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Is this luo han guo or monk fruit from china?

Siraitia grosvenorii (luo han guo or monk fruit)

It's a nice sweet fruit, dried i guess, not sure, with a pit inside.

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Time: 16th September 2016 2:28pm

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Linton says...
How many seeds does it have inside? Siraitia grosvenorii has many seeds. If there is only one seed it is not Siraitia grosvenorii and more likely prunus species.

Cheers!

Time: 19th September 2016 10:53am

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Bangkok says...
It had only 1 seed inside, finally my chinese contact who gave this giftpack said it was some prunus...

He even knew the latin name (that's impossible for a Thai) and it's considered a quality-snack in China (not cheap at all). It's very nice and i ordered more.

Time: 20th September 2016 1:05pm

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denise1 says...
It is not monk fruit, which is sold dried with a spherical smooth round thin shell, somewhat hollow and a number of small seeds with pulp.

Time: 21st September 2016 7:11am

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Markmelb says...
They are preserved Plums BK - looks like those are the sweet ones but if you can find the sour ones with a powder on them they are like sour straps and make you pucker. Preserved Hawthorn berrys are sweet and very tasty too - even preserved Bayberrys as well.
We have lots of Chinese supermarkets nearby - with lots of interesting stuff.

Was amazed in Singapore how they liked their Beef Jerky type flat square sheets - shops everywhere at $40kg

Time: 21st September 2016 8:29am

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Linton says...
Attention Bangkok......

Monk Fruits popping up now! The Monk Fruit seeds are all starting to germinate so I don't need you to look for them in the chinese shop any more.

Siraitia grosvenorii (luo han guo) may arguably produce the sweetest fruit in the world but now comes the fun part since I don't have a clue about how to grow them. Guess I'll just have to learn it. Cheers!
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Time: 19th December 2016 1:28pm

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Bangkok says...
Looks good Linton!

What i see here when i buy tree's they grow them in charred rice or coconuthusk and water every day i guess.

If you want to be safe than that's an option i guess.

Mark i also tried that squared expensive meat but it's nothing special. Tastes like sweet smoked meat, i expected special herbs or so but it's very simple.

I had all kinds of dried plums now, got more giftbags and ordered a whole box of them which will arrive soon.
Perfect candy.


Time: 21st December 2016 2:07am

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Linton says...
The Monk seedlings are steadily getting bigger and bigger. We don't have charred rice or coconut husk available here, only coco peat which is highly acidic so I don't know if the plants would like that or not. I could always make my own charred rice I guess, but rice is very expensive here so it would not be economically viable.

Anyway they seem to be doing fine growing in the gravelly sand they are in. I did read that they prefer to be in shade so probably growing on or under a pergola would be best but I don't have that kind of structure. Also read that they can be easily cultivated in pots so that sounds like a good option.

To be continued........

Time: 29th December 2016 9:54am

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Bangkok says...
Linton it's charred rice-HUSKS, but i guess you guys don't have them.

You can use anything charred to replace it i guess, it just drains very well and doesn't decompose fast.

You can make a cheap pergola from plastic electrical pipes or so. And if they have to be green you put tape around them.

I found green waterpipe in the hardware shop here, will build some net-tents with those against fruitfly and birds.







Time: 30th December 2016 12:41pm

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Linton says...
The Monk Fruit vines have come through Winter and now into their second year. How long do you think before they make fruit? Thanks.
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Time: 20th December 2017 3:29pm

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Pek says...
Hi Linden,
i want to grow the monk fruut as well. Where you bought the seeds or plant ?

Time: 16th January 2018 11:12pm

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Linton says...
I got the seeds from a supplier in the U.S. Can't remember their name now as it was a couple of years ago but their are plenty of online sellers on the net. Just do a google search for Monk Fruit Seeds or Siraitia grosvenorii and you will find them.They are approved for import but it is not so easy to get them in now due to the new customs regulations for packaging. Best you read the new packaging rules to make sure that they will comply.

All the seeds I got sprouted, but you need to follow a special method for them to germinate successfully. Cheers!

Time: 18th January 2018 10:23am

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Linton says...
Dear Pek

Now I wanna give you the scoop about the Monk Fruit seeds. A good place I got some of the Monk seeds from was Strictly Medicinal Seeds in America. They describe the method to germinate them on their website which I followed and had almost 100 percent germination.

First you need to soak the seeds for 3 or 4 days until they swell. Then sow them in sand or a sandy mix like cactus mix. Don't water them again unless they start to dry out completely as they have already absorbed the maximum amount of water. If you keep watering them they won't germinate.

So I can vouch that the seeds from this supplier are viable and most importantly that they use commercial seed packets which should satisfy the current entry requirements for packaging.

You can read more information and buy the seeds on the site:

https://strictlymedicinalseeds.com/product/arhat-fruit-momordica-grosvenori-packet-of-7-seeds/


Time: 18th January 2018 8:22pm

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Linton says...
Need to know alternate method for propagating Monk Fruits.

The Monk Fruit plants have been getting larger and stronger since they were first planted a few years ago and the above ground tubers are getting bigger each year as well, so I would like to use these existing plants to generate more. Now I am trying to ascertain if there are other procedures to propagate them besides the most obvious way being from seeds.

Do you think that they could be started by splitting some of the tuber or is the best option to just try them from cuttings as can be done with other species in the cucurbit family? Does anyone have experience in growing any types of cucurbits from cuttings and would it be unwise to do them now since they are about to head into dormancy? There seems to be little information available regarding propagating Monk Fruits specifically other than by seeds, so I would be happy to receive any suggestions. Thank you.

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Time: 22nd April 2019 1:44pm

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ly0009 says...
Hi Linton

Did you manage to get fruits from your Monk Fruit vines?, or find how to propagate the cuttings?

I'm interested in getting some but your link from the US is out of stock. Thanks.

Time: 26th October 2021 9:08pm

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Linton says...
Well as you can see the Monk plants flower profusely every year but sadly they have still not fruited to date. Have tried to propagate them by cuttings and layering with no success at all. So at this stage the only sure method I have found is to grow them from seeds. Cheers!
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Time: 29th October 2021 9:43pm

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Jadelink says...
I would love to know how to get them going, as I use enough of them and they should be able to do fine in Melbournes climate.

They are dioecious. If you have only one gender of plants they may not be fertilising.

The other possible issue may be lack of polinators. I've been unable to find any information on what might pollinate them naturally, but you could experiment with a fine paint brush, like they do with vanilla orchids, and see if they fruit.

Tell us what you find, I'd love to get hold of some propogation material, but Richo has stopped shipping to Australia during the pandemic, when customs just began seizing all foreign seeds.

Time: 28th November 2021 7:43pm

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Linton says...
Ok I will try hand pollinating them this season as suggested and see if that works. Cheers!

Time: 1st December 2021 8:08am

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Jadelink says...
You can also photo the bases of different plants flowers, the females will have an ovum at the base. Pollination here means you have to take pollen from a male flower to a female.

Tell us how it goes, I'd love to get my hands on some actual viable specimens, I'll check my Chinese Medicine contacts and see if they have propagated successfully.

Time: 2nd December 2021 1:51am

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mgoul131 says...
Hi Linton, Do you have seeds from the Monk fruit? If so would you sell any.


Time: 14th December 2021 6:40pm

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Linton says...
Sorry no seeds because as stated above, the plants have not yet produced any fruit from which to obtain the seeds.

Time: 18th December 2021 1:26pm

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