Sumac Spice (forum)

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Hi!

Just wondering if anyone knows where I might be able to source some sumac seeds or plants - for the spice? Or if you grow them yourself?

Thanks,

Camille

Time: 24th July 2016 12:14pm

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bbudd says...
Should be back in canada in september
Ought to be in seed that time of year
The staghorn sumak is a common wild growing tree in Ontario/Quebec
I'll see about harvesting some seed
I'd also like to see if will grow in Thailand
Nice plant-and not to choosey about growing conditions there-gets to about 15 ft in height
PM me and well see about getting you some seed

Time: 5th August 2016 11:10am

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90 says...
Hey Bbudd,
Thanks a lot. Is the wild variety edible?

Time: 7th August 2016 10:51am

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bbudd says...
lol-Ya
The wild staghorn is the BEST eating-Either as spice or as a drink (tart-like lemonade)
Just happens to be native to that area

Time: 8th August 2016 12:10pm

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Linton says...
Found this site which shows how to make wild staghorn lemonade. Sounds great and very simple to prepare!

http://countrysidenetwork.com/daily/gardening/fruit-vegetable-garden/staghorn-sumac-the-wild-lemonade-berry/

Time: 8th August 2016 8:12pm

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Joel15 says...
Staghorn sumac, Rhus typhina is not uncommon in Australia, it can be found at nurseries. I have R. glabra which is very similar but supposed to be somewhat superior as a spice or flavouring, but it is not at flowering age yet. Traditionally it's R. coriaria that is used for the spice but you would have to import fresh seed and grow it yourself.

Time: 8th August 2016 10:03pm

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bbudd says...
Back from Canada
Have staghorn sumak with me
Harvested the spice from the flowers so lots of seed available
Planning on planting some in Thailand myself

Time: 17th October 2016 8:47pm

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Linton says...
Hi Randy.....Welcome Back! Hope you had a good trip.

Actually I just got some large fruiting Haskaps sent from Canada - Borealis and Honeybee - some of them have germinated already!

Would be interested to know if you saw any good Haskap cultivars while you were there or know of other good varieties that might be available as they are farmed commercially in Canada. Thanks.

Time: 18th October 2016 2:26pm

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bbudd says...
ANYONE INTERESTED IN SEED JUST CONTACT ME

Time: 18th October 2016 7:47pm

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Linton says...
Coming back to the Haskaps, I'm also looking for cultivars like Indigo Gem and Cinderella (a more compact bush) which are commercially farmed in North America. I read that it's recommended to plant different varieties of Haskaps together for best results. Did you see any Haskap/Honeyberries at all while you were in Canada? Or maybe it was the wrong season. Thanks.

Time: 21st October 2016 9:41am

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Joel15 says...
I think we got Haskap seeds from the same person Linton! The plants I grew from them eventually succumbed to wilt though :( I got some more recently though but am stratifying them as I'm going overseas soon.
I'm happy to know someone else is growing them!

On that note true Sumac appears to be quite susceptible to wilt as well..

Time: 21st October 2016 11:49am

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Tabs says...
Linton, haskaps do not grow true to type so any seeds will be genetically different from the parent. Haskaps of Oz have been trialing them for 3 years down in Tasmania. They can now tell which ones are sweet and which are tart. They are now trying to determine which ones are more tolerant of warmer climates but Denise says that you can grow them wherever you grow blueberries. I assume those more suited for colder regions but who can tell what genetic variation will turn up with the seeds. Go to www.haskapsofoz.com.au and ask for the latest newsletter.

Time: 28th May 2019 1:41am

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Tabs says...
bbudd do you still have seeds available?

Time: 28th May 2019 1:43am

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Tabs says...
Linton, you can email Denise at Denise@mediasupportservices.com.au

Time: 28th May 2019 1:46am

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Tabs says...
or denise@haskapsofoz.com.au

Time: 28th May 2019 1:48am

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Julie says...
Unless you want to encourage spam, it's much safer to put your address as:

denise at haskapofoz dot com dot au

Time: 28th May 2019 11:31am

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bbudd says...
Still have seed from Canada
Tried growing in Thailand but they didn't like the tropics-only got about a foot tall then died
Presently awaiting seed from Israel,hopefully better adapted to the heat

Time: 28th May 2019 12:30pm

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denise1 says...
haskap seedlings grown together in Auckland, New Zealand, did not set fruit. I guess they needed quite a lot of frost which was not available. Blueberries grow well and bear well in much warmer climates. The only similarity is the fruit Im afraid.

Time: 28th May 2019 2:20pm

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