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Hi All, I am considering buying a moisture meter. I know that you get what you pay for with these and a "proper" one costs $500+ - can anyone recommend a good, reliable brand at all?
Time: 3rd January 2010 1:04am
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Jimmy says...
The best are called "irommeter" made in USA, you can get them with a manual dial or electronic sensor.
Total Eden is Perth sell them.
Time: 4th January 2010 1:02pm
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Jimmy says...
www.irrometer.com/
Time: 4th January 2010 1:03pm
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amanda says...
Great Jimmy - U use one? I think they could save me a lot of guess work on my soil - it's got super sharp drainage - but water repellance can sometimes make things misleading - I don't have time to check the trees all the time - and sometimes the mulch needs literally flooding to get it wet/up to field capacity.
Time: 4th January 2010 5:16pm
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Brad says...
minor hijack - I was looking at this too, but also PH testing. Are there any probes worth using, or are the kits better? (e.g. bunnings have the CSIRO kit for $16)
Time: 4th January 2010 5:24pm
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Brad says...
Amanda - did you mean to leave in the ground? My post was more along the lines of a probe - e.g. to test various vegie beds, fruit pots etc
Time: 4th January 2010 5:29pm
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Julie says...
Brad, I have only used the kit - I think other systems are probably more expensive. Have you priced any?
Then again the kit has to be replaced eventually. I have found it very effective for my needs.
Thanks for the tip about Bunnings price - my local hardware store is charging $27+!
Time: 4th January 2010 10:08pm
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peter says...
i dont know what brand it is but i
have been using a moisture meter
bought from the garden section of my
local hardware for $15.00
they also have the same thing as a
ph meter.
ide be surprised if bunnings didnt
have them for sale.
Time: 4th January 2010 11:14pm
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amanda says...
Hi Brad, proper pH and moisture testers are not a cheap investment. If u talk to agronomists etc they will warn u about the cheap versions available in hardware stores. The are really wobbly with accuracy. I guess a chemist or such could explain the methodology better.
I think the pH test kits are fine for every day garden purposes - but given the cost of water these days - that a good moisture meter is a wise investment - also for our future water supplies.
They take a lot of the guess work out of both sand and clay soils.
I managed to slash my water bill in half this Aug - Dec period (compared with same period 3yrs running) by just being brutal - but lost a few natives in the process. If I had a meter I would have been able to judge it better. I am an ex-scientist so I get quite methodical when it comes to some aspects of my gardening!? ;-)
I also feel very guilty about pouring perfectly good drinking water on the ground when so many in the world don't have that luxury.....
Time: 4th January 2010 11:20pm
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Charles cant spell says...
Hahaha Gero's water is not "perfectly drinkable" :P but yes I agree. One day I will get my bore done.
Time: 5th January 2010 1:32am
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Kath says...
Have you tried adding zeolite/bentonite & spongelite to your soil? I'm on sand & have started using this & it seems to work well-in conjunction with mulch . Was reccommended at a Great Gardens worrkshop-is made commercially as 'Sand Remedy' http://www.greenlifesoil.com.au/sandremedy.htm but I mix my own. Have shopped around & the cheapest place for the zeolite I could find was Gardener's Direct
http://www.gardenersdirect.com.au/commerce/search/products/?product_id=zapg001&merchant_id=2135
Time: 5th January 2010 11:22am
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amanda says...
Hi Kath n Charles - yup I use pure clay from our local brickworks. Would love to get a bore down - my farmer mate reckons their just expensive pit dunnies around here tho' :-)) I have divined water near the house tho' - it's pot luck what you get in these parts tho'.
Time: 5th January 2010 12:19pm
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Jimmy says...
http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/PC_92494.html
http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/objtwr/imported_assets/content/lwe/water/irr/fn068_2004.pdf
Time: 5th January 2010 7:02pm
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Brad says...
Jimmy (& others?) - what do you use for your pots?
My trees are now growing into their pots, so I don't want to overwater the bottom (no roots there yet) or let the top dry out.
Time: 5th January 2010 8:14pm
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amanda says...
Hi Brad - I don't understand..are u using dishes under the pots or something?
Time: 7th January 2010 7:39pm
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Brad says...
Hi Amanda,
I've got 2 large sealed concrete pots (100L+) which now sit on pavers in the garden bed. Each pot only has one large central drainage hole - I wrapped some blue metal in cloth to (hopefully) prevent potting mix clogging the hole. The hole itself is able to drain, but I cannot access the potting mix to tell if its dry, moist or waterlogged. The citrus trees I potted in here came out of much smaller pots, so currently the roots are only in the top quarter of the pot.
I've got 4 sealed clay pots (3 blueberries and a pinkabelle) which are similar, but smaller.
I've not used dishes - you don't want permanently wet feet or a slug breeding ground.
I've got 4mm line running up through all these pots, intending to drip irrigate when everything is setup. I'm handwatering daily at the moment and the plants seem happy, but I've no idea whether I'm under- or over-doing it
Does that make sense?
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Time: 7th January 2010 11:52pm
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amanda says...
Yup Brad - I see what u mean now. Maybe you should use a water meter too? One drain hole seems to be the norm these days.. I don't know if it's a good thing or not - good idea to make sure it doesn't get clogged.
I have never grown fruit trees in pots (only ornamentals) so I'm not much help I'm afraid.
Time: 8th January 2010 1:01am
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Brad says...
does anyone have experience with the moisture and ph meters on this page?
http://www.greenharvest.com.au/tools/soil_testing_and_monitoring_prod.html
Time: 13th January 2010 1:35am
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amanda says...
Evening Brad - sorry but they are probably crap :-(
Those pH meters are notoriously inaccurate - the moisture meter not much better. They have been actively discouraged in Kevin Handreck's book (CSIRO) "Gardening Down Under" (great book by the way...)
I would not use the pH meter at all - the moisture meter you could trial I guess, and see what you think - it's cheap enuf' ?
Time: 13th January 2010 1:50am
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Mish says...
Hi Brad
I use a simple 'multi meter' which is the bigger version to the 'mini meter' on the link you posted. It has a moisture, light and PH setting. Nothing fancy like $500; just $9.96 from Bunnings.
I couldn't live without it as most of my fruit trees are in large pots & and I have some vegie patches which are much happier now I know when they need watering not when I think they need it. (I overwatered my last attempt at a garden to death).
I usually test my garden in the evening so I know who needs a water in the morning or whether I can have a sleep in :)
Although, a true PH can only be achieved by a lab; I have found the PH setting to give a pretty fair reading (I get the soil place to test my order then I use my meter after I have filled my pots etc...) and adjust according to my plants needs.
Also, some nurseries will do a PH test for free, so ask around your local garden centres.
Time: 13th January 2010 1:53am
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amanda says...
Hi Mish - good feedback (i must eat my words!) So you are happy with the moisture meter function? Anyone else? I would much rather buy these if I can get away with it for the time being - I can't really afford a decent one - but desperately need something for this summer....the wind and heat are all over the place (I had trakpants and 2 jumpers on last night but will be 38 - 44 degrees all weekend..!!??)
Time: 13th January 2010 11:46am
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amanda says...
Hi Brad - I eat my words.. :-o I picked up two of the "Mini Moisture Meters" at Bunnings 2day - and road tested them.
I got two (in case one was a dud or such) and played around with them in a few different pots of soil (of varying wetness) that I prepared.
There was a small variation between the two meters - but not enuf' to bother about.
They took about a minute to settle down to a reading which then did not change for at least half an hour (as long as went!)
The "dry" readings were stable within 10 secs and the wet readings took a minute)
There was a slight variation re-reading the same pots (only 7 vs 8) but I didn't think this was significant in the scheme of things.
My only feeling with them was that they read a drier reading than what my fingertips told me (ie I thought the soil was a bit wetter than the reading) But that's subjective I guess.
Anyway - I am going to give them a go and see what happens ;-)
Time: 13th January 2010 7:08pm
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Brad says...
ok - the last Bunnings I looked at didn't have any in. I'll try see if melville have any next time I'm anywhere near it
Time: 13th January 2010 7:40pm
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amanda says...
Brad - Maybe don't recommend leaving them in permanently .. over 6 hrs result changed from 7 to 9...that was a big difference (and that is "wetter" - so maybe my fingertips not too bad..?)
I am a little cautious myself - but for ten bucks and general garden use - it's worth a go. Maybe with time/practice it will be even better.
Apparently my passionfruit have guzzled all the water I gave them yesterday already! I will experiment on one of them and see what happens - will let u know if I kill it ;)
Time: 14th January 2010 4:06am
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Wayne says...
I have a "Garden Trend" mini moisture tester and a PH tester from Bunnings. I don't think I have used the moisture tester but the PH tester drives me crazy trying to use it. Perhaps someone can recommend one.
Time: 14th January 2010 8:21am
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Brendan says...
Hi Wayne,
The 'Manutec Soil pH Test Kit' is a good one. It's a bit fiddley, but gives accurate results. I think I bought mine from bunnings.
Time: 14th January 2010 8:33am
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Brad says...
just an idea for moisture measurement - maybe the way to do this would be a thin cylinder (
Time: 14th January 2010 1:25pm
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Mish says...
Hi Brad & Amanda
Amanda: So far I am very happy with the moisture meter and use it daily, as I am so paranoid that I will water everything to death. I too did some sort of 'calibration' with it, like testing the plants right after I watered them, and getting a '10' reading. Or as I like to say 'you're drowning me...' And testing a pot with dry dirt in it... The large pots I have for my fruit trees have the drain holes on the sides, so I can get the probe in there too to monitor drainage.
Brad: I have uploaded a picture of the one I got from bunnings. It is from the same manufacturer as the mini meter on your links (it had the same packaging).
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Time: 14th January 2010 8:51pm
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amanda says...
Thanks Mish - you have saved me a great deal of money! I been having an interesting time poking it in the ground around the place - I never realised how greedy my passionfruits were!
I haven't worried to much about my native ornamentals tho' - the roots are way down deep (as they should be) accessing subsoil moisture. But it's great for my fruit trees, lawn and few pot plants.
It's 40 degrees plus for next 3 days - so I will be needing it!
Thanks for your help :-)
Time: 16th January 2010 10:45am
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Wayne says...
I have just arrived back from Bunnings with a new PH meter. They have the twin probe like Mishs' the Moisture meter and PH meter ------ all ------- wait for it ------- $5.oo each
Time: 16th January 2010 10:53am
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amanda says...
Hey! Mine was ten bucks!? :-o
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Time: 16th January 2010 11:41am
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Brad says...
thanks Mish. I got the combined one for $10 (which was fun, because I only found labels for the mini ones ... also $10)
I found out most of my soil and potting mix are neutral or very slightly alkaline. My Blueberry pots are at 5.5, which they seem very happy with and if anything I can water a little less
Time: 16th January 2010 9:30pm
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Wayne says...
How closely do you follow the instructions when testing your soil
Time: 17th January 2010 6:45am
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Brad says...
they have instructions?
Time: 17th January 2010 8:28pm
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Wayne says...
I'm guessing you think you just stick them in the ground and hope for the best Brad
Time: 17th January 2010 8:42pm
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Brad says...
pretty much Wayne, but i just checked the packaging in the bin. the only details I remember: bury 3/4 depth for moisture measurement. It needs some moisture for a ph measurement and recommends waiting 60seconds.
Time: 17th January 2010 9:10pm
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Wayne says...
Testing the way they say Brad is a proper pain in the butt, are we talking about the same meter.
Dig down 100mm, loosen the soil, turn it into mud, polish the probe but not the tip, insert the prob and rotate, if it's green polish it again, if it's red just wipe it clean and put it in a different spot.
So do we keep doing this until we get a reading we like???? crazy.
Time: 18th January 2010 7:23am
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Brad says...
mine is the same as Mish posted about 10 entries ago. Instructions were nothing like yours.
For pH test it says something like a muddy consistency is required and to wipe the probe after each test, but nothing about digging, rotating or repeating
Time: 18th January 2010 11:54am
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Brendan says...
Hi All,
I wonder why Bunnings sell the same type of moisture meters at different prices, all around Australia?
Time: 20th January 2010 9:08am
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Diana says...
Maybe for the same reason that McDonalds charge more for hamburgers in economically deprived areas (I heard on a radio documentary once)- they reckon poorer people will buy takeaways anyway but wealthier people will buy more hamburgers if they are a bargain. Perhaps people in drier areas will pay more.
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I don't think they (franchises) are actually allowed to that under the Fair Trade Act?
Time: 20th January 2010 11:45am
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Brad says...
I've seen so many pricing mistakes at Bunnings, they possibly don't even know it. I'm guessing I got the combo meter for the single type's price???
My favourite was trying to return a dripper system inline filter which probably costs $6 and they gave me a credit slip for a lcd timer around $60. When I pointed this out the supervisor was unimpressed but the guy said "that's what came up in the system for that code"
Time: 20th January 2010 12:37pm
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You pointed that out against the great evil one?
Time: 21st January 2010 10:32am
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amanda says...
Wow - it has been a revelation to me just how much water my passonfruit vines are going thru' since I used the meter....so i looked up the requirements for sandy soils:
During summer in the Perth region, vines at recommended
spacings can use up to 60 L of water per vine per day.
(From Ag Dept notes) That's heaps!?
Infact the meter is telling me that I have been under watering....which I kind of suspected as we have it drilled into us not to waste it. I didn't realise just how much under I was! (Natives are fine tho')
This got me thinking (as I have nothing better to do on a public holiday :) ..) about how sandy soils need both deep watering (for deep roots) and maybe shallower watering for maintenance and surface root feeding?
It's a bit confusing really!? I am going to try for something in the middle i think! ;-)
Time: 27th January 2010 12:02am
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Brad says...
Hi Amanda - the 60L value would be for commercial production of vines trained to be exposed to full sun in the open. But yeah, passionfruit are thirsty in summer.
Your last point I've wondered about before when Jimmy (I think it was) mentioned he waters a few times a day. On the one side you want to encourage deeper roots without waterlogging it, on the other shallow feeders dry out fast here (especially in sandy soil). I'm sure the experts can teach us something on this point
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amanda says...
Hi Brad - yea..mine don't need that much!. Some of my fruit trees have 4 x4L/hour drippers and I will water 4hrs at a time = 64L. Maybe 1-2 x week in really hot weather. That's my "deep soak".
They also have a microsprayer on a different line. I may do this for an hour every second or third day in summer. This seems to keep the mulch moist and increase humidity. This keeps the worms active, washes down potassium, makes good soil etc.
So far it seems to be working well, I have noticed a great response. I was sort of thinking that once the roots are down deep - they will only go so far surely? Then it would be just maintenance? At this rate my tree roots will end up in China!!?
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Julie says...
I bought a Garden Trend pH meter last week at Bunnings. It doesn't do a thing! I followed the instructions carefully (I'm a good girl!). It says to use the cloth supplied, but no cloth came with it. It stays at 7. Maybe a dud one?
I had some Manutec kit stuff left, and it said it was 5.5. So I am taking it back and getting another Manutec kit - at least that works.
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We got a 4 in 1 Electronic Digital Soil Meter. It measures soil pH, temperature, moisture and ambient sun light. It's really cool and wasn't very expensive. i.e. under 30 bucks.
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Jackson Rogers says...
I found a soil monitoring device called Hornet, which monitors the level of moisture in the soil & and helps to fine tune the amount of water you apply to prevent over or under watering.
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Mike says...
The pH meters seem to better for paper weights than measuring pH.The Manutec kit is more trustworthy I reckon.
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Jackson Rogers says...
Have you ever tried to use - Hornet.
Hornet is a device which continuously measures the soil moisture & temperature in the soil & provides the idea that when to plant the crops either late or early. It also provides the information that how much fertilizers to apply & when. Hornet can also identify the pH & salinity of the soil.
For more details visit: http://hornetcentral.com.au/irrigated-agriculture/about/
Time: 11th September 2013 12:23am
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Reddyfox says...
Hornet sounds very attractive to me. Recently I got this link Microwave Moisture Sensor - they have a wide variety of moisture meters. I didn't choose any for myself, but I thought it might be useful for anybody here.
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Time: 25th September 2013 7:19pm
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Mike says...
Any product that is spammed is probably not worthwhile.It sounds like a waste of money.
Time: 25th September 2013 7:41pm
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rickywatson1 says...
Hello Amanda,
I am Ricky. I would like to introduce you with Hornet. It is a new product launched by KISS Monitoring. One of my friend suggested me to use Hornet in my Irrigated Land. I was little-bit confused because it is a new company and a new product. After using it I am surprised with its performance. Here are some plus points which I like:
1. It is simple and easy to use.
2. Because of its software we can view it using our i Pad.
3. It is very easy to install. Even you can install it.
http://hornetcentral.com.au/
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Time: 18th December 2013 7:59pm
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RGrandall says...
Hi Amanda. I use this soil moisture meter, and have used for almost 3 years now. It is pretty affordable - around $80, and as I'm sure you can tell, it has lasted me for quite a long while. I have used extremely cheap meters in the past - and don't get me wrong, they worked ok for the most part - I did run into some issues when I changed the salinity of the soil. Hope this helps!
Time: 26th June 2015 8:34am
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MickF says...
Whichever soil moisture meter you choose always keep in mind that the readings may not always tell you the full story. Recently, I wrote an article on the 5 common mistakes people make when measuring soil moisture: http://www.edaphic.com.au/5-common-mistakes-when-measuring-soil-moisture/
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Pitt says...
Moisture analyzer combines state-of-the-art heating with highly accurate weighing technology to deliver a faster, more precise method of moisture analysis. For more information, please contact by https://www.testextextile.com/?s=tf123
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