The right spot (forum)
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Thought id start another topic, Mike tell me if you can, somewhere between Cairns and Brisbane there i beleive is a sweet spot, that place where climate is even enough for trees to grow not to tall yet warm enough to flourish, in the tropics the heat makes things grow so profusely ,yet down here were tempered by the cool, so somewhere in between is that sweet spot mentioned. Any ideas
Time: 11th June 2012 8:41pm
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Mike says...
It isn't up this way.When I went in the creek today the water would have been hardly 26c.
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Time: 11th June 2012 8:51pm
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Mike says...
David, it would have to be the sunshine coast.The council here keeps putting signs up where they are just joking.
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Time: 11th June 2012 8:55pm
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David says...
Crocs i can understand, but the other is crazy, what do they think your going to do with it.
Time: 11th June 2012 9:01pm
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Mike says...
David, it would have to be the sunshine coast.The council here keeps putting signs up where they are just joking.
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Time: 11th June 2012 9:10pm
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David says...
Nice lot of fish caught Mike ,looks like a nice day to
Time: 11th June 2012 9:15pm
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John Mc says...
Yeah, a bit hot in the poly house still...34
Time: 11th June 2012 10:21pm
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MaryT says...
John Mc I think Mike's plants are colonising the east coast.;) My place is overrun with them too (thanks Mike). Here's the sweet spot; where the home is, David.
Wow; just checked out the fish photo Mike - is that you defying the warnings of the city? Are we going to read about you in the news one day?
Time: 12th June 2012 7:59am
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amanda says...
It's interesting that people always think that the ideal place has to be around the sunshine coast etc..?
There are many other areas that would be superior - if they had access to large amounts of good water (other than too much rain which tends to mess up flowering etc..so not ideal - nor cyclones..??)
Take Carnarvon (WA) for eg. The first grapes, peaches and nectarines come out in huge quantities - very first of the season.
Then comes asparagus,carambolas, mangoes, paw paw, citrus (pink grapefruit mainly) etc etc
All sorts of veg and fruit basically.
All year round they grow beautiful tomatoes, capsicum and bananas..?
The soil is deep red clay loam (Gascoyne delta soils) and the water is from underground, good and plentiful.
I am certain they could grow many other unusual tropical fruits etc..if they could get folks interested/worthwhile.
The climate/weather is fairly predictable...
Pretty good effort I reckon..? :)
Time: 12th June 2012 4:22pm
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MaryT says...
Sounds good to me, Amanda. Is that where you're heading next? BTW how's the storm treating you?
Time: 12th June 2012 4:29pm
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M Nash says...
Hey Mike, Is there anything interesting and useful as far as a eating fruits that you could recomend from your trees that would go ok on the tweed red soil belt?.
Time: 12th June 2012 5:47pm
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Mike says...
M Nash I reckon,David,BJ and John Mc would have more firepower in the advice department for trees suitable for your area.If your soil is a basaltic krasnozem then trees should flourish better than on other soils (maybe deep fertile alluvials are as good) and be more hardy.If I were in your area I would have fai zee sui lychee,biew kiew longan,crisp orange jackruit,figs,atemoyas,cherimoyas,a few good citrus,jaboticaba,mangoes,black sapote,canistel,mamey,avos,a few eugenias,guavas and bananas off the top of my head.It would be good also to try some a bit more tropical like abiu,rollinia,chempadak and a few odd rare ones.Low chill stonefruit and crunchy persimmons would also be good.
Lansiums,durians,rambutans,pulasans and mangosteens are equatorial and the cost/benefit analysis may keep them in the red.
Time: 12th June 2012 6:54pm
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amanda says...
Hey MaryT...no way! I did 5years in both Cairns and Carnarvon...done my "time", thanks ;-D
Nice places to visit.
We ok in storm thanks...have had much, much worse. It's sting is down south further - and I feel for those guys.
The "once in decade storm" twice in 3days is a bit hard to take.. :-(
Time: 12th June 2012 8:00pm
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Haakon says...
I reckon in addition to a tropical fruit sweet spot there might also be a temperate sweet spot with enough chill for berries, cherries etc but still superb growing conditions. Where is that spot because I am moving there.
Time: 13th June 2012 2:59pm
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Julie says...
Hey Haakon, parts of Roleystone have really good soil and growing conditions. It does vary from one block to another because it is hilly - soil moves downhill over the centuries!
Not so good for tropicals, other than avocadoes and mangoes, but you can grow just about anything else. Local orchards grow a bit of everything.
Probably too rocky/stony for commercial vegetables, but fine for backyard growers.
Time: 13th June 2012 8:27pm
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amanda says...
Bedfordale (back of Armadale) u can grow mangoes and cherries...not bad I reckon!?
(There is an interesting orchard there that Diggers wrote about - in their book a few years back?)
I am guessing there is no perfect place tho hey?! Damn!
(edit: lol....just realised where I "know" u from now Haakon!? PEG! It never ceases to amaze me just how "connected" the gardening/growing web of people is...all over Aust..?)
Time: 13th June 2012 9:13pm
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VF says...
Hey Amanda, we're all seeing more green on the other-side of the fence. We should celebrate what we have but we always want more - I know I'm always trying low-chill variety temperate fruits, cold-hardy variety tropicals and everthing in between.
WA can never be written off - what would I do without my daily Pink Lady or Sundowner, my glass (or bottle?) of Margeret River plonk, and the fantastic Pomegranates coming our way at the moment (superior in size and taste to the US imports)? Have you ever tried growing Pistacchios - I think that there would be many areas in WA they'd be suitable for - I'd attempt these if I thought I had a chance. And Date Palms.
P.S. Have you thought about moving to Kununurra? ...only joking! ;)
P.P.S. My perfect place is home.
Have a great day!
Time: 14th June 2012 10:51am
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Julie says...
amanda, Bedfordale is about 15 mins away from me, so practically the same conditions as Roleystone. I know a few people who live there.
Time: 14th June 2012 7:43pm
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Brendan says...
Hi David, the 'sweet spot' along the Qld coast, would be Bundaberg!:-)
Mike, is that you in the top photo?
Time: 16th June 2012 7:21am
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Mike says...
Brendan yes it is.The sweet spot would be different places for different groups of fruits.There would be overlap zones as well where it may not be perfect for some but you could grow an extra large number of fruit species.If you think about tropicals,stonefruit,mediterraneans,sub tropicals etc I think Bundaberg to Newcastle would be a zone of overlap where many would grow and it would be the sweet spot for lychees,atemoyas and a few others.
Time: 16th June 2012 7:46am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,
Have a good trip next week. Take care.
Lucy.
Time: 16th June 2012 7:56am
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Mike says...
Thanks lucy.My skin will turn to powder and my lips will crack in that hostile environment but it is less than a week until I get back to civilisation.
while I have you lucy do you know what this pale bean-gourd that is 1.6 long? I thought it was russian cucumber until it fruited.
Time: 16th June 2012 8:47am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,
Russian cucumber is about 20 cm long, and very chubby and kind of acid free.
I think you mean just an Asian gourd that taste very much like zucchini.
Time: 16th June 2012 10:53am
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Mike says...
Lucy the picture didn't go in last time, here it is.
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Time: 16th June 2012 11:22am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Mike,
Wow! How did you make it?. I have never seen a gourd that long and look like still very young. I would love some seeds. I stir fry with beef or make chunky chicken soup or steam and add a bit of crushed garlic and olive oil at the end, yummy and very healthy.
Time: 16th June 2012 11:28am
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Mike says...
Sure lucy and it is still young with a bit of growing to do.It is the first one on the vine and still firm with some fuzz on the skin.
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Time: 16th June 2012 11:39am
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Yes, Still very young, I recon it will reach 2 meters very soon.
Time: 16th June 2012 12:18pm
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John Mc says...
Ahh! That's solved a perplexing problem I've had for a while. I have one of those vines growing wild under the pool deck. It must have come from Mike and somehow fallen out of the container and self seeded. I've often wondered what the hell it is and where did it come from. Problem solved.
Time: 16th June 2012 7:49pm
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Mike says...
John Mc I may have passed seeds of that one to you out of the initial batch I had.I think I also sent dragon gourds or was that snake gourds? Anyway the one above has white flowers and the dragon yellow.
Time: 16th June 2012 8:00pm
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Haakon says...
Love the Perth Hills but I am not sure that they are the temperate fruit sweet spot. Terribly harsh summer, skeletal soils.
I am imagining somewhere well watered like south coast NSW.
You are lucky indeed if your personal sweet spot is just outside.
Time: 19th June 2012 5:26pm
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snottiegobble says...
Mike, that top photo with the warning sign makes me think of the Bob Marley classic "What ya gonna do when they come for you?"
Nice heap of fish though, what are they?
Time: 20th June 2012 1:37am
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