Tree with no name. (forum)

Geoff starts with ...
Hi. I have this beautiful tree that gives pink flowers then turns into a fruit, that has a citrus perfume.
What is it? and is it edible?
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Time: 17th September 2010 9:36pm

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micarle says...
Geoff! That tree is very unusual!!! How's it taste????? Nice and healthy.

Time: 17th September 2010 9:47pm

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allybanana says...
with a smell like citrus and a leaf a bit like white sapote i would hazard a guess family Rutaceae. What does the flower look like does it have distinct petals how many? does it have lots of fluffy stamens like a eucalypt or fejoa or only a few. By looking at the stem it looks like the corola/petals were attatched below the ovary/imature fruit like a citrus not above like fejoa or apple.

Some garden geek will know it at a glance but not this one.

Time: 17th September 2010 10:55pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes I have this tree too Geoff and always wondered what it was. Almost rivals the lemon myrtle, a lot of aromatic oils in the fruit. I might e-mail the pics to a young botanist in Alstonville - will get back if I hear anything. Phil.

Time: 18th September 2010 10:36am

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Geoff says...
Phil Re: tree with no name.
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Time: 18th September 2010 11:38am

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
OK thanks Geoff, the flowers help a lot with ID.

Time: 18th September 2010 11:49am

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Charles cant spell says...
Kinda like
Euodia elleryana, Melicope elleryana
Family: Rutaceae
Pink Evodia, Pink Princess

On http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?search_op=and&keyword_op=and&lang=e&family=Rutaceae&number=10&user=tt&sale=1&first=21

Might give the experts an idea anyway


Time: 18th September 2010 2:11pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Yes similar looking fruit but seems pretty much inedible, I'd say related somehow. As Geoff says, the leaves are very much like a casimiroa.

Time: 18th September 2010 2:14pm

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allybanana says...
Thats very big stigma you have there Geoff yours doesent look quite like the princess to me

Time: 18th September 2010 2:47pm

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Jason says...
The un opened flowers look the same as Casimiroa too even the seed look the same.

There's a few trees in that genus and it's next to impossible to find pictures of more than 2 or 3 but I'd bet it's a Casimiroa species, it's just too similar not to be.

Maybe C. emarginata ? but could be any of these as they are all almost impossible to find pictures of on the net

C. calderoniae

Time: 18th September 2010 4:04pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
It has a cauliflorous habit like a casimiroa as well, quite an attractive tree in its own right. Mine flowered but didn't set fruit this year. Seems to self seed, I have a small grove of them in a weedy part of the property.

Time: 18th September 2010 4:42pm

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allybanana says...
My moneys on Melicope rubra http://www-public.jcu.edu.au/discovernature/plantscommon/JCUDEV_015405

Time: 18th September 2010 5:50pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I think you might be right Ally - thanks for your input, at least it doesn't seem to be an introduced weed of some kind. Will leave it to prosper! Phil.

Time: 18th September 2010 5:54pm

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allybanana says...
I noticed Daleys sell a melicope as ulysses blue butterfly food plant the one charles cant spell mentioned. I have heard that there was some planted in Cains as food plants as the butterfly were getting rarer as its food plant disapeared.

Time: 18th September 2010 7:24pm

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Jason says...
Phil you should see if it's graft compatible with white sapote just for kicks, sure looks closer than anything else I've seen outside the Casimiroa genus

Time: 18th September 2010 10:58pm

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allybanana says...
I got exited about the same thing mysealf jason until i checked the subfamily,the're a fair distance taxanomicaly, but hey a graft is quick easy experiment whats to loose.

Time: 18th September 2010 11:35pm

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Geoff says...
Hi Phil, seems like Allybanana has got it right.
I have checked out Melicope Rubra on the net and it seems the same. BUT IS IT EDIBLE. The citrus smell seems like the one used in Tea (cannot think of the name)

Time: 20th September 2010 3:48am

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Geoff says...
Hi, seems that you are spot on.
I have checked it out on the net and the fruit & flowers are the same. Ta

Time: 20th September 2010 3:51am

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Jo says...
The Melicope Rubra has finished flowering in my yard and now has these hard green citrus smelling baubles on it. The juice from them is sticky and very aromatic. It is the host tree for the Ulysses butterfly. We have many in our garden and these trees are planted quite commonly around this area in gardens and for reforestation.
The fruit is used in Chinese medicine but I don't know enough about it to eat it myself.

Time: 2nd January 2011 4:35pm

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allybanana says...
Jo do you have Ulysses butterfly in your area, that in my opinion is so exiting and more than enough of a reason to have the tree.

I am not mowing the patch of clover on the nature strip because there is a team of zizina in it (the tiny grey butterflies with purple on there wings), we also have Australian admirals breeding on the stinging nettles Meadow argus on plantain common browns and citrus butterflies both native and introduced. Occasionally one of my favourites the very colourful common jezebel on the mistletoe which grows on the big cherry tree. We also have a few skippers, the occasional blue triangle vagrant and last but not least a big mess of cabbage whites.

The tropics is a great place for butterflies and they are such a beautiful addition to the garden.

Time: 2nd January 2011 10:13pm

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trikus says...
Always forget the name of this weedy shrub , but when I see a pair of cairns birdwing flutter by, I know why I put up with them .
At least most are next door . AH it just came to me Clerodendrum paniculatum .
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Time: 3rd January 2011 10:43am

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mazza says...
I have some of those trees, and there are more in the rainforest walk I take, by the Millstream River at Ravenshoe. I was wondering if the fruit was edible. You say it is? Have you tried it? Tastes like? I planted one to attract the butterflies, in particular the Ulysses. I call t a butterfly tree, the neighbour has one as well. they like dappled shade and moist soil. I will get some photos.

Time: 25th January 2011 11:26am

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amanda says...
Geoffs original pics remind me very much of a similar tree I saw in Bali - which looked for all the world like a Casimiroa - but the locals told me the fruit was eaten by the squirrels only..

Time: 25th January 2011 12:45pm

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