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We bought a red pawpaw last year at Daleys and it fruited this year, unbelievable from a plant about 45cm high to then over ten feet tall in one year. However after harvesting masses of pawpaws and sharing them with the flying foxes, the next crop was looking like it was going to need a ladder to reach so we had been told you can cut the top off and the fruit will come from the sides. Unfortunately our plant now looks like it is going to die. I did put an unturned flower pot over the top to control the moisture, but I think it is a fallacy that you can cut the top off and the plant will survive as we gave it every chance. What do you think?

Time: 22nd June 2007 3:41pm

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Jan says...
Hi Bett. My parents live in Brisbanes WEST. They cut the top of their yellow pawpaw for the same reason as you did. They are in their 70s. Mum was so proud of the crop on the tree now. Without counting it looks like 100s growing all up the sides of the tree. Within reach. The one thing that we always make sure of is, that we cut above a branching point(node). We usually cut leaving 6inches to a foot above these side branches. Not on the single trunk. Hope this helps. This worked for their mango tree also but usually the mango fruits after the second year of regrowth. Incidently, their pawpaw is the best tasting I have tried. No Iodine taste. The bad thing is there are hardly any seeds in the fruit to try and grow some more.

Time: 22nd June 2007 6:13pm

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BETT Taylor says...
Hi Jan - thanks for your reply to my pawpaw drama. My red pawpaw was slowly dying so I trimmed it right back to the wood that wasn' t rotting and now it has only a circle of good wood and the rest the hole in the middle was filled with smelly water. So I drained all that out with a cloth and then used absorbent paper to wipe it out clean and let the sun dry it out, then I have put two plastic bags over the top of it and held them in place wth an upturned plant pot so it is waterproof now. But I still don't like my chances for recovery, but I have given it the best bet - where are the nodes on a pawpaw? do you mean above the side branches? Cheers BETT

Time: 29th June 2007 3:49pm

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Jan says...
Hi Bett. Yes that is what I meant. Just couldn't think of the right name to call them. Still can't. Good luck with the PawPaw. Have you looked at the link on this site regarding PawPaws.It shows a PawPaw cut off short with a tremendous yield on it. You may want to address that member on what they did. Regards Jan.

Time: 29th June 2007 8:55pm

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Jan says...
Hey Bett. Here is the link for you to cut and paste in your address bar. Or you will find it in the BLOG section of the forum. Regards Jan.

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/blog/2007/05/4-month-old-paw-paw-cutting-grown.html

Time: 29th June 2007 9:34pm

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Correy says...
Here is the video that kath did on the paw paw that was grown from a cutting. Also a picture of me standing infront of this paw paw.


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Time: 29th June 2007 10:15pm

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Kath says...
A tip a customer gave me the other day. When cutting back a paw paw cut it part way through the trunk, leave it until it begins to produce shoots below the wound and then cut the top off completely. Instead of using a flower pot on top of your old stump try using a tin as most flower pots have drainage holes that will let the moisture in. My neighbour has a resident green tree frog living in his gnarly old paw paw stump.

Time: 11th July 2007 3:58pm

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Cat says...
When I lived over in Hawaii for near seven years, I had many fruit trees including paw paw (we call it papaya). To stop the plants getting too tall we put a large coffee tin over the top of it. You could also use a small bucket of some sort. It doesn't kill the tree and it stunts it's growth. The tree still produced good fruit from the branches it put off at the side.

Time: 9th September 2007 11:40pm

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Franks says...
Hallo,

How do you take a cutting from a pawpaw?
The leave?
Take the top of a pawpaw?
Can someone tell me.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Franks.

Time: 17th September 2007 10:31pm

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Kath says...
We usually cut the tip out of the pawpaw and get it to shoot from the trunk, these shoots are then used as the cutting material.

Time: 26th September 2007 2:45pm

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Lyn says...
Can anyone tell me if pawpaws will grow in large pots? I have just purchased a bisexual pawpaw plant and would like to grow it in a pot. I grow my citrus in large pots and they do just fine!
Thanks
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Time: 9th January 2008 7:25pm

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Kath says...
Yes they can grow well in pots, the cutting grown and grafted ones would be best for this as they produce sooner and are shorter in height. Seedlings will tend to grow too high and will be short lived in pots.

Time: 10th January 2008 12:10pm

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Lyn says...
Thanks Kath - Is there an ideal size pot I should use?
The pawpaw I've bought is a Carica Papaya and says it will grow to 8m.
Thanks again
Lyn

Time: 11th January 2008 7:31am

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Kath says...
The bigger the pot the better, it would need to be at least 35L. We have grown them into the bonsai bags here at the nursery successfully, these are 35L. These can then be slipped inside an ornamental pot if you want them to look fancier.

Time: 14th January 2008 1:43pm

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Correy says...
Here is a picture of a paw paw in a pot.
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Time: 15th January 2008 10:25am

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Lyn says...
You are joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In such a small pot????????????????
C'mon - be nice!!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha
Lyn


Time: 15th January 2008 7:42pm

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Lyn says...
I have a round pot that is 55cm diameter at the top and 35cm deep (to the reservoir) and was wondering if it would be ok until I saw Correy's reply - I think it may be big enough hey?
Thanks
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Time: 15th January 2008 7:47pm

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Correy says...
Does anybody know what this red fungus on the pawpaw branches is and how to treat it?
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Time: 6th February 2008 1:58pm

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Lyn says...
I would think you would need to drench the soil around the tree with Fungus Fighter or some other fungal treatment - ask at the local nursery. Has it only happened since we have had all the recent rain in Brisbane? Pawpaws like water to run past their root system but cannot tolerate wet feet.
Lyn


Time: 7th February 2008 2:13pm

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John says...
Corry, try a wek milk solution on it. Looks smillar to mildue on grapes. Only %5 and no more than 10%.

Time: 7th February 2008 2:26pm

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Correy says...
Thanks Lyn and John. Yes we have been getting a lot of rain here in "Sunny Brisbane" which I think is the culprit. I have a good potting mix though with lot of drainage.

I will give that Milk solution a go John. I have 2 in bonsai bags up against a wall growing side by side and one is powering ahead and the other is stunted in growth by this fungal infection.

Time: 7th February 2008 10:51pm

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John says...
My paw paw is about three months old now and has grown from seedling over a meter. Its only supposed to grow 2 meters, but it looks like is starting to flower already. But thats not my problem, my wife and her sis want to eat the young delicous leaves.
Anyone now how to prevent these pest from eating my trees. hehehehe
I planting another this week.

Time: 10th February 2008 5:35pm

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Kath says...
Spray your tree with durian juice, that should keep them away. Haha

Time: 11th February 2008 12:23pm

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John says...
Hay Kath we have 53 durians growing with more to come. Duriums are an attraction to my girls. hehehehe and me of coarse.

Time: 11th February 2008 7:12pm

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John says...
Hay Kath we have 53 durians growing with more to come. Duriums are an attraction to my girls. hehehehe and me of coarse.

Time: 11th February 2008 7:12pm

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cathy says...
hi guys!is anyone got the solution to this pawpaw problem: we have a few small pawpaw trees 1metre+ and they have a beetle inside the trunk at the top, making the trunk contortionned and rotting and the top leaves, the new ones, all shrivelled. should we cut the rotten bit and take it away from the others and hope for the best or is there a natural born spray that we can use to save it??
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Time: 28th March 2008 10:24am

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Pam says...
Hi. I also have a problem with a beetle inside the trunk of the top of the pawpaw tree and need some help. I have put in new trees and they also have the problem. Can some one help me.

Time: 4th May 2008 7:48am

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peter says...
if you can see the beetle try sticking it with a strong pin, even if you
have to stick through the trunk.



Time: 4th May 2008 4:59pm

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andy says...
we have moved into a new house it has three bisexual pawpaws in the hot house, it keeps dropping its leaves also the white flowers dry out before opening and were do the fruit grow? they are about two meters high.Can some one help me please

Time: 10th September 2008 8:28pm

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Pam says...
I have lots of pawpaws and they like water but not wet feet. They have to be well drained. This may be the cause for the flowers dropping off.

If the fruit is too high it may be time to cut the trunk off and put a can over the cut so water doesn't rot the center and a new suckers should grow up beneath the cut.

How do you know it is a bisexual pawpaw?

Time: 15th September 2008 7:59pm

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Irene says...
I have some paw paw trees with black spots underneath the lower leaves. Does anyone know what this is? The trees are 12 months old and have started to flower but then drop off. They are planted on a slope in clay type soil which I have tried to improve and are also growing close to bananas.

Time: 18th September 2008 10:30pm

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Lyn says...
Black spots under the leaves - leaves need to be sprayed with copper sulphate! Seems to be a common problem lately.

Time: 30th September 2008 9:24pm

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Irene says...
Thanks for the info Lyn, will give the copper sulphate a try. Regards Irene





Time: 2nd October 2008 7:47pm

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Helen says...
Can someone please tell me when do I harvest the Paw Paws. We have a lot on the trees and I don't know if I should pick them green or wait for the colour to change. Some of them are huge.

Time: 21st October 2008 2:38pm

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peter says...
the top of one of my pawpaws has died
and now there is three new branches
growing up from just under the dead top.
should all these new branches be left
on or should two be cut of to leave
one new top.

ther are also sturdy branches growing
out of the trunk half way down, is
this normal.


Time: 18th November 2008 10:17pm

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Kerrie says...
We are an aussie family working in Fiji. I have 3 pawpaw trees in our yard, all are extremely tall, but one supertall, it's bearing around fifty fruit, all green bar one or two that the bats have got to. How do I get the fruit off, without chopping the tree down, and would that be the better option, to chop the tree in half above a branch? It's about 15m high, with 4 arms coming out at around the 7.5m mark. All 4 arms bear fruit and the top does too. Any suggestions?? Locals reckon a long stick but I think I'd have problems finding a 15m stick...

Time: 18th December 2008 11:33am

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Lyn says...
Long term it is best to cut the tree to a manageable height - sometimes it means losing some of the fruit - but any Asian families will be glad of the unripe fruit as they use it in curries and salads - put some alfoil or a tin on the cut trunk to prevent water rotting the trunk. If bats are getting fruit - get some onion bag material(sometimes you get onions, oranges in this type of open weave bag) and cover fruit to allow you to ripen fruit without being attacked. Hope you get to enjoy some!!!! Merry Chrsitmas!!!
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Time: 19th December 2008 9:39pm

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Anonymous says...
To Helen : Duh.Pick when fully coloured,before falling and before bats.

Time: 20th December 2008 8:55pm

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Anonymous says...
To Bett Taylor : Has the Papaya survived? It looks like you cut it in about June,when it is too damp, cold and dark.
Next time cut it in the warmer months i.e. from maybe October to March. And probably the best time to cut is in October or November when it is growing strongly and temperatures will be increasing so as to dry the cut stem.

Time: 21st December 2008 6:03pm

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Wayne says...
Kerrie says..."Locals reckon a long stick but I think I'd have problems finding a 15m stick..."

That sure is one high tree Kerrie, but you live in the land of the Papaya so we can remain jealous

Time: 21st December 2008 6:35pm

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Kerrie says...
Thanks Lyn and Wayne. Local guy offered to climb the tree and gather some fruit for us. After an interesting moment when a side branch broke off while he was on it, we ended up with 20 medium sized green ones.

I've reassessed the height of the tree and we're probably talking 10m height LOL - it helped to see someone halfway up to get a better idea! I will be doing the cut halfway thing next week.

And yes, the land of the papayas, definitely! No shortage here. The variety seems to be smaller than the ones you've got photos of on this forum though.

Thanks again,

Kerrie.

Time: 25th December 2008 4:12pm

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Mark says...
To Helen: We pick our paw paws when they just start to go yellow. Even just a hint can be enough. Whatever you do don't wait until they are fully coloured unless you're into feeding the local wildlife. We bring ours inside and let it ripen in a cupboard wrapped in newspaper. They ripen beautifully and seem none the worse for being picked before fully ripe. Experiment a little and you'll find your rarely lose any fruit.


Time: 11th January 2009 10:13pm

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sarah says...
WHAT are Bonsai Bags???

I have 3 tops of paw paws ready to be planted. I have phoned 3 Nursery's and they have never heard of Bonsai Bags.
Urgent help as feel the paw paws are needing to be planted.
Sarah

Time: 16th March 2009 3:48pm

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Wayne says...
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bonsai+Bags&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enAU224AU224
start here Sarah

Time: 16th March 2009 6:31pm

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Ellen says...
Sarah

why don't you just get those bonsai bag right here in Daleys, they're cheaper,

Time: 17th March 2009 11:04am

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Jimmy says...
And Daleys are nicer.

Time: 17th March 2009 1:34pm

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Paula says...
Would anybody have any ideas of how to keep bats away from the fruit on the pawpaw tree. The bats are now even eating the green fruit, must be short of food or something. I covered the bunches of fruit with old fly wire but last night a bat ate through the wire! Any other ideas? Thanks

Time: 17th March 2009 9:37pm

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Wayne says...
Hi Paula
I have been told that a kerosene wick will keep them away but I haven't had the need to try it yet. Hang a bottle with kerosene in it and a cloth wick sticking out in the tree, apparently the smell overpowers the fruit smell. Please let us know if it works

Time: 18th March 2009 7:08am

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toolman says...
moth balls work a treat to keep bats from getting into my fathers fig tree. same priniple as the kero wick i guess.

Time: 19th March 2009 8:14pm

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Wayne says...
Moth balls sound a lot easier to me toolman, thanks for that

Time: 20th March 2009 8:03am

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Paula says...
Thanks Wayne and Toolman for your suggestions. I will give the mothball idea I try. I have been picking the pawpaws just when they get a speck of yellow on them, trying to beat the bats to them. Thanks again.

Time: 20th March 2009 1:58pm

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sarah says...

Great ..... Will get the map out and the Sat Nav charged up.

Sarah



Time: 21st March 2009 6:14pm

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zain says...
hi iv got a coconut plant and a shockishocki plant and they havnt grown for over 2 years(yummy shockishocki)
can someone reply please

Time: 24th May 2009 5:42pm

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zain says...
thats what we call it too (papaya)

Time: 24th May 2009 5:50pm

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Julie says...
Hi
I am growing red paw paw, the plants are about two meters now and they are both producing fruit but the fruit seems to be very slow growing. Is this typical or should I be giving it a nutritional boost of something? I live in Brisbane and it is very warm at the moment. Can you give me some advice about watering and general care too please??
Thanks

Time: 24th October 2009 9:52pm

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Wayne says...
If the trees look healthy Julie, they should be fine, they are slow growing though. Just a good general fertiliser I think and a good water once a week should be OK

Time: 26th October 2009 6:40pm

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Julie says...
Thanks Wayne
One of the trees looks healthier that the other. The healthy one in partial shade, the other one is in full sun. It has quite a bit of yellowing of the leaves and the branches are dropping off but it is still producing fruit. We just had a lot of rain in Brisbane and the fruit looks bigger already. I haven't really been watering them much either so are you suggesting a good soak once a week?

Time: 28th October 2009 6:39pm

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Wayne says...
I think they needed fertilising if the rain has made the fruit kick and I think a watering once a week should be enough Julie, I rarely water mine , they just get some whenever I water the grass.
For the yellowing try a good spread of dolomite under the tree as well as some epsom salts, but not to much of that.

Time: 28th October 2009 8:23pm

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Chris says...
We have 3 Paw Paw trees all are over head height. They fruited about a month ago. The Trees are too tall and by the time I got a ladder we missed it. Now all the leaves have fallen off and there is no fruit on the trees and they look like big white toothpicks sticing out of the garden. Are they dead? Can we save them?

Time: 23rd November 2009 11:18am

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Noel says...
true you can lop the top off but its best if you have a small shoot emerging from the trunk first this gives the tree a head start when you give it the chop

Time: 13th December 2009 7:15pm

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khadelia says...
Several people have asked about where to cut off a pawpaw when necessary.We live in an area that is normally frost free but last year we had a severe frost when we were away, so could not water the trees before daylight to save them. They were really scorched and looked as if they might not make it. An old friend who used to grow pawpaws commercially told us to leave them right alone till spring, then cut them off. He explained that if you look closely you will see lines going around the trunk that sort of make circles. In one place the circles will be much closer together. (It's usually about a metre or so from the ground and the tree will shoot again below this.)The best place to cut through the trunk (on a bit of an angle )is in the middle of where the circles are closest together. Then put a tin or bucket over the exposed trunk.- it's best to leave room for a bit of air to circulate. Don't seal the wound or it will rot. I used some 5 litre buckets that had lost their handles.Then give it a couple of handfuls of Dynamic Lifter or old chook manure. All of our trees survived and have produced a good flush of fruit since.
You might have to sacrifice some fruit if you choose to reduce the height of the tree. But pick a time when there is least fruit - you will be repaid many times over when it shoots again.
We had some problems with the black spotty fungus under the leaves, it also disfigures the fruit. I usually use seaweed spray every couple of weeks but this year we were away a lot and it didn't get done so the fungus got really bad. However it seems to only be a problem late winter, early spring and all the trees have now outgrown it. I gave them a couple of sprays of seaweed and they look lush and healthy now. Happy pawpaw growing !

Time: 12th January 2010 4:23pm

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adrienne says...
i have 3metre red paw paw with good fruit production. why are they turning yellow when they reach egg size. i have tried trace elements epsom salts ample water.plenty of fruit and flowers but no advance on egg size

Time: 5th February 2010 10:33am

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Wayne says...
Sounds very much like a Calcium deficiency adrienne, spread Dolomite around under the tree at 1 handful per square metre

Time: 5th February 2010 12:05pm

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adrienne says...
thankyou wayne foR prompt reply iwill try dolimite adrienne

Time: 18th February 2010 10:56am

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khadelia says...
I noted the query re small pawpaws. I'm no expert but for what it's worth here are a couple of hints I've collected over the years. Pawpaws like and need extra calcium as Wayne says. Crushed egg shells are a good thing to use under pawpaw trees. Don't just use the broken shells, they take too long to break down, even with lots of mulch. I put egg shells through the food processor to smash them up fairly small. I collect about an ice-cream dish full then process them in one session. Saves a big clean up too often. Save the shells in an open dish and put it in the sun or in the oven on low every few days to dry out. Otherwise they stink after a day or two and it would not be too good to put them in the food processor. Alternatively, grind them up some other way, the aim is to get them fairly small somehow. Also, if chooks run under the trees, you don't want them eating recognisable egg shells, it encourages them to eat eggs.
An old friend of ours who grew pawpaws for a living, said to use Dynamic Lifter or fairly well composted chook manure every spring and use plenty of mulch. Pawpaws are not "greedy feeders" like some trees but they do appreciate being fed now and then.
Our old friend also said the best thing for pawpaws is some urine now and then. While not for the faint hearted, collect urine in a bucket, dilute at least 50:50 and give them a "dose" every couple of weeks. Mine get their turn about every 3 or 4 weeks because we have quite a number of trees.
I put some lime and rock dust around when I think of it and also give them a liquid sea-weed spray every 6-8 weeks. They are lush and flourishing, especially now after all the beautiful rain. They have fruit and lots of flowers. Can Paradise get much better than your own back-yard full of fruit trees ? Khadelia

Time: 3rd March 2010 3:57pm

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Wayne says...
What a great story with lots of good advice, thank you very much for that Khadelia

Time: 3rd March 2010 5:09pm

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John says...
Hi Correy - thanks for your great video - I have a great red pawpaw that just grew on its own from seed - it's really three trees in one - and it seems to like the potato plant the always comes up around its roots - my question is: how did you go about planting the trunk cutting because I would like to have a go. Did you wrap it in peat moss in a plastic bag to make the roots grow on the severed end of the trunk and then plant it or did you just stick the trunk in the ground?

Thanks heaps - John Trigger

Time: 23rd March 2010 9:59am

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Lyn says...
I have a number of paw paw trees loaded with fruit, some have turned yellow but are very very hard. The fruit is emormous in size, some of the smaller fruit has fallen when green...please help, the trees themselves are healthy.

Time: 22nd April 2010 2:58pm

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Wayne says...
Hi Lyn
To soften the fruit sprinkle borax around under the tree, about a tablespoon per square metre. To soften the fruit on the tree spray with borax, about 1 tablespoon per 9L of water. I have not long done my trees and it works a treat. You will notice a difference within a week.

I also spread some epsom salts, 1/2 handfull per square metre, and the flavour improved immensely.

For the fruit drop, it could be several things, I'm loosing a few due to the excessive wet, but you could try some dolomite, a handfull per square metre


Time: 23rd April 2010 7:38am

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Tony says...
Hi
I have grown 2 paw paw tree in my my backyard in Jan this year and they are growing very well. In fact, one of them has started to fruit with almost 8 to 10 frowers on it (its barely a metre high ). I live in Sydney and am not sure how to protect the trees during winter (from the frost). Any advice in this respect will be greatly appreciated.

Time: 27th April 2010 3:56pm

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John says...
Hi,
I have a very peculiar problem with our previously healthy young tree which was setting fruit easily & then just in the last few days the new growth had started to yellow & around both the young fruit & the trunk there is a waxy substance.
Would anyone know if this is a disease or a fungal infection.

Time: 20th September 2010 4:03pm

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Wayne says...
Hey John
Hopefully it's just a calcium/magnesium deficiency, dolomite and magnesium sulphate could cure your problem. You might also like to give it a spray with mancozeb just incase - and don't forget the wetting agent.

The problem we have with Pawpaws here [in our area] is that when they get sick they go down very quickly.

I come from Bowen and spent a lot of time around Ayr in my hey-day, great place


Time: 20th September 2010 5:51pm

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Johno says...
I found picking my Paw Paws before they turned yellow and very ripe helped to reduce bat attacks.

Time: 8th November 2010 3:33pm

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Wayne says...
That's true Johno, tricks the possums to, we shouldn't have to share with these critters I reckon.

A diesel wick can fool the bats but I find I have to cover the fruit to fool the possum

Time: 8th November 2010 7:09pm

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Steven says...
Hey everyone.

I wanted to ask what people think of the Pawpaw - Southern Red here at daleys. i want to plant two in a greenhouse so preferably i think a dwarf variety that grows about 3m would be ideal and i want to know what the fruit is like and how long they take to fruit.

I was going to buy the cutting variety they sell as they seem to fruit almost straight away and are a dwarf variety but they are never in stock.


Thanks alot

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Time: 28th November 2010 11:17am

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snottiegobble says...
I have had a young papaya in the greenhouse all winter where it lost most of its leaves except those at the top. It has been outside, repotted for about 6 weeks & it suddenly put on a spurt of new leaf growth from the top. Trouble is all those new leaves are yellow with greenish mottling between the veins. Could it be iron deficiency?
Maybe I should pee on it after taking iron tablets,ha ha!
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Time: 14th December 2010 4:54pm

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Danny says...
It Looks like PawPaw Mosaic virus. It is spread by sap sucking insects and unfortunately it cant be cured. My PawPaws were infected recently with this so I have removed them and planted fresh seedlings.

Time: 15th December 2010 9:47pm

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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Danny, but now I am worried for my babaco & hope its not as susceptable.
Re.the virus I doubt if there is another pawpaw within 30ks so it would be unlikely wouldnt it? How many do you have?

Time: 16th December 2010 1:55pm

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Danny says...
Hi Snottie, I've heard of mosaic virus infecting some melons, pumpkins and cucumbers but i'm unsure if it is all the same virus. I'm not sure if babaco can be infected with it.

Time: 16th December 2010 11:15pm

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snottiegobble says...
Strange but i am also trying snakebeans this season & their first leaves were very similar in colour, but they seem to be growing out of it now & the plants are now spiralling upwards so I am just wondering if cool weather had anything to do with it? My melons, & cucs & zucs are fine. Pumpkins, well that is another story. See "heat stress"

Time: 17th December 2010 1:23am

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grub says...
gidday snottie i think danny is right it is pawpaw mosaic virus, also known as Curly Top. The virus is specific to pawpaw. i had it last year heres a link i used hope it helps... it will make you cry.........
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3043838.htm

Time: 19th December 2010 4:58pm

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Brendan says...
Hi SG, try chopping your pawpaw tree off about 600mm above the ground, jam a tin on the top, and allow about 2 or 3 shoots to grow.
Give it some dolomite & sulphate of potash, plenty of mulch and you should be right.
Should have no more virus :-)

Time: 22nd December 2010 8:20am

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snottiegobble says...
Thanks grub,yes Im in tears, but wait, brendan has come up with an alternative solution,Yippee!

Time: 22nd December 2010 4:42pm

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BJ says...
Cut down 8 Papaya trees today in mine and my neighbor's yards. Oh well, less bats outside my windows. I just hope the virus didn't spread to my babaco.

Time: 22nd December 2010 8:55pm

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snottiegobble says...
hell BJ so do I or we will be in the same boat!

Time: 23rd December 2010 12:58am

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micarle says...
Just removed two Babaco and one Paw paw!! Mosaic Virus sux...

Time: 29th January 2011 11:35am

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Brendan says...
Hi Micarle, should've just cut them off and put tin on top, see my post above.
The trees should become immune to the virus.

Time: 29th January 2011 3:33pm

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micarle says...
Lucky for me they were only small!! I have some large Paw paw's i didn't want to get the virus! So they got pulled out!!! If it re appears on any others i will try your Trick Brendon..

Time: 29th January 2011 4:08pm

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snottiegobble says...
With your advice maybe Ive beaten it!
This is the cauli head after giving it dolomite, & sulphate of potash, but instead of cutting the head completely off & putting a can on it I left the strongest growth & carefully cut all the others off! Now there are even baby flower buds on it!
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Time: 30th January 2011 2:02am

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jean says...
Can somebody please tell me what to do with my paw paw tree . It had heaps of fruit and they are all dropping off before growing. The tree looks healthy.

Time: 14th February 2011 2:04pm

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Alex says...
I have a paw paw tree in the corner of my garden against the wall of the house. It grew out of compost that I put on my vegie garden and is over 5m tall and fruing really well. I used to live in Fiji so am familiar with the tree but it is growing really close to the house. Will the root system damage the house foundations? It is growing about 60cm away from each wall in a corner. Can someone please give me some advice

Time: 14th February 2011 8:01pm

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snottiegobble says...
Yes Alex, You will just have to move the house! :) BTW Im not jealous or anything, much!

Time: 14th February 2011 8:17pm

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BJ says...
Put some seeds in a pot. When they shoot, cut the big one down and plant the little ones in a more sensible place. At 5m tall, its best days are probably behind it anyways...

Time: 14th February 2011 8:39pm

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eyeballnose says...
why are my eyeballs up my nose

Time: 1st May 2011 7:18pm

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goldylocks says...
winnie the pooh was looking for his cat down the toilet

Time: 1st May 2011 7:21pm

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snottiegobble says...
Comeon kert you know how to delete so please get rid of this crap!

Time: 2nd May 2011 1:00am

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Mike says...
I see there have been discussions about dwarfing.There are a few common practices people use to keep paw paws short.Planting them in full sun and chopping off or bending the taproot before planting out.I have seen some done this way and they seem shorter and heavier.Like many people I chop the tall plants off low when I can't reach the fruit on the ladder and them them multiple branch.They can get very tall.Cutting grown plants seem weaker,less productive,fall over easily and never become whoppers.There are a few genuine dwarf varieties or lines.


Time: 30th June 2011 9:47pm

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jason says...
i'm not sure what you're saying Mike. Are you saying that you can lop off all the leaves and part of the trunk and the papaya will regrow as a two trunk specimen?

Time: 1st July 2011 10:05am

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Mike says...
Jason I mean chop the tall pole-like paw paw down with a clean cut at 1-2m high and put a pot or container over the stump.If there are not yet side shoots they will quickly form and keep 3 to 5 balkanced around the original trunk to be the new trunks.If the top is diseased or unproductive it also should be cut off.The plant will get extra years and be more productive than before.It is standard practice with paw paws.

Time: 1st July 2011 4:16pm

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Jason says...
Thanks. Will do.

Time: 2nd July 2011 9:21am

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denise says...
If you want a short pawpaw then start out with a superdwarf variety. I imported seeds from Aloha seed in Hawaii and the Certified Red Maradol pawpaw starts flowering at 35cms. The fruits being quite big means the first fruit almost touch the ground.There are no barren male trees and the tree last longer before getting too big.

Time: 6th July 2011 6:42pm

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Mike says...
Now that is the best idea for a dwarf yet.There are several asian dwarfs as well.Hawaii and SE Asia have GM paw paws that are much more disease resistant but not allowed into Australia.

Time: 6th July 2011 7:19pm

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Nick says...
Does anyone know whats wrong with my 2 pawpaws, theyve been in the greenhouse for a few months now and theyve been havent been growing much at all despite warmth and plenty of water.

Time: 6th July 2011 7:25pm

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snottiegobble says...
If they are losing their older leaves its still not warm enough. Try feeding them with chook pellets & powerfeed. If they are in pots they may need potting on.

Time: 7th July 2011 4:52pm

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Nick says...
Thanks again SG :)

Time: 7th July 2011 7:22pm

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graeme says...
i have the trunk and very high branches how do cut back,they also have black spot,thanks

Time: 23rd July 2011 8:28pm

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graeme says...
i have rapped my fruit with a fine nylon mesh that came from an old tent,and it works

Time: 23rd July 2011 8:45pm

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Toni says...
Need help... We had 4 metres of water through our yard January 2011... As part of the rebuild, I have planted fruit trees down the side of the drive way. Our bi-sexual pawpaw has rocket, planted in September with a stem 15mm across and standing about 35cm high, it is now over 2m and the trunk is about 120mm.. and laden with fruit.... (enter forboding music interlude) Two days ago we noticed yellowing leaves, followed by some green fruit falling. The yellow has now taken over the whole plant.... I know the soil is a bit on the grey clay side, although the planting was well treated with potting mix and friable materials.... This little vixen has been our beacon of light, but now seems to be on its way out. Would be very appreciative of any assistance....

Time: 13th March 2012 11:33pm

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Libby says...
We do not have a suitable garden area to grow pawpaws but I would very much like to grow one. Can I grown one in a container of sorts.
Thank you
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Time: 14th December 2013 8:24am

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sternus1 says...
Yes Elizabeth, absolutely you can. Pawpaws and papaya rank among the best things to grow in pots. I think Corey (regular forum contributor) does this, he'd be the one to ask when he comes on.

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Time: 14th December 2013 3:51pm

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Peter1 says...
Hi,

I was wondering if someone can provide some advice as to what might be happening with my Red Pawpaw tree. It's a bisexual , purchased in a pot about a year ago, I dug a hole and prepared the soil with recommended fertiliser including dolomite and lime.

The plant established and grew, plenty of flowers in first year and dropped, some of the early leaves changed to brown, dried and eventually drop off.

The tree seems to have stopped growing in height.

Large trunk at the base and skinny at the top. ground underneath the plant is unfortunately hard ground and possibly clayish. I only water it as recommended by the instructions that came with the plant.

Any advice will be welcome.
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Al says...
Doesn't look too bad Peter.
The new growth shows that the warm weather has got it going but it could be a bit hungry.
I would put some mulch - 15-20cms deep -around the base of the tree, maybe with some dynamic lifter or compost underneath, and keep it from touching up against the trunk.
This mulch will keep the moisture more even and encourage worms/microbes in the soil. You can pull the mulch back every now and then and check the need for watering that way (to see if it's too dry or too wet with what you are giving it).
Will need another feed and mulch in early autumn and again in spring. They are hungry, fast growers with a short life but yours looks OK. The old, last season leaves fall off after winter and look like yours does.


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Linton says...
Paw Paw trees pictured growing typically in a backyard in rural Vietnam. Very common there but I only saw tall ones, no dwarf varieties. Cheers!
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Waterfall says...
Is anyone successfully growing paw paw in a pot and getting fruit? I was given a cluster of seedlings, after separation it looks like about 8 of them are going to survive. I do not have space in the ground for them so I am looking at growing them in pots.

Time: 12th December 2014 10:22pm

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MaryT1 says...
yes, I have grown pawpaw in a pot and the tree fruited well.

Time: 13th December 2014 5:42am

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Waterfall says...
Thanks Mary, how large does the pot need to be?

Time: 13th December 2014 9:13am

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MaryT1 says...
Correy posted a picture on this thread (15th January 2008) of a tree fruiting in a small pot. Scroll up the page to see it.

Time: 13th December 2014 10:37am

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Also there are super dwarf types
ie Taiwan hybrid red lady, plant height 1m

Time: 13th December 2014 5:16pm

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Peter1 says...
Hi Al,

Thanks for the advice. I have taken new photos and will upload by Friday this week.

Unfortunately I have not got around to providing it with the required fertiliser, it mentions Nitrophoska...I went to a few nurseries around where I reside, near Beenleigh and none seem to have it or know what it Nitrophoska is.

It has a few flowers, once again it has lost quite a few flowers. Still a few more flowers on it but main trunk seems not to grow taller, its' like it has stopped growing tall and only branches are projecting up and out.

Cheers

Time: 14th January 2015 12:49am

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Andypandy says...
We have moved to a new house and have 7 Pawpaw trees about 3m plus tall. Some have had the tops taken off and have put side branches out. All are fruiting and or flowering. The one with the ripest fruit is dropping them whilst they are green. What could be the problem and what should we do to fix? I am getting sick of green papaya salad and yearn for a ripe one!

Time: 31st January 2015 6:13pm

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Al says...
Anyone have any dwarf pawpaw seeds they'd be willing to share/trade/sell?Have had a look for the Taiwan Red Lady but doesn't seem much around besides in India and don't like my chances there.

I have some good reds - from FF seed - but not sure yet if they are dwarfing.




Time: 31st January 2015 7:40pm

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JohnMc1 says...
Al, I ended up with one single solitary dwarf seedling out of a packet full of seeds. I'll take some cuttings from it at the earliest opportunity. Could take a coupe of years to be mature enough to take cutting material.
You could strike some cuttings from any PawPaw, they fruit very low to the ground like this red RB6 I struck last year, and RB6 don't like this climate.
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Time: 31st January 2015 9:47pm

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sternus1 says...
Papaya are like that for me too. I'll sew 50000 seeds and 6 will germinate. Then I'll buy a fruit, scoop out the seeds and throw them on the compost heap and 75% will germinate.

My dwarf red royals have just come in to flower, they are about 1 metre high.

Time: 1st February 2015 9:17am

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journey149 says...
Hi everyone

i had to pull two Paw paw trees up which was setting mostly on top of ground. The leave have started to die off, turning brown, i put them in separate pots with fertilize and new soil. What do you think the chances are of them surviving?

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kumia1 says...
Hello all,
We bought two carica papaya seedlings from Daleys probably 18 months ago, and had the most amazing crop of fruit. As the weather cooled this year, the larger tree appears to have become sick - dropped most of the leaves, trunk became thin, fruit skin becoming brown and now falling off.
It's smaller 'sister' tree looks fine so far.
I'm not sure if it's a sickness (infection that can spread to the other tree?) or a lack of some nutrient. Has anyone had experience with this condition and have advice?
Many thanks
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David01 says...
Hi kumia1,

Where do you live? what is the min temperature this winter and today? As I understand Papaya does not like the cold temp. In Melbourne it stops growing when the temperature drops to 15C and suffers a lot when the temp goes under 10C. If your weather cooler this year, then I guess the plant struggled to supply nutrient for the top leaves and feed many fruits as seen in the photo. As a result, trunk became thinner and fruits dropped to protect its self by nature. The smaller sister looks ok as it does not share its nutrient to many fruits and tree at the same time as its bigger sister. However, if you have more photos and details may help/confirm the outcome. Cheers

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kumia1 says...
Hi David01
Thanks for the reply. We live in Brisbane, we have had a few cool nights but I think it started to struggle before the cold. Perhaps as you say it may have been exhausted by producing a bumper crop. The smaller sister did not produce nearly as many. I have attached a photo of the two trees side by side today, and one of the big sister in fruit. I'm wondering whether we should top the big sister (she's getting rather tall anyway) or whether that would set her back further. Thanks for any advice.
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David01 says...
Hi kumia1,

I suggest to apply a few kg of Dynamic lifter and a hand full potassium (K) to the big sister to support the bumper crop. As she needs fertilizer to survive. You can cut the main trunk (1/3) when fruit season finished. The side shoot will emerge as a new tree. Cheers

Time: 13th August 2018 9:59am

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