikus says...
Greenjay , these seeds are easy as to source in USA , have you heard of google ?

Rev , should be able to get you plenty when the season starts .

Time: 5th September 2010 3:25pm

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Greenjay says...
I know its winter in austrailia so im guessing growing season doesnt start for a while.

Time: 6th September 2010 12:30am

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John Mc says...
yes, Im just north of Sydney and the Miracle fruit bushes are just beginning to stir.

Time: 6th September 2010 7:41pm

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Greenjay says...
John could you email me and keep me posted about the miracle fruit bushes

Time: 7th September 2010 3:49am

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BJ says...
Hi Greenjay,
Why dont you try someone a little closer to home?
This guy is in Puerto Rico and sells the seeds. It is probably a good time for them right now too:
http://organicfarm.net/seeds.htm

He has some really good other stuff that I might have to try sometime soon.

Time: 7th September 2010 10:22am

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Greenjay says...
Their prices are a little steep for me any other places i found one for one dollar a seed but i cant find the website

Time: 8th September 2010 8:32am

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hardy says...
i have tried to plant the seeds in a "jiffy greehhouse pot" (home depo). i have 2 wierd looling sprouts out of 18 seeds so for. is that normal? what do the sprouts suppose to look like, mine look like a small stem with no leaves. i got my seeds from my tree, its 4' and i got it from a grower in orlando

Time: 1st January 2012 5:59am

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trikus says...
Very difficult to germinate and seedlings do look a little strange .. BUT if you have used sterile seed raising media you can usually be assured it is the seed you planted sprouting and not a weed .


Time: 2nd January 2012 9:07am

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rianti says...
Hi, does anyone know where I can buy mature miracle fruit tree in (or around) Sydney? Thanks!

Time: 15th January 2012 1:20am

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Michael says...
Hi Rianti ,

Try googling Bonyrigg Garden Centre . It's about 25 minutes from Leichardt . I got 3 good size plants from there awhile ago which has all fruited . They were selling it for $24.50 a plant I think .

Time: 17th January 2012 1:27pm

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hardy says...
let me ammend my statement.....i now have 6 healthy seedlings about 3" to 4" tall ad have planted 12 more seeds.... i have found out that it just takes patience.


Time: 19th January 2012 6:09am

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rianti says...
Hi Michael, thanks for that. I called Bonyrigg Garden Centre this afternoon but unfortunately they don't have any in stock and haven't been for a while :(

Time: 19th January 2012 11:54pm

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Michael says...
Hi Rianti ,

I can spare you one for free . It's about 30 centimetres high and should be fruiting soon this year . I went crazy and bought 3 from bonnyrigg garden centre and 2 from daleys . The 3 from the garden centre is already fruiting at 60 cms . I am driving pass Leichardt this Sunday to visit a friend in the city . I can drop it off you you . Should be around 9:30am in the morning . If you are interested just drop me an email at Michaeldang@mail.com

Time: 20th January 2012 1:37pm

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chillilover says...
Sorry couldn't help commenting but some people here are very generous. So far i have come across Nick, Mary T, Loma, and now Michael. You guys are making Daley's forum an interesting place.

Time: 20th January 2012 3:54pm

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Michael says...
Hi Chillilover,

Thanks for the kind comment .Judging by your forum name you must be into chillis ?I just bought two Bhut Jolokia plants from my local garden centre loaded with fruits . They were not cheap @ $22.50 a plant but's it's worth the money for chilli freaks like myself.

Time: 21st January 2012 2:23pm

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Michael says...
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Time: 21st January 2012 2:31pm

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chillilover says...
Wow Michael that was expensive. I have been unsuccessful in germinating these yet but i have a red bhut which emerged yesterday. Let's see how this baby goes. Below is what i am currently growing.

Just sprouted:

Hungarian black
Cap 1492
Aji Lemon
Big Jim
Trinidad scorpion
Inchanga (hook emerged 15.01)
Peppadews
African Honey

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1. Thai chilli
2. Cap 217 hyper
3. Bishops hot
4. Cap Pub 1486
5. Sweet Datil
6. Po Cheong
7. Pimente de neyde
8. Orange Lantern
9. Orange Monzano
10. Peruvian White
11. Nagabon
12. Hot Cherry
13. Hot store variety
14. Orange T Scorpion
15. Red habanero
16. Orange Habanero
17. Chocolate Habanero
18. Yellow Habanero
19. Inferno
20. red cayenne.

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Also have mango, lychee, curry leaves, ginger, tomatoes, cucumber, guava, etc etc. Always on the lookout for different things to add to my collection. And it's only due to generous people like you on the forums.

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Mike says...
Chillilover that is quite a collection and I have widdled mine down to just a few.Is 14 a Butch T? If you get a dorset narga,buht jolokia and an infinity you'll want for nothing.The Thai one could be any of about 50 types and the most prized gourmet ones go from white to red or are thin and curl like a pigs tail.I dry mine in a drier and give them away fresh and dried.My buht is a beaut and finally is covered in flowers.

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It might be. Not sure. Seed was given by someone. I'll ask them. I so wish i could grow a choc bhut though.

Time: 21st January 2012 4:52pm

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MaryT says...
How long does it take for the Miracle Fruit to start fruiting? Mine does not seem to be doing anything though I checked it this morning and discovered it's been covered by the coffee tree and it's actually put on new growth underneath the coffee leaves.
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Hi MaryT

Are those seedlings? they look great!
my plant purchased at end of last year/beginning of this year is looking really sad at the moment (all the leaves look badly burnt and not very green at all). But funnily i've discovered that two large fruits have formed. i'm sure yours will be fruiting for you soon - apparently they start fruiting around 30cm??

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MaryT says...
Hi Kim - No, this is my seedling. The pictures above are of a tree I bought in 2010, I think. It has been over 30 cm for some time but shows no signs of flowering or fruiting and I am happy to let it be. We've had a lot of rain in Sydney and everything is growing faster than I can cope because I have a container garden. Had to give a number of trees away.
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kim says...
I'm sure your plant will be flowering/fruiting for you soon enough. My plant already had a few flowers on it when i bought it and as i wasn't expecting any to actually set fruit, i'm ecstatic that i've got two fruits that are starting to ripen (i think).

I think i only got fruits after giving it a "smoothie" of lemon peels, vinegar water and coffee grounds (not at the same time - i'm experimenting to see what it likes best).

Didn't realize this plant likes acidity just like blueberries. :) Hope i'll get a lot more berries as family and friends are very eager to experiment...

Time: 8th April 2012 2:32pm

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David says...
Saw some cutting grown plants at the organic markets this AM. Didnt think miracle would grow from cuttins, each was $18.00.Very healthy looking.

Time: 8th April 2012 2:59pm

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BJ says...
Aspley hypermarket garden centre is closing down, so has everything 50% off, so managed to snap up 2 1m tall miracle fruit trees at $15 covered in fruit.

Time: 8th April 2012 7:36pm

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Mike says...
Miracle fruit are only a novelty and my 1m tall 5ish year old plants pumps out the fruit (1000+ in its last fruit flush) but I don't use them.It would be good if there were interesting ways to use the fruit.

Time: 8th April 2012 7:46pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
My dream is growing miracle as hedges, pick all fruits and send to patients at hospital who are sick with bitter taste for whatever medical conditions. I think this fruit will cheer them up.

Time: 8th April 2012 9:14pm

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Mike says...
I didn't think of that Lucy.I have only one plants not plants.A few months ago I gave away a pot with about 100 seedlings in it and don't plant them any more.Nearly all the guava and cha'um cuttings died but I'll just keep doing it until some survive.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,

Only when you have lots of miracle fruits at the same time then it will be worthwhile to give them to hospital. Like you, I have 3 trees but only harvest a couple every now and then. One day I will get lots of tree from Exotic grove in Woodpen Creek and grow them that way.

Time: 8th April 2012 9:40pm

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John Mc says...
Mike, the only propagating success I've had with guavas is to air layer them, or seed of course.

Time: 8th April 2012 9:51pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Mike, I know you do your best to get me some plants (guava and cha'um cuttings) but if it is unsuccessful then it is ok. It sounds like very difficult way to propagate a new plant from cutting from those two. I understand. Thanks you very much in advance.

Time: 8th April 2012 10:03pm

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kim says...
Hi Jujube - that's a great idea! i've never thought of it before. Seems a lot of people bring their miracle fruit plants indoors - do you think they will survive in the ground? if there's high chance of survival, i might follow your lead and grow some as a hedge and harvest the fruits for sick people.

the only plant i've got is rather sickly looking, though it always seem to have flowers/buds on it. i was planning on repotting it and bringing it indoors when it gets a bit colder.





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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Kim,

It is very hard to grown miracle in cold area. I have had mine for 3 years and apart from making sure that the soil PH is about 4.5 to 5.5, the humidity is another huddle. I re-pot mine using peat moss/soil 50/50 and bring inside in winter. You could mix rotten pine needles in stead of pea tmoss with soil it will work well. Ideally, they should thrive in hot/green house in cold area but in pots. I don't think miracle will survive in the ground unless you live in QLD.

Good luck to yours.

Lucy.

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kim says...
You've got me thinking about your fantastic idea now Jujube - first i'll just have to wait and see how my plant reacts to winter. if its easy-ish, then i will definite think about getting more as they will no doubt benefit a lot of people.

My grandmother has alzheimer's as well as other ailments and a lot of her medication has to be crushed up to be effective, she is an example of someone who will really benefit from the miracle fruit berries.

:)

Time: 9th April 2012 2:16pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Kim,
The micracle fruit according to wiki may help patients with diabetes.[12] Fruit cultivators also report a small demand from cancer patients, because the fruit allegedly counteracts a metallic taste in the mouth that may be one of the many side effects of chemotherapy.

Good luck to your grandmother. In the mean time I just keep dreaming.

Lucy.

Time: 9th April 2012 4:23pm

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Mike says...
Jujube,John Mc I know some people successfully propagate guavas and cha'oom with cuttings, but I have only rarely had them take.Maybe I should be chopping guava roots and leaving them to sprout.My marcotting efforts have also been pretty poor of late.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,

It may be a problem of getting the roots out of the guava tree then fungus will attack the tree and cause problem later on. I will be happy if you have some seeds next time and plant those for me.
You gave me a piece of beautiful guava from your tree but too busy to enjoy and I forgot to keep the seeds.

Time: 10th April 2012 11:25am

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Mike says...
Lucy, Guavas are tough and seem to enjoy being treated rough.The is little risk of fungal infection.I should do it with the pineapple guava as it needs to get out in the world.

Time: 10th April 2012 5:02pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Thanks Mike.
I love your special Brazilian guava but after receiving a few cuttings from you, they did not take so I am going to plant the seeds instead. I still have some.

Time: 10th April 2012 5:34pm

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Mike says...
Lucy there is a chance the pineapple brazil guava seeds won't grow true to type and could revert to the standard P.guineense.This afternoon I dug around both guavas very deeply and couldn't find a root.They both must be rootless poles that go to the centre of the earth.

Time: 10th April 2012 8:00pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,

Many thanks for your effort, I am very much appreciated. You did your best and could not make it so I will settle to the Brazilian seedling and hope it will grow true to type. With the Thai white guava I will buy one when I have a chance.
Ta.

Time: 10th April 2012 9:35pm

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Mike says...
Lucy I will get them propagated they are just being a little defiant at the moment.Today I planted a Hung chanh plant and got a so dua as well as a moringa (I don't know the vietnamese name for that).

Time: 10th April 2012 9:53pm

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MaryT says...
Mike your comment re poles going to the centre of the earth makes me wonder if the cuttings need to be much longer than usual - perhaps try burying them deeper?

Time: 11th April 2012 6:28am

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Mike says...
Mary I plant them pretty deeply already.The mexican cream,yellow cherry guava and chinese pear guava have obviously shallow roots but the 2 good types don't.I'll try them in different substrates,with and without rooting powder and hope now that temps are more comfortable they will take.

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MaryT says...
Just a thought Mike. I don't even have a 'real' guava, just a yellow cherry that produces reasonable fruit and a strawberry guava that gives me nothing. :) It's asking to be hacked, I think.

Time: 11th April 2012 6:15pm

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Mike says...
Mary I take it back about the mexican cream as I just ate a very large sweet one.If I get these 'pineapple' brazilians going and send you and and you'll be spitting out the yellow cherries in horror.My yellow cherry produces well but they aren't much better than the strawberry guavas and it is on a short probation.I reckon it's time to hack for your strawberry.You might be surprised at how many of my plants are now contributing to the garden in a more 'earthy' way.

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Hi Mike,

So Đũa - Sesbania grandiflora
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Hi Mike,

So Đũa - Sesbania grandiflora
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Mike says...
Thanks Lucy, wikipedia was talking with forked ....... text.The Hung chanh I meant was Coleus (syn. Plectranthus) amboinicus.Moringa,Sesbania and soursop seedlings 40cm to 60cm tall at limberlost were $8.95 to $10.95 each.What a surprise they had an african yellow passionfruit as well and it was almost calling out to me.My small yellow panama vine should be shaking in its...roots.

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Hi Mike,

Did you grow the herb with thick leaf if yes then it is Coleus (syn. Plectranthus) amboinicus?. We call it "Tần d

Time: 11th April 2012 7:44pm

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Mike says...
Lucy I don't use a mouse so am not plagued by them myself.You have a great spatial memory and I am very familiar with the lemon basil and I think we (I) forgot to dig one up for you.Anyway yes it is the big,fleshy leafed herb and my one has a white edge on the leaves.I remember using a plain green type of tan day la in soups years ago.
The only place I have seen the african yellow passionfuit is limberlost and they are very similar in appearance to yellow panama,but fruit is sweeter and more flavoursome,has deeper orange pulp and are fuller and heavier.They also had the smaller fruited sweeter granadilla vine and the flesh is pretty good on that type.
Oh yeah I also grabbed a curry tree for $8.95.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,

You are very good not to depend to the mouse. I am quicker with one.
This is the first time I have heard about african yellow passionfruit and also the sweeter granalilla . I love the flowers they are so beautiful and decorative. I have 2 big curry trees in Melbourne that I only use leaves a couple of times a year. It is a very handy tree to have.

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Hi Mike,

You are very good not to depend to the mouse. I am quicker with one.
This is the first time I have heard about african yellow passionfruit and also the sweeter granalilla . I love the flowers they are so beautiful and decorative. I have 2 big curry trees in Melbourne that I only use leaves a couple of times a year. It is a very handy tree to have.

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Mike says...
Lucy,I now have rows and rows of seedlings and shallots popping up.The african passionfruit could just be an improved panama.The big common granadilla use to be called P.macrocarpa and now is considered the same species as the smaller,sweeter granadilla and they are all P.quadrangularis now.

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Mike says...
There has been strong wind and rain all night and and all day and I'm back to a mudfest.I hope my little seedlings in the vegie patch pull through and so far at least half look alright.I did jump the gun and planted too soon.

Time: 12th April 2012 4:32pm

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MaryT says...
I bet half of what you planted is twice as much as you need anyway - it just means less surplus to hand out, right? Don't worry, we'll still be your friends. :)

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Mike says...
Mary I got a bit carried away this season and no matter what I'll be loaded with vegies and give most away.Some of the 'stars' planted will be tomatoes,long chillies,garlic and lima beans from Brendan,chick peas and soy beans from Nick and loads of good seeds and corms from jujube.Thanks guys.
Thanks Mary I'm glad my chums will stick by me even if the vegies don't pull through.I did plant more herbs,small trees and paw paws also.Oh yeah my tiny Carica monoica from John has its first flowers and my babaco has recovered.

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Wow that's exciting, Mike, especially the Carica monoica flowering! Yours is the land of plenty. :)

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What? your C Monoica has flowers already? You're kidding? None of mine are over knee height yet. That's it, I'm moving.

Time: 13th April 2012 11:30pm

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Mike says...
John Mc, it is about 35cm tall,quite robust and has clusters of flower buds in 2 leaf axils.Another is only about 12cm and spindly and the rest I passed on to other forum folk.

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MaryT says...
Mike and John Mc, mine is still hanging in there but tiny; maybe your 12cm twin, Mike. It was attacked by something as you can see. Now that the nights are cold I put a plastic drink bottle over it and it seems to like it.

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Back to the miracle bush Mike, I'm still waiting for action with mine. The seedlings you gave me are doing well; slowly but surely they're sprouting one leaf at a time. :)
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Mike says...
For 2 years it will drag its backside before it throws off the shackles and speeds up.

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MaryT says...
Thanks Mike, though '2 years' in Paradise is probably a lifetime for us mortals. :) Anyway it's kinda fun keeping count of the leaves - three on 4 April, five on 14 April - and that's only because we had a bit of a heat wave.

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Helen N says...
Hi everybody,
I am a newbie.Anyone know where to buy miracle fruit tree ? My parents got type 2 diabetes so I think its good time to grow this tree.
Anyone can help much appteciate



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Michael D says...
Hi Helen,

I don't think this plant is known to help with diabetes . You should try growing Dragon fruits or Bitter gourds instead. Or for cooking try growing the Stevia herb as a sugar replacement or sprinkle cinnamon on your foods .

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Hi Michael,
I agreed with you on dragon fruits and bitter melon.


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rianti says...
TO MICHAEL of WAKELEY,

I don't know why but I have only read your post from Jan 2012 where you offered to give me a miracle fruit tree for free - VERY sorry for not seeing that earlier and thank you heaps for your generous offer! You are very kind.

After much googing I found a mature (1m tall) tree at Wyee Nursery so I bought 2 of them (yes, I drove 3hr return trip haha..). They are fruiting now and what a fruit! :)

Time: 7th March 2013 7:31pm

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Michael D says...
Hi Rianti,

That is a very long trip to make but I also drove to Canberra to buy some chilli plants costing me $25 bucks but hundreds in petrol and overnight accomodation . I guess when you passionate about something nothing can stand in yoru way . If you ever wanted to buy most plants you see from Daleys then stop by the Canley Vale Nursery on the corner of Canley Vale Road and Phelps St . They stock fruiting miracle palnts and more .

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Wandering around says...
We bought our Miracle plant from Fitzroy nursery in Rockhampton, they are a wholesale nursery as well. I don't think it cost us that much, about $10.

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IanW says...
I just had a cutting grown miracle berry tree arrive. In Sydney at winter solstice, do I need to keep it indoors until its established in its new pot? Or will it be OK in 5 degrees C overnight?

Time: 21st June 2017 12:47pm

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Markmelb says...
Keep it inside over winter and dont water it - mine lasted 3 years and got to a good size but because i had peat (for acidity) in mix it didnt dry out in time before it got below 15c inside and karked it - i got to try the berries and that was enough.

Time: 22nd June 2017 9:37am

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Julie says...
Mark, are you saying it doesn't like to be cold AND wet? You let it dry out over winter?

Time: 24th June 2017 8:56pm

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Markmelb says...
Yes Julie - thats from my experience - I do same to Moringa which is surviving inside - has lost all leaves and has some shoots now growing on top - roots like it dry but not wet and cold. Dont know how they grow to fruiting in Pheonix where they get frosts but they love the heat. I think that guy mulches heavily for insulation?

Time: 25th June 2017 10:52am

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IanW says...
Thanks Mark, the plant is now in the only window space available in my flat. I just potted it up on Wednesday in peat and perlite, with some blood & bone for food, and pine bark mulch.
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Time: 26th June 2017 10:20am

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Markmelb says...
IanW - sounds like a good mix you're trying - keep us posted as may get another in future if yours goes ok - berries are quite a novelty.

Julie - must qualify that the miracle fruit and the Moringa will only exist dry over winter inside as its in a type of hybernation due to being below say 15c but over 10c whilst inside but once spring hits you will notice them waking then give small amounts till it gets to 18c+ then you can water normally.

Time: 26th June 2017 12:49pm

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IanW says...
Mark, its not getting below 18C in the room with the potted plant, so its sounds like I should still be watering a little?

Time: 27th June 2017 7:43pm

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Julie says...
Mark, that's strange. Moringa survive winter here, though they lose their leaves. Winter is when we usually get all our rain, so they are both cold and wet!

After reading your post, I moved one in a pot into an unheated greenhouse. The other one is too tall. No matter what I do it grows tall and skinny, and refuses to bush out at all.

Time: 27th June 2017 9:34pm

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IanW says...
The edges of the peat in my miracle berry's pot have developed white mould overnight! I removed the visibly infected surface soil for disposal. Will it just grow back if I don't apply an anti-fungal?

Time: 28th June 2017 1:09pm

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Markmelb says...
Julie - you can hack moringa back alot - you should prune anyway - Heres a video of a guy I watch in Phoenix Arizona chopping back his Moringas he uses for shade.I guess their winters although cold & short is pretty dry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmkeFVm3cJ0

Time: 28th June 2017 3:02pm

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IanW says...
I let the Miracle berry soil dry out, and now the lower leaves are drying out and crisping. It hasn't gotten below 17 degrees in this room, perhaps the plant needs a tiny bit of water, even in winter?
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Time: 6th July 2017 1:14pm

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Markmelb says...
Do you use heating at all to keep room at !7c? as dry warm air not good.They are older leaves too - if that happened to top leaves is an issue. feel how damp is it at drainage holes - if its dry maybe a light water on top say 2 cups no more and wait a few days. You have a better chance near Sydney keeping alive than here in Melbourne.

Time: 7th July 2017 9:38am

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Danny333 says...
Miracle fruit is fairly tough and doesn't need as much fuss as people think. Mine is potted in regular potting mix with a couple of teaspoons of sulphur mixed in. Only been repotted twice in 8 years. It stays outside in the cold and wet in winter in Perth and although it loses a few leaves in the coldest months they quickly regrow in spring.

Winter nights here average around 5C with days around 17C give or take a couple of degrees. And the plant bears most of its fruit from late Feb to early May.

I always keep the soil moist, even in winter.

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Time: 7th July 2017 4:22pm

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IanW says...
I'm in the Inner West of Sydney, and I have good insulation. I've only used a fan heater a little on the last few nights for spot heating myself.

The soil was dry, and more of the leaves were crisping, so I put half a cup of water, waited a few days, and then watered with a full cup. Now the soil at the bottom is damp.

I'll check the soil regularly and water minimally when dry, but it looks like my environment isn't good for completely drying the soil out. I've also started misting the leaves when I mist my kiwi and feijoa seedlings.

Time: 10th July 2017 12:35pm

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Danny333 says...
I would personally repot the plant into a quality azalea mix and add a little sulphur to stabilise acidity over the long term. Peat and perlite holds too much water and is a mix better suited to swamp plants. If the plant is still young keep it inside until night time minimum temps are over 10C just to be safe. An ideal place is a sunny bathroom windowsill as miracle fruit love a bit of humidity.

Once the trunk gets close to the diameter of a pencil it should be fine outside with no need for special attention.

Don't keep the plant in full sun outside in summer as the leaves will burn. Mine grows in a pot underneath my banana trees in dappled shade.

Time: 13th July 2017 2:25am

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IanW says...
The plant looks unhappy, with some crisping up top. I'll consider repotting in azealea mix, although that has wetting agents added. Its in a sunny window facing South. Getting sunlight reflected off the flats next door.
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Time: 14th July 2017 3:56pm

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IanW says...
I repotted the miracle berry in azalea mix and compost, with perlite and sand.I moved it to get less light. It stopped dropping leaves. The remaining leaves are starting to brown at the edges. I've put a big plastic box on it to keep it more humid. Now that its Spring, there's no new growth. I think its slowly dying.
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Time: 11th October 2017 12:42pm

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IanW says...
The plant went outside for Spring and Summer. It didn't grow any new leaves, and lost some more and browned some more. Now its cold again, I've brought it back inside and put an LED lamp on it since my windows don't get any direct sunlight. I noticed tiny red dots moving on it - spider mite? There's nothing on the underside of the leaves and no webbing. I'm spraying it with a tiny amount of detergent dissolved in water, as suggested on some websites. I'm amazed it hasn't died! I suspect I shouldn't have planted it in such a large pot, but if I repot it now I could stress the plant too much.

I recently purchased a new miracle berry seedling from Daleys. I really don't want the new one to catch the red mites from the sick one!

Time: 27th May 2018 12:36pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Ian

Use a soft sponge in conjunction with your soap water to wipe off the buggers. Repeat after a week and so on if they are still there. Secondly, you can use a small amount of isopropyl alcohol laced in a cotton ball and wipe off the critters. Try first in a small area to see if the plant can tolerate a small amount of alcohol before trying to treat the entire plant to avoid accidentally killing or seriously injuring your miracle fruit plant.

Happy gardening :-)

Time: 27th May 2018 8:48pm

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David01 says...
Hi IanW,

You don't need LED lamp unless room temp drops below 10C for young Miracle plant. Indirect sunlight through windows should be okay in winter. I found detergent mixed with oil does not work as claimed and often damage the young leaves. All my plants treated with alcohol+water spray and so far it works with mites, scale, and small insects and the spray does not cause any harm to young leaves as Alcohol will evaporate in few minutes. The ratio depends on case by case. But for spider mite the ratio is 1:2 (1 part Alcohol 70% 2 parts tap water). You may need to repeat 2 or 3 times. One dose a day. Cheers

Time: 28th May 2018 1:03pm

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IanW says...
The alcohol spray sounds promising. How is the alcohol sold? Methylated spirits, Ethanol?
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Time: 30th May 2018 8:32pm

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David01 says...
Hi IanW,

It’s a Isopropyl Alcohol - IPA ( C₃H₈O). It contains 70% to 99.8% of Alcohol mixed with water. The mixture is used for antiseptic to kill germ and bacteria. Its common name is Rubbing Alcohol. You can buy it from ebay under “Isopropyl Alcohol or IPA”. The link below info about IPA
https://www.drugs.com/inactive/isopropyl-alcohol-159.html

Note: Ethanol alcohol is used for fuel and drinks and Methylated spirits has mainly ethyl alcohol that has additives 5-10% of methyl to make it more toxic mainly for industrial use

Time: 1st June 2018 11:11am

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Ian

Isopropyl Alcohol.

Happy gardening :-)

Time: 2nd June 2018 5:22am

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