seedless grape vine (forum)
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todd starts with ...
Was wondering what grape vine I can get that will grow in a large pot in the Brisbane region.
Time: 15th May 2022 2:22pm
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LeviGarden says...
Hi Todd,
I'm growing a few varieties in south coast nsw.
Ive only been growing these vines for 2-3 years, have cut all flowers I've seen at this stage, so I won't speak to fruit production, however, hopefully can give some insight into vine health in response to humidity, which may impact you to a greater extent up in Brisbane.
As far as pots goes, I'm growing all my vines in either 35L grow bags or half wine barrels. At the 2-3 year mark haven't had any problems due to pot vs. in ground, so far have had really strong growth each season (had a grape vine in-ground for some time a while back, so using that vague memory as a control).
If anything, I reckon having them in pots has helped limiting potential water logging, especially in combination with pumice stone in growing medium to up the drainage. I don't expect pot binding to become a problem for a while - also have seen many videos of people doing makeshift backyard 'vineyards' in pots/large buckets with what seems to be high production.
As far as seedless Vitis Vinefera, I have 'Maroo Seedless' and 'Black opal'. From my limited experience, I have found "Black opal" to have a higher tolerance to mildews than 'Maroo Seedless'. Also had a more vigorous growth habit. So can recommend "Black Opal" in that regard.
If you end up venturing to seeded Vitis Vinefera, I've found "Carolina Black rose" to have similar tolerance and vigour to "Black opal", for point of reference, these two required no spraying until really late summer where had the unprecedented rainfall, used one or two applications of eco-fungicide and had no further problems. Removed some affected leaves throughout summer/autumn also.
For hybrid seeded grapes, "Chambourcin" has had reasonable mildew tolerance for me, little bit less than 'CBR' and 'Black opal'. The vine is in an area with a bit less airflow relative to the other though, so could have affected it. Great vigour though.
Best grape here has been "Isabella black" though. If you change your mind on seeds and you don't mind the Vitis Labrusca taste profile, I've found it to outperform all the other varieties I'm growing here so far, both in terms of vigour and disease resistance.
I ditched Gordo blanco, Crimson Seedless, and Pink Iona after 1-2 years. Found them to be not worth the hassle.
I'm sure others on the forum have more experience and can provide greater insight, this is just my 2 cents.
Hope it helps
Time: 31st May 2022 10:26pm
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Julie says...
What was the eco-fungicide that you used? I have some sort of fungus on my celery and don't want to use a chemical fungicide.
Time: 6th June 2022 6:42pm
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LeviGarden says...
Hi Julie,
The eco-fungicide I used was by a brand "Eco-Organic Garden". I think if you search "Eco-Organic Garden 500g Eco-Fungicide" you'll find it.
Time: 9th June 2022 6:28pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Might be Eco carb from OCP ?
based on Potassium Bicarbonate.
Or Eco Carb Plus,
based on Potassium Bicarbonate with the Systemic Acquired Resistance (SAR) effect of Potassium silicate.
100 % Kelp Seaweed based sprays, but diluted to spray might be useful too.
Some other natural fungicides are microbe based, which may not be suitable for salad vegetables you want to eat quickly.
Interested to know what works, we are back to having dull winters here.
Time: 10th June 2022 8:44am
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Julie says...
Thanks Levi and jakfruit, I'll have a look at both of them. I so rarely have disease problems I've forgotten how to deal with them.
Time: 11th June 2022 11:38am
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