Phoenix mandarin? (forum)

Olga starts with ...
Hello.
Could somebody please tell me what is Phoenix mandarin? I'd bought some fruits at Woolworth a month ago, fruits are medium with thick glossy peel, seedless, flesh has an orange-like consistency but tastes as real mandarins.
I didn't find any descriptions of Phoenix variety in the internet yet.


Time: 28th July 2011 1:42pm

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Jimy says...
Woolies and coles make up mnay names as marketing gimmicks, try to have a look at the actual carton fro the real name or the name of the grwoer.

Time: 31st July 2011 12:38pm

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Olga says...
I had been told that Phoenix is a new variety from 2PH Farms.

Time: 8th August 2011 6:49pm

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Chris says...
Taste and segments reminds me very much like a Taylor Lee, except they are half the size or more.
Nothing that special to them personally except a catchy name.

Time: 21st June 2012 2:42pm

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Scott says...
yes the worst batch of fruit i have ever tried

Time: 27th July 2012 12:53am

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amanda says...
We had some the other day and they were lovely - and I am fussy about mandarins...sometimes it's the growing conditions that affect the flavour - so it's worth trying a type more than once... ;-)

The new varieties may not be available to home growers for a while..?

Time: 28th July 2012 11:04am

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Julie says...
I agree amanda re the growing conditions. My own mandarins have fantastic flavour compared to shop bought ones (same variety).

Not sure if I said this elsewhere, but the Imperial in the ground is far superior in flavour to the one grown in a bag - even though I feed the bag more often.

Time: 28th July 2012 9:03pm

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amanda says...
I have had two different lots of D'Anjou pears from the shops and the difference between them was quite a lot...
The first lot were small and stunning - the second lot large, harder and half as sweet...
If I had got the second lot first - I may have thought that is was a good pear rather than a stunning pear - as the small, sweet and melthingly juicy first lot were..

Different growers, areas etc obviously play a part here...

Time: 30th July 2012 11:14am

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lilly14 says...
Pheonix is the name 2PH called the variety, not woolworths.

Size is smaller than a Taylor-Lee and they should be low seeded (less than 3 seeds per fruit)

They made this variety after citrus canker.

Time: 18th September 2012 4:34pm

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Ngaire says...
I just ate my last Phoenix Seedless Mandarin and thought I would like to give them a . I also bought mine at Woolworths Lake Cathie, no seeds and tasted terrific.

Time: 3rd July 2014 10:30am

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sternus1 says...
Ate one last night, it might have had the best flavor of any mandarin I've ever tasted. Only downside is the hard skin, otherwise it's a perfect 10 fruit.

Time: 3rd July 2014 10:34am

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Pangden says...
Seedless Phoenix Mandarin???
Purchased at Woolies Darwin.
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Time: 3rd July 2014 3:18pm

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Pangden says...
Seedless Phoenix Mandarin???
Purchased at Woolies Darwin.
Pictures - Click to enlarge

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Time: 3rd July 2014 3:19pm

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symiot says...
If it's not a hybrid, maybe you should plant those seeds? But that's so very interesting...

Time: 3rd July 2014 7:16pm

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BenW says...
Many Citrus are polyembrionic, that is there are 7 or 8 embryos in each seed. One will be produced by sexual reproduction and will be different to the parent, while the others are all clones and will be identical to the parent, exactly the same as if you had taken a cutting (though it will take a year or two extra to fruit).

If you have a few seeds, dissect one carefully and you will be able to tell for sure. A polyembryionic seed is kind of wrinkly, rather than smooth, and the embryos pull apart (although you will probably damage them. There are photos on the net if that wasn't clear.

Good luck :)

Time: 3rd July 2014 7:38pm

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Gallmoe says...
I had tasted many Manderines over my life time and this one Phoenix would have to be one of the best tasting one I have ever had the joy to eat.

Gallmoe.

Time: 3rd August 2015 9:58am

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sternus1 says...
Aye--in fact I'll go on record and say that I had one phoenix that was the best mandarine I've ever had. Incredibly strong flavour, perfect acidity...incredible.

Time: 3rd August 2015 7:33pm

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Glenstorm says...
I am eating a Phoenix Mandarin right now. It is very pleasant, but I differ in my response. I think it is less tasting of Mandarin than I would prefer, but it's a pretty good balance. Most of the new mandarin varieties these days are derived from breeding with oranges I understand. Pretty much any citrus can be crossed with another it seems, they have been hybridised with each other for centuries. I love the old almost red skinned very intense mandarins that nearly everyone had in their backyard 50 years ago. Noone grows them commercially anymore. Sniff.

Time: 18th June 2016 1:48pm

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Slicko says...
Hey Glenstorm,do you remember what variety those red skinned ones were?

I have just tried the Pheonix for the first time the other day... yum! I wonder if they will strike true to parent from seed

Mick

Time: 21st June 2016 12:17pm

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425 says...
I found that this mandarin has a good texture, looks and feel more like a small orange... with a little grapefruit
flavor in the background... for me the flavor of a real mandarine will stay the same as the french fruit actually named clementine,a thin skin fruit seedless, little segment with a strong flavor unique to this family. The mandarines were more looking and tasting like the Imperial kind: seeds, thicker peel, small segments ....
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Time: 9th July 2016 4:40pm

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Barry west says...
I bought a pixie Mandarin from dales several years ago first it grew large thorns witch they said it could be water shoots now after another two years and no sign of any flowers or fruit I am digging pixie out having wasted time and effort for no results
Barry west .

Time: 19th August 2017 9:45pm

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