Size on limoncello (forum)

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Hi,
Does anyone have experience with what size Limoncello trees can be pruned down to, and still maintain fruiting?
I have a mid-sized yard and would like to grow one.
Thanks
Matt

Time: 10th August 2015 1:14pm

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Julie says...
MTC,Limoncello is a liqueur made from lemons. I don't think there is a specific variety called Limoncello.

Of course, I could be wrong - have you seen one for sale?

Time: 10th August 2015 1:27pm

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sternus1 says...
lol Julie I think he's talking about Luc's garcinia, which is also called limoncillo.

Yes. you can prune them to a few meters and they will still produce heavily.

Time: 10th August 2015 1:51pm

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Waterfall says...
They are meant to be super slow growing anyway aren't they?

Time: 10th August 2015 2:04pm

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kim14 says...
The "limonchello" (spelling?) I got from Tass1 recently is said to be a sweet lemon.

Time: 10th August 2015 3:23pm

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MIke T1 says...
The Mexican can be quite large and they do grow slow.G.prainiana is slower.Anyway in subtropical climates their size nay be easier to control.

Time: 10th August 2015 7:30pm

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Julie says...
Thanks Kim It's all very confusing!

As far as I know, even the varieties grown in Italy for liqueur aren't actually called Limoncello.

So is garcinia like a lemon? I've never seen one.

Time: 10th August 2015 8:27pm

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Boris Spasky says...
There is no such lemon variety. Beware of marketing names.

Time: 10th August 2015 10:31pm

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Chris says...
The lemon variety used in Italy for limoncello is Santa Teresa Feminello. I doubt it is available in Australia, but Boris you should know??
I have tried a home made version made with Lisbon lemons and it was far superior to those available from Dan Murphy's. I think the key is making sure you avoid the bitter white pith.
Mike, your tropical input in this instance is entirely irrelevant.

Time: 10th August 2015 10:41pm

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Manfred says...
I worry about the term "sweet lemon". We have a local fruit, quite popular, which most refer to here as the sweet lemon. It is a mandarine/lemon cross, and I am trying to promote the name "lemdarine" but mainly get patronising chuckles. It isn't a lemon, but no-one can find lemdarine in the literature, so it must be something else. (Many Rare Fruiters are very old!)

We propagated and distributed a couple of trays of lemdarine plants a few years ago at the Rare Fruits AGM. So does Kim14 of Dianella have a lemdarine, possibly sourced there, or some sort of lemon, or other lemon cross?

For reference, the fruit looks very like Nick Limey's mystery fruit in the red centre lime thread, tastes like a lemon with lots of sugar and peels easily like a mandarine. It comes true to type from seed and bears early and prolifically. Fruit is about twice the size of most lemons, more like a very big meyer lemon.

I find meyer lemon juice still a bit sharp to drink straight, but no problem with the lemdarine.

Time: 11th August 2015 10:17am

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Julie says...
Manfred, that sounds intrigung. Any chance of a few seeds - can swap for Seville orange if you are interested.

Have you made/tried marmalade from the fruit? Could be similar to Rangpur lime, which I'm told makes lovely marmalade.

You can contact me @: julwood at iprimus dot com dot au.

Time: 11th August 2015 11:37am

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denise1 says...
There is a large mild lemon that is in northern NZ and comes true by seed. It is called Maori lemon and Kaipara Lemon. It is a bit different to the huge ponderosa lemon, both of these grown in home gardens only and are not common. I dont think they grow wild here and they are not native. Maybe the Maori lemon is similar to the exotic wild lemon that grows wild around eastern parts of northern NSW.

Time: 11th August 2015 11:40am

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Manfred says...
I will get in touch Julie- not this week, but fairly soon.

Time: 11th August 2015 7:21pm

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kim14 says...
Met a gentleman earlier today who had a "limoncello" tree grown grown seed taken over with him from Italy many years ago. Not sure what the actual type is, but I'll grow out any seeds from the fruits he kindly gave me. :)

Time: 7th September 2015 11:03pm

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jakfruit etiquette says...
"For reference, the fruit looks very like Nick Limey's mystery fruit"
How's that Manfred, Nick Limey's mystery fruit has an unusual shape on the base of the fruit. Just wondering if your sweet lemon is the same, or has a swelling on the stem/neck end ?

Time: 7th September 2015 11:56pm

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kim14 says...
Manfred, my limoncello had one mature fruit at time of purchase but was only the size of an armour mandarin. Not sure how it tasted as my mum picked it a few days ago.

These are the limoncello fruits from the gentleman i met earlier today:
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Time: 8th September 2015 12:31am

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Hi kim14, they look very interesting. How about a taste test report and a pic of a cut fruit.ps I dont run the knife right through a Citrus fruit, o'wise the seed get cut.

Time: 8th September 2015 7:33am

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Julie says...
Kim, in my experience nothing will convince an older Italian that they are wrong about anything, but limoncello does only refer to the liqueur, not the lemon variety.

'The ground here, alternating layers of tufo and limestone, creates the perfect soil for the cultivation of the lemon variety known as "Sorrento" ....... This lemon variety is so particularly sweet that locals eat thick slices of the fruit, skin and all, with, perhaps, just a dusting of sugar.

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/limoncello-when-life-gives-you-lemons


Time: 8th September 2015 1:30pm

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Markmelb says...
Im putting up a photo i found in a book a friend gave me about plants used on the Amalfi Coast and found a photo in there of a Varietythey call Citrus Limon Var : Sfusato Amalfitano -- they use this also in Limoncello.

I wonder what I could make from my Flicks Yellow skin steeped in Vodka for a couple months?
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Time: 8th September 2015 2:07pm

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Julie says...
Mark, you could make limoncello! No need for a special variety from what I've heard. Lots of recipes on the net.

I first came across it in one of Nigella's books years ago, but never got around to making it. With vodka at $40 a bottle it had better be good!

Time: 8th September 2015 8:50pm

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Markmelb says...
Julie I made stevia liquid using shredded leaves in Vodka - preserved it better than a water based tincture.
Worked well but didnt like the greening colour.

Aldi has Vodka under $30 a bottle so will have a go at limoncello for summer sipping - Ive had once before thats been stored in the Fridge and on ice. Very Tasty.
Im sure imported Limoncello would be quite expensive too - will check next time at a bottleshop.

Time: 8th September 2015 9:11pm

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kim14 says...
jakfruit - the fruits actually resemble the developing fruits on my limoncello tree.

I've read that too Julie. :) I want to grow out these seeds because I love plants that have a history.

Re the blue pea, I think slugs ate two of the three seedlings I told you about previously. The one remaining doesn't look good at all. I've put in a second batch of seeds yesterday - fingers crossed.

Time: 10th September 2015 1:20pm

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Brain says...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152546417013689&set=a.10152361383493689.1073741972.86471888688&type=3&theater

looks like they are in aus, and now i want one.

Time: 15th September 2015 2:03am

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Markmelb says...
Brain - I would love a tree or some scion wood too - this would complete my Citrus collection - wonder what rootstock they are using?

Who lives near the Cannington market in WA?

Time: 15th September 2015 8:33am

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kim14 says...
I'm fairly confident the Joe mentioned in Brain's link is the same Joe I got my fruits from.

Had a taste earlier, and is as described in abovementioned link.

Limoncello fruits look a lot like the millsweet limetta...
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Time: 15th September 2015 2:38pm

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Brain says...
I am wondering what is the best option, should Kim like to help us poor and lemon deficient east coast cousins.

a) seeds
b) fruit (uncut with seeds inside)
c) scion
d) a tree.

I'm thinking that a tree is too hard, too costly and takes too long in transit from WA to the east. (unless you are planning a holiday to the east, haha).

So if I take seeds/fruit and Mark takes a scion, at least we stand a good chance of getting the genetics to the east.

If it's not too much trouble and you think you can help, the least we can do is compensate you for your expenses and efforts.

Time: 15th September 2015 3:38pm

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Chris says...
When you verify your info off a Facebook page then you really are headed for confusion.
The FB post actually says 'supposedly', so there is already a degree of doubt.
For some reason kim you keep peddling the idea that limoncello is
1) a named variety and
2) made from a sweet lemon.
Both are wrong.
Four winds is a longstanding reputable grower in California who have been growing Santa Teresa Feminello for a long time. Note in their description: high acid content.
https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/our-citrus-trees/lemon/mediterranean-lemon.html

The fruits also have very few seeds.


Time: 15th September 2015 4:08pm

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kim14 says...
More than happy to post you the two remaining fruits from Joe's tree Brain. I've got enough seeds to keep me happy from the third fruit. My tree is only small but scions doable at a later date.

Not peddling anything Chris.

Time: 15th September 2015 5:50pm

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Boris Spasky says...
I do not know whether the lemon varieties discussed exist in Australia.
However, what I will do is check next month what lemon cultivars have legally been imported. If clean budwood exists I will bud some trees. In the meantime I would not recommend distributing budwood or fruit interstate from this tree. Safest from seed without a doubt.


Time: 15th September 2015 8:51pm

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MissDebsie1 says...
This is the only place Ive seen the St Teresa Lemon discussed. I am after this Sorento/Amalfi lemon tree and was hoping anyone had come across one in the last 4 years since this thread was created?

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WarrenS says...
You ever find one? I am looking as well. Are they also called Sfusato lemon? I found the following on one site - Santa Teresa lemons are an Italian variety of Citrus limon. According to some, they offer the most classic lemon flavor of all the varieties, yet one that is different from more modern, American-developed varieties. Santa Teresa lemons are a disease-resistant hybrid of the femminello ovale lemon. They are sometimes referred to as Femminello Santa Teresa lemons, Sfusato lemons or Sorrento lemons.


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