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I wonder if/when this tree going to be sold in nurseries.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-14/antioxidant-rich-plum-to-fight-obesity/6094914

Time: 15th February 2015 10:40am

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Brain says...
It might be a few years before home growers get a bud wood, as is usually the case. Surely can grow from seeds, david and others, your mission is to report back as soon as you see them on sale!



Time: 15th February 2015 11:45am

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Carl76 says...
Should be around now.
The following is an excerpt of an article I came across.
Grown on farm in the Traprock area west of Stanthorpe.

Time: 15th February 2015 12:10pm

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Wendy says...
I would like to be kept up to date on when the tree will be available to buy. Thank you Wendy Purdie

Time: 15th February 2015 1:12pm

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David says...
I also would like up dates as to when this tree will be available for purchase

Time: 15th February 2015 3:45pm

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David says...
Picked up some fruit for sale James St markets today $8.99 per kilo.Just ate one, rich plum flavour ,firm ,juicy,and very dark red.Yum

Time: 15th February 2015 5:37pm

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Karen54 says...
I am also very keen to be kept up to date as to when these trees will be available for the home gardener. Thanks Karen

Time: 15th February 2015 6:56pm

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Brain says...
Good work david. I am not as well travelled and anyone seen any in coles, woolies?

Time: 15th February 2015 6:58pm

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Sandra3mac says...
My husband was able to buy the fruit from Woolworths today. No fruit juice available as yet.
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Time: 15th February 2015 8:32pm

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Barry says...
They are available at Top Spot Fruit Mart Aspley( Northern suburbs of Brisbane). Sold out this afternoon, but fresh stock arriving at 10 am Monday.

Time: 15th February 2015 8:44pm

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RobynS says...
I would like to purchase queen Garnet Plum when available If we grow it by seed do we need another plum and which one to cross pollinate

Time: 15th February 2015 9:33pm

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Sindelle says...
APAL.org.au says anyone interested in growing should talk to nutrafruit.

Time: 16th February 2015 1:35am

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srt says...
The plum may taste good ;no argument . But the health claims are pure promotion B.S. The advertising agencies fingerprints are all over them.
"Reversing the effects of obesity" ,come on ,really! Bought to you by the same profession as "Palmolive will make your skin younger looking in 14 days or your money back"

Time: 16th February 2015 10:21am

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Markmelb says...
Your correct - only Rat studies as yet and none on obese humans - I would grow one as they are an ideal home garden size.
Similar to a ballerina apple style -

Im going to grow a seedling from one and graft onto a plantnet dwarf satsuma or similar rootstock plant as well as to my 8 graft pluot that ive been eating different plums for 2 months already - mariposa finishing as santa rosa almost ready and purple gage still green as starting to show a purple bloom.

Time: 16th February 2015 10:32am

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Diego says...

The nitty gritty.....

http://www.nutrafruit.com.au/assets/Publications/2014-08-13%20IHS%202014%20R%20Berecry%20Queen%20Garnet%20Paper.pdf

Time: 16th February 2015 10:33am

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Edward says...
Just watched a report on this plum today on ABC's Landline, and apparently the health claims come from research at Uni of Southern Queensland, so sounds genuine enough.

Time: 16th February 2015 10:35am

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Jeanette says...
I also saw the Landline program today. Only time will tell if the anti-obesity results on humans work well. It certainly looked very promising.

I would love to grow a tree in my garden as soon as they become available for the home garden.

The Queen Garnet plum looks very similar to the Blood Plum which also had purple/dark red skin and dark red flesh. I haven't seen it for sale for a few years. I wonder if indeed it was one of the species used in the creation of the Queen Garnet??

Please keep me updated with any new information and particularly where I can buy a tree for planting in my garden.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if all they are saying a out it is true!

Jenni

Time: 16th February 2015 12:08pm

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Diego says...

The LandLine program (iView):

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/landline/NC1532Q003S00



Time: 16th February 2015 12:58pm

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Chris says...
It's not the only fruit containing anthocyanins.
Sure it may be higher than others, but there is plenty in other fruits to obtain similar health benefits.

Anthocyanin-rich foods
(mg/100g or 100 ml*)
Anthocyanins Flavanols Proanthocyanidins
Blackberry 89-211 13-19 6-47
Blueberry 67-183 1 88-261
Grapes, red 25-92 2 44-76
Raspberries (red) 10-84 9 5-59
Strawberry 15-75 - 97-183
Red wine 1-35 1-55 24-70
Plum 2-25 1-6 106-334
Red cabbage 25 0 -
Red onion 13- 25 - -
Blood orange juice 3-10 - -

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/flavonoids/flavtab2.html


Time: 16th February 2015 1:02pm

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Brain says...
According to the article, the orchard has polliniser plum trees, so depending on whether the qgp is self pollinating, there is a chance it might not be true to type.

But still worth a go imho.

Time: 16th February 2015 1:38pm

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Elusiverick1 says...
Please keep me informed on the availability of QG plums for the home grower.

Also, how well suited to Tasmanian climate are QG plums & plums in general ?

Sincerely,
Rick,

Time: 16th February 2015 3:22pm

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Markmelb says...
Hey - got some at Woolies loose mixed with Pluot but had their stickers on - paid $4.98kg - they were quite nice to eat - let see if i lose a kg overnight??

Will plant the seeds and graft as i described above - looks like a nice tree.

Time: 16th February 2015 6:25pm

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Carl76 says...
The most important thing still remains, is it worth growing ? Is it better than other plum varieties ?
Disregarding any actual or imagined super health outcomes.

Time: 16th February 2015 6:30pm

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Markmelb says...
Lets see in a couple years? They are firm but eat well - keeping a couple to see if they sweeten with ripening with my Santa Rosas im picking now and a couple late mariposas grown on a plumcot.
Now thats a mouthfull :)

The Santa Rosas are the size of Tennis Balls

Time: 16th February 2015 6:49pm

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glen2581 says...
i would like to know when we will be able to get trees..this for the home gardner

Time: 17th February 2015 12:16am

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Juneli says...
It says on one website that the chill requirement for these plums is around 600 hrs. I find it hard to believe that a Japanese Plum would be that high?Maybe they are of European origin. Does anybody know any facts about their parentage? I can't see trees being available for a few years yet though due to patency rights.

Time: 17th February 2015 1:57pm

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Chris says...

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Time: 17th February 2015 2:12pm

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Markmelb says...
Planted 3 seeds today after eating yesterday - ripening 3 plums a bit longer to see if they sweeten a bit more - will keep you all posted on their growth upon germination :)

Time: 17th February 2015 3:40pm

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ivepeters says...
Mark,
I don't think it's that simple, with stone fruit anyway.
Wouldn't you stick it in the fridge for a few weeks first ?

Time: 17th February 2015 7:23pm

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Markmelb says...
Do you think it needs stratifying? I guess im in too much of a rush - maybe it does?
Pot is outside anyway and dont really expect germination till spring so pot will be stratified by then.
Ive had nectarine seeds come up around tree in past so in this case patience is a virtue ;)


Time: 17th February 2015 7:45pm

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Juneli says...
The seed parent of Queen Garnet is Blackamber and the pollinator was Amber Jewel. Queen Garnet is not self pollinating and is pollinated in the orchard by Blackamber and Santa Rosa.

Time: 18th February 2015 9:33pm

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Jim says...
so the seedlings grown from the fruit wont be true to type then.

Time: 18th February 2015 11:01pm

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Juneli says...
Probably won't come true to type. One article said Queen Garnet is a prolific producer which tells me it might have some self pollinating ability. Anyway I am planting seeds just in case.



Time: 19th February 2015 8:54am

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Peter1 says...
I also watched Landline about this new plum "Queen Garnett", purchased couple of kgs from Woolworths (Logan Hyperdome)at $4.95 kg.

They taste very nice, deep purple colour all way through.

I am thinking about growing this plum tree by seed (Pit).

Does anyone know what would be the best method of growing this tree from seed?

I've done a few google searches but looks a bit ify.

Any advice is welcome.

Cheers, Peter1

Time: 20th February 2015 8:49pm

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ivepeters says...
Got some today, must say best plum this season.

Time: 20th February 2015 8:55pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Peter1 says...
"I've done a few google searches but looks a bit ify."
Hi, What aspect is that ?
Seed should germinate well after correct cold stratification.
You could probably get a seedling to fruit in 5 years.
Not sure if you will get an exact QG type from seed, if its already a hybrid plus fair chance its crossed again via the pollinator. But that can apply to a lot of stonefruit, and their seedlings are often close to the parent.
ps if you grow a batch of seedlings, you may work out what is a likely pollinator hybrid.
Tried some QG fruit today, very impressed, not a blood plum, in its own new category.

Time: 21st February 2015 2:16pm

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Slicko says...
I also got some yesterday at Woollies Carindale. Quite a nice plum amazing colour inside.
I am going to put the stones in the fridge and see if they will strike in spring.

Time: 21st February 2015 4:16pm

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EJB says...
Also found them at Woollies Craigieburn hidden between the lemons nd the limes not where you would normally look for plums. Good one Woollies. Beautiful tasting plums

Time: 22nd February 2015 3:05pm

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Slicko says...
Does anyone have an idea as to their chilling requirements??

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Time: 22nd February 2015 10:23pm

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Juneli says...
I did read it was around 600-700 chill hours but that sounds excessive for a Japanese Plum. Most are around 350-450 hours. Here in Mackay with very little chill hours I am getting bucket loads of plums off Gulf Gold which is 350 hours. Also got some plums off Satsuma which is rated about the same.

Time: 23rd February 2015 10:48am

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Diego says...
Bought some to try today at Woolies (funny how Coles didn't buy them in - caught napping perhaps). Definitely great colour and texture (more fleshy than juicy). Perhaps a bit bland for me, but that could be an effect of supermarket handling/storage i.e. store age.

Time: 23rd February 2015 9:03pm

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Brain says...
Finally i managed to buy some. At calamvale, they sell another blackskinned plum in the same box as qg. It is mainly pink and white fleshed. Believe it or not, it was sweeter than the qg but obviously not the same antioxidant properties.

Time: 24th February 2015 12:53pm

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Slicko says...
I wonder about the antioxidant properties of the qg and how much juice you would have to drink or how many you would have to eat to gain appropriate benefit. I suppose that it's anybody's guess at the moment until someone does of research on people.

Time: 24th February 2015 1:45pm

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Maryanne says...
When will the plums be available on sale at woolworths in Sydney ?

Time: 28th February 2015 5:51pm

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Carl76 says...
Ask woolies

Time: 28th February 2015 6:01pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
"I wonder about the antioxidant properties of the qg and how much juice you would have to drink or how many you would have to eat to gain appropriate benefit. I suppose that it's anybody's guess at the moment until someone does of research on people." ?????
If an apple a day keeps the doctor away, the doc can start planning early retirement !!!

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ivepeters says...
Every little bit helps in the end.

Time: 28th February 2015 6:51pm

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dano says...
they are in woolies,Cannon Hill Brisbane at 3.45 cents per kg! and i must say their Fantastic! Dan.

Time: 2nd March 2015 8:37pm

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Brain says...
If i succeed in growing one and it proves to be a progressive plum, i shall name it republic garnett.


Time: 2nd March 2015 9:15pm

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tim8610 says...
Available at Gabba Fruit Market, $6.99/kg

Time: 5th March 2015 5:16pm

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Juneli says...
My first Queen Garnet Plum seedling.
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Time: 17th April 2015 10:28am

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Brain says...
Nice! I better take my seeds from fridge and get started.

Time: 18th April 2015 10:37pm

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Markmelb says...
Took mine from fridge too and started potting up and found a seed with a cracked kernal and lo and behold has started to germinate already - cool - pic enclosed :)
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Time: 19th April 2015 9:30am

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Ben says...
I would like to plant a queen garnet plum here in Adelaide so any updates of its availability would be gratful. Will the fruit be sold in stores around Adelaide. Im interested

Time: 25th April 2015 11:31pm

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Markmelb says...
You wont get fruit maybe till Feb next year. Not sure why your wooles didnt get them in??

Time: 26th April 2015 8:24am

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Juneli says...
Some good news about the QG Plum. Some products made from the plum will be available in selected outlets (I presume supermarkets) in a few weeks time.

Time: 2nd May 2015 7:50am

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Markmelb says...
Heres a Pic of my Queen Garnett seedlings shot today - they didnt need a full winter to stratify :)
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Time: 4th May 2015 5:41pm

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Juneli says...
Congratulations Markmelb on your seedlings. I had two come up but one was disfigured, it had no leaves and died. The other one is ploughing ahead and has nine leaves now plus the original two. Seems to be a very sturdy plum which is good. Hope everyone else is successful with their seed plantings.

Time: 5th May 2015 1:59pm

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Markmelb says...
Queen Garnett seedling update - grew happily by the window on west facing window sill all through winter.
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Time: 15th September 2015 2:10pm

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Trudy says...
Hi I am interested in buying a queen garnet tree to plant at home ,any update on availablity ?
Thank you Trudy

Time: 14th October 2015 12:48pm

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Juneli says...
Hi Trudy! Sorry to inform you but you can't buy a Queen Garnet Plum Tree as the plant rights are owned by the Queensland Government and they collect the royalties from the sale of the fruit. Licences are granted to fruit growers to grow the fruit trees for the government.
As from late November,Woolworths will be stocking bottles of fruit nectar in their produce department for around $5 per 250 mls. They also said the fruit powder should be available about that time as well.

Time: 17th October 2015 3:38pm

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Ayebaresan says...
Hi folks,

I was wondering if anyone knew when the Queensland Garnett plums might be available in 2016.

I enjoyed them so much the last couple of years and I was interested in how the season has gone for growers.

If somebody knew when they were becoming available to buy at my local greengrocer that would be absolutely fabulous.

Kind regards,

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Peter1 says...
They will be avsilable, probably only through Woolworths as they have a contract. Similar to last year. Only a short window of supply.

As for health properties....not that long ago everyone thought the world was flat and you would fall off....

There will always be skeptics to everything even if its staring them in the face.

I'm neither a promoter, advocate or denialer for Queen Garnett, They taste good, and not cheap. The old saying, you get what you pay for.

At the end of the day, diet (eat in moderation)and exercise is the key to good health, weather your fat, skinny, thin, proportional built or out of proportion.

As one contributor said, science is behind this one. Qld DPI would not be funding it in partnership with one other entity if there was no benefit or reward for them.

That's my view on this


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Juneli says...
Hi Nick! I was informed by email the plums should be available at Woolworths stores next week after Australia Day. Some green grocers may also sell them.

Time: 19th January 2016 11:33am

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HughM says...
Hi Nick
The main harvest started on Friday with the first fruit sold at Rocklea on Monday so your grocer could have them now. Woolworths will have them from mid-late next week.

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Peter1 says...
@ HughM

Thanks for letting us know.

All I know in my neck of the woods, Woollies are the only ones that will have them, no other grocer i.e. fruit and vegetable sellers would have them.

How long is the window?
Window as in harvest.

Thanks

Time: 20th January 2016 8:46am

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HughM says...
Hi Peter - 6-8 weeks. Demand is pretty high & the crop lighter than expected so the fruit might run out more quickly.
The main harvest will finish in about 10-14 days but the fruit will be stored to allow 6-8 weeks supply.

Time: 20th January 2016 3:53pm

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Markmelb says...
Update since everyone is waiting for the QG plums to arrive at woollies - heres a pic of my 2 almost one year old nearly QG seedlings - one on left is powering away and one on right not so great but still ok
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Time: 20th January 2016 8:24pm

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Peter1 says...
Hi HughM,

Thanks for that info. I can imagine demand will be high for that plum. I've had some last year and must admit it was one of the better plums I've tasted in a long time.

Will the juice be available at Woollies about that time?

I am assuming the juice would be from plums that may not be good enough for shelf sale.

I'd be happy to pay the cost of the juice if its the real thing. I'll be waiting for the fruit to hit the shelves. Thanks, Peter

Time: 21st January 2016 12:19am

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HughM says...
Thanks Peter - the juice is made from processing grade Queen Garnet - it is just pressed - pasteurised and put in a bottle. Woolworths will have the nectar from early February.

Time: 21st January 2016 12:35pm

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Peter1 says...
Thanks HughM,

I'll be keeping an eye out for it. Cheers


Time: 22nd January 2016 3:58pm

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johno1936 says...
from the end of January.

Time: 22nd January 2016 8:17pm

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johno says...
from the end of January.

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UgoM says...
Hi Markmelb - where did you buy your QGP trees? Would love to get my hands on one or two. Thanks.

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Jakki says...
I have been searching for this plum tree since reading an article last year. No luck herein tassie. Managed to find a site the sells the juice but the freight cost did not justify a taste test. Perhaps if a group got together a large order could be placed?

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Lana says...
Hi, Please let me know when and where I can buy a couple of these 'Queen Garnet Plum Trees' for my home garden.

Time: 24th January 2016 12:29pm

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Markmelb says...
QGP may not be available to the home gardener for probably a few years or maybe never as is patented and has royalties on crop sales too - just put a few seeds into a few pots and you will end up with what i have produced in a year - its more a fun thing if you end up with the same black plum in a couple years - graft what you grow to a young Mariposa or Plumcot - im sure QGP will flower around same time - have patients and live long :)

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Daleys Fruit Tree Nursery says...
At Daleys we did try really hard to get the go ahead to use their propagation materials for the Queen Garnet plum tree. We do believe that the home backyard is not in competition with the large orchards that grow them. If anything a handful of people growing them in their backyards would mean that we as Australians have a connection both to the fruit and the trees that were developed here. This would work in everyones favour and be a very positive outcome. We did suggest we could limit them to 1 per person or address so that it isn't possible for someone to grow them commercially.

However currently the plum trees are only to be used by registered growers.

You can of course grow them from seed however a seedling selection will have different health properties, Chill requirements, fruit size, cropping habit and much more. To be technical you couldn't call this a Queen Garnet plum as it is totally different variety or it's own genetically unique plum tree.

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ivepeters says...
Kath,
Thanks for the enlightenment.
Pity, would've been nice to have one.

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Linton says...
Jakki, the only way to grow Queen Garnet is from seeds, even though may not be the same as parent. Are the fruit available in the supermarkets there? They are in season now but it's very short and I have been buying the fruit for the past 2 weeks already.

If the stores don't have them there, we could possibly send you a few seeds but please advise if seeds or fruit are allowed to be sent to Tas. Cheers.
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Peter1 says...
Queen Garnet plums now available at Woolworths fruit section at Hyperdome Loganholme.

Brought couple of kilos today. Still waiting to see if the juice arrives at the same location.

Cheers, Peter

Time: 27th January 2016 8:08pm

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Hydro says...
My Uncle is visiting from Australia and told me all about the Queen Garnet! I recently moved to the Big Island of Hawaii and would really like to purchase some seed. If anyone has some fresh stones available, please let me know!
I've imported seed from Australia before!

Time: 31st January 2016 12:28pm

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Peter1 says...
HughM,

I went to Woolworths yesterday evening , purchased 2kg of Queen Garnett, I asked about the juice, they know nothing about it, they checked their inventory for stocks (from the front desk), they still said no nothing about it as in the juice. It might be only a selected few outlets that will be stocking them.

Cheers, Peter

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HughM says...
Thanks Peter - the local managers will not know about the nectar yet. It should be on-shelf in 530 shops in about 3 weeks.

Time: 4th February 2016 5:31am

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HughM says...
Regarding seedling propagation - please note that, while this is not prohibited under the PBR Act, the seedlings will not be true-to-type. It is likely that, if you plant 3 seeds, the resulting fruit from the trees will all be very different for each. Also, it is an offence under the Act to apply the name Queen Garnet to anything other than a clone of the real thing.

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Ayebaresan says...
Hi Peter1,

My local Greengrocer Betros Bros sells the Garnett juice (I live in Toowoomba, Queensland). But you can order the juice online from http://www.nutrafruit.com.au/products.html

I'm unsure if you buy it in small quantities or if you have to buy it in bulk from the online nutrafruit store. But I hope that helps.

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Peter1 says...
Hi Ayebaresan,
Thanks for that info, next time I'm in Toowoomba I'll have a look, in the meantime, thanks, but have placed an order with nutrafruit earlier.

Thanks for the thought though.
Cheers, Peter

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Diego says...
I am told that Queen Garnet yield is down 75% this year due to unfavourable growing conditions.

Time: 8th February 2016 5:56pm

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Joan says...
I don't get it... this article says that Nutrafruit has sent budwood overseas to meet demand, surely, selling budwood or grafted trees to Aussie home gardeners won't make a big dent on the demand for the plums:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-14/antioxidant-rich-plum-to-fight-obesity/6094914

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HughM says...
Hi Joan - it is about maintaining the security of the IP. Budwood has only gone to a few licensed growers overseas, as it has in Australia.
If trees are sold to home gardeners, the security of the IP is lost as there is no way of knowing who cuts wood from those home garden trees to propagate additional trees.

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Joan says...
Thanks, HughM. I am aware of IP rights, and there are a lot of plants and trees currently being sold under PBR protection. I guess it's a matter of waiting and see if they will start selling trees in the future. I sure want one! For personal use only, of course ;)

Cheers,

Joan

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Mrs Blossom says...
I was watching ABC Landland today 6 March 2016 & at last they are doing research using real people, the person stated clearly that 8 weeks in a rats life is about equivalent to 2 years human, so it will be while before they get the full results, but already seeing good results with Blood Pressure. Plus I guess the rats are in a controlled encased environment, whether humans can stick to it as strictly over a longer period is debatable. But what also came out of this is the food chemical that is doing good is also found in other foods, so perhaps a variety of dark purple foods such as carrots, beets, berries these plus any other healthy foods with same food chemical will be the way to go. I am also keen to grow a Q G Plum-tree, but as I'm too old to see them fruit enough for benefits I think, I may have to just buy those already on fruit stalls, or juices etc..

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ShazB says...
Hi everyone. For anyone in Adelaide, I have just bought some from a greengrocer in the Westlakes Mall in Adelaide. They have 250ml bottles of juice as well. How do you grow a plant from seed?

Time: 10th March 2016 4:14pm

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Betty says...
Would love a QG Tree and notification of availability in South Australia for home garden growing as dark plums are my favourite plum also when fruit is available in SA shops, until tree available. Thank you Elizabeth

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SallyA says...
The QG season is over unfortunately, the Juice is still available.
A LIST OF SUPPPLIERS in each state is available on the Nutrafruit web site.
Cick on News and it will show you the Fruiters that normally stock the fruit.
You can buy the Juice direct from Nutrafruit or your Fruiter should be able to get it in, my store sells it for $5.99 for a 250ml bottle, a bit expensive.
As it's such a short season, can we really get the purported benefits when we eat the plums for 2 1/2 mths ?
Im not sure how long the juice will be available for ??
To get the benefits I think one would have to take the QG Plum Probiotic Powder when the fruit and juice are out of season ??
As Chris mentioned - 16th Feb 2015 ...
It's not the only fruit containing anthocyanins.
Sure it may be higher than others, but there is plenty in other fruits to obtain similar health benefits.

Anthocyanin-rich foods (mg/100g or 100 ml*)
Anthocyanins Flavanols Proanthocyanidins
Blackberry 89-211 13-19 6-47
Blueberry 67-183 1 88-261
Grapes, red 25-92 2 44-76
Raspberries (red) 10-84 95-59
Strawberry 15-75 - 97-183
Red wine 1-35 1-55 24-70
Plum 2-25 1-6 106-334
Red cabbage 25 0 -
Red onion 13- 25 - -
Blood orange juice 3-10 - -

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/flavonoids/flavtab2.html


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Willem says...
Is there anybody growing the QG plum in WA?
I heard that it is not allowed to bring the QG into WA.
I would love to grow one in my garden.
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Julie says...
Willem, if you read the comments on this thread, you will that no-one is growing it at home in their gardens.

Hugh M explains why.

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Spidar says...
Any luck with the plums yet ?

Time: 2nd June 2016 6:43pm

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CH says...
In anticipation of attempting to (hopefully) try and grow one of these from a seed for a bit of fun, could someone please give me an idea of the best way to try and do this? From what I gather from above putting the seeds into the fridge for a period of time is required?

Also, anybody from Melbourne know when or where these will be available to be purchased?

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Linton says...
I planted some Queen Garnet seeds straight from the fruit about 18 months ago but none of them ever germinated. I suspect the reason might be that they require some cold stratification for a few months in the fridge first.

They are usually available from Woolies (Safeway) and the local fruit shop over Summer. Whereabouts in Melbourne are you located?

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ivepeters says...
Planted about a dozen seeds, last year, had only one pop up. Got to about a couple of inches, and then died back.
Didn't do anything special prior, just stuck them in some seed raising mix.

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Peter1 says...
Queen Garnett Plums are grown in Stanthorpe area (as far as I know), they do like cold conditions. Hugh M can correct this info.

Cheers, Peter1

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CH says...
Thank you for your response Linton, I remembered reading on here that putting them in the fridge would help but I wasn't sure if it was necessary.

I was hoping someone in the know might be able to tell me how long they need to be in the fridge for, if you need to take the seed kernel out from the stone (I'm assuming you do!), if you need to dry the kernel out before putting it in the fridge. Really basic things but I don't know them and if it's the difference between them germinating or not I don't mind looking a bit foolish :)

I live in Box Hill. I think I left it a bit late last year to get them and so missed out. Hoping to avoid that this year!

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ExoticFruitLover says...
Hi Guys just got first lot of QG plums from a fruit shop at Robina Town Centre on the Gold Coast. But $18.95 per kg 😱😱 but I still had to buy some hopefully they will come down in price in the coming weeks. I'll try my luck and plant some seeds. I know they won't be try to type but I'll just see what I get. Who knows they may turn out to be better the QG😀

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Hi Markmelb

How are your QG seedlings doing? Did they flower for you this season?

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Markmelb says...
Hi EFL - I grafted 4 scions from seedling - they are all growing great and could and im not sure as yet - have flowers and maybe fruit next year - havnt managed to see any fruiting buds yet but will keep you posted - Mariposas are almost size of my fist and Santa Rosas not far behind and ripening now. Huge Dagens and bigger Purple Gages too for some reason than last year.

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CH says...
Howdy folks,
I just wanted to let anyone in Melbourne who is interested in buying the QG plums know that they are available now at Woolworths stores. Get in quick because I believe they have short supplies this year. Happy eating!!!

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Justin says...
Tasted one the other day. It was OK, but no better than the Mariposa I have grown. I wouldn't get excited about the health claims though. Just eat a wide variety of unprocessed foods and you'll be right.

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Peter1 says...
Justin,

Sure, it would be boring just to eat the same however,Queen Garnett plum has been scientifically tested and scrutinized, something which can't be said about other plum varieties.


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My seedling, about a year old
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CH says...
Joan, how did you go about growing it from seed? I have a few seeds from the ones I bought and am keen to get them to grow - so far I have put them in a zip-lock bag in the fridge as I believe they need some chill hours or something?

Time: 10th March 2017 12:23pm

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Joan says...
Hi CH, I did nothing but eat the plums and stuck the seeds in pots, haha! I left them outdoors and let the winter break their dormancy naturally. I had about a dozen seeds, and more than half germinated. But then they started dying off at various times and I'm left with this strong seedling and a couple of sorry looking ones. I hope your seeds grow well for you

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SueBee says...
I brought some Queen Garnet Plums from Vic Market this week. Middle row four sites on left up from the deli area.Not cheap at $18 a kilo but will cold store the seeds and plant in late Winter with fingers crossed.


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Bryony says...
Hi Joan, as they are an hybrid, can you be sure they will throw true to the parent or have there genetics been stabilised somehow?

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SueBee says...
Have my seeds in the fridge until early Spring then will plant some in ground and some in pots - and watch!

Time: 3rd April 2017 9:02am

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Joan says...
Hi Bryony, I don't know if they will grow true to the parent or not. I'm just growing them for fun =)

Time: 10th April 2017 2:18pm

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Markmelb says...
Heres an update on the Queen Garnet Seedling project - First flowers opening today and lots more on branch as you can see - same time as Mariposa too so should get some fruit come February???? Still have another seedling for scion wood to graft next year - but lets see what comes of this?
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Time: 17th August 2017 5:35pm

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SueBee says...
Well done Mark,Look forward to your final results.Your plums are way ahead of mine, my Satsuma is just beginning to bud up now. My QG plums sat in the fridge all winter and will only now be planting the seeds.Fingers crossed.

Time: 18th August 2017 9:11am

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Markmelb says...
Result of the QG Seedling experiment - look for yourself - Have them bagged and found one had fallen caught on a twig -
Tastes sweet off the tree and seems as dark at the CV - is the majority of the antioxidant resveratrol in the skin? I still have a second seedling I havnt grafted just yet - will do this winter.
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Time: 19th January 2018 8:01am

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chookie2 says...
Well done Mark, they look identical to QG. My seeds have not yet shot so I am not hopeful but will leave them and other year in case they need an extra winter to shoot.

Time: 19th January 2018 10:26am

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jakfruit etiquette says...
If QG seedlings have lower levels of fruit antioxidant, you can simply eat more peices, ie 50% lower, eat 2 fruit.

Time: 19th January 2018 11:48am

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Mark

Congrats Mark for having persevered in your QGP seedling experiment til the sweet, luscious and mouth watering end. To that I salute you. Well Done Mark !!!

Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 20th January 2018 11:27am

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Markmelb says...
My fruit are obviously smaller as its on a mature now 15yo Plumcot that I don't even water at all - maybe mine is more concentrated as the real QGs are watered more i am sure? Anyone able to test for the secret ingredient anthocyanin? Could contain more? you never know.

Time: 21st January 2018 2:03pm

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chookie2 says...
I am guessing USQ wouldn't do it for you . LOL


Time: 22nd January 2018 8:12am

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chookie2 says...
I checked out this study but it does not differentiate between plum types or colours at all.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/dietary-factors/phytochemicals/flavonoids
Blackberries and blueberries seem to have the best figures but plums ( no type mentioned) come in ahead on Anthocyanidin.

Time: 22nd January 2018 11:07am

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chookie2 says...
This chart show we should all be growing and eating Elderberries & Currants!
Food Anthocyanidins
Cyanidin Delphinidin Malvidin Pelargonidin Peonidin Petunidin
Blackberries, raw 100 0 0

Time: 22nd January 2018 6:12pm

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peter30001 says...
Antho (CYANID) in

reminds me of apricot kernals.

Time: 22nd January 2018 11:04pm

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chookie2 says...
Blackberries,100,0,0,1.1
Blueberries, 8.5,35.4,67.6,0,20.3,31.5
Currants,62.5,89.6,0,0,1.2,1,3.9
Elderberries,485.3,0,0,1.0,0
Grapes red,1.2,2.3,39,1,3.6,2
Onions,red,raw.3.2,4.3,0,1,2.1,0
Plums, 5.6,0,0,0,1,0
Radish, raw,0,0,0,63.1,0,0,
Raspberries,45.8,1.3,1,1,1,1
Red Cabbage,209.8,1,0,1,0,0
Strawberries 1.7,1,1,24.9,1,1,
Wine,red shiraz,0,9.3,121.6,0,7.8,14.2
Numbers are for :Cyanidin Delphinidin Malvidin Pelargonidi Peonidin Petunidin which total to Anthocyanindins

Time: 23rd January 2018 9:39am

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stevesalisbury says...
I have been interested since watching the Landline story a few years ago. I finally found some fruit today and I'm going to try and grow a tree. I plan on keeping the stones in the fridge till spring. You have all inspired me.

Time: 17th February 2018 5:22am

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peter30001 says...
Hi Steve
i have been wanting to do the same thing
where did you end up finding the fruit??

Time: 17th February 2018 9:38pm

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CH says...
Hi Peter,

They are available at most Woolworths stores here in Melbourne, I believe they have some rights to stock them over Coles. I bought some this time last year and put them in the fridge until Spring. Had around a 50% success rate from seed. Good luck with it :)

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Time: 18th February 2018 7:07pm

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stevesalisbury says...
G'Day Peter
I've spent years hassling the staff at various woolies around the place, nobody in Adelaide knows about them. I found them at a little fruit & veg shop in Salisbury. I didn't buy many they were $15 a kilo. Good Luck

Time: 24th February 2018 12:56am

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phil@tyalgum says...
I've also found them in a tiny grocery shop in Uki, Northern NSW after scouring the bigger chain stores for years up here. They also get the juice in at the end of the season.

Time: 28th February 2018 10:49am

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Queen Garnet Plums, I didnt notice these in the shops this season, anyone else miss them ? Anyone else have developments or progress ??

Time: 15th May 2020 6:33pm

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CH says...
They were around for about a month (February) in Melbourne. They were cheaper than previous years too, about $8-$9 per kilo as opposed to $15ish. Still only in Woolworths though from what I saw, although didn't check too many independent grocers.

Time: 16th May 2020 2:42pm

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Edward3 says...
Markmelb, I am very surprised that you got flowers and then fruit on the graft of QG scion which came from a seedling only the previous year. I always thought that the scion would need to come from a mature tree in order to produce flowers straight away, and so did not see any point in grafting a young seedling scion onto a rootstock. But your experience seems to disprove that. Very interesting indeed.
As for growing QG from seed, I took a seed straight after eating the plum, cracked it open carefully using a macadamia nut cracker to avoid damage, and planted it in potting mix. It sprouted fairly quickly, so it doesn't seem to require cold stfratification.

Time: 12th May 2021 8:33pm

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Markmelb says...
Edward3 well the seedling was about 3yo to get a pencil thick scion.

Time: 13th May 2021 12:00pm

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ivepeters says...
Had a dozen flowers on my seed grown one, 1.2m tall, over the last month.


Time: 21st May 2021 4:07pm

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Edward3 says...
Ivepeters - How old is your seedling?

Time: 24th May 2021 1:14pm

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ivepeters says...
3 to 4 year

Time: 24th May 2021 6:52pm

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Shortyboyo says...
Hi ivepeters, just wondering how this is going? Did you get any fruit in the summer?

I have a couple of QC seedlings growing, been about 4 months exactly and they're looking pretty good. Just as a little experiment I decided to grow one hydroponically (Kratky method) and one semi-hydropnically (pumice and zeolite). The hydroponic one is 65cm tall already and the Semi-hydrooonic one is 49cm tall.
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jakfruit etiquette says...
quote Markmelb, I am very surprised that you got flowers and then fruit on the graft of QG scion which came from a seedling only the previous year.

One method to induce flowering is cincturing, removing a thin ring of bark to restrict sap flow.
It has also been suggested that the graft union itself could act as a permanent cincture to some extent, and that grafting of mature wood is the main, but not the only reason that grafted trees flower early.
Inverted ring grafting on a seedling is also suggested to result in early flowering, again another permanent cincture technique.

Time: 22nd July 2022 9:53pm

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ivepeters says...
Unfortunately no fruit set, didn't have anything at the time to cross pollinate it with, and didn't try to hand pollinate the flowers with each other.
Will have flowers from two other plums to try next time.

Time: 26th July 2022 7:41pm

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sandy31 says...
My 3 year old Queen Garnet plum seedling has flowers bud this year.. It seems it has low chill requirements.

location Sydney West

hopefully the fruit tastes good too with time...

note- only gulf Gold Plum is flowering and approx 8m away...Not sure if this Queen garnet seedling would be self Pollinating or may need a pollinator..
Any comments???

Time: 8th August 2024 11:02pm

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