Seville Orange (forum)

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I've recently arrived in Perth and currently I'm looking for a seville orange tree to buy or one to propagate from. Any suggestions

Time: 1st October 2008 7:05pm

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Anonymous says...
They are polyembryonic and normally grow true from seed if you can get hold of some. Only use fresh seed from citrus tho as they aren't viable when dried.

Time: 3rd October 2008 8:49am

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Adam says...
I'm also after Seville orange trees or seed. Unfortunately all the trees I have seen to date are of the "Smooth Seville Orange" type which isn't what I'm after.

"Seville orange" seems to be a synonym for "sour orange" of any type in Australia and the smooth seville appears to be a sour orange-pummelo hybrid.

I am after is the type of rough skinned sour orange that is commonly seen in southern Spain (Seville for instance...) and is imported to Scotland for making marmalade. Known locally as Sevillano or Agrio de Espana, Real etc

Are the Sour orange (Citrus aurantium) seeds sold for producing rootstock closer to what I am looking after?

Time: 6th November 2008 3:54pm

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Anonymous says...
Try TAss 1trees in upper swan.

Time: 6th November 2008 9:46pm

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John says...
Olea Nsy in Manjimup list the rough seville, any nursery can order one in for you.

Time: 7th November 2008 10:36am

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Adam says...
I cannot see any type of Seville listed on the website, but have contacted them with a query. Thank you for the information.

Time: 7th November 2008 11:02am

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Adam says...
The owners were good enough to get back to me, unfortunately that do not stock Seville oranges of any variety.

Time: 7th November 2008 1:23pm

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Anonymous says...
Thas wired their nsy catalogu clearly states they sell them and have them in stock. try davids garden centre in forrestfield.

Time: 8th November 2008 10:04pm

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Adam says...
The owners have said that they don't have them.

Essentially I don't think that they exist in Australia now. None of the specialist growers have them and as the Smooth Seville has been around since the early 20th century, I think that this latter type has replaced the true Seville in Australia, both as a rootstock and as a fruit tree.

The only source I can think of is if somebody had an older tree on a private property.

Time: 10th November 2008 9:18am

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Felicity says...
HI - Did you ever get anywhere in your search for Seville Orange stock? We cannot locate any either. Just the smooth skin and that is not the same thing at all, apparently.



Time: 17th May 2010 9:10am

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Julie says...
I have a Seville orange tree I planted about 15-18 years ago. It makes wonderful marmalade, and one lady travels up to the hills each year to get some oranges.

I think so few people make marmalade these days,that there is not much demand for the tree.

When they are ripe, I can send seeds to any one who wants them. You can email me at: julwood at iprimus dot com dot au. (safe way to put addresses on the forum to avoid spam)

Time: 17th May 2010 8:27pm

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Felicity says...
HI there Julie,

I am also looking for the rough skinned Seville Orange (Citrus aurantium).

I will send you an email

Felicity


Time: 25th July 2010 1:42pm

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J says...
Try perrys fruit and nut in SA and http://www.sunraysianurseries.com.au Sunraysia nurseries have Seville oranges listed on their websites. Give them a shot.

Time: 25th July 2010 7:26pm

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Julie says...
I have replied to your email Felicity, but now I'm not sure if you want a whole orange or some seeds. Let me know.

Time: 26th July 2010 6:51pm

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Julie says...
Felicity, Hamish, Ally and Rev: I should be able to send off some seeds later in the week. They are late ripening this year.

Do I have all your addresses? If not, send me an email.

Time: 20th September 2010 8:48pm

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Felicity says...
HI there Julie,

I arrive home this morning and we have taken the seeds from the oranges you sent - there were about thirty seeds in all, put them in potting mix, watered them in and are now standing around with arms crossed and tapping our feet waiting for them to germinate. :)

Thank you so much for your genorisity,

Felicity

Time: 14th October 2010 11:22am

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Julie says...
My Seville orange seeds have germinated! It seemed to take for ever, but was actually only 3 1/2 weeks. It's been hard in the 36c heat to keep them damp, but I put them near the front door to remind me to water during the day.

Anyone else had success?

Time: 1st December 2010 10:08pm

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allybanana says...
Johno had them up in about a week on the heat mat, they are now ready for transptanting, as the taproots are getting bent in the little containers.
Thanks again julie

Time: 1st December 2010 11:10pm

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MaryT says...
No success yet with the seeds you sent me, Julie, and I have given up hope though still keeping them damp. Miracles do happen :) Thanks for the seeds anyway.

Time: 3rd December 2010 6:56pm

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MaryT says...
CORRECTION! Two seeds have sprouted, Julie!!! Still just a tiny green loop - I hope they thrive!

Time: 6th December 2010 12:52pm

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allybanana says...
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Time: 7th December 2010 3:54pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks allybanana, another seed has sprouted since my last post - interesting to read about your stepdad's 'heatmat". My seeds only sprouted after I put the punnets on an old frying pan in the sun, then it happened within a couple of days. :) Hope they stay alive. When should I transplant them?

Time: 8th December 2010 7:06am

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Claire says...
Hi allybanana, I would love a seville seedling. I would be happy to pay you. If you have any you would be willing to part with!

Time: 14th December 2010 12:50pm

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Claire says...
OOps Just noticed you are in the east and I am in WA :( never mind I will keep my fingers crossed for some seeds :)

Time: 14th December 2010 12:52pm

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MaryT says...
Photo of seedlings from seeds of Julie's Seville Orange
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Picture: 1

Time: 15th December 2010 7:52pm

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Brad says...
Clare try Julie further up in the thread who is in roleystone as she said she also started some seedlings and may be able to help you out

@Julie - I might ask for some seed next year. lots to sort out first

Time: 15th December 2010 8:40pm

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MaryT says...
Julie: how many people received seeds from your tree? I would like to know where the siblings of my seedlings went and how they are doing.

Time: 17th December 2010 8:54am

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Julie says...
Seven now Mary. Claire emailed me and they are being sent off today. I have only heard from you and allybanana re success rate. Mine are doing well.

Time: 17th December 2010 4:05pm

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MaryT says...
Wouldn't it be great to do a "family tree' of the tree? LOL I have seven seedlings so some of them will go elsewhere... love to know if the 'descendants' of the Julie Tree will spread around the country... the ripple effect. Anyway, mine are sprouting a second set of leaves - looking good!

Time: 17th December 2010 5:19pm

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Julie says...
What a lovely idea Mary. Not sure how you would do it though.

The Julie tree - love it! I guess it's the only way I will ever be immortal! I am thinking down the track I would try and sell them to a nursery.

Time: 17th December 2010 10:24pm

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MaryT says...
Why not? There are enough people wanting it. Fruit for home made organic marmalade. Can't get better than that.

Time: 18th December 2010 10:51am

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Claire says...
I received my seeds today and potted them up as soon as they arrived. I am very grateful to Julie, and very excited for the little seeds to sprout.
Thanks again Julie, you are a champ!

Time: 20th December 2010 11:24pm

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allybanana says...
I had a great day with your seedlings I thought i was being generouse giving away the seedlings at seedsavers follow up grafting day. To my suprise I came home with a sugarecane plant three persimmon seedlings and six strawberry guava seedlings. Life is pretty good

Time: 21st December 2010 11:23pm

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Lachlann says...
Thanks to Julie and Allybanana for one of those seville seedlings. I would enjoy hearing a little more about how the rough seville is better and the way in which it is used to make marmalade. Is the pith intensely bitter?


Time: 22nd December 2010 10:31pm

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MaryT says...
@Lachlann: it's just a matter of taste; some people prefer supermarket marmalade because they're used to it; others prefer the bitter sweet - like dark chocolates versus sweet milk chocolates.


Time: 23rd December 2010 3:33pm

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allybanana says...
Mary T, Great analogy that rich dark chocolate is bitter, but sooooo good. My family makes Seville orange marmalade to sell and it has a loyal following. I will ask them for the recipe for you Lachlann the next time I see them.

Wow Lachlann, ID 873 you have been involved a while, my son Jesse and i put in the sugar cane, it is looking happy, the position has some protection from frost but it could get scorched on one side.

Part of Johno and my interest in Seville is as a cold resistant, drought resistant rootstock for a largish tree. I heard somewhere Meyer lemon grafted onto it is a tough combination for dryer colder areas. I want to try grafting this combination and with Satsuma mandarin to grow in the ACT and a mates farm in Towamba southern NSW. A thoughtfully given fruit tree makes the best christmas and birthday presents I think.


Time: 24th December 2010 4:10pm

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MaryT says...
Seville Orange Marmalade makes the best glaze on baked ham - try it!

Time: 25th December 2010 1:13pm

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Leah says...
Hi allybanana
I would love to buy a few seedlings of the Seville oranges from you if you have any left. Can you post them? It will be a while before I can get down your way. I have been looking for little plants for ages because I would love to try growing them on. The oranges make the most delicious marmalade don't they.
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Time: 3rd January 2011 9:53am

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allybanana says...
Lea, yes there are a few spare with my family at Pialligo Apples in the ACT, are you planning on going to the ACT sometime or know someone going there? Otherwise they will post, dont worry about paying for them, i didnt pay julie for the seeds. allydalton.sculpture@gmail.com

Your not my uni friend Lea Morgan are you, she loved gardening and mooved to the blue mountains years ago and we lost contact

Time: 3rd January 2011 9:24pm

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Jessica says...
So good to hear it's possible to get rough skinned Seville oranges for Marmalade in Australia. It's the Seville season in Europe and my family will be making their marmalade. Hoping Julie will have a seed or two to spare when the time is right here.

Time: 14th January 2011 10:22am

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MaryT says...
Jessica, Julie's Seville Orange has seedlings all over Australia! The photo is of my seedling from the Julie Tree.

I have nine 'trees' each with four leaves so don't know if I will live to see fruit (how long would it take?) but will make sure the trees live on... once they are a decent size I will find new homes for eight of them. :)

Time: 14th January 2011 11:36am

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paula g says...
I have been looking for sevilles for ages and found this forum quite by accident. How wonderful. can anyone send me a seedling ,willing to pay for postage?
GO THE JULIE DYNASTY!!

Time: 8th February 2011 9:45am

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MaryT says...
paula g - Julie lives in Roleystone WA where the fire was so we are all worried about her AND the Julie Tree. Fortunately she's posted seeds to lots of us so unless someone closer to you has a seedling I am happy to let you have one. I will hold the others in case Julie wants them back! What is your email address?

Time: 8th February 2011 10:37am

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Julie says...
Thanks so much for your email Mary.No, I won't want any back, even if these die (no water for three days 'cos of fires).There is always next year!

Time: 8th February 2011 7:41pm

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Grant says...
Hi Julie I am chasing a couple of Seville
Oranges as well. I have spoken to Olea who don't grow it anymore & also David's G/C who have stopped budding it as well. These 2 oranges I would like to grow at Pemberton although I could put 1 in at Araluen Botanic Park which would ensure the future of this variety for people to access.

Time: 18th April 2011 2:29pm

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Julie says...
Hi Grant, you work at Araluen I think? I can let you have a seedling or two when they have grown on a bit - still a bit small. I'll contact you through Araluen.

Strange that so many people love Seville marmalade, but no-one grows it any more. I hope I have done my bit in keeping it going!



Time: 19th April 2011 8:16pm

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MaryT says...
Julie, your tree has children everywhere and the siblings will continue its line. Good on you.

Time: 20th April 2011 7:39am

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Grant says...
Thanks Julie, look forward to hearing from you when they are ready.

Time: 22nd April 2011 8:10pm

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Violet_Cactus says...
Mine are growing well, Julie! Thanks again!
From Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall - "As distinct from a regular orange as a tangerine or pomelo, these highly aromatic, bumpy-skinned wonders originated in China and India more than 3,000 years ago

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Julie says...
Violet, thanks for the recipe, it sounds interesting. I notice it says to use in 3-4 weeks.

I made lemon butter - which shouldn't be much different - and kept it in the fridge for months! Not the first time I've done this. It was fine, and several people ate it.

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Violet_Cactus says...
Hi Julie, I can't tell you first hand how long the Seville Orange Curd keeps as I have not tried making it myself, but I imagine it probably *would* keep longer than 4 weeks.

Time: 25th April 2011 8:49am

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R vemulapalli says...
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Appreciate if could send me few Seville orange seeds when available.
Sincerely
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Time: 6th July 2011 8:15am

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Appreciate if could send me few Seville orange seeds when available.
Sincerely
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Time: 6th July 2011 8:16am

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Paul says...
Hi Julie,
Could I organise to grab some Seville seeds as well.
Thanks
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Time: 10th July 2011 4:54pm

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Julie says...
I will post a message when the seeds are ready - probably around August/September. Watch this space!

Time: 10th July 2011 9:35pm

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Legadomaya says...
Hi Julie,
Could I grab some Seville Seeds too. We just cam back from Mexico and we are looking for a substitute for Naranja Agria which I have read up on. They use it a lot in the cooking from Merida. I think the orange Seville would be a good replacement.
If you have the time to send them to Brisbane that would be great. Are they hard to propagate?
Cheers
Paul

Time: 31st July 2011 10:43am

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Julie says...
Legadomaya, no, they were quite easy. From feedback, most other people I sent them to had litle difficulty either.

Time: 31st July 2011 7:00pm

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Wazzbat says...
Not interested in the Seville Orange myself but loved just reading all the posts. Great story going on here. Good on you Julie for supplying the seeds and to everyone else who is helping keep the "Julie Tree" alive.

Time: 31st July 2011 8:42pm

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Xiem says...
Yes I agree with Wazzbat. Julie has been very kind with her seeds. She has created a large seville orange julie-tree orchard albeit that it is fragmented into many different parts of the country. Perhaps the descendant trees should have their own distinctive botanical name of citrus aurantium julia.

Time: 1st August 2011 11:36am

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Julie says...
Blushing now!!

Time: 1st August 2011 6:36pm

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MaryT says...
Julie Tree update: Fine if nibbled 10 cm tall
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Time: 2nd August 2011 5:14pm

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MaryT says...
The photo is of the Julie Tree seedling sprouted on 6 December 2010 - almost 8 months old!

Time: 2nd August 2011 5:31pm

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amanda says...
Well Roleystone Julie - looks like you may have a tree named after you - and u may become immortal!? Nice one! :)

Time: 6th August 2011 11:28pm

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Irene says...
Just discovered this amazing forum after starting a batch of marmalade from the smooth-skinned bitter oranges. These are the only ones I can buy here.
Am missing the rough-skinned ones, especially as in Sydney I'd raised 5 plants for 5 yrs from seeds from Seville and then had to give them away in order to move to Tassie.
Would love to start a Tassie branch of Julie's Rough Seville plants. Can you please put me on the list Julie?

Time: 7th August 2011 11:09pm

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Julie says...
Will do. Watch this thread in a month or so (maybe later). I'll let you all know when they are ripe.

Time: 8th August 2011 7:29pm

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Debbie says...
Hi Julie
Could you put me on your list for some rough skinned Seville orange seeds please. My smooth seville has just cropped for the second time and I am curious to discover the difference rough sevilles make in marmalade. Thank you for your generosity.

Time: 10th August 2011 3:43am

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Brad says...
Hi Julie, I wondered how did you transport them so they were still fresh?

Time: 10th August 2011 3:14pm

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Julie says...
Brad, I wrapped them in damp paper towel, then bubble wrap, soon after I collected them. Seems to have worked, as everyone has had good germination - as far as I've heard.

Time: 10th August 2011 7:45pm

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Irene says...
Thanks so much Julie!

Time: 15th August 2011 9:59pm

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juanita says...
Hi Julie!
Im from melbourne,could you also pls include me in your list for seville rough orange seeds?..I'll pay for the postage...Thanks in advance

Time: 16th August 2011 12:42am

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Julie says...
OK juanita.

Time: 16th August 2011 7:05pm

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Julie says...
I checked on them today. They are disappointingly small and green, so still have a while to go. They seem to get later every year!

Time: 17th August 2011 8:21pm

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Lara says...
Hi Julie

Would love if you could send me a few seeds. I will pay for postage or can pick up which ever is easiest. :)


Time: 17th August 2011 9:20pm

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Leah says...
Thanks ,Julie,would love to have some seeds when they're ready. Will pay for the postage.
Leah

Time: 25th August 2011 9:17am

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Bernadette says...
I'm so excited to just find this forum at the right time.
July, I would REALLY appreciate some seeds too, if possible, and very happy to pay postage and packing etc.
I'm in Sydney, and make marmalade each year from the common smooth skinned 'seville' oranges, but I remember having marmalade in England made from the rought skinned ones, and it was wonderful.
I also belong to the local seed savers, and would also love to pass the Julia tree on. :-)
Bernadette

Time: 30th August 2011 9:35am

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MaryT says...
Hi Bernadette, I have some spare seedlings from the Julie Tree and you're welcome to them. I'm in Sydney so you can pick up. Let me know at tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au

Time: 30th August 2011 9:58am

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vemulapalli says...
dear julie
please send me few seeds as soon as they are ready .i will send to my folks in india
vemulapalli

Time: 7th September 2011 10:28am

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Julie says...
vemulapalli, where is mankato mn?

Time: 7th September 2011 8:14pm

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Gippshome says...
Hi Julie,

Mankato, MN is in the US (Minnesota is the state).

I'm from Victoria too, any chance for some seeds too?

Great to hear that this tree is growing all around Australia!

Time: 9th September 2011 7:10pm

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Julie says...
Gipp, check out the forum next month - they are a bit slow this year.

Time: 9th September 2011 8:47pm

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virginia says...
Am also watching the forum and have emailed you Julie a little time ago
for some seeds/orange. I had a friend
40 yrs ago who made the best marmalade in the world from Seville oranges that she collected from her friends place down the street. Am hoping to do the same in the future.

Time: 11th September 2011 10:56pm

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Xiem says...
Wow, the Julie-tree orchard is spreading to Minnesota! At this rate it may even get back to Spain or retrace its migration through North Africa and then India/China where the sour orange is supposed to have originated.

Time: 12th September 2011 10:40am

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Julie says...
I used to have a look at Jamie Oliver's forum now and then. Seems Seville oranges are available in Britain (probably from Spain?)as people were asking each other when they were ready. Odd that you can't seem to get them here, or the marmmalade isn't made commercially any more.

Time: 12th September 2011 8:56pm

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John Mc says...
Strange, there's a grafted Seville for sale at one of my local nurseries. There was also some at the Flora festival at the w/e as well.

Time: 12th September 2011 11:06pm

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MaryT says...
I noticed Engall's at Dural NSW also has it for sale. Guess where there's a market for it, growers supply. Only trouble is not all "Seville Oranges" sold are the real thing though Engalls has the Citrus aurantium.

Time: 13th September 2011 12:04am

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Jo LN says...
Hi Julie, when your babies are ripe could I please have a go with your seeds? I used to make loads of marmalade with sevilles when we lived in the UK, I didn't eat it though because I was always on a diet!

My husband says he'll even buy me a special pot to grow them in!

Did you know that you can freeze the fruit to use later in the year? I used to buy bags of them in January and still be making marmalade in July.

Thanks Jo

Time: 13th September 2011 8:46pm

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Bernadette says...
Hi Julie, I asked on 30th August for some seeds of the Julia tree, but I'm writing to say I don't need them now, thank you.
Mary T replied on forum kindly offering me a seedling she had raised. It's now sitting in it's pot, enjoying spring rain, and I hope to pass seeds on to others in the future.
Thanks.
Bernadette

Time: 25th September 2011 1:28pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks for giving a home to another Julie seedling Bernadette. I noticed that Bunnings at Artamon has "Seville Orange" trees for sale but the botanic name on the tag says Citrus sinensis, which I understand to be the sweet orange. Citrus aurantium is the bitter orange. Buyers beware.

Time: 26th September 2011 7:10am

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BobW says...
Interested in the propagation of bitter Seville orange (Citrus aurantium)

Time: 26th September 2011 5:07pm

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BobW says...
Oops. I would be very grateful if I could impose on Julie's generosity with the Seville Orange seeds. Happy to pay any costs or charges

Time: 26th September 2011 5:10pm

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Julie says...
Bob, We are having unusual cold, wet weather here in WA, and the oranges will be very late this year. I'll let you all know on the forum. Too many to reply to individually!

Time: 27th September 2011 8:20pm

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MaryT says...
Julie may I suggest you ask everyone who wants seeds to send you a stamped self addressed envelope? Then when you have seeds you can just pop them in and post them.

Time: 28th September 2011 10:43am

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Julie says...
That's probably a good idea Mary. Last time they cost I think $1.20, as the envelope was quite thick.

Not sure how I can let people know my address safely on the forum.

Time: 28th September 2011 7:11pm

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MaryT says...
You can use the Poste Restante system if you go to the post office regularly. They will hold the mail for you for one month so you can give the address

First Name Last Name
Poste Restante
Suburb State Postcode

they may ask for ID when you collect

Time: 29th September 2011 9:40am

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Jimmy says...
Its 30 days ex overseas and 14 days within Australia and only certain post offcies will do it eg GPO's and major centres.

Other spots will as a courtesy but my post office RTS as the boss didn;'t like it.

Time: 29th September 2011 12:29pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks for the info Jimmy. My PO would do anything for me because I always say hello and address them by their names (on their name tags) and SMILE but I know not all post office staff are friendly. :(

Time: 29th September 2011 5:48pm

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virginia says...
I guess it's too expensive to hire a post office box for a limited time that we could access?? We could all pay a bit more to you Julie, after all we are getting a whole tree! or trees .

Time: 2nd October 2011 12:12am

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amanda says...
Julie - a good way around this is to set yourself up a gmail account - it's easy and free (rather than use your regular email account) and get people to make contact with you there and post their mailing address to this account...

This way your home email account stays private.

Maybe Daleys might be interested in the seeds too....given the popularity and rareness of this orange...?! :)

Time: 2nd October 2011 12:47pm

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Julie says...
Not really worried about my email account - I put it on forums in a safe way that's not easily picked up by spammers.

How bad is it to put your personal adress on a website? Who is likely to use it? These days it's all online spamming. I never get anything in the mail.

Time: 2nd October 2011 4:26pm

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amanda says...
Julie - I just get people to email me (putting my email here, safely) and then they make contact via email and we swap details from there..?
I don't think it's a good idea to put your street address on a public forum.

Time: 2nd October 2011 6:55pm

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Virginia says...
Am happy to email if that works best I don't put my address on any forums
too conservative

Time: 3rd October 2011 12:15pm

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Julie says...
Yep, that's how I've done it before, so I'll continue with that.

Time: 3rd October 2011 9:12pm

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Prue says...
I haven't lived in Perth for several years now, but once upon a time you could go 4 wheeling in an area near Kwinana and the old railway yard. There where some derelict homesteads out there with some old citrus trees, looked like an orange but tasted bitter. There was also lemon, cotton, garlic, pomegranate and mulberry? I don't know if this area is still around but thought it may be of interest to anyone SOR.

Time: 4th October 2011 6:52pm

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Virginia says...
do I have to have a special growing mix to get the seeds sprouted ? can I use grow pots ?

Time: 4th October 2011 10:12pm

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Xiem says...
Grow pots are a good idea Virginia but any pots will do. I used seed raising mix to sprout my Julie seeds and it worked fine.

Time: 5th October 2011 9:49am

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Virginia says...
ok thanks !

Time: 5th October 2011 8:35pm

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Zen says...
Hi Julie
I am very interested in the rough seville orange seeds, I'd love to have some seeds, will send you a reply paid self addressed envelope and any other cost.
I'll do my best to grow and keep "julies" alive.
Many Thanks

Time: 8th October 2011 1:21am

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Zen says...
Hi Julie
I am very interested in the rough seville orange seeds, I'd love to have some seeds, will send you a reply paid self addressed envelope and any other cost.
I'll do my best to grow and keep "julies" alive.
Many Thanks

Time: 8th October 2011 1:23am

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Julie says...
Watch the forum Zen. Still not ripe. Dunno what's going on.

Time: 8th October 2011 7:50pm

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Xiem says...
Zen if you are east of Melbourne, I could give you a couple of Julie tree seedlings. They are only two inches high but would save you germination time.

Time: 9th October 2011 8:33am

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Virginia says...
what's a heat mat please someone?

Time: 9th October 2011 9:51pm

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MaryT says...
Hi Virginia - you can buy or make a heat mat for seed propagation; the idea is to bring the temperature up to optimum level for seed germination.

Time: 10th October 2011 6:48am

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amanda says...
I wonder if those heated doggie mats/electric blankets (for a small dog) would be a cheaper way of going about it? Some of propagation mats are very expensive?

Time: 10th October 2011 12:16pm

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San says...
Hi Xiem, would you have one or two spare seedlings for another Melbourne person?

Time: 10th October 2011 2:23pm

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San says...
Hi Julie, I am planting a group of citrus and wish to include a Rough Seville Orange. I was astonished to learn that they are so hard to source in Australia. Two days ago my search led me to this amazing forum. I would be most grateful to be able to obtain some seed and/or seedlings - so I will keep an eye out for your news of fruit. Apart from the new citrus trees I am planting, I have a lovely Meyer Lemon in a pot and access to a property with a 60+ year old Washinton Navel tree that produces prolifically each winter.


Time: 12th October 2011 11:12am

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Xiem says...
Sure San. Just give me your email and I will advise contact details.

Time: 12th October 2011 11:40am

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San says...
Hi Xiem, very kind to offer.
Best contact sah927(at)gmail(dot)com

Time: 12th October 2011 12:48pm

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Virginia says...
thank you both for reply s about the heatmats something to think about.....

Time: 13th October 2011 12:57am

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Bob says...
Hi Xiem,
If you have any spare, I would be most appreciative if I could get two seedlings. I live in the Melbourne area so could collect.

Time: 15th October 2011 6:31pm

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Xiem says...
Yes fine Bob. Just give me your email and I will arrange for you to pick up a couple.

Time: 16th October 2011 5:01pm

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Zen says...
Hi Xiem
I couldn't see your post on time but I hope your offer is still ON, this is my email : ghamrawi_z(at)hotmail(dot)com
thank you so much

Time: 18th October 2011 8:48pm

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Bob says...
Many thanks Xiem. My email is bob(dot)white(at)whitegreen(dot)com(dot)au
Bob

Time: 19th October 2011 1:58pm

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Zen says...
Xiem..
your two "trees" are nice and healthy, will post some photos soon. Thank you so much

Time: 27th October 2011 11:00pm

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Xiem says...
That's great Zen. Good luck with them. You will be making your own Julie-tree bitter marmalade in no time! You may be interested in this website:

http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/souroranges.html#sevillano

Time: 28th October 2011 9:56am

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Bob says...
Hi Xiem, I have not received an email response. Was there a glitch? Regards, Bob

Time: 28th October 2011 6:38pm

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Xiem says...
Sorry Bob I missed your post. I will email you.

Time: 28th October 2011 6:47pm

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Kane says...
Hi Xiem, if you have any more seedlings spare I would really appreciate one. It would be great for marmalade and a good addition to my hop vines for putting into my home made witbier. Please let me know. kane(dot)marinko(at)gmail(dot)com. Really appreciate it.

Kane.

Time: 7th November 2011 5:20pm

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Will email you Kane.

Time: 8th November 2011 11:21am

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Giovanni says...
Hi all; brilliant effort by everyone to keep the rough Seville going down under. I'm just preparing to establish a backyard espalier fruit orchard and would love to add home made marmalade to the mix. Does anyone anywhere around Melbourne/Geelong have a couple of seedlings to spare? Failing that some seeds would be greatly appreciated when available.
Cheers, Giovanni

Time: 9th November 2011 1:29pm

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Xiem says...
Giovanni I still have a couple left BUT
the seedlings are very small (1") and I am east of Melbourne, a long way from you. If you think it is worth the trip, you may also be given the job of dropping off a seedling to Juanita who would probably be on your route.

Time: 9th November 2011 2:49pm

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Giovanni says...
No problem Xiem; my work takes me east of the city quite often and a drop off to Juanita would be the least I could do if she is on my path. My email is gtrombino(at)aesc(dot)com(dot)au

Time: 11th November 2011 1:55pm

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Paul says...
Hi Julie, just wondered if you had any seeds this year, could you email me at pawise(dot)gmail(dot)com if there are any

Time: 12th November 2011 12:30am

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juanita says...
Hi Giovanni...i've emailed you & im waiting for your reply.

Time: 12th November 2011 1:45am

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OzTek says...
Hi Mary & Julie,
I'm I'm Sydney, would be really awesome if I could get some seeds plz. Willing to pay


Time: 19th November 2011 4:38am

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MaryT says...
Hi OzTek, My seedlings are just under a year old and won't fruit for a while (years); you'll have to rely on the Julie tree for seeds.

Time: 19th November 2011 6:39am

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juanita says...
Hi Zhiem, Tnx heaps for Julie's Seville's orange seedling.I'll give it a lot of TLC...And to Giovanni, thank you so much for dropping it off to me on your way home..Good luck to your seedlings!



Time: 19th November 2011 1:17pm

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mortonbaychestnut says...
Oh my goodness... I have been looking around for rough seville to make marmalade for ages!!

Hi Julie, any chance you may spare a few seeds as well? What would the cost of postage to Adelaide be?

Sincerest thanks!!!

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Time: 4th December 2011 6:19pm

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Julie says...
I am really, really sorry, and more than a little embarassed - but it looks like no orange seeds this year. It has been a very strange year, weatherwise, and some of my fruits have not acted normally.

The Seville just refuses to mature and turn orange, and the seeds have not really developed. Apologies to all the people who have been patiently waiting, and maybe better luck next year.

Time: 5th December 2011 8:57pm

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MaryT says...
Don't worry, Julie! You've done great for the rest of us - and HAPPY BIRTHDAY JULIE TREE - my seedling is one year old!!!
Pictures - Click to enlarge

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Time: 6th December 2011 6:43pm

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Virginia says...
Oh Julie
please dont worry yes the weather has been most odd indeed!
We'll try again next year!
Happy and Holy Christmas to you and your Family


Time: 9th December 2011 10:28pm

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mortonbayhestnut says...
Julie,

No problems!!

Can you place me on the waiting list for next year?

Many, many thanks...

Season's greetings!!

Time: 14th December 2011 10:28pm

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Lizzie says...
Hi, I am originally from South America, I am looking for sour oranges for cooking purposes, there is this pork dish marinated in sour oranges that cubans are famous for, but can not get sour oranges here, would anyone know where I can get them? Many thanks,

Time: 19th December 2011 4:12pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Probably from a Citrus seller, at Bris Mkts, otherwise fruit shops that carry more unusual stuff. The two main types here are called smooth seville and rough seville, which are sometimes sold for making marmalade. Smooth is like a big orange grapefruit, Rough seville is maybe closer to the type you know, but the juice is not much different. Fruit harvest is just finishing in Vic, so you might still catch some now. It is also used in middle east cusine, I think it's called naranj ?

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Neil Keron says...
Hi everybody, I'm trying to find a Seville orange seedling to make my own marmalade. Does anyone have a Julie offspring they can spare? I can't seem to find one commercially anywhere. I'm happy to pay either cash now or marmalade when they come to fruition. Happy to pay transport costs as well.
Thanks and Regards
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Time: 4th April 2012 10:34am

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Ilijas says...
Hi Neil,

Julie has posted about this on another thread, and last year the fruits were affected by something and fell off without ripening, but is hoping to get a nice crop this winter so that she can save the seeds.

She's been incredibly generous with it, and has said that she will post a new thread in a few months once the seeds are ready.



Time: 6th April 2012 1:38pm

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Monika says...
Hi Xiem
I too live in Melb and would live a seedling if any are acailable. Do these come from the Julie tree as well

Time: 19th April 2012 9:21am

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Ilijas says...
HI Xiem,

You wouldn't happen to have any seedlings for sale, now would you? ;)

Time: 19th April 2012 9:49am

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Xiem says...
Neil and Monika I have now moved to Qld but I left some of my Julie seedlings with a friend in Thomastown to look after. I have only a few left and I'm not sure how they are faring lately (he has been away oseas). If you are interested in picking one up from him, let me know by email. zhiemwehxun at gmail dot com

Time: 19th April 2012 9:49am

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Ilijas says...
Email sent!

A thousand thank yous, Xiem.


Time: 19th April 2012 10:31am

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lamboinoz says...
After years (!) of submissions about marmalade - the best orange marm without doubt - finally Jakfruit mentioned his Cuban pork dishes. I'm from LA originally and living in Aus for most of my life, have always used the orange/lime/grapefruit/vinegar combo variously recommended as a replacement for Seville orange juice in many Mexican recipes, often for pork too. The food's great but it's not the same. For all you lucky Julie recipients, I suggest you start collecting Latin American recipes for the wonderful day your seedlings start to bear. So good.

I just spoke to Engall's and their Seville is citrus aurantium but smooth-skinned. The fantastically helpful guy on the phone says they haven't been able to source rough-skinned stock for years. He said that though the species is the same the fruit characteristics differ. They continue to try to source the rough-skinned variety but didn't seem hopeful since for their purposes, the strain had to be certified. Julie, I wonder how tortuous that certification procedure is - maybe you can be the Seville queen of Australia.

If anyone has managed to find rough-skinned Sevilles for sale, please say where. So many people have asked Julie for seeds for so long that I'm reluctant to add my name to the list. Furthermore, I turn 60 in a few months and I'd like to be able to try my cochinita pibil before the age pension. Still, better then than never, I guess. If anyone can help that would be great. Meanwhile, I'm going to try a smooth-skinned which hopefully will be closer to the real thing than my weird variously citric/vinegar combo.

lancegantman at yahoo dot com.au

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larissa says...
Hi Julie et al,
I would dearly love a few rough skinned seville seeds or a seedling - I'm in Melbourne and am happy to pay for them - is anyone able to help out?
thanks
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Time: 4th August 2012 4:36pm

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Julie says...
lamboinoz, I wonder what they mean by 'certified'? I could send them a fruit and some foliage if this helped to identify it. Can you let me know their email address?

A man who read this forum visited me last summer and took some cuttings - I must contact him to see how they went.

My last two remaining seedlings are now around 75cm, and putting on new growth, so they are relatively quick growing. I planted my tree when I was around 60, so don't give up. I'm still planting trees at 75!

larissa, hopefully, I will have seeds in a few weeks, so watch the forum - I'll start a new thread.



Time: 4th August 2012 8:29pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Certified means that many Citrus growers prefer to get their propagation material from one of the Citrus propagation schemes.

Time: 5th August 2012 6:40am

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Ilijas says...
Slightly off-topic, but I've been looking high and low in Melbourne to find the Rough Seville fruits, and no one seems to even know what they are.

The only thing I've found is a grocer in Dandenong Plaza that has the smooth Seville fruits every year. I have to admit that they do make a nice marmalade, but it's not anywhere near the depth of flavour that the real Seville has.

Anyone had any luck finding any rough Seville fruits from a grocer or farm?

Time: 7th August 2012 6:10pm

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Julie says...
Someone from the Perth area asked me if they could have some fruit for marmalade, but I have lost all my emails addies. Think the name was Michael (?)

Fruit seems to be ripe now. Can't send seeds just yet - no time. I'll do a separate thread when I can.

Time: 8th August 2012 7:48pm

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Prue says...
Hi Julie, Just wondering if your tree is fruiting and if you are still happy to post seeds? If so I would very much appreciate some and am happy to cover your costs.
Prue

Time: 27th August 2012 8:10pm

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Julie says...
Prue, I have a really long list of people wanting seeds, and it seems unlikely I will have enough for everyone.

I will add your name, but don't hold your breath!

Time: 27th August 2012 8:49pm

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Virginia says...
Hi Julie
Virginia here I have also been hopeful of a seed sometome of your sevile orange but am happy to wait.was on your list. am in geraldton so thanks for keeping us all up to date and I'll keep hoping vrice at westnet dot com dotau


Time: 30th August 2012 7:15pm

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Julie says...
Virginia, I lost all my email addresses, including yours.

I picked up two small oranges that had fallen off today, and got about nine seeds, so things are looking up.

Time: 30th August 2012 8:23pm

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Prue says...
Hi Julie, It's OK if you can't manage I can see by how long this topic has gone that you would be overwhelmed with requests. I am only experimenting with trying to grow citrus from seed so will just try growing some store bought fruit.
Thanks.



Time: 1st September 2012 8:24am

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Prue says...
Hi Virginia
Not sure if your aware of it but there is a little nursery on Pass street just up and to the right of the the Aquarena. It has some fruit trees (not many) that I have not seen in Bunnnings.
Cheers Prue.

Time: 1st September 2012 8:30am

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Phil says...
Hi Julie,

I have 8 citrus trees in the ground, and one very lonely hole full of manure, vacant for months as I searched for a rough Seville.

I wonder if you would be kind enough to add my name to that long list?

I'm happy to compensate you or assist in any way.

This is my favourite marmalade recipe. Lots of work, but well worth the effort:

http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/seville_orange_marmalade/

Cheers.

Time: 1st September 2012 10:27am

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MaryT says...
I still have two seedlings of the Julie Tree; they are both doing well so I think I can let one go now. If you're interested let me know.

Time: 1st September 2012 5:25pm

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Mike says...
Mary you have been a bit quiet lately, is everything going ok? I will have some seeds of small fruit trees soon that may be of interest as they can be grown in pots.

Time: 1st September 2012 6:04pm

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Julie says...
OK Phil - done. I need your address.

Hope I get enough seeds for everyone - so far I'm rationing individals to six seeds. Not being mean, but I would rather send a few to a lot of people than a lot to a few.

They germinated so well last time you should at least get four or five trees, which ought to keep everyone happy!

Phil, you're not wrong, that is a very time-consuming, complicated recipe. I use lots more water, and just soak the seeds overnight, cooking them in a little bag with the rest, then removing the bag. I thought people liked the slight bitterness - isn't that what makes Seville a bit different?



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7209 says...
thnx Prue thats Mr Gannons isn't it ?
I have been there a few times he's very nice
and the plants I purchased have grown well. I will have a look for the orange tree in hope they are Sevilles.

Time: 1st September 2012 7:31pm

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7209 says...
well I cant seem to use my name Virginia on the blog
any more so am using the number 7209 that's really me Virginia and thankyou to you Julie will wait my turn for a seed.
40 years ago a friend of mums made seville orange marmalade from a tree in Hamilton street Lanecove NSW.I would think that tree is long gone! cheers all v

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MaryT says...
No takers for the seedling? OK I'll give it to my neighbour. Mike, I'm OK thanks but very tired from trip. The garden also needed lots of rescue remedy when I came home but still suffered some loss. :( I am philosophical. I mean to ask you if your guavas are big trees. My yellow cherry guava did well last season so now I'm ambitious for a 'real' guava that will grow in a pot. Sorry for the hi jack, guys.

Time: 1st September 2012 8:52pm

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John Mc says...
Hi Mary, I've been looking for a rough Seville if it's not too late? I can buy a Seville from my local nursery with three mature fruit attached but the skin is smooth, not rough. Why is there two types of Seville oranges? I'll have to bring myself up tp speed and read the thread.
Did the Chinese liquorice seeds germinate?

Time: 1st September 2012 9:06pm

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Mike says...
Mary I glad things are ok and it is hard to leave a garden that takes nurturing and have all go well.I prune my guavas to 2m and they produce alot.Tropical guavas could easily be kept in a big pot.
the birds are singing in the sky and the flowers are bustin' out everywhere.It must be springtime.

Time: 1st September 2012 9:10pm

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MaryT says...
John Mc the tree is yours. It's one of the original Julie Tree off springs and it's almost 21 months old. It's not as big as it should be because every time I go away it gets attacked by something but it recovers. I'm sure it will breathe a sigh of relieve to be planted in your holiday resort of a garden. No I have no luck with Chinese liquorice or you would have heard me bragging about it, to be sure :) I must confess I lost sight of the envelope for a while and didn't plant them straight away.

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MaryT says...
Thanks Mike, I will give it a go. Yes, it's spring :) though you wouldn't know it if you were in Sydney yesterday. We had the coldest September day in 17 years I think. Brr

Time: 2nd September 2012 8:23am

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MaryT says...
John Mc I will send you the Seville Orange seedling next week as I have a gig on this weekend and busy with that. Also the three Dragons you sent are still alive but look no different from the day they arrived. I hope they'll sprout something soon. :) Is there anything I can do to give them a boost?



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Julie says...
Wow Mary. you are brave. But which one is you?

Time: 3rd September 2012 7:35pm

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John Mc says...
MaryT, I have a couple of small chinese liquorice plants that are dormant ATM. If and when they recover, you can have one, we'll know fairly soon.
EDIT: While your Dragonfruit plants are still small and it won't affect fruit production, they will respond to any kind of chicken manure, pile it on. Mine went beserk last year and had to cut them back by half, got very little fruit though.


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MaryT says...
Thanks, John Mc; I'll feed the dragons. Julie, I'm not that brave; that was just for the Friends of the Julie Tree. We'll keep it a secret :)

Time: 3rd September 2012 10:06pm

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7209 says...
Virginia here again Prue have been to Pass st just now and he does have lovely citrus nut no Seville and doesent get them he said . Maybe I will have a look at cumquats . Anyway thanx for the idea. V


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Julie says...
Phil, are you going to take up Mary's offer? Do you still want seeds?

Time: 4th September 2012 8:57pm

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MaryT says...
Julie, my seedling is going to John Mc; I did not hear from Phil.

Time: 4th September 2012 10:50pm

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7209 says...
Virginia again cumquats just are different
so hopeful for a seed please sometime Julie cheers

Time: 5th September 2012 7:11pm

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Julie says...
7209/Virginia, I don't have your address. May have had it once, but lost it.

Phil also - I can send seeds soon if I have it.

Time: 6th September 2012 8:45pm

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Jantina says...
Julie the seeds you kindly sent me arrived in the middle of our satellite event but are safely planted and sitting on my kitchen window ledge where I can't forget them and let them dry out. Thank you very much.

Time: 7th September 2012 10:59am

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Xiem says...
Orchards of rough sevilles have now spread around the country from the Julie tree and I have been fortunate to receive some seeds and grow (and further scatter) seedlings thanks to Julie's kindness. But I don't think I have ever read about the history of the Julie tree - did you perchance once pocket a few seeds during a trip to Spain, Julie? Are we harbouring a family of illegal immigrants??

Time: 7th September 2012 12:57pm

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Julie says...
Thank you for your kind words Xiem. No, I just bought it from a small, independent nursery that has long since gone. All quite legal!

Still surprised at the number of people who want Seville - thought it had gone out of favour. Obviously not.

Time: 7th September 2012 1:44pm

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PhilC says...
Hi Julie,

I have been on the road collecting used farm machinery, and just got back to see all that transpired above.

I would be delighted to get some seeds. Thank you.

My email address is phil dot chadwick at internode dot on dot net.

Cheers.


Time: 7th September 2012 3:34pm

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MaryT says...
Hey John Mc did you feel the earth quake today? Your Julie seedling is on the road to you, please look out for it. I didn't quite know how to pack it so hope it will arrive OK.

Time: 10th September 2012 6:09pm

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John Mc says...
Wow, thank you Mary, is there anything I can send you in return? If the Chinese liquorice come out of hibernation I'll send you a plant.

Time: 10th September 2012 9:02pm

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MaryT says...
It's only a small plant, John so don't get too excited :)

Time: 10th September 2012 9:31pm

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John Mc says...
But it's a Julie Seville, that's what makes it exciting.
All my sources have only turned up smooth skinned Seville's.

Time: 10th September 2012 9:44pm

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Irene2 says...
Hi Julie,
Did I hear something about SEEDS? And then losing all your email addresses!
Does this mean you need all our details again?
Just wanted to catch up on the status of the seed distribution and make sure I was still on the list. I hopped on the list back at #64 - was it only a year ago? Seems like it was a LOT longer. Waiting for oranges to fruit is like that I guess. Anxious to start a branch of Julies Rough Seville in Tasmania. My year-old Smooth Seville seedlings are doing very well in the polytunnel and have survived the winter. So I think I have a suitable environment. Marmalade making this weekend - I'm eager to take a look at some of the recipes posted here.

Time: 11th September 2012 8:58am

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7209 says...
virginia 7209 hi jilie this is me
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Time: 11th September 2012 5:56pm

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John Mc says...
Mary, it arrived in fantastic condition, well done, thank you so much.
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Time: 11th September 2012 8:44pm

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MaryT says...
WOW John Mc! I only sent it yesterday afternoon just before they closed (but I have friends at the post office haha)!

Time: 11th September 2012 8:51pm

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Julie says...
Irene2, yes, some work done on the computer lost all my emails and address book. I may still get them back, if I can find someone who knows how to do it! Any geeks on this forum?

Let me know your address, and I can send some seeds. Email me:julwood at iprimus dot com dot au

Virginia, yours will be on their way this week.

Time: 11th September 2012 9:08pm

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Brendan says...
Hi Julie, I'm not a pc geek, but to add email addresses to your address book, when you receive an email:
Put the cursor on their address, right click it, click on 'properties', click on 'Add to Address Book'. That's it.
Hope that helps :-)

Time: 12th September 2012 7:44am

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Julie says...
Brendan, no problem with adding new addresses, just can't find the old ones.

Time: 12th September 2012 7:36pm

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PhilC says...
Hi Julie,

The seeds arrived in the post today.

They are already in a seed raising kit, on a heat mat, under a light. Looking forward to germination...

I have put a book of stamps into an envelope for you and will post next time I go to town, probably early next week.

Many thanks and cheers.

Time: 18th September 2012 4:49pm

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Julie says...
Good luck with them Phil. You have given them perfect conditions, so they ought to germinate pretty fast. I sowed mine in November, when the weather was hot, and they took 3 1/2 weeks.

Time: 18th September 2012 8:06pm

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Julie says...
Irene and Pru, you said you wanted seeds, but never gave me your addresses.

You may have missed my email addy further up: julwood at iprimus dot com dot au

They are getting really ripe now, but as I didn't decide to try myself till November (2010), they should be OK.

Time: 19th September 2012 8:49pm

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Jantina says...
Hey Julie, my first baby is up . Ta da! very happy, thank you.

Time: 24th September 2012 9:30am

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Julie says...
That was fast!

Time: 24th September 2012 11:57pm

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Jantina says...
Really? It's in very good compost and the pot is on my kitchen window sill. I was careful not to let the seed dry out before or after planting and of course you sent it beautifully packed so it could not dry out in transit.

Time: 25th September 2012 7:43am

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Brendan says...
Hi Julie, guess what? Got 8 out of 8 of your seeds up! Thank You! :-)

Time: 1st October 2012 7:37am

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Julie says...
That's good news Brendan!

Time: 1st October 2012 6:33pm

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lamboinoz says...
Julie, I just got your seeds. I'm off to put them up now. I'm ridiculously excited by this. Thank you so much. Fingers crossed.

Time: 7th October 2012 7:42pm

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Julie says...
Gosh, that took a while! Don't remember where you live, but that was pretty slow.

Time: 7th October 2012 9:13pm

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Jantina says...
Have six seeds up now and two of them have multiple stems (one has two stems and one has three) anyone else get multiple tems? They look very healthy.

Time: 8th October 2012 12:18pm

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Julie says...
Nope, only single stems. Will you keep them Jantina? Just to see what they will do?

Time: 8th October 2012 9:17pm

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Jantina says...
Yes, I have plenty of room and like to experiment.

Time: 8th October 2012 9:59pm

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Irene2 says...
I sent an email separately but here's my address again just in case:
Irene Landau
PO Box 366
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Thanks so much!


Time: 10th October 2012 4:32pm

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Xiem says...
The first one is up Julie. It has only taken a couple of weeks. Thanks again for the seeds.

Time: 10th October 2012 6:24pm

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VF says...
Hi Julie, my first one popped up today - shouldn't be long before the rest do too. Thanks for your generosity.
BTW, have the berry seeds arrived yet? Hopefully quarantine didn't confiscate them, but they were commercially treated and packed from the UK so I thought they'd be ok.

Time: 11th October 2012 9:15pm

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Julie says...
Yep, arrived yesterday, thank you. They will be going in very soon!

Quarantine are much easier going on commercial seeds.

Time: 11th October 2012 9:35pm

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lamboinoz says...
Yes, I'm afraid they might have sat in the mailbox for a week - I was away. They smelled a little musty but looked ok, didn't float and I'll just hope for even a small percentage of germination. Nothing so far but still hoping.

Time: 16th October 2012 12:28pm

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Julie says...
lamboinoz, I still have some if you want more. Sent off to two more people on Sunday, plenty of time to get them going before the really hot weather.

Time: 16th October 2012 9:11pm

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PhilC says...
Hi Julie,

I got one seedling up at 24 days, but nothing more (at 30 days now).

I have one good plant, but if you have spare seeds, I would appreciate a few more. Thanks.

Time: 18th October 2012 4:00pm

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Julie says...
OK Phil. But they may still come up - mine took about 3 1/2 weeks in November (2010), which is fairly warm here.

lamboinoz, email me: julwood at iprimus dot com dot au and let me know your address.

Time: 18th October 2012 9:15pm

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PhilC says...
Hi Julie,

Got the new seeds today. Many thanks..

This time I split them with some in the seed raising kit on a heat mat and under lights in seed raising mix, and some in open trays on the verandah in potting mix.

Have marked November 17 as germination day...

Cheers.


Time: 24th October 2012 6:06pm

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lamboinoz says...
Of the 10 seeds that received some unfortunate neglect before planting, the first seedling showed up at exactly 3 1/2 weeks, another 3 over the following 3 days, another a day later and I was happy at 50% germination, given the circumstances. Then yesterday at more than 4 1/2 weeks another showed up. Surely that's it... Anyone had seelings appear after more than a 5 week wait?

Time: 10th November 2012 11:48am

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Julie says...
Still waiting - it's been 3 weeks and 5 days now. 3 1/2 weeks last time (2010).

Time: 10th November 2012 9:41pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
All mine are up and running so thanks again Julie.

Time: 10th November 2012 10:53pm

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VF says...
Most of my seeds are up - started at 4 weeks, now at nearly 10 weeks still a couple of stragglers. Thought the seeds might have perished so had a scratch around today - found some very small roots emerging from both seeds. So don't give up yet lamboinoz!

Time: 14th November 2012 9:37pm

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lamboinoz says...
Thanks VF. I've now got 8 seedlings up and like you I scratched around a couple of days ago also finding the last seeds with emerging roots. Julie is a packer par excellence.

Janita, I got 3 single stems, 1 triple and 4 doubles. Here's something from another blog:

"They should be separated. Your most dominant seedling is most likely the clone seedling (the variety you're trying to propagate), and the less vigorous seedlings are usually the embryonic seedling(s) (those developing from the fertilization of the seed, thus being some unknown hybrid). Most citrus are polyembryonic, so you can get both clonal seedlings that will true to type, as they are an exact clone of the mother plant, as well as zygotic seedlings (those created by some other citrus pollen fertilizing the zygote). The Seville orange I believe is polyembroyonic and should have a clonal seedling (the bigger one) that is a clone of the mother tree. So, separate your seedlings and then mark them as the clone or the hybrid from each tree seed. You will see what your get as far as fruit goes in about 7 to 10 years, when they bear fruit. They might bear sooner, but usually seedlings will take much longer to bear fruit than their grafted counterparts."

Time: 21st November 2012 6:38pm

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Jantina says...
Thanks for that info lamboinoz, I ended up with 4 singles, 1 double, 1 triple and 1 quadruple, very interesting. Been gardening for 60 years and still learn something every day, either that or the early stuff has all leached out of brain and left more vacant space to fill! hahaha

Time: 22nd November 2012 9:41am

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diana says...
My 30+ year old Seville tree has been incredibly prolific for years: 120 oranges this season (and it's a compact, small tree). A month ago I noticed the leaves had dropped off one branch. I'be been away since then and got home to find the entire tree bare and - presumably - dead.
Any ideas about what might have happened? I've done nothing unusual to or for it that I can think of.

Time: 22nd November 2012 11:55pm

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MaryT says...
diana that is the saddest story and if I'd know your tree was in Sydney I would have visited you before its demise. Hope you've saved seeds and have seedlings.

I have no idea why it should die suddenly but perhaps the brain trust on this forum can explain. Then again, it may not be dead.

Time: 23rd November 2012 8:17am

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Xiem says...
Sad. Borers or root rot maybe. The last bumper crop may have been its swan song.

Time: 23rd November 2012 11:05am

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Brain says...
My sympathies. My lemon tree went the same way. It was growth from seeds and my late grandfather selected this particular one from many seedlings and planted it. After a few years, it started to fruit prolifically. Then it was attacked by stink bugs and whilst I'm trying to keep that under control, it started to lose leaves, and then the whole tree lost all its leaves and died.

I think the stink bugs weakened the tree and some soil borne diseases finished it off. By any chance, is your tree on clay soil? I'm inclined to say root rot as well as there are no other signs of why the tree suddenly lost all its leaves. Also, proceeding the final death, there was a lot of rain in Brisbane that year.

If there are any fruits, I'd save them and replant the seeds or see if you can find any nodes/buds where you can transplant it onto another citrus.

Time: 23rd November 2012 10:19pm

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Julie says...
Brain, what you describe may have happened the other way round. Plants under stress get attacked by bugs, more so than healthy plants.

So it may have already had problems before the stink bugs weakened it further.

Time: 24th November 2012 8:50pm

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Brain says...
Julie, you are quite right in that stressed plants are prone to more bugs attack. It is sometimes hard to tell though, very chicken and egg type question. LOL.

Time: 26th November 2012 11:08pm

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VF says...
Interesting lamboinoz and Jantina - your seeds seem to be showing more of the polyembronic features than mine (only 2x doubles). I wonder if climate plays a part when germinating, as to how many seedlings pop up, or is it something else?

Time: 27th November 2012 10:46am

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Jantina says...
Don't know VF, mine were germinated in a black pot on a sunny window ledge in my kitchen. The true leaves have that waist on them that kaffir leaves have, I'm assuming everyone else's has those leaves too.

Time: 27th November 2012 4:21pm

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VF says...
Jantina, I germinated mine outside in a warm sheltered position in little tubes - they would have had more uneven temp's than yours, so that may be the difference. Most of mine are still in juvenile stage, but those that are more advanced are like what you're describing.

Time: 28th November 2012 6:34am

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Irene2 says...
Still waiting on Julie's seeds to germinate?
Have patience.
Mine are emerging at 40 days - indoors near a window but not especially warm, and it IS Tassie.
Biggest is just 2cm and at least 4 others showing.
Just need hubbie to keep them alive while I take a trip to Melb!
Very pleased with progress.

Time: 29th November 2012 12:58am

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denise1 says...
Some citrus are polyembryonic and parthenocarpic so come true from seeds. I dont know about the sevilles. I have found that some citrus grow very easily from cuttings.Wether they will do well with their own roots will be another matter.

Time: 29th November 2012 4:36am

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Jantina says...
Denise I'd like to have your mind as a reference book ! Perhaps you would consider writing one, I'd certainly buy it.

Time: 29th November 2012 6:07pm

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denise1 says...
Thanks Jantina, I will keep that in mind for when the time is ready.

Time: 29th November 2012 9:27pm

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Dawn says...
So what happens next?? How are all the Julie Seville trees?
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MaryT says...
Dawn my two year old "Julie" is alive and well. She's in a pot. Still hoping to see her fruit one day :)
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Time: 9th January 2013 5:40am

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John Mc says...
Looking good MaryT.
Your Julie/MaryT Seville that you sent me is doing great.
I've removed the lower branches for tree shaping purposes and am propagating the cuttings.


Time: 9th January 2013 7:27am

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MaryT says...
Waste not, want not, John Mc? :) I did that with my fig and now I have them everywhere. Julie's tree must be the mother of hundreds of trees all over Australia.

Time: 9th January 2013 1:55pm

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Tracy says...
I have just found this forum after looking for information about growing seville oranges in NSW. I was lucky enought to find a tree in Bunnings of all places about six months ago, but then reading that there are different varieties, had to check what I had as want it for marmalade making. It is citrus sinensis and described as having a thick dimpled skin and prized for making marmalade, do hopefully I have the right one. Not being a very good gardener, I didn't read the label, was just so delighted to find the tree so was unaware that I have planted a tree that will grow to 8 meters in the chooks pen in a very small garden ! It is also planted in clay soil, which is all I have unfortunately. It seems to be doing really well, has nearly doubled in size and is now covered in fragrant flowers. Should it have flowered earlier? Would like to hear from anyone living nearby how their trees are going. If I had found this forum earlier, would have loved to carry on the Julie tree, but I think one is more than enough for my little back yard!

Time: 9th January 2013 3:05pm

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Xiem says...
I think you have a sweet orange Tracy, whereas a lot of marmalade aficionados go for the bitter orange citrus aurantium. All depends on what you want. You could probably obtain some bitterness by using lemons with your oranges when you get around to making marmalade.


http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/souroranges.html#sevillano

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Julie says...
My Seville has never reached that height Tracy. It has stayed at around 2.5 metres, never been pruned.

I'm not in NSW, so could be different climate, but my orange flowered in spring, and now has small fruit.

Time: 9th January 2013 8:38pm

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Brain says...
If your label reads Seville, chances are, you are most likely to have the Australian Smooth Flat Seville version, as no one on the East coast sells the real deal - which is the Spanish Rough Skinned Seville. Which is also why we are very grateful for Julie's seeds as it is the currently the known source that is available to us folks on the 'retail' level. Though OLEA does have it listed as wholesale in WA.

I am also inclined to believe the label reading Citrus Sinensis is another error on the label. As for the description, as most people are not aware there are 2 types of Seville in existance in Australia, they would have simple 'googled' Seville orange and lifted the common phrase "thick dimpled skin and prized for making marmalade" - which is the standard description for Spanish Seville.

I think the best way to tell is to have a fruit at maturity and then you'd know for sure (from taste and texture). As it is flowering, so keep up the good work and I hope you get some fruit this year. It is hard to say whether it should flower now as this is dependant on a host range of factors like variety, climate, tree health etc.

Citrus generally does not like wet feet - in fact it can kill them (i.e. due to root rot), so clay is not prefered but some rootstock is more tolerant to clay. you really just have to monitor moisture levels and try not to overwater.

I would not be concerned about the 8m in height, as that's probably the maximum height but you can always prune it to a more desirable height.

I think if you google enough, there are plenty of people using all sorts of citrus to make marmalade, so I wouldn't be discouraged on whether you have the real Seville or not.

Time: 10th January 2013 11:55am

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Tracy2 says...
Thankyou for your replys and interesting information.
I think I will have to wait and see if I get some fruit this year and keep my fingers crossed it is a bitter Seville, although it sounds unlikely! Being from the UK, Ido love my bitter marmalade. We have a green grocer that does get bitter Seville oranges in, and I eagerly await their arrival. This year I made 48 jars so hopefully they will last 12 months! Unfortunately, a big supermarket has opened up right near to him and I know business isn't going too well so Im not sure about getting them in the future. I may be chasing up a Julie tree after all!
Tracy


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Xiem says...
Yes you can buy the seville fruit at some smaller greengrocers Tracy, around August I think. They are the commercial smooth skinned variety but they make good bitter marmalade.

Time: 15th January 2013 6:29pm

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Brain says...
Also I would suggest if and when you get your next batch of rough seville oranges, save plenty of seeds and grow them or do a seed swap with fellow members. They may not be "Julie" tree but some genetic diversity may not be a bad thing. If you'd like, we will call the future seedlings "Tracy" tree. LOL.

Also, if you wouldn't mind asking the grocer where he gets his stock from, i.e. the farm. Would be good to know where those trees are from and potentially get some mature budwood, which Daley Fruit might even consider propagating and selling to us.

Time: 15th January 2013 6:54pm

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John Mc says...
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"Jantina says...
The true leaves have that waist on them that kaffir leaves have, I'm assuming everyone else's has those leaves too."

Yes, mine does Jantina.
Are you back home for a little while now?



Time: 16th January 2013 5:16am

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MaryT says...
A lot of citrus have the 'waist' on their leaves. In the photo the leaf in the front is the Julie Seville, the one at the back the smooth skinned "Seville".
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Time: 16th January 2013 8:03am

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Jantina says...
Hi John, yes I'm home for a while.

Time: 16th January 2013 11:27am

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Carol Pitlock says...
Julie, I'm outside Houston Texas. I think I have Seville Oranges on my tree that was labeled as a Navel Orange. Is it possible that the Seville was used as root stock and the graft didn't take? There are about 50 seeds in each orange and the fruit is sour no matter when I pick it. The fruit lasts on the tree for months. I pick them as I need them.
Anyhow, I'd love your recipe for Orange Marmalade... I don't like what I'm finding on the cooking Web sites.
Thank you. Carol

Time: 25th January 2013 6:11am

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Julie says...
Carol, can you post a photo? It sounds very much like Seville.

I'll have a look for the recipe tomorrow.

Time: 25th January 2013 9:35pm

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Rudy says...
Hi guys,

I too found this forum through a google search!

Just returned from my honeymoon in Seville where I fell in love with the tree. I live in the northern suburbs of WA, is there any chance I could get a couple of seeds/seedlings from one of you?

My wife and I are trying to recreate an Andalusian patio at home, and it won't be complete without the gorgeous Seville orange tree!

Time: 7th February 2013 4:20pm

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Julie says...
Too late for seeds now Rudy, but I should have more around August/September. Email me then: julwood at iprimus dot com dot au.

Time: 7th February 2013 8:29pm

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Rudy says...
Thank you so much Julie, I will do that. Looks like that tree of yours is spreading its children far and wide!

Time: 8th February 2013 1:44am

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Donald88 says...
I too was lead here in a frustrated desire to buy or better grow my own fruit. Julie may I beg for a few seeds too. You are very generous in this venture.

Time: 14th April 2013 7:52am

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Julie says...
I have replied to Donald's email.

Someone called Wendy Day sent an email with the same request. It was NOT a proper email address - just a series of numbers - so no answer. Maybe you are checking the forum Wendy? Try again with a correct address.

Time: 14th April 2013 8:39pm

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Anthony says...
Hi Julie. I read in a post above that you may have some seville seeds available in August or September. If you end up with any spare seeds I would love to grow a few of your plants. Thanks, Anthony.

Time: 16th June 2013 2:02pm

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Julie says...
Anthony, can you email me closer to the time?

julwood at iprimus dot com dot au

Time: 16th June 2013 7:31pm

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Anthony says...
Will do Julie. Thanks for that.

Time: 18th June 2013 8:07pm

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JoanC says...
Hi, Julie. I came across this site while trying to find Seville oranges for making marmalade. I was told that the markets only have them for a short time in Autumn. I would love to be put on your list for any future seeds or seedlings. How long before they reach fruiting age?

Time: 6th July 2013 12:08pm

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Julie says...
I don't really know how long they take Joan, as I bought a fairly established tree originally. 5-7 years maybe?

See answer to Anthony above re email.

Time: 6th July 2013 8:11pm

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JoanC says...
Thanks, Julie, I have set all my reminders.

Time: 13th July 2013 10:04am

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John Mc says...
I was wondering if I took a young bud from my very young Julie Seville tree (donation thanks to Mary T) and T budded it onto a more mature rootstock, would it be of any benefit/get fruit any sooner?

Time: 14th July 2013 7:23pm

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Brain says...
My understanding is no.

I did some reading on citrus seeds to fruiting. And apprently, there is a thing called 'node count' and it is an indicator of maturity. The paper suggested that until the plant reached certain node count (or time), it won't flower and fruit.

However, being grafted on a established tree would mean it might probably grow faster, hence reaching the node count a bit quicker.

Time: 15th July 2013 11:04am

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John Mc says...
Thank you Brain for your well researched and informative answer.
For the exercise, I might graft a couple of buds when the time comes and see who wins, the seedling or the budded, more mature rootstock.

Time: 15th July 2013 8:09pm

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arifainchtein says...
Hello,

I am about to harvest my first crop of what I am pretty certain is a seville orange tree I bought three years ago. I think I have about 12 oranges. I would be happy to send pictures of the tree and the fruit to confirm.

After reading this forum I realise how hard is to find some and how is possible to replicate from seed, so I will try to do that. I am happy to share some if anybody is interested.

Time: 10th August 2013 7:30pm

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JakfruitEttiquette says...
Arifainchtein, Seville could be ID'd from photo of leaves, fruit, cut fruit( in 1/2 for juicing ) seed shape and size.
Some types will have bergamot scented leaves, and large leaf petiole.

Time: 11th August 2013 9:56am

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Brain says...
Just be aware there are 2 types of seville orange in Australia. A rough skinned version and a smooth flat bottom version.

Time: 12th August 2013 11:34am

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arifainchtein says...
Hello,
Here are some photos of the different parts. After tasting the juice, I am pretty sure is Seville, but I am looking forward to your comments.

I will be harvesting the few fruits to make jam, so I am happy to save the seed and germinate some if anybody is interested.

thanks
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Time: 22nd August 2013 4:33pm

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Julie says...
They certainly look the same as my rough Seville.

Time: 22nd August 2013 7:49pm

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Jason says...
Those pics look the same as my Seville and I thought I had the common smooth one?? I can't even remember where I got the tree but it wasn't anywhere special. Like maybe Safeway...

Time: 22nd August 2013 10:04pm

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Jason says...
When you guys where talking "rough" I thought you meant ROUGH like these http://en.paperblog.com/in-season-seville-oranges-on-monsaborcom-402660/

But my Seville is certainly much rougher than a typical orange

Time: 22nd August 2013 10:07pm

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JakfruitEttiquette says...
I'd say arif's pics show a smooth seville, young plant with smaller fruit. The blog pics of rough seville are good, but often leaves have a big petiole, wheras smooth has thin petiole.

Time: 23rd August 2013 6:47am

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Brain says...
I recall reading the Australian smooth seville is Seville x sweet orange, so both are quite similar in appearance.

below are links to some pictures of both and you will have to make your own judgement.

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/seville.html

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/smooth_flat_seville.html

I think the oblong flat bottom is the only give away.

Time: 23rd August 2013 11:08am

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Jason says...
Mine is almost certainly this one http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/smooth_flat_seville.html

You could argue for it being rough or smooth but it's definitely a flat shaped fruit

Time: 23rd August 2013 2:18pm

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Brain says...
Well, you could still make good marmalaide out of it. :)

Time: 23rd August 2013 2:46pm

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Anthony says...
Hi Julie. I am pleased to tell you that out of the 9 orange seeds that arrived, I now have 9 very healthy seville orange seedlings. They are growing well and are now around 5cm tall. Many thanks for the obviously great quality seeds. Anthony.

Time: 19th December 2013 9:48pm

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Julie says...
You're welcome Anthony. Glad they did so well for you.

It always surprises me that they seem to germinate so easily, yet I have never seen a seedling under the tree!

Time: 20th December 2013 8:29pm

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PhilC says...
Hi,

I have three of Julie's Seville seed progeny to give away. They are all in 16 cm pots and range from 120 mm to 140 mm high, green and healthy. They have been on the edge of the verandah, facing north, to harden off for several months.

I don't want to post them, as the probability of damage would be very high.

I live near Bega and go to Canberra often. If you want one and can collect in that region, please email me directly: phil DOT chadwick AT internode DOT on DOT net.

Time: 3rd January 2014 8:20am

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AliK says...
Hi Orange lovers,

I'm new to Australia and have been looking for a specific type of orange which has the characteristics of Seville Orange. I

Time: 4th March 2014 7:44pm

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