Soncoya and Illama seeds (forum)

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I am looking for those seeds, seedlings or grafted plants. Anyone knows where to get them? Soncoya = Annona purpurea and Illama = Annona diversifolia.

Time: 13th December 2010 11:03am

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micarle says...
Tradewinds had seeds of the Soncoya not to long ago!! And Fruitlovers have the ilama available now.

Time: 13th December 2010 12:54pm

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micarle says...
Just checked Tradewinds and the soncoya is back for sale!

Time: 13th December 2010 12:56pm

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fruitist says...
Anything in Australia? I used to get plenty from overseas but only limited success with Soncoya. Those seeds need to be fresh.

Time: 13th December 2010 1:29pm

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fruitist says...
Anything in Australia? I used to get plenty from overseas but only limited success with Soncoya. Those seeds need to be fresh.

Time: 13th December 2010 1:30pm

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fruitist says...
Anything in Australia? I used to get plenty from overseas but only limited success with Soncoya. Those seeds need to be fresh.

Time: 13th December 2010 1:30pm

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micarle says...
I Germinated 3 Soncoya's from Tradewinds seeds last year. They got to about 20cms and the cold got them. But they were very quick to come up! From memery about 1 month.

Time: 13th December 2010 3:12pm

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fruitist says...
I never bought or got seeds from them although I "know" both collectors. Soncoya seedlings have red stems. I haven't had dealings with AQIS for a few years. From what I have read here on various threads, it appears that it is easier now to get through the quarantine checks. Many years ago, it was quite hard even on items allowed in ICON.

Time: 13th December 2010 3:34pm

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micarle says...
Yep i would agree ,it is easy!!! You just need to go through Icon. The soncoya i germinated from them were totally purple( leaves and stem's)



Time: 13th December 2010 8:36pm

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John Mc says...
Just bought a small one off EBay. What are they like?
I know EBay's dodgy but I couldn't resist. It's from a guy named counsent2, can anyone vouch for him?
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Time: 19th March 2012 9:47pm

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Mike says...
John Mc, BJ sent me a page from e-jardim.com that is also printed across the top of one of those shots.He may have his 'mexicano' seed(s) from that source.Sorry to dob you in BJ.I haven't eaten illamas but have spoken to people who have tried quite a few.There are many varieties of them and the white fleshed ones are said to be sweeter than the red wioth some exceptions.Skin colour,shape,size,seediness and productivity are supposed to vary dramatically.

Time: 19th March 2012 10:00pm

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John Mc says...
Thanks Mike, still waiting for more details from the seller, whether it's red or green.

Time: 19th March 2012 10:08pm

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BJ says...
The small ones pictured on ebay look like the one grown at tropical fruit world. Seedy with almost no flesh. I could be wrong though. There are good ones. There has been a breeding program at nambour, so perhaps material will be released one day. I may have one in ground at my father's farm that may be an illama or a cross with atemoya. I'll know in a few years.

Mike, i didnt get the mexican Garcinia seeds from eJardim, but from the source they got theirs from. Very good site for information if you run the text through a google translate. Too bad we cant bring in Myrtaceous seeds from them at the moment :(

Time: 19th March 2012 10:12pm

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BJ says...
I've purchased a few things from that ebay seller. All have been nice little plants at a good price. I saw the Ilama the other night, but the image just looked like an average fruit - almost like reticulata.

Time: 19th March 2012 10:18pm

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John Mc says...
Thanks BJ, I questioned that pic myself but discounted it as immature fruit and went ahead and bought it anyway. I just hope he knows his job.

Time: 19th March 2012 10:37pm

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trikus says...
Some superior Soncoya brought back from Guatemala a few years ago by local growers . Grafted trees available . Come to Feast of the Senses this weekend and get 1 .

Time: 19th March 2012 10:54pm

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Mike says...
trikus,peter and trina said they might give me one with the panamanian and guatamalan scions on one rootstock.The cyclone happened then and I didn't want to bug them about it.They reckon some soncoya are well worth it and good quality.They should have ditched the fruit conference and trawled the markets.

Time: 19th March 2012 10:59pm

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David says...
Its been a while since this thread was opened ,was wondering if anyone was successful with securring some soncoya seeds or plants,am interested if anyone can help with this .Thanks David.

Time: 20th January 2016 6:49pm

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David says...
Just to keep this in view anyone who has sourced this tree or seeds please let me know. Thankyou.

Time: 25th January 2016 10:58pm

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Mike Tr says...
Forget soncoya they are trash.When my ilamas actually set fruit I will let you know David.

Time: 1st February 2016 8:42am

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David says...
Thanks Mike, curious why are they trash,flavour ,size, seediness, let me know.The Poshte in the backyard this year was covered in flowers but so far none set ,think this might have to do with lack of water,cant keep enough up to it.Thanks again Mike.

Time: 1st February 2016 5:20pm

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Mike Tr says...
Bad taste, seedy and flesh hard to get out.Poor cropping on a big tree also doesn't help.

Time: 8th February 2016 9:14am

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