passiflora varieties (forum)

peter starts with ...
can anybody advise on wheather the
passiflora ligularis- sweet granadilla
passiflora maliformis- sweet callabash
passiflora laurifolia- water lemon
will fruit properly in pots out in the
open in adelaide.
also if not what about in pots in
a glass house which gets pretty hot in summer.
thanks.

Time: 31st January 2008 7:39pm

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Marina says...
The passiflora laurifolia - wild water lemon likes drier humid climates and the ground has to be moist year round. It might not grow as big as its home territory. It can be grown from seeds. Do you have one of these growing in a pot at the moment or are you intending to grow one?

Time: 4th March 2008 8:09pm

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peter says...
i have all above mentioned young
plants growing in pots.

the wild water lemon is
passiflora foetida.

i have the laurifolia which is
the water lemon.

does any body know if these varieties
are self polinating or not.

Time: 4th March 2008 9:28pm

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Marina says...
If you already have young plants of passiflora already in pots and they are going fine, I would stick to where you have them now.

Time: 6th March 2008 1:21pm

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scott says...
I would like to buy a plant of passiflora laurifolia.Does any body have one?

Time: 29th November 2008 7:09pm

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Georgie says...
Hi everyone,

I have two Passiflora Laurifolia (Sweet granadilla),

They're both large and have leaves about the size of a hand. They've been planted against a fence for about 4 years and i still have yet to get any flowers or fruit.
Is there any minerals or nutrients that help it to flower?
They get a good watering every few days.

Can anyone help??



Time: 28th December 2008 11:25pm

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peter says...
georgie,
you have mentioned two differant
passifloras.
the water lemon is laurifolia
the sweet granadilla is ligularis.
the water lemon doesnt have leaves the
size of a hand so you should have a
ligularis.
now i could be wrong but you probably
dont even have two ligularises,
they may be passiflora alata.
if you could post photos i may be able to confirm.

fertillizing with borax is suppossed to help induce flowering.

Time: 28th December 2008 11:53pm

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Jantina says...
It is almost a year since you first posted Peter,I have no personal experience with any of those particular passionfruit (not from lack of wanting to) but Susanna Lyle in Discovering fruit and nuts indicates that they should most likely fruit in Adelaide. Have you had any luck?

Time: 29th December 2008 9:01am

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Georgie says...
Hi Peter,

Here's a few pics of my plants, i think i got the names mixed up.
The fruit are meant to be large and look like maracas.

Georgie



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Time: 29th December 2008 10:41am

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peter says...
jantina,
yes it has been a year but these
plants were started from seed so takes
a little time. they were also set back
by winter and spider mites.
the only ones that i have had flowers
on are from plants bought from daleys,
passiflora alata (lillikoi) and a cross
between the alata and the giant granadilla. heaps of flowers but no fruit set yet, even with cross polination between the two.
the alata apparently is not self furtile so must be cross pollinated.

georgie,
yes you have ligularis (sweet granadilla) i was hoping they were not
as i also have some growing, not old enough yet for flowers.
four years is a long time with no flowers. do you prune and fertilize each year, flowers only grow on current seasons growth.
if you do get flowers you should hand
pollinate them between your two plants
if no fruit set try doing it at night time.
passiflora require a lot of fertilizer.

Time: 29th December 2008 11:17am

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Georgie says...
Hi Peter.

No i've never pruned either of my plants, not sure where to start. Where do i start cutting?
I do give them fertilizer, but probably not enough.



Time: 29th December 2008 10:06pm

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peter says...
hi georgie,
if you follow the main trunk up
from the ground untill you get to the first side branch then follow that
branch out till you get to its first
branch,follow that one out till you get to the first bud, which wont be very far, then snip of the rest of that branch right next to that first bud (leaving that first bud on)
then go along the same first side
branch up from the ground, past the
branch now with only one bud on it and
repeat leaving only one bud on this branch also.
go along the length of the branch doing
the same thing then go to the second
branch up from the ground and repeat.
then the third, fourth and so on.
hope this makes sense.
wont matter if you make some mistakes.
you should probably wait untill half way through winter, fertilize and prune.

Time: 30th December 2008 7:56pm

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peter says...
georgie,
hope your still watching this forum.
would you be interested in either selling or swapping something for some
cuttings of your sweet granadilla.

Time: 3rd January 2009 4:29pm

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John says...
Peter,
I just happened to get onto this site and you seemed to know passionfruit. I think I have a sweet granadilla but not sure. Can you confirm from the pictures?
This is the 4th year and it really only started to set fruit this year. I hand pollinate all the hundreds of flowers every afternoon and only have about 25 fruit in all. Last year despite pollinating thousands of flowers I only had 2 fruit but they were very nice and sweet. However, now that I finally have a few fruit, the plant started to lose a lot of leaves. they just go yellow and drop off. Some of skin of the maturing fruit started to split and start to rot from the bottom. Some of the fruit started to deform and drop off.I noticed some fruit simply stopped growing as previously I can see them growing. It is watered and fertilised regularly. It appears the vines are dying.I manged to harvest the fruit as they turn yellow before the skin start to split .Although the skin is split, the inside is still good and sweet. Would love your comments as to what is happening . thanks.
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peter says...
john can you put up a front on picture
of a leaf such as georgies on the 19th
of dec.
one of the stems would be good to.

Time: 26th March 2009 10:41pm

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Phil. says...
On another note, Peter, did you have any luck with getting hold of P. antioquiensis? I received seven dried and tatty looking seeds from the Scilly Is. which I soaked for a couple of days in fermented passionfruit juice. They plumped up nicely before I planted them so I hope to get a few out of that lot.
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peter says...
gday phil,

yes ive got three differant batches
now from, usa, nz and the uk.
let me know if you dont have any
luck with yours and ill send you some.


Time: 27th March 2009 5:16pm

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John says...
Hi Peter,
In response to your request on 26th March.
There are not much leaves left on the vines now, but I did take a picture about a year ago. Hope this helps.
are you able to throw any light on why the leaves dropped off so rapidly, and why the skin of the fruit is spliting .

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peter says...
hi john,
its still a bit hard to tell from this
picture.
can you get up a photo of a flower
taken from front on.

the leaves of a sweet granadilla and
the fragrant granadilla (alata)
are nearly the same.

apart from that have a look at the branches,
if they are round it should be a
sweet granadilla, if they are square
or wing stemmed it is probably the
alata.
s far as the yellow leaves go are you
fertilizig enough. passion fruit are
heavy feeders and one site says that a
mature plant can use 3 pounds of fertilizer 4 times a year, although
that does sound a little excessive to me.


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John says...
Hi Peter,
There are no flowers now as most of the leaves have dropped. The vines are squarish as you can see in one of the shots, but the stem is roundish .As far as I can remember, the flowers have no fragrance and the fruit is sweet.I fertilise it twice a year with chicken manure.

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peter says...
hi john,
the square branches in pictures 3 and 4
says it is not a sweet granadilla.
i would say that it is a passiflora
alata also called the fragrant
granadilla.
it is odd that you say the flowers dont smell because the one i had did have
very strong smelling flowers.
im not sure how long this type live
for but you could take some cuttings
in case it is getting to old.
i would also fertilize a bit more often.
hope this helps.

Time: 2nd April 2009 7:59pm

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John says...
Hi Peter,
Thanks for confirming it is not a sweet granadilla. After doing further research on the net and with your information, I tend to agree with you that I have a fragrant granadilla. Also the fruit does not have a hard shell which I understand that the sweet granadilla has.

Can we grow it from a cutting? I tried it before but it did not work. Maybe I was'nt doing it right or got the right part of the cutting. Can you explain how I should go about growing a cutting please.
Thanks for your help.

Time: 5th April 2009 8:01am

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peter says...
to take a cutting,
fill a pot with seed raising mix
or good soil.
snip off about 6 inches of growing tip.
remove lower leaves, cut large ones
in half.
make a diagonal cut with a sharp blade
just under a leaf node.
dip in rooting gel or powder and
remove excess.
inset most of the cutting in the pot.
place some wet soil in the bottom of a
large clear plastic bag and place pot with cutting on top of soil.
spray cutting with a weak solution of
fertilizer.
tie off top of bag with something and
poke a small hole near the top for
ventilation.
each weak open bag replace air in bag by blowing into bag and spray again with weak folair spray.
in about 8 weeks or sooner it shoud have roots.


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John says...
Hi Peter,

Thanks for the detailed instructions.
It is no wonder why my attempts did'nt take!
Thanks again for your help.

Time: 6th April 2009 7:27pm

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Elaine says...
thks for the education-- with the alata cuttings described above- what is the purpose of the soil in the bag? This year is the first time I've had flowers on my 2nd alata vine and both vines set fruit on the 3 flowers I crosspollinated. It's been a problem having the flowers syncing, but 2 more appeared today on both vines.I have another young vine that I think?? is a cross between the big granadilla and alata (lost the label). would it be worth trying to pollinate it with the alata? I would dearly love a lingularis. Some time ago I had some success with the large granadilla but the possums knobbled the fruit and the vines died.Am very appreciative for the pruning advice..

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peter says...
hi elaine,
the wet soil in the bag is to provide
moisture inside the bag.
i too have got 2 vines of the cross
between the giant granadilla and alata.
they should all cross pollinate each
other.

Time: 5th May 2009 11:42pm

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elaine says...
thks peter-- another question-- should I delay the cuttings striking until it warms up again as the growing tips are likely?? more active then, than those from winter prunings. My vines are still green and growing-- they really appreciated the drought break--but soon they'll probably rest for winter.They have heaps of flower buds and I pollinated 4 more flowers today with more to come.Does anyone know the viability -timewise- of the pollen, or is it a 1 day thing only--I hope the coming cold wont stop the fruit maturing!

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peter says...
it shouldnt matter too much on the timming of taking cuttings because its the roots that you want to grow and not the growing tip.
if you did it now they would be ready to plant in spring.
it would be best to use pollen on the
same day but you should be able to keep
it in the fridge a couple of extra days.


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amanda says...
Hi Adelaide Peter-the-passionfruit-guru!

I recently purchased a 'new' WA variety called Big red - P cinnabarberi (or something like that - it's too dark to go out and read the label now!)
Do u know anything about it? I can't find any info.

Also - I live in a bit of a hot climate - is this no good for my black nellie kellies?

I have healthy n fruitful panamas but also these other ones called sunshine specials which just don't seem to be as vigorous although they fruit ok. They are all 1 yr olds and my 3yr old black N.K is still ok despite getting scorched by the shed every summer - so no sign of the nasties...yet...

Not very interesting stuff - but i would appreciate your advice.


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peter says...
hi amanda,
if your new vine is a p cinnabarina
then it is a common red passion fruit
commonly found in nsw and victoria.

is your 3yr old black nk producing fruit
a lot of people dislike this type
because of poor growing and fruiting
habits.
i dont know of the sunshine special ones
what is the fruit like.
are your pannama grafted?



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amanda says...
hey peter
thanks for replying.

No the NK black not fruitfull - makes me sad cos' there is something quite special in their flavour i think. But...it gets little love - was an experiment and the shed really does get hot.

The red n gold panamas are grafted and seem to be very happy so far. The 1 yr old against a big, new, north facing limestone wall is going crazy with huge heavy fruit n flowers. I am surprised at this given the alkalinity of the wall and the soil. I think it loves the warm wall.

The sunshine special is good, big with lots of sweet pulp and a touch of that special p'fruit tartness. It looks a bit like a pan red but more round.

How ironic that what is advertised as a "new" WA fruit is actually a common plant from over East!! What does it taste like?

i am a junkie for p'fruit and even ate the wild 'stinkers' when travelling up north - they were surprisingly ok! (so I am no judge of character it seems...)

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peter says...
you could try a heavy prune and a heavy fertilizing on the nk at the start of
spring and see if that helps.

i havent tried a red passionflower
before so dont know what there like.
they have funny looking flowers so
would be interesting to see what sort
of fruit they produce.
should get yourself one of those
giant granadilla- lilliko crosses.

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amanda says...
Thanks Peter -
was wondering which ones to choose from Dalys and thought that one sounded interesting. I think i will grab a super sweet too. Got 2 baby NK in the orchard - primo spot there so if they don't grow then they will get removed.

Also having a go at banana pass (it's a childhood thing!) but it gets a bit hot here. I have them in a spot that is protected from the hot afternnon sun so fingers crossed.

The sunshine is a seedling - it leaves are variable (mostly the 3 pronged) but occasional singles. My 1yr old has got a tiny yellow speckling in many of the leaves and so I have put the 2 new ones into quarantine until I find out what it is. Do you think it may be some kind of virus?

I let u know about the common red this spring!


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peter says...
amanda,
sorry couldnt tell you what the yellow
speckling on the leaves could be.

Time: 17th May 2009 7:04pm

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amanda says...
PS Peter - had a better look at the sunshine special - it's a P.edulis and notated as a (large) black pass'fruit. Must be a hybrid between black n red?

I also looked at the pan red on steroids - I can't actually tell anymore if it's grafted - but possibly not (my others are)- i get a bit confused now - must keep a diary!

I think I might take the speckled leaves to the Ag Dept - but still interested in your thoughts.

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peter says...
can you post a photo of them.

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amanda says...
I will try peter - i'm not very good at photo-shop (too busy in the garden!)- give me a few days to immerse myself in the techno world! ....

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amanda says...
Hi Adelaiade Peter - here are those photos.
This is the Panama red - a seedling and not a NKell brand - it's the one against the north facing limestone wall and appears to be on steroids! Perhaps the wall helps to keep it's feet toasty at night...

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amanda says...
And here is the sunshine special - the seedling 'black'
Don't know if u will be able to mke out the speckling...
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peter says...
hi amanda,
i can see the speckling but dont know
what it is.
do you fertilize regularly?
a mature passi. can use 3 lbs. of
fertilizer 3 or 4 times a year.


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amanda says...
Hi peter - yup they get get all sorts of stuff...cow/sheep/horse poo, iron sulphate, gypsum, clay, straw, B n Bone+10% potash, dynamic lifter - whatever I have around (even the dogs hair when he gets shorn in summer!) but I always give them citrus fertiliser in the spring (that's was a tip from a professional plantation grower in Carnarvon) It all seems to work fine. Our soil is sandy with excellent drainage and we get no frost.

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amanda says...
Hi Adelaide Peter - remember the speckled passionfuit leaves? - his is what Ag Dept guy said (and I will send down the specimens too...)

As well as the mottles and spotted leaves, stunted plants and woody bumpy skins of the fruits are indicative of passion fruit woodiness virus. Could you please send samples of the leaves and fruits, if possible, to Pests and Diseases Information Service at the Department of Agriculture and Food, or to Ms Brenda Coutts Plant Pathology Service who will examine the leaves free of charge.





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elaine says...
at last the first of the alata fruit are changing colour to orange-- Dont know if I can pick them at this stage (still greenish at top third of the fruit) and finish ripening inside-- I know the possums will grab them at the right time if I delay-- They knobbled all my fuji persimmons overnight and I really would like some alatas.I've waited years for a crop!
please advise..thks--E

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peter says...
it would be best to leave them to fully ripen on the vine but you could pick the most advanced one to see how it ripens inside.

to deter the possoms i saw on burkes backyard that if you put black tea in
a spray bottle and spray it one the fruit it keeps them away.

they also said you can do they same thing with wisarbi paste.

you could also try wrapping one in a brown paper bag and see if that
fools them.

are you able to post pictures?
would be good to see the sliced fruit.
if you can put somthing next to them
for size comparison.

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Elaine says...
re Alata--have cut and tried the fruit-- it has a nice honey-passion flavour. The seeds being larger than a common passionfruit (which I normally dont bother to remove) present a slight problem. I squashed the pulp around in a strainer to keep the seeds separate and used the juice to flavour some plain yoghurt.have enclosed a pic as requested with matchbox-- thks E
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peter says...
thanks for the pics, they look good.

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amanda says...
I have a passionfruit vampire..does anyone know what it might be? ..the skins of the 2/3rds ripe ones are blemished and the fruit crinkly and dehydrated looking like the life sucked out of them - and then they drop off! grrr...
(they are getting plenty of water etc etc)

Time: 29th June 2009 10:43pm

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amanda says...
This is what the fruit looks like (from above post) not very good focus sorry. The green fruits are fine...any ideas? I haven't noticed any bug activity - but the vine is really dense.
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Time: 30th June 2009 12:57pm

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peter says...
is that a panama gold?
last year the few fruit i got on mine over winter did the same thing and when cut open had very little pulp.


Time: 30th June 2009 2:05pm

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amanda says...
Hi Peter - no it's a Pan red trying to get ripe!! The vine is loaded but every time the fruit get to this stage - this happens. I'm so mad!

It's very dry inside despite the fact it's got lots of seeds (although this could also be lack of maturation? - are they normally dry b4 they ripen?...I have never picked a green one to see..a bit blasphemous for me..:))

The sunshine special over the other side of the garden didn't have this problem and I ate them all last week.

Time: 30th June 2009 4:44pm

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peter says...
does it do the same thing when they are ripenning during summer?

Time: 30th June 2009 6:25pm

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amanda says...
Alas Peter - it's the first crop - plant not even 1yr old yet :( I hope it's just a transient bug. A friend of Mums pointed out the tiny brown 'scabs' and mentioned something about a sucking insect - I'll have to track him down and see what he knows.

Time: 30th June 2009 7:29pm

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amanda says...
Hi Peter - i looked at shop p'fruit n they have all those little brown marks etc - so i think u may be onto something - it's probably just too cold for pan reds to ripen in winter.

I turned the retic off for winter awhile back so I'm going to give it a good soak just in case (as the pulp is dry and fruit "light") - after that I can't see what else to do?

Time: 8th July 2009 10:37am

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peter says...
youll have to wait till summer and see
if they ripen then.
if they do then we know that fruit during winter isnt the best.
has the fruit in the picture above
gotten any reder?

Time: 8th July 2009 7:00pm

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amanda says...
No Peter - they fall off at about the stage in the photo..boo hoo!! I have one that looks like it might make it. The yellow colour starts on the shaded side and then the whole fruit goes yellow..making me think it's probly the weather...(as the purple sunshine special ripened..maybe more cool tolerant?)
Ah well - we live n learn...if they all fall off then maybe next year I will remove the fruit n save the vine some wasted effort! My peach tree is loaded with flowers and fruit also...

Time: 8th July 2009 8:31pm

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macleaymac says...
If there is one insect that loves passion vines its (wood) slaters. Scrape away around the main trunk of the vine and see if its got all the bark intact..Slater activity often shows a fibrous stem where they have eaten the outer layers. No bark, noo sap,, get it.

Time: 10th July 2009 7:24pm

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amanda says...
Thanks for warning macleaymac - there's none in my garden at present but i will be sure to watch out for them...nothing gets to eat my passionfruit n get away with it!! ;-)

Time: 11th July 2009 11:00am

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amanda says...
Hi Adelaide Peter - here's an update - the cut fruit is a fallen one - tastes fine except a little over-ripe flavour - which was odd as u can see it's not very red for a pan red. I have decided to try an remove some foliage to expose fruits to sun a bit more. They look healthy otherwise don't they?
It's got to be the weather I reckon.
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amanda says...
PS Peter - just so u can see i'm not mad ... it's definitely a pan red... ;)
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Time: 12th July 2009 5:03pm

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peter says...
yea that plant looks really good
and healthy.
if you hadnt of posted the ps i would
have said picture no. 1 was a
panama gold. i agree about the weather.


Time: 12th July 2009 5:52pm

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amanda says...
Thanks Peter..I guess the next question is whether it will flower in spring if it is already carrying half ripe fruit!?

Time: 13th July 2009 11:31am

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SeaLady says...
Phil what variety of passion fruit did you post - picture from March I think? Is it as pink as it shows in the picture or red??



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SeaLady says...
I live in Melbourne Beach Florida and have about 5 kinds of passion fruit, having trouble getting some of them to flower.

Someone above mentioned borax - how much and how often and on the roots or sprayed on the leaves?

I also bought a sweet calabash which is fruiting very well, but the first one I found on the ground and opened was not ripe.

So I waited on the next ones I found - all dried up and moldy inside. How do I know when they are ripe?? I had to use a hammer to open them.

Time: 2nd August 2009 7:09am

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Skippy says...
Hi Amanda,
I have 2 cents worth that work for black passion fruit and Pannama Gold. (1)feed all growing fruit trees or vines etc with a bag of good cow poo twice a year at least.
(2)To get the black passion fruit to flower throw a bucket of disolved Thrive both over the vine and water in I make this bucket of Thrive a little stronger than the directions because I have a clay mix of sand for garden.
(3)To help sweeten winter fruit all so throw a bucket of Amgrow Organix harvest or Seasol at and around the plant. Passion fruit are very heavy uses of minerals.
Because my passion fruit burn from the hot sun in the summer shade cloth helps.
If you have a great number of fruit start to drop which are still green or unripe the vine is screaming for deep watering every day, your soil will controll this aspect.
Yes I am a novice gardener but grow the best giant crops of this addictive fruit all year around. My vines are black passion fruit and pannama gold and the good quality fruit is helped by being planted around the chook house which I lay a dense carpet of pea straw inside the chook yard to keep the young hens happy which sweetens the stink you can get from a hen house pluss the worms composting it all and happy passion fruit and vines.
I learn so much from this page I felt compeled to share.
Happy growing from Skippy


Time: 19th August 2009 9:59am

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Fruit trees and blossoms
I planted out a small home orchard and the Washington navels were not flowering so out came my secret weapon = a bucket of Thrive, which I threw all over the trees and around the base one tree needed about 3 buckets and with the cow poo and pea straw the crop was great and the oranges need about at least 8 to 12 weeks in the sun to ripen to sweet once they turn colour.
The Mayer Lemon tree is my pride and glory it would make any one happy the fruit is very big and of a top quality, this makes the best marmalade.
The delightfull Flordagold peach tree is in full bloom.
In Tim Eva's Nursery in Toodjay Road Perth he has a special dirt mix that he swears by and my Flordagold peach is testamony to what ever this fruit tree mix is made of as I have a very strong small tree out doing every thing. My orchard has many fruit trees and the next order will be a Pecan nut and 3 macadamia nut trees.
I like to use sheep and cow poo as they have a good return for the time and effot with the tree crops and pea straw or lucern and mushroom compost,and seasol or Amgrow Organix, as a result I dont spray as per normal only for that black soot on the citrus tress some times.The sea weed mix will send curly leaf packing no need to spray and I apply this by the bucket fulls as soon as curly leaf appears and it causes the diseased leaves to grow new healthy ones. I remove the diseased leaves and throw out in the house hold rubbish. I encourage birds into the garden and they sit on the tomarto stakes waiting for a bug to move and they dive in to get it. I try to be eco frendly but some times I just have a lot more to learn. I take notes from these pages and feel good that some one else has good answers, thanks every one
Have a happy blossom time this spring from Skippy


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amanda says...
Hey Skippy - thanks for the info! Sounds like u are doing all the right things to me :) It's interesting to me about the passionfruit - and I agree - they are thirsty and hungry plants.

I didn't 'click' what was happening with mine at first - I turned off the retic for autumn rains and sometime later the fruit started to wrinkle and drop off, unripe. I gave the vine a good soak and have been doing so ever since - it's stopped dropping fruit!

Keep sharing won't u! :)

Time: 19th August 2009 5:19pm

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Skippy says...
Hi Amanda thanks for your reply I had a look at your garden page and you have a lovely interest and things are growing well the goji berry was just amazing I think I will try one hope you have good returns from it.
I have a dog and he ate the blueberries!
Half ripe and my first good crop on a 2nd yr shrub.
Happy gardening
Skippy

Time: 23rd August 2009 7:52am

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amanda says...
Thank you Skippy.. and yes - both my dogs eat fruit n veg - particularly our old apples.. I didn't plan on them raiding the orchard when I planted it!! Thank god they don't know what strawberries are.. :)

Time: 23rd August 2009 11:52am

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J Franco says...
Hello!

Does anyone has any tips for passiflora herbertiana and passiflora alata? The seeds never germinate!

Thank you.

Time: 14th June 2010 2:52am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Have you tried soaking them overnight? I use a thermos (vacuum flask) filled with warm (not hot) water and leave them to swell a little then plant them the next day. They can take up to six weeks to germinate all the same.
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peter says...
hi phil
did you end up getting any antioquenensis seeds to grow,
mine ended up getting to about 4 inches
then died.

Time: 23rd September 2010 8:49pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes initially they looked very promising, but I repotted them over the warmer months and only have a single survivor. I don't know what the secret to this species is, it thrives to begin with then fades away at an early age.

Time: 23rd September 2010 9:36pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I had some P. caerulea kindly sent to me from the US a couple of weeks ago, the blue passionflower. Will try my luck with it, colorful flower at least.
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Time: 23rd September 2010 9:39pm

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peter says...
hi phil
do you know that the caerulea is the
one nellie kelly use as their rootstock
and suckers everywhere. it also has a supposedly inedible fruit which actually look really good.
having said that i have one growing in a pot so i can try the fruit.
they are also supposed to be good
polinators for other varieties.
im going to try it on an alata when
they flower.

would you still be interested in trying
some more antioquinensis seeds,
i can do some seed swaping with someone in nz if we can source some seeds
for her.

ive got two huge p.antioquinensis x
mollissima = p.exioquinensis
flowering and fruiting at the moment.

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Jason says...
Caerulea is indeed the infamous Nelly Kelly rootstock. It's a hugely monumental mistake ever letting that thing loose in your garden :p. It makes an orange fruit it is edible but tastes pretty average, the flowers as always are pretty impressive :).

I need some new antioquiensis seed if anyone want's to do a deal for something, I've had one get to the stage of flowering before but got hammered in the Summer after that. I want to try it again in a cooler more shaded spot. I figure it wants to grow in those kind of conditions like Ligularis

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Gino says...
To those who are growing/have p. caerulea...the fruits are quite edible, I eat all the time. Just be sure they are ripe. Also, p. caerulea is a great addition to any passie collection, as it will pollinate many other species that would otherwise not flower/fruit.
Here's a link to place in states that sells seed, and also photos of ripe fruits:
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/blue_passion_flower.htm


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amanda says...
Peter - that's a good idea to put it in a pot. The pot could also be sunk in the ground maybe? That could slow suckers down...
I planted one of my vines in a large plastic bin (drilled many holes in the bottom of it) and sunk the whole thing in the ground - this was because I wanted to stop the roots of the acacia tree from invading (and I wanted the vine to grow over the acacia). It worked well and the vine sent roots out from the drainage holes etc..and it was esier to look after in the ground.

Just a thought.

Time: 24th September 2010 9:30am

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peter says...
jason
what colour flowers did your antioquinensis have and how long was
the stalk that the flowers were on.
we can do some seed swapping with
someone, i have some of the sds they
are looking for but still trying to
find the following.
black sapote
davidson plum
brazilian grape- jaboticaba
jackfriut
rose apple

gino
i have bought antioquinensis seed from
tradewinds before only to find out
a year or so later that they were not
the real thing but p. exioquinensis
which i have still got growing now.

amanda
ive been using half 44 gal. drums for
many things for a while such as white
sopote, peach, figs, and dragon fruit
they certainly come in handy.




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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Peter I have stacks of (fresh) black sapote seed, there are very large Davidson plums lying all over the place and could probably get jackfruit when they are in season. Would like to attempt antioquiensis again, maybe in a jiffy pot which doesn't get disturbed when planting out. Keep your eyes open if you see a seed source. Phil.

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peter says...
hi phil
i already have a source in nz, i can swap these other seeds ive mentioned.
when is jackfruit season.
if we can find brazillian grape
and rose apple i can contact her and
find out when the antioquienensis
seeds would be ready.


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Phil@Tyalgum says...
OK sounds promising - there is a huge rose apple tree near me which is in flower, I'm not sure what time of year the fruit are around tho. Will collect some more Davidsome plum seeds today - I think they are the North Queensland variety, very large fruit, the size of a Victoria or Angelina plum, and glossy rather than fuzzy leaves. Jackfruit I think are around summer/autumn up this way, easy to get hold of. Thanks again.

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Peter the species of Davidson's plum I have is D. pruriens, in case you wanted to inform your NZ contact before we send them. Larger fruit than the NSW varieties.

Time: 29th September 2010 11:49am

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peter says...
hi phil
just so happens that she has asked for
d.pruriens, so lucky there.
do you want any red fleshed pepino seeds. she is going to send me some when
they are ready although she said they
were a little dissapointing because
they produced hard fruit.


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Tom says...
Keeping passiflora in pots works quite well. We saw what unconfined plants did in our neighbour's yard and decided that our passions should be contained. We just started our third pot and have six species shared among the three pots now. I'm sure that Blue (caerulea) is at least partly responsible for pollinating Incense (incarnata x cinnicata) as the latter made beautiful purple flowers (the most spectacular of all ours) but no fruit until Blue and Liliko'i moved in with it. We use the juice from caerulea's orange fruit in lemonade and to make cupcakes, and they're great for that. I never heard that they weren't edible and think they have a great strong, tart flavour. Our plants are just about to go dormant now, but the caerulea doesn't seem to pay attention to the same rules as the others and is still growing longer each day.

We can certainly recommend potting them all with a sturdy trellis and sharing the pot among three species. Our first pot is 3.5 years old now with very happy occupants. This year, that pot produced about 30 fruits and a continuous run of flowers from late Winter until just last week (about eight months).
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Peter I'd be happy to get hold of some red pepino. NZ doesn't seem to have eBay so had seen some on their own version of buy/swap/sell but you need to be a NZ resident to register. So sounds good. I have grown a batch of pepino from seed this year, around 30 plants, which have started flowering after only two months in the ground, so hoping to diversify the genetics. I have the Davidsonia seed ready to send to you if you could e-mail me.
wilkenna@bigpond.com.

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I think I might have cracked how to grow Passiflora antioquiensis. Have a few healthy seedlings in the ground at last, sowed them direct into jiffy pots and didn't disturb the roots whatsover. Just planted pot and all in the garden next to a likely support and they haven't had the usual setback you often see with this species. Choosing the right (shaded) location important with these fusspots. Also, if using plastic pots, don't put in direct sun - they overheat very quickly and the plants simply die. I have also planted a plastic tube with P. antioquiensis directly into the ground after enlarging the drainage holes, seems to be powering away.
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Jason says...
Hey Phil where did you get seed? I have grown antioquinesis here in a not very good spot to the point of flowers before but it got rounded up by accident :S (I didn't do it)

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
A kind fellow forum member sent me some seed which originated in NZ so probably the genuine article. Whiz me an e-mail and I'll send you some spares.
wilkenna@bigpond.com

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micarle says...
Phil thats a really nice Passionfruit!! Like a Mollissima on roids, And when u say its hard to grow? do u mean its tender or just needs shelter from the sun??? Good work mate

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes comes from cooler mountain areas in Colombia, very difficult to replicate the right climate. Most seedlings die when repotted or on a hot day. Temperamental to say the least.

Time: 20th April 2011 8:55pm

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micarle says...
Yeah nice!! Your photo's are great so i will try get some seeds!! thansk mate


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peter says...
hi phil,
good to here they germinated ok.
how big are they now?
did you have any luck with the carica
seeds?

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murray says...
heres what you have to do to induce flowering early in passiflora there are some premium flowering additives such as 1 i use called pk13-14 you wont find it in any normal nurserys mostly online in ebay or hydroponic shops it has super high quality phosphorus and potassium in concentrate form derived from the finest sources on earth and can be absorbed really quickly through roots only feed once and when flowers appear feed again this should take around 4 to 6 weeks to start forming fruit but you will need a pollinator from the same species or similar genetic make up!

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