Tropical Fruit Trees Successfuly Grown in Sydney/Wollongong/Newcastle (forum)

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Hi everyone,

Im really interested to hear from other people in the sydney/wollonong/newcastle region regarding what tropical fruit you have managed to grow successfully?

My partner and I have just planted out over 100 different fruit, trees, shrubs and vines on our suburban block ... not all tropical fruit though!

Ive already had fruit off:

-peanut butter tree,
-miracle fruit
-panama berry
-black sapote

Other tropical fruit trees i've planted outside but still waiting for them to fruit include.

-abiu
-ambarella
-canistel
-carambola
-cherry of the rio grande
-jaboticaba
-jakfruit
-lychee
-longan
-pitomba
-rollinia
-sapodilla
-yellow jaboticaba

What have you manage to grow and fruit?

Have a great day!

Rich
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Anonymous says...
hay i'm jeoluous. hehehehe

Time: 22nd April 2008 3:12pm

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Tony says...
I have planted sucessfully following tropical & semi-tropical fruit trees over the years: Avocado, feijoas, wax jambu (star apple), guavas (white flesh, including red cherry guavas), macadamia nuts, pomegranates, custard apple & mangoes. They produce fruits every year except for mangoes, fruit flies are also of major problems in our area despite constant spraying programs. What's the name of the fruit in the picture?
Your list of fruit trees are very impressive.

Time: 23rd April 2008 8:28am

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Happy Earth says...
Hi Tony,

Wax Jambu is one fruit tree i haven't though of growing. Ive heard it tastes a bit like a big lillypilly?

The fruit in the photo is a black apple (Pouteria australis?) which is native to rainforests north of about Wollongong I think. The fruit is a local selection and absolutely delicious - the best of our bush tucker fruits I reckon! Its actually a close relative to the abiu and yellow sapote.

Check out Daleys for more info: http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Planchonella-Australis-Black-Apple.htm

Have a great day!

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Time: 25th April 2008 8:10am

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Tony says...
Hi Rich,

Wax Jambu grown in Sydney does not taste as nice or sweet as of South East Asian varieties. It's however tastier & bigger than lillie pillies. They grow in bundles of about 5-10 fruit each with spectacular pink-red colour when ripened.

Where can you buy Black Apple plants from? I enclose some photos of fruit grown in our backyard for everyone to enjoy!

Have a great ANZAC day.

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Time: 25th April 2008 11:40am

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Juz says...
Wow, Ive planted a penut butter tree, thought I was being a bit hopeful to get fruit, but you give me hope! Im down near jervis bay. We get got frosts here. Also have a black sapote. And Im going to get a lychee, logan, and whatever else I can find. Have had some discouraging advise on some other sites that these kind of trees wont flourish, let alone fruit this far south, but you just never know if you dont have a go huh?
Do you protect your trees in any way?
Do anything special for them?
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Time: 25th April 2008 11:46am

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Tony says...
For those of us who don't know the names of fruit in photos enclosed:

Pic 1: Red Cherry guavas
Pic 2: Wax Jambu
Pic 3: Guavas (white flesh)
Pic 4: Feijoas
Pic 5: Custard Apples

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Time: 25th April 2008 1:30pm

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Happy Earth says...
Tony - those wax jambus look like mini red gourds ... very cute! Black apples shouldn't be that hard to source as they are commonly grown for local bush regeneration organisations. You can get them at all native nurseries down here in Wollongong. Your custard apple looks very healthy! What variety have you planted? do you hand pollinate the fruit?

Juz - I dont do anything special for my fruit trees, except for really focusing on improving the soil with minerals, worm castings, compost teas, and biodynamics. The more tropical the tree i plant, the more shelter i try and give it ... but hey, there still out in the open coping the wind at times. It is however frost-free where i live in Wollongong and pretty much a sub-tropical climate. I do know of people successfully growing black sapotes down in Bega. Good luck and let us know how they go :)

have a great day!

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Time: 27th April 2008 7:16am

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Robyn says...
Hi
macadamias do well in Sydney and so do citrus - mandarines, lemons, lemondades(though fruit fly is a problem), kaffir limes, mulberries and blueberries.

My panama berry didn't make it but I will try again.

Good luck
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Time: 27th April 2008 7:58pm

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Tony says...
Hi Rich,

Our custard apple tree is likely an African Pride variety. It has a prolonged fruiting process with flowers at end of summer and fruit not ripened until Sep-Oct. We consistantly getting about 25-40 fruit (~700g each) per season without a need for hand pollination nor any spraying required.

We also have planted sucessfully a macadamia (almost 10 years old, still no nuts yet, although produced flowers two years ago, may be because it's started from seedling), Narrabeen plum, Nashi pear, lemmonade, Myer lemon, sugar bananas, Fuyu persimmon (non astringent variety).

It's a pity that we suffer from fruit flies in our area which attack stone fruit & other soft skin fruit trees.

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At our local community permaculture garden in Wollongong we grow a whole range of tropical fruit trees like babacos, jaboticabas, grumichamas, Brazillian Cherries, paw paws, bananas, jakfruit, and even a green sapote which is growing slowly but steadily every year - as with most of the other trees they are young and still havent fruit yet though they are all growing well.

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Anonymous says...
Has anyone in Sydney seen a tamarind fruiting? I know they grow up down here but not sure if they will fruit?

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Kate says...
Hi, I have planted 2 babacos and 2 pepinos a few months ago. the pepinos are doing great, have about 3 dozen fruit on them, the babacos are a little slow. Where abouts in Wollongong are u as I would not mind checking out the fruit, especially the babacos, have you fruit for sale?

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Kate,

Babacos should grow a bit like a compact paw paw - ie very fast. Give them good drainage, nurtition, water, sun and they will power along.

I have one pepino which is finnaly coming good now the stevia i had next to it is dying off :)

All of our fruit trees have only been planted in the last 10 months so are all very young. Your more than welcome to come around one weekend though. Send us an email from our website in a couple of weeks and we will work something out:

http://www.happyearth.com.au/contact-us/

Have a great day!

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p.s. Our atherton raspberries planted in november have a nice juicy raspberry hanging off it and ready to be picked ... yum! There should fruit continuously from now onwards throughout the whole year and next given adequate water
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Greg says...
Hi Tony, I planted two young macadamia about 4 years ago. From one tree I got two nuts at two years old, about six the next year and this year I have about an icecream container full and it just keeps flowering. The other one hasn't done much at all. They were not grafted trees, I thought they were seedlings but I think its unlikely to fruit in that short time. I have taken some cuttings to see if they will strike. I have no idea what variety they are.
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Anonymous says...
Hey Greg,

Its sounds like your Macadamia might be grafted. Seedling trees generally take 8-10 years before producing fruits, grafted trees only take 2-6 years.

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arch says...
The distinction between cherimoyas and "custard apples" seems unappreciated and at the risk of sounding arch may I suugest some reading . Chatting on the internet can only give one limited info. aith some of it perverse and wrong . (like when people insist on calling Longans "Logans" ; rhymes with bogans

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HappyEarth says...
Not really topcial but right now im harvesting pepinos and ungis (chilean guavas).

Looking forward to my first paw paws in the next few months. Ohh ... i have one jaboticaba forming on my large leaf plant :)

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Time: 26th November 2008 9:23am

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Jantina says...
Hi HappyEarth, can you tell me what variety of pepino you have and what it tastes like? I can only find pepino Gold and find the taste rather bland. Thanks Jantina

Time: 26th November 2008 10:00am

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Trang Le says...
Hi Rich,

I've have had success with Bosworth3 lychees, logan (Kola?), the fruits are excellent and seeds are small... they are definitely more superior than the ones sold in Woolies!).

Last year my cherimoya finaly fruited, it took five long years to get there but the taste was definitely worthed!!

We also have plenty of sugar bananas in the backyard. It's interesting to note that people who are normally allergic to banana sold in the markets have no problems eating our home grown ones. In fact, we have to a hard time keeping a hold on our fruits now that everyone requesting 'freebies' from our trees.

Persimmons are fruiting through out the summer, mostly astringent. We had one non-astringent, Fuju, with fruits so large and heavy that it splited the tree in 1/2, had to wind tapes to 'glue' it back together!! but have sold the house since and have not got around to replace it yet!:(

The pawpaw is prolific this year. However, they are only good for pawpaw (even better with raw mango mixed in too!) salad because they fruited during winter and so are not very sweet, even when riping now.

Of course the good old blueberries are marvelous, grown in pots, neglected most of the year... survived only on water rinsed off dishes and an occasional banana peel, plus lemon or orange 'juice'now and again, yet they rewarded every year with a few handfull of delicious chubby silvery blue fuits. :)

Planted this year are jackfruit, jabotica, grumichama, Tahitian lime and sapodilla. So far, the only one doing really well is the grumichama, a very handsome plant with glossy green leaf! The sapodilla died within a month after planting. It died on me once before too but i thought i just give it another go... so i won't be trying it again anytime soon! The Tahitian Lime is fruiting right now! :)

I also managed to keep alive a yellow mangosteen, 7 yrs now! but so far, no fruit and it had not grown much either... it would be great if anyone can help me out this one!

Also, you might be interested to know, my next door neighbour got a candle fruit tree with loads of fruits!! :)
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HappyEarth says...
Hey Jantina ... im not sure what variety pepino i have. The flavour of the pepino has certainly exceeded my expectations - when fully ripe it tastes a bit like a good rockmelon, and they produce so much fruit for a tiny plant. Easy to propagate from cuttings im planting two more to hang over a rock wall :)

Trang - Great to hear of your success with lychees, longans and cherimoyas. I think i might plant out another cherimoya - did you have to hand pollinate yours? How old is your lychee tree?

Ive had a black gold jakfruit in the ground for over year now and its doing as good as any other fruit tree ive planted. i do know of another one in wollongong that fruits and its in a pretty exposed area right near the beach! Ohh... my sapodilla survived the winter and 100km+ winds no problems and has just finish putting on a whole lot of new growth. not all good news though ... i just lost a young mango in the winds we had last weekend - the poor thing just snap of at the base below the graft :(

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Jantina says...
Thanks Happy Earth, I will have to scheme some way to get a cutting. Do you remember where you bought it? Sorry about your mango.I am about to buy a greenhouse all this talk of mangoes and lychees etc is too much for me.

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Jantina ... I got it from a local retail nursery, i think it was Bunnings of all places. The pepinos are pure yellow with no visible strips like i have seen in other photos. Ive uploaded a picture of them for you.

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Jantina says...
Thanks Happy Earth, I have just ordered a Kendall Gold from Daleys, hope it is the same as yours.

Time: 30th November 2008 9:11am

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Trang says...
Hi HappyEarth,

Sorry to hear about your mango. The weather is a bit crazy nowaday! Good on you for keeping the saphodilla alive, maybe i'll give it another go someday. Wow, please let us know when you black gold jakfruit fruits!! I want to plant some more of those but don't have any space left!! I wish i have a block so i can grow to my heart's content! :)

My cherimoya pretty much thrives on neglect. I planted it in my sister's rental place (the tenant don't use the garden!) and so i only come there every once in a while. It took a long while to fruit but it bears alright now.

My lychees are about 5 years old. Though the logan and lychee pretty much fruited within the 1st year of planting, the yield wasn't much but after that it was quite good. I planted 3 lychees quite near each other (due to lack of space, not sure if that has any bearing on polination and hence bigger crop!) but the logan i only have one. I am waiting for Daleys to put out the Thai variety :)



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HappyEarth says...
What variety of Lychees have you planted Trang?

BTW ... the sapodilla survived the winter no problems at all. I didnt do anything in particular to look after it... i think they are a pretty tough plant ... slow growing but tough.


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Trang says...
Hi HappyEarth,

I planted the Bosworth3 (i think!). I am so envious re your sapodilla. I grew up with 2 in the backyard (in Vietnam), the fruits pretty much covered the whole tree. My dad told me that they were already fruited since he was born. We worked out it was roughly 35-40years old!! So i guess you are in luck for years to come once they start fruiting!! :))

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Valerie says...
Hi Tony,
I am impressed by your custard apple tree. I have a problem with my tree. The flowers split but it did not stay for long on the branch. It dropped off. Would you kindly advice what could be the cause? How can I help to ensure the flowers will develop into fruits? Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Merry X'mas and a Happy New Year 2009.
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Tony says...
Hi Valerie,

I use slow release fertiliser pellets (Dynamic Lifter) about twice a year. How old is your tree? Maybe it is still too young to bear fruit. I heard people use potassium to encourage more flowers to form into fruit. I would also put mulch at the base to keep it moist. As for my tree, thanks to slightly higher rainfall in Sydney in recent years, I don't water the tree either. It's now about 10 years old. Sorry I can't help much!

Merry X'mas and Happy New Year to you too.

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God Girl says...
Some macadamia leaves are serrated and so are a bit prickly on the human skin,eg M.tetraphylla and the hybrids of it.
M.integrifolia isn't prickly.

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denise says...
Hello anonymous from sydney 18 may 2008. I think I saw a loaded tamarind tree on the fenceline on the left side of the road going from the hawkesbury river bridge to Penrith. on the 44 road I think. I didnt stop to verify it but am pretty sure. That was in autumn 2005. cheers, Denise

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Hi Happy Earth, I am a hobby grower of tropical fruit trees in Auckland NZ, and my sister in Sydney and Newcastle grows them too. I have only tasted very poor black apples from trees here in new zealand. I am keen to recieve some seeds of the super nice one from woolongong mentioned above. cheers, Denise.

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Denise, what tropical trees is your sister growing in Sydney/newcastle?

You'll have to wait until next November for black apples im afradi as they have just finished fruiting and i didnt save any seeds from them :(

Have a great day :)

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Tony says...
Hi Denise, I used to live in New Windsor Heights, Auckland where we managed to grow loquats, bananas, lemons, apples, feijoas. What other tropical fruit trees can you grow sucessfully in Auckland? I really miss NZ feijoas (huge fruit!) because fruit flies don't seem to exist over there.

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denise says...
Hi Tony and others, tropical plants are doing better here recently perhaps due to global warming. Outside in the ground or barrels are; Cherimoya, Mango dwarf, Green sapote, Mamey sapote, Surinam cherry, Phoenix raspberry, Rio grande cherry, Garcinia xanthochymus, Eugenia brasiliensis, E. pyriformis--YUK, Davidsonia, Austromyrtus,, Passiflora antioquiensis, Banana, Tamarillo, Carambola, Jakfruit, Hardy Canistel or similar, Flacourtia jangomas and lovi-lovi,Eugenia tomentosa, Eug. uvalha, Babaco. Jaboticaba, Inga bean, Black Sapote, Mulberry, Lucuma obovata, Loquat Mammoth, Syzygium samarangense, Goji, ALSO not planted -Citrus yuzu, abiu, sapodilla, soursop. Finger lime, Curry leaf, Rollinea, Dwarf Papaya, Randia,Lychee.

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Jantina says...
I'm very impressed Denise, not to mention jealous. These have all been outside all winter?

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Hi Jantina, All the ones in ground or barrels have been in outdoors all winter except the mamey had a cover of plastic film over it for a few months these last 2 winters. I have found that with the tropical ones such as Wax Jambu, mamey and lychee that it is best ti get some growth forced in a greenhouse until half a meter or more and then a balance of growth with hardening off. They can be a bit slow for 2 or 3 years, but as long as they are healthy they will gradually become hardier each year.Most of my unplanted trees are in that catagory.There are other tropicals that wont grow outside at all. I have a 4meter carambola espaliered on the sunny end of the house but no fruit. Now I learned from others that this far from the tropics they dont want so much sun , they need some side shelter.It is all very interesting. Denise

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Jantina says...
Thanks for that good advice Denise. What temperature do you get down to in winter?

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denise says...
Hi Jantina,It is some years since we had any frost, we no longer have any lawn and with infill housing and other development in the city the temp is quite good now. I dont suppose we get lower than 4 degrees. In recent years my tender plants would struggle all through winter only to die just at the onset of warmer weather. In the last two years this has not been so bad. We have cool winters and generally humid most of the year. We dont get the dry air I have noticed in Sydney Denise

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peter says...
hello denise,
just wondering if you have had fruit from your antiouensis and what
you thought of it.
do you have red flowers with a
distinctive white ring in the centre.

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denise says...
Hi Peter, about Passiflora ANTIOQUIENSIS. you are right about the flower , it also has a ring of fine purple dots around the white ring. It is sweet and mild and in nz is called the vanilla passionfruit. it is very sweet but not sickly so and has a mild flavour that is nice and hard to describe. It needs lots of watering to hold its fruit and lasts several years. I am growing a native passion fruit that lives for 80 years or so for a hardy rootstock. It is called Tetrapathia tetrandra

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Jantina says...
Hi Denise, your lowest temp is about 5 degrees above mine and that makes a lot of difference as you have noticed.Back to the drawing board again! Your description of passiflora Antioquiensis sounds enticing can it take any frost?

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denise says...
Hi Jantina, The Pass/ant. vine should grow for you.It grows well climbing into small trees or on a trellis. It is not a big or dense vine so wont swamp anything out. When growing on an arch or overhead trellis the pretty flowers hang below the foliage on long stalks so good to look up at. I have some ripening now

Time: 13th February 2009 8:37am

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Jantina says...
Denise have you ever tried growing them from seed?

Time: 13th February 2009 9:50am

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denise says...
Hi Jantina, They dont always come up in the tray. I usually just wait for them to pop up in the garden by themselves and pot them up. I could send some seeds for you to try and you could roughen them up with a fine sandpaper before sowing to see if that makes them move.

Time: 13th February 2009 3:22pm

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Jantina says...
Thanks Denise I'd love to have a go and I'd be happy to pay you. If you email me at jantinarohde@activ8.net.au I will send you my address and meanwhile I will check with quarantine so we don't send seeds just for them to destroy.

Time: 13th February 2009 4:10pm

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peter says...
jantina,
it is ok to have the seeds sent
from nz. i have just recieved some in an onvelope.

denise,
one more question,
do your flowers hang on a very long
stem?

Time: 13th February 2009 5:55pm

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denise says...
Hi Peter, the flower stem is about 30cms long.

Time: 14th February 2009 8:31am

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Jantina says...
Thanks for that info Peter, that makes life easier. Denise I will send some postage asap, thanks.

Time: 14th February 2009 9:21am

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denise says...
hi jantina, i was looking at the tradewindsfruit site and the cold hardiness description for Wax Jambu sounds close to what your microclimate is. if you can use your skills you may encourage them to grow for you.Some superior wax jambu varieties are of excellent quality

Time: 14th February 2009 1:24pm

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Jantina says...
Sounds good Denise, I don't suppose you know the names of any of extra good varieties? Thanks.

Time: 15th February 2009 9:53am

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denise says...
Hi all, in florida wax jambu has tolerated a short cold spell of 28F. Some varieties are sweeter and more or less cold hardy. Check out DALEYS descriptions and TIPS. The plants are quite cheap. Grow to a meter before slowly hardening them off to where they will grow. With such marginal plants I would give some nice volcanic or rich soil to the planting site. Also try the hardier Rose apple=Eugenia (syzygium) jambos. good luck.

Time: 15th February 2009 11:12am

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HappyEarth says...
I tried a wax Jambu for the first time recently. Beautiful looking tree but the fruits tasted like our local lilly pillies - ordinary. Id recommend the rose apple over the wax jambu :)

Rich
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Time: 1st March 2009 6:23am

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denise says...
I grew my own wax jambu from a modern sweet seedless thai vatiety. I had to wait months for the tree to give a few fruits with a seed in them. from Florida. I should know what I've got in about 3 years. I am also growing rose apple that do well here and the malay apple that will grow in a plastic barrell.

Time: 1st March 2009 12:04pm

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Damian says...
Rich, I don't think you've tasted the wax jambu in malaysia, it is far superior than Australian grown, it is as sweet and crispy as an apple, the size of tennis balls.

Unfortunately I don't think you can achieve the same quality fruit in sub optimal conditions such as southern Australia. They seem rather lilly pilly like.

Time: 3rd March 2009 7:31am

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denise says...
There are favourable microclimates on the fringe of the subtropics. During the summer they have much longer sunlight hours .With mild coastal temperate winters, there are pockets and cultural techniques that allow an expansion of the normal range for a plant. With rapid growing watery fruits such as wax jambu they could respond quickly.First try growing in a barrel against a warm sunny wall .Add some good soil in the mix and give some attention to shelter etc when young. Trust me it does often work.

Time: 3rd March 2009 10:51am

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denise says...
There are favourable microclimates on the fringe of the subtropics. During the summer they have much longer sunlight hours .With mild coastal temperate winters, there are pockets and cultural techniques that allow an expansion of the normal range for a plant. With rapid growing watery fruits such as wax jambu they could respond quickly.First try growing in a barrel against a warm sunny wall .Add some good soil in the mix and give some attention to shelter etc when young. Trust me it does often work.

Time: 3rd March 2009 10:52am

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Tan says...
Where can I buy wax jambu tree in sydney ? wow ..love to grow one in the backyard if possible...

Time: 26th April 2009 4:54pm

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Ellen says...
from time to time they have it at Cabramatta cbd . In front of Cho*. ca' Vu~ng Tau`

Time: 26th April 2009 5:19pm

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Mark says...
I am interested in growing a black sapote in western Sydney. Has anyone tried this tree in the Blacktown area? What variety is suggested?

Time: 27th April 2009 7:22pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Mark, Id suggest growing a seedling black sapote. They come fairly true-to-type, will fruit withina few years and are a little hardier than grafted varieties.

Hope this helps :)

Rich
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Time: 28th April 2009 3:53pm

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Mark says...
Thanks Rich. I'll look out for one. Mark

Time: 3rd May 2009 1:18pm

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Sreeju says...
Hii,
Myself Sreeju Nair, from Kerala State, India.

I have a dream, to make this Planet Earth as a Green Planet, and I am trying to collect and plant as much as tress and plants that I can.

Nowadays, weather is changing a lot and because of that Global warming is
Increasing day by day, I wish to plant these trees for our future generation,
Other wise they can not survive for a long, because of the climate change and Global warming.
I am concentrating to plant Fruit trees and plants, which will be useful for Humans, Birds and Animals.
Kindly I am requesting you to help me to collect all the types of Tropical Fruit Trees which will grow up and ripe fruits in my State Kerala.
If you can please send me the Fruit Trees and Plants and help me in my mission to Make this Planet Earth as a Green Planet.
You can visit the web sites related fruits from my state

http://www.ezhuvelilgardens.com
http://www.oushadh.org

"Plant Trees for the Planet"

With Regards
Sreeju Nair

Time: 24th May 2009 12:27am

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amanda says...
Hello HappyEarth! U r probably out there cleaning up after the storms?! When u have time, I would really appreciate it if u could let me know of anyone over there prepared to send over black apple seeds/plants please? My climate here very similar to yours (but without the rainfall :( ..) The fruits u pictured look sensational - lets spead the genetics around and keep them going/safe, I say!?
Also - do u know the scientific name of this fruit by any chance?

Time: 24th May 2009 9:03pm

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Karen says...
A question for Denise. I am in Perth and trying to source a Yuzu tree or seeds. Do you know anyone here I can contact here?

Time: 31st May 2009 11:59pm

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denise says...
Sorry Karen, I only know of a fruiting Yuzu tree in Auckland, and a young grafted tree in my collection. There is another fancy citrus that I have and favour --Vanilla blood orange. It is completely acid free and tastes similar to sweet carrot juice.It is a very old italian variety that they called Vainiglia Pink. or similar spelling.

Time: 7th June 2009 3:14pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Amanda,

Black apple is also botanical known as Planchonella australis - although it has undergone a name change recently so im not sure if this is the old name or the new name.

Send me an email around november when its fruiting again and I might be able to supply you a superior variety seeds. Are you allowed to send seeds to WA?

Time: 7th June 2009 5:34pm

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amanda says...
No idea HappyEarth (great tag!) Glowinski said they left a lot to be desired (basically) have u got somehing special there?

If so - I would be very appreciative as long as it's no hassle and I would be happy to pay u of course.

I think I might change my tag to "NakedHands" :))) gloves are so annoying in the garden aren't they!?

Time: 7th June 2009 11:48pm

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Wollongong says...
NakedHands is good!!! I definately prefer the gloves off when working with soil :)

There is a black apple tree in Wollongong that produces fruits that are vastly superior to any other black apple fruit myself and others and sampled.

Have a great day!

Rich
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Time: 8th June 2009 12:52pm

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amanda says...
Hi HappyEarth - the black apple sounds good - have u/others been able to replicate it via seed or such? Could be one u can name!!
I get bitten lots with NakedHands but I figure that as I'm not dead yet I must be building up my own anti-venom!!?? :)

Time: 10th June 2009 11:30am

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Sreeju says...
Happy Earth

If you dont mind please tell me where did you get all these fruits tress????

Sreeju

Time: 26th June 2009 2:09am

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HappyEarth says...
Daleys of course!

Rich
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Time: 26th June 2009 5:39pm

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Michael says...
Hi HappyEarth - When is your next public open day ?

Time: 26th June 2009 9:48pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hey Michael,

Next open day will probably sometime late spring. Send us an email (from my website) and ill add you to the email list.

Have a great day!

Rich
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Time: 28th June 2009 5:52pm

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Michael says...
Thanks Rich .I will sure to do that. Can't wait to see your garden and all.

Time: 28th June 2009 8:00pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hi guys, here is 'my edibles' page which lists most of the fruit trees im growing in my backyard in Wollongong:

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/my/841/

All of the trees were planted within the last 2 years.

Rich
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Time: 17th July 2009 8:36pm

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Phil says...
Pineapples do well in Sydney as long as they get full sun all day. Two years to mature fruit ... not as big as the Qld originals but delicious!

Time: 6th October 2009 3:18pm

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HappyEarth says...
Never thought of growing pineapples ... might have to give this a go. Do you just cut the top off a pineapple and plant it out?

Time: 10th October 2009 7:30am

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Brendan says...
Hi HappyEarth,

I just twist the pineapple top off.

How's here's the trick, remove the small leaves from the bottom half of the top (you'll see roots there), then either stick it straight in the ground, or, put it in a pot for 6 to 12 months, then plant in the ground.

Some say to dry it first before planting, but I never have.

I've never tasted pineapples soo good as my 'home grown' ones. Smooth leaf and rough leaf :-)

When they bear, they can give you as many as 6 'pups' (baby pineapple plants), per plant. Mine have nearly gone feral up here :-) Can't kill 'em with a stick.

Time: 10th October 2009 7:49am

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HappyEarth says...
Thanks Brendan ... i'll will definitely give it a go!

Time: 12th October 2009 2:27pm

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marilen says...
Dear Amanda and Happy Earth,
i love your fruit trees...especially your tropical ones and i am extremely jealous hehehe. Keep up the good work and for the inspiration it brings. *thumbs up*

to anyone,
has anyone tried growing mangosteen tree? i have been contemplating on growing it but wants to make sure if anyone had any success with it especially within sydney area.

thanks,
marilen

Time: 14th November 2009 7:08am

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HappyEarth says...
Hey Marilen, mangosteen is ultra tropical and without some special type of greenhouse you will not be able to grow and fruit a common mangosteen tree.

There is always yellow mangosteen which i believe is a close relative. It is a beautiful tree with nice tasting fruits that grow in Sydney. I tasted some fruit of one of these trees at the sydney botanical gardens and they were delicious!

Rich
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Time: 14th November 2009 7:13am

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denise says...
Hi Rich,At Sydney botanic gardens they have Randia fitzalani which often goes by the name---yellow mangosteen. I have tried fruit from the subspecies at Coot-tha gardens in brisbane and it is similar to nutella--chocolate spread from a fruit the size of tennis balls.


Time: 1st December 2009 7:46am

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Michael says...
Hi Everyone,
I was fortunate enough to visit Happy Earth's aka ( Rich and Alison ) garden a few weeks back. They were really nice down to earth people. Their garden is a sight to see and experience. We need more people like them to keep this planet beautiful.

Time: 1st December 2009 1:40pm

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HappyEarth says...
Thanks for your kind comments Michael. It was great catching up with you and your partner. Hope to see you again sometime :)

Time: 4th December 2009 7:22am

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marilen says...
To Happy Earth
Thanks Rich...i shall take a look at the yellow mangosteen! thank you. pardon for the late reply.

anyway, i have downloaded the video of Happy EArth and has shown it to my dad... he was amazed as well.

hope to drop by at wollongong in the near future to see the wonders that both of you have done

merry christmas!
marilen


Time: 7th December 2009 12:28am

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Allen says...
Hi Everyone

Can anyone tell me where I can find Wax Jambu trees in Sydney? If anyone has them in the garden, I would love to see them.

Time: 11th December 2009 8:41pm

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Michael says...
Hi Allen,
Where in Sydney are you located ? In the Fairfield/Cabramatta /Liverpool area the tree grows very well . If you happen to drive through the Cabramatta area then many houses have them . They are in full bloom right now and it's quite a site to see when the whole tree is covered in fruits. There is a nursery in Canley Vale at the corner of Canley Vale Rd and Peel street that stock all kinds of Asian exotic plants. I can drop by there tommorrow and check it out for you. Alternatively you can purchase them from Daleys where i get most of my plants from. I bought a white wax jambu from daleys last year and have been growing them in a pot so that I can move it under shelter during winter. Attached are current photos of my plant .
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Time: 11th December 2009 10:08pm

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Michael says...
Hi Rich ( Happy Earth ) - Have you recieved my DVD'S yet ?

Time: 11th December 2009 10:15pm

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HappyEarth says...
Thanks Michael ... looked at it yesterday afternoon. Wish the dvd had
subtitles but it was great looking at all that exotic fruit. Think I
might have to book myself a flight to Vietnam in the holidays!

Rich
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Time: 12th December 2009 7:10am

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Michael says...
Has anyone bought the white wax jambu from Daleys and got it to fruit? My small plant above in the pot had heaps of fruits this month but they were dark crimson red . I expected it to be slightly green in colour. Did Daley's sent me the wrong variety or is that the normal colour for the white wax jambu?

Time: 22nd January 2010 1:01pm

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John Mc says...
To Rich @ Happyearth,
Hi mate, can you tell me how long it took for your black sapote to fruit? and how many did you get first season? I'm assuming it's a seedling?
My black sapote is about three years old now and dropped it's first three fruit prematurely. Maybe it just wasn't ready this year? maybe I didn't keep the water up enough? who knows, but I'm very hopeful of getting a nice little crop next year.
Is your babaco cutting doing well?

Time: 7th March 2010 9:50pm

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HappyEarth says...
Hey John... my original black sapote took 2-3 years to fruit from purchase. Its very normal for it too flower and fruit very young but then for this fruit to fall off so don't worry. Best thing for black sapote is too keep the water up during the growing season.

Babaco is going great ...thanks! I have it in a pot for better drainage and it has a couple of immature fruit hanging off it :)

Have a great day, Rich

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Time: 8th March 2010 7:06am

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John Mc says...
Thanks Rich,
I have just received a grafted var called Bernicker. It might be a bit marginal for it here. I have the seedling trees planted in the highest part of my block for more cold protection. Not that it frosts much here anyway.
I'm thinking of potting up the Bernicker and keeping it in the hot house just to be safe.
I didn't know they grew by cutting, I accidently broke a small branch off one of the seedling trees. Just for the hell of it, I planted it in a seed raising mixture and before you know it, It's already struck and growing well.

Time: 11th March 2010 10:36pm

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Edward says...
Hello John Mc. I have a black sapote tree about 4-5 metres high. It's had flowers 3 years now but they all fall without fruit set. Just read on the internet that some trees have only male flowers, which is no good. So that might be the problem.

Time: 27th August 2010 4:04pm

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John Mc says...

Ohhh, I hope not Edward. If that is the case I have insurance with three seedling trees about the same age but only one of them flowered for the first time last year. They re still quite young and up to 2m high.
Recently I bought a Mossman as well as a Bernicker. Both are growing well, even over winter.

I take it yours is not a grafted variety? Seedling trees are more cold tolerant. Sometimes it s better to be more safe than sorry, but I m always streaching the envelope.


Time: 27th August 2010 4:40pm

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neil bruce says...
Does anybody know how big lychee trees grow in Perth western australia?

Time: 17th September 2010 9:01pm

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j says...
does anyone have any spare black apple seeds they could send me?

Time: 5th November 2010 10:35pm

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micarle says...
j. send me your details. mitchellcarle at hotmail dot com i have some fresh seeds

Time: 6th November 2010 6:31am

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Hi micarle, thanks for the reply but when I try that email address I keep getting failed email deliveries.

I would love those seeds, my email is jmubaraki at hotmail dot com. Please send me an email and I will send you my details pronto!

Time: 7th November 2010 12:49am

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micarle says...
J yep i have sent you an email

Time: 7th November 2010 8:09am

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j says...
Thanks micarle, have replied to the email.

Time: 7th November 2010 11:03am

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MaryT says...
I have just started a container garden in Sydney in my car space right outside my front door. I bought many plants from Daleys and Diggers online (I don't have a car) and they are all doing well:

Lemon, Smooth Seville Orange, Pawpaw, figs, chilli, mandarin, cumquat, persimmon, goji, curry leaf, gooseberry, guava, longan, lichee, bergamot orange...I just wish I have more room!

Time: 17th December 2010 12:57am

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John Mc says...
Here's an update on what's growing in Sydney/Wollongong/Newcastle:
1. Wax Jambu ready to pick(birds haven't noticed them, yet they stand out like the proverbial)
2. Phalsa in flower
3. Cereus (Koubu)in fruit after getting another var. for pollination.
4. Second crop of sweet Brazillian cherries this summer.
5. Dwarf Amberella flowering
6. Custard apple (African Pride) approaching it's third year

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HappyEarth says...
Nice work John ... Id be interested to know if the ambarella ripens up nice for you. I had my first crop of cherimoyas and cherry of the rio grande this year... yum!

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Time: 17th February 2011 7:04am

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John Mc says...
Hi Rich,
I see your garden is comming along nicely. I'd love to come down there one day and have a look at what you're doing.
Did you save any seed from your Cherimoya?, what variety is it and how long did it take to fruit from planting out?
It appears they take longer to start fruiting than the atemoyas. I have a Forbidden Fruits var around two yo with no sign of a flower as yet. Just planted out two Sofias and two whites this year. I'd like to try my hand at grafting sometime in the near future, I see most annonas are grafted onto Cherimoya rootstocks.

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HappyEarth says...
Hey John, Didnt save any seed from the cherimoya sorry. It is also a forbidden fruits cherimoya. First fruited after two and half years. Flowers just appearing at the moment so you might have some forming on your tree as we speak. Your welcome to come check out the garden ... send us an email via our website if your heading down this way.

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Time: 17th February 2011 2:49pm

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John Mc says...
So it looks like the Cherimoya season starts towards the end of the atemoya (African Pride and Pinks Mammoth) season. I can live with that. I've been checking my 2 yo Forbidden fruits for flowers but nothing as yet. Still hoping.

Time: 17th February 2011 7:40pm

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John Mc says...
Here's a bit more what's happening.
1. Pic Pic, mini sugar cane from New Guinea, hasn't experienced a winter here yet.
2. Mango
3. Citron,
4. Carambola, beautiful sweet var
5. Babaco, need I say more.

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Time: 17th February 2011 8:26pm

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John Mc says...
A few more:

1. Indianna fig
2. Loquat, Nagasakawasi seedling, loaded.
3. Muscadine Grape. it appears to love this climate.
4. Dragon fruit, has pissed me off to no end, look at the size of this thing and not a single flower on two large plants like this one. They came from a commercial Dragon fruit farm.
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Time: 17th February 2011 8:54pm

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HappyEarth says...
Wow John ... you have got a great collection there. Has your carambola fruited for you yet?

Time: 18th February 2011 7:04am

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John Mc says...
Yes, I got around 12 beautiful sweet juicy fruits last year. I planted a few of the seeds that have germinated and are around 300mm high already. Fresh off the tree, they just drip juice.

Time: 18th February 2011 8:48am

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Jantina says...
Hi John Mc, things certainly look happy at your place. Would you be able to tell me where you got your mini sugar cane? I have full size growing in my glasshouse but mini would be much easier to manage. Thanks.

Time: 18th February 2011 9:31am

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John Mc says...
Hi Jantina,
It's not as sweet as the full size one, I really don't know how the New Guineanans use it. Needs more research. I have a piece of stem there with your name on it if you wanted some.

Time: 18th February 2011 12:16pm

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Jantina says...
Thankyou John I'd love to try a piece. You can email me at
jantinarohde at activ8 dot net dot au
hopefully I will have something you're after that I can send in return.

Time: 18th February 2011 10:32pm

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John Mc says...
and more:
1. Monstera- heaps, too many, a lot go to waste.
2. Peanut butter bush
3. Rosella bush
4. Sandpaper fig, tried the first one yesterday, hope they soften up a bit, taste like stiff cardboard. I hope their not all like that. The local ones around hee are beautiful and moist, just like their larger cousins, without the full flavour, of course.
5, Red cherry guava absolutely loaded
6. Persimmon, n/a.
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Time: 18th February 2011 11:17pm

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Joanna Ha says...
Hi Happy Earth, Trang Le and everyone.
I live in Wollongong and you gave me the hope of planting my favorite tropical fruits. Rambutan, Wax Jambu, Guava, Custard Apple and Persimon Trees are what I always have been dreaming of having in my backyard. I have moved to Australia from South East Asia and have really missed these fruits. I was about to give them up, e.g no longer buy them in Cabramatta as they are so expensive and containing strange tastes. But I find some hope in this forum, partly because I became so fond of gardening recently. I have about 10 types of Vietnamsese herb in my gardens, with lemon grass, lime, lemon, banana trees, yam bean, mushtard cabbage. I am thinking of having one of my plum tree down and replace it with a tropical type. Will keep reading your post to know how to care as winter seems a problem for tropical trees.

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HappyEarth says...
Hi Joanna, you should have no problem with the trees you have listed except for the Rambutan. My understanding is that its a very tropcial fruit tree and wont fruit or survive the winters down here without some protection.

Rich
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Time: 15th March 2011 3:29pm

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Mike says...
I reckon all the listed trees will thrive in the Sydney area as few are actually tropical or heaven forbid,equatorial.Cairns is too tropical for lychees,longans and yellow jaboticaba and these species volunteered for mulch patrol in my yard after losing their spots on the yards' 'run on side'.Rambutan,Durian and mangosteen are not worth even trying south of Townsville.

Time: 12th June 2011 2:04pm

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Mike says...
If you are talking about S.samarangense from Thailand especially it is seedless, very large,has numerous varieties and way better than all others in the genus.There unfortunately are no good ones in this country.

Time: 12th June 2011 2:09pm

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Sangi says...
Tony,
where did you get the white guava tree from? I would very much like one in my garden.

Time: 12th October 2011 7:24pm

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gledy says...
this forum has definitly given me inspiration. I have carambola, longan, wampi, panama berry, wax jambu, guava, star apple all waiting to fruit. I'm really hopeful they will fruit as this forum has given positive outcomes growing tropical fruit trees in these areas. I live in nsw quakers hill where we get light frost, alot of hard work during winter to try protect my beloved fruit trees. Fruiting at the moment blueberries, pepino and calamansi tree. Does anyone know how long before wax jambu fruits?

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gledy says...
this forum has definitly given me inspiration. I have carambola, longan, wampi, panama berry, wax jambu, guava, star apple all waiting to fruit. I'm really hopeful they will fruit as this forum has given positive outcomes growing tropical fruit trees in these areas. I live in nsw quakers hill where we get light frost, alot of hard work during winter to try protect my beloved fruit trees. Fruiting at the moment blueberries, pepino and calamansi tree. Does anyone know how long before wax jambu fruits?

Time: 27th October 2011 10:01pm

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gledy says...
this forum has definitly given me inspiration. I have carambola, longan, wampi, panama berry, wax jambu, guava, star apple all waiting to fruit. I'm really hopeful they will fruit as this forum has given positive outcomes growing tropical fruit trees in these areas. I live in nsw quakers hill where we get light frost, alot of hard work during winter to try protect my beloved fruit trees. Fruiting at the moment blueberries, pepino and calamansi tree. Does anyone know how long before wax jambu fruits?

Time: 27th October 2011 10:08pm

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HappyEarth says...
Not sure about Wax Jambu fruits ... but id guess they would take 3-4 years before fruiting.

I'm eating cherries from the rio grande at the moment and they are delicious. What a top, little tree! And ive got a whole bunch of sapodillas on the way. Anyone know what time of year they ripen up around Sydney region?

Rich
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Time: 12th November 2011 6:58am

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Ants says...
Yea I live in quakers hill and are gonna try some tropicals.will they grow under shade cloth?

Time: 23rd January 2012 7:16pm

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Adi says...
Hi,you have mentioned that you had a Tamarind tree in sydney.I am pregnant and i had cravings for baby tamarind leaves.Is there any possible i can get them.I am happy to to pay you.

Time: 28th January 2012 11:15am

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MaryT says...
Hi Adi, the Botanic Gardens in Sydney has a tamarind tree. Maybe they'll let you have some leaves. :) Best Wishes.

Time: 28th January 2012 11:21am

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Laisla says...
The thing to remember is that Sydney is so large that it actually has many different climates. Western Sydney is drier with clayish (and poorer) soils; the CBD and coast is milder but has a lot of wind. The best climate in Sydney in my experience is the inner west - close enough to the city for milder temps but further from the coast as to not get bucketed by dwarfing winds off the Pacific. For me, bananas grow the best, followed by Papaya, betel leaf, guavas, mangosteen.

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Laisla says...
Sorry almost forgot - Avocados LOVE the Sydney climate and grow exceptionally well. Mangoes do GROW beautifully but don't always fruit well - if it rains less in winter, they fruit well, else they don't

Time: 22nd June 2013 2:44pm

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KeepitReal says...
Clay soil is not poor soil. It's richer in minerals than sand (practically nothing).
Inner west would have marginal chilling, so except for low chill varieties, pome and stone fruit are dicey propositions. Yes, for subtropical fruits, closer to the coast would be better than Emu Plains.


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Laisla says...
Clay soil it poor because those minerals are not released; they are held in clay where roots cannot penetrate them. To release them (with something like gypsum) would make them a lot better but without a lot of work they remain poor

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Laisla says...
Once you past lewisham/Summer Hill, the climate and soils change (drier weather, colder winters/hotter summers and more clay content). From Lewisham to about Newtown there are mild temps and more loamish soils; anything east of newtown comprises sandy soils and, although temps are mild, there tends to be a lot of wind exposure from the coast

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Boris Spasky says...
That's funny, because The Hills area used to have a lot of citrus groves. (clay). Still have an Orange festival to this day. And speaking of Emu Plains, the Imperial mandarin was discovered there in a citrus grove (clay). In Glenorie and surrounding areas they still grow a lot of stone fruit. (clay).
You only have to read the problems of people in WA. They are buying clay to add to their sand, to make better use of organic matter.
You don't need to add gypsum, but organic manner to unlock the benefits of clay. Established trees don't seem to have a problem with clay from my experience.

Time: 23rd June 2013 9:12am

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Chris says...
Guys, the original poster asked about tropical fruit.
Closer to the coast would be best because of less extremes in temps.

Time: 23rd June 2013 9:18am

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sternus1 says...
Going to agree with Boris here. I am on pretty nasty clay where I am, but it can be turned into good soil with regular composting, watering, and mulch. I have learned that Gypsum is not the answer--if anything, in the long run it makes the situation worse--totally ruins the soil chemistry, trees hate it. I have pretty much everything growing in clay, and it is all thriving because of proper treatment. Even coconuts will grow in clay.

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lyric says...
Boris, you may have over-reached on the clay story; much of the cited territory has Wianamatta shale, a very good soil by Oz standards.
Do,however,agree that gypsum is not a cure=all.

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Boris Spasky says...
Thanks for the lesson in geology (rocks).
Unless you're building tunnels underground, it's irrelevant when talking about the soil texture and structure one has to work with.
But from the Wikipedia entry on Wianamatta shale, "Weathering of the shale units produces a rich clayey soil, often with poor drainage, such as that in the Cumberland Plain.[2]" .
Lyric, it appears your knowledge of geology is even less than my nonexistent level.
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lyric says...
Thanks for the serve; here is the volley. If your sole basis for assessing a soil is Wikipedia then it says a lot. For your info - Wianamatta shale is a SURFACE layer. It is NOT a clay which forms a stuctureless soil of poor drainage . When it weathers it produces "peds" or colloquially "crumbs" that allow root penetration and improves drainage . What is more the fertility is reasonable by Oz standards . Practically all of Bilpin is on W. shale and is the chief reason why orchards exist there.
Feel free to quote Wikipedia but realise its limitations .

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Boris Spasky says...
Pure clay rarely exists in Australia.
And what is shale? subset of clay--mix of clay and other minerals. It ain't sandy soil and it ain't loam.
Geology aside, there is no question of the soil's fertility.


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Chris says...
I am on clay soil, regardless of what % it contains or technical term you guys want to call it.
I wish it was loam!

Time: 4th November 2013 8:25pm

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lyric says...
I am on clay soil but down the road there is soil derived from Wianamatta shale (easily identified by the presence of ironbark trees) and it is the site of an old orchard . It matters a lot what the parent material is.
Incidentally shale has larger particles than clay and the soil that derives from it has a structure. It can easily be identified in the hand.

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Anonymous says...
I gardened on clay for many years; was difficult and things grew slow. I wish I had the loamy soil of Sydney's inner west. Just cause citrus grows well in clay doesn;t mean allplants do. Most dont

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Farouk says...
Hi guys, rarely?

We lived in 2 places in Fairfield 2165 & both times we had almost pure clay, our backyard now is organge although we had top soil layed for the lawn from previous owners I guess that washed away some places we have a few cms of soil & all below it is moist clay, I can dig a big hole & get the clay out & put good quality mineral mixure of soil etc & the tree grows like wild fire but you see it in 1year from then the tree hits the clay brick wall & all is lost tree goes through major stress big issue in my yard of 30+ fruit trees :(

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Frank8 says...
Hi I have grown mangoes and dragonfruit
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capricorn45 says...
I have planted a whole lot of rose https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/tropical-fruit-trees-successfuly-grown-in-sydneywollongongnewcastle3/#la bush seedlings here in Thailand. The dried flowers are boiled and the resulting red tea is then refrigerated and makes a refreshing drink.

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cabra says...
In cabramatta in peoples back yards they got jack fruit,massive longan trees 24foot high, dragon fruit. and mangos everywer..and the soil is about 40cm of soil and pure clay

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Rep: Amanda -

**NakedHands but I figure that as I'm not dead yet I must be building up my own anti-venom!!?? :)**

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Edwina says...
I had tamarind trees growing in cammeray Sydney and they did very well after a year. Lasted for quite a few years and then self seeded.

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Phil10 says...
I've just planted (in a pot on a deck) a small dragon fruit bought from a man at Cabramatta who grows dozens ij large tubs. Will report on its progress.

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sunny007 says...
Hi looking for a jambu for planting, can any of you suggest where l can find one please

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Chad says...
I'm attempting in the Lake Illawarra area (16.5KM south of Wollongong) to grow

Kampong white sapote- Purchased Feb 2016 from Daley's which is going great.

Tyagarah Vanilla Jakfruit - Purchased Feb 2016. thought I'd take a risk, it's growing at least.

White Shahtoot Mulberry - Purchased Jan 2016 going well

Kary Carambola - Purchased Jan 2016 growing slowly.

Picone Rollinia - Purchased April 2015. Was going great. I root pruned it a couple of months ago and at the moment it has lost all it's leaves. Hope it's not dying.

Panama Berry - Purchased April 2015 - the fastest growing fruit tree I've ever seen. The fruit isn't pleasant, though that might be because of the young age of it.

Black Sapote Chocolate - Purchased Jan 2015 and growing well, had no problems with it.

Waiting for Luc's Garcinia to be ready for delivery, and waiting for Krasuey Sapodilla and Lyndall Canistel to be available.

Time: 7th January 2017 6:05pm

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Markmelb says...
Chad - may i suggest putting Rollinia is a root pruning bag - Geopot is what i use from Hydroponics shops - start with a 10gallon size first.

Time: 9th January 2017 12:26pm

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Chad says...
Thanks, I've been using Daley's bonsai bags

Time: 10th January 2017 4:27pm

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Darren says...
I am in Shellharbour. Nothing tropical perse but I have happy pineapples, an 8 ft Yuzu, a thriving Sudachi, meiwa and Nagami Kumquat, dwarf persimmon that gave three fruit last yr, a nashi and black cheree that are reluctant to flower, a 12 ft Ume Japanese Apricot that finally flowered this year but no fruit set. Papaya has fruit.

Time: 6th September 2017 8:30pm

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Waterfall says...
Most of these are subtropical really but here are some photos of fruit we have grown in Sydney.

Check out more photos on my FB blog page.

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Time: 23rd September 2017 7:42pm

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Farouk says...
Hi Sunny,

are you looking for Wax Jambu ?

I brought the red type from Canley Vale Nursery here in Sydney.

62/68 Canley Vale Rd, Canley Vale NSW 2166

Although mines gone all crispy (the leaves not fruit..) now couldn't handle this summer at all, it produced 2 flowers in the pot then got fried with that extra heat.

Mine is well watered daily, hoping it recovers, still sort of green at the lower leaves.

Time: 18th January 2018 3:59pm

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Waterfall says...
My post above needs updating as we have added a few more fruits this year.

Rollinia
Purple dragonfruit
Avocado
Grumichama
Yellow dragonfruit



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Time: 7th April 2018 8:37pm

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Waterfall

Wow Yummy!!! Your grumi leaves appears to be variegated. I have a grumi too but, it doesn't have the mosaic leaf pattern like yours. What's the difference in flavor between the yellow and red DF?

Keep up the excellent and awe inspiring work.

Happy Gardening :-)

Time: 8th April 2018 7:59pm

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David01 says...
Hi Waterfall,

I am looking forward to hear from you how the Rollinia tastes. I have 3 seedlings, 2 at 1.5m and 1 at 0.7m. Hope they will bear fruits in a year or 2. Cheers

Time: 9th April 2018 10:00am

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Waterfall says...
Hi Fruitylicious1

Yes the grumi is variegated, both of them actually. They were sold to me as a standard black grumi from Daleys.

Yellow DF is sweeter but the red/purple has a more complex flavor. Both are much sweeter than the white flesh type.

Time: 9th April 2018 11:22am

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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Waterfall

Thanks for the response, much appreciated. I have red (dark star), white, yellow and pink panther DF's ATM but they are all less than one yr old. Heaps of good growth though. A few more years may be before I can taste the fruits of my labor.

Happy gardening :-)

Time: 10th April 2018 10:12am

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Chad says...
My rollinia died. When I was root pruning it I cut the tap root. That's what I think caused it to die anyway

Time: 11th April 2018 1:16pm

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Waterfall says...
My red flesh are Aztec Gem and Rixford. I have not tasted Rixford yet.

Aztec Gem has rather small fruits but they are delicious!

Time: 11th April 2018 1:44pm

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Goldentrevally says...
HI Rich,
We have Nam Doc Mai mango at Tempe, NSW in a sunny position. We got our first 6 full size mangoes this year.

The tree is only about 3.5yrs old.

The fruit was impressive in flavour. Far superior to other mangoes I have tasted. They almost had a sweet lime flavour to them and were picked green and left to ripen on bench for 5 days.

Omg the best with vanilla connoisseur ice cream!

Time: 6th May 2019 11:44pm

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Time: 6th May 2019 11:47pm

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Farouk says...
Beautiful very nice!

Will be a while until I have my own home grown mango, planted from seed in 2017, doing very well & growing tall with quite large leaves.

Time: 7th May 2019 2:26pm

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Chad says...
Growing
Tygarah Vanilla Jackfruit
Nagasake Loquat
Kampong White Sapote
Ice Cream Bean
Miracle Berry
Kary Carambola
Luc's Garcinia

Time: 8th November 2019 2:15pm

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Farouk says...
It's happened already this past summer.
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Time: 16th June 2020 2:24pm

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David01 says...
Hi Farouk,

Your mango looking good. Cheers

Time: 17th June 2020 1:59pm

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Cool_Breeze says...
Hi Farouk,

From seed to fruit in 3 years is very impressive. Can i ask if it was in ground or pot, sown direct or transplanted later and finally left alone or pruned??

How many did you get on first season?? And did it taste the same as original fruit (true to type)?? Looks yum all the same anyway =).

Time: 17th June 2020 6:08pm

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Rickettymich says...
Hey all,
Very excited first time fruit grower in Berowra Heights (just north of Hornsby). No frost, north facing garden.

What would you recommend I try based on your experience?

Currently thinking:
- black sapote
- cherry of the rio grande
- dragon fruit
- Persimmon
- panama berry
- Dwarf mango
- dwarf red Jaboticaba
- blue java banana

Thanks in advance!




Time: 3rd October 2020 3:04pm

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Chad1 says...
I've grow black sapote and panama berry successfully (in pots because of limited space)15km south of Wollongong near the coast so you shouldn't have a problem. Panama berry grew very quickly.

Black sapote I regretted because it really does taste like nothing.

Persimmons fruit in Victoria so that won't be a problem. I have a Saruga and Ichikikijiro that I received around a month ago from, Daley's.

I'm attempting to grow dragonfruit, just have to not be lazy and put up the post already. I don't see you having a problem with any of the plants on the list due to climate.




Time: 4th October 2020 2:49pm

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Rickettymich says...
Thanks Chad1:)

Oh, sad to hear about the black sapote flavour. My 8yrold is sold on the idea of a chocolate pudding tree.

Are you training your dragonfruit up a climber, ,or letting them hang down? I’m planning on trying them hanging on some retaining brick walls on our sloped block.

Time: 5th October 2020 12:01pm

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Chad1 says...
The plan is to grow the dragonfruit up a hardwood post.
The black sapote was a disappointment. I let it put energy into growing until the fourth year when I got some fruit. I wish I had a chance to taste it before growing it. I should have paid attention to all the videos I saw saying it tastes good after mixing in cream/ice cream. Definitely a warning sign lol.

Time: 7th October 2020 9:29pm

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Waterfall says...
Black sapote are a polarising fruit, some people love them and some people hate them.

Personally I could eat them all day long!

Time: 9th October 2020 10:03am

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Chad1 says...
Don't make me jealous

Time: 11th October 2020 3:40pm

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Waterfall says...
It's been a while since I added some photos on here.

Guavas (Hawaiian & Indian)
FDJ Cherimoya
Kiew Savouy Mango
Grumichamas
Paxton Prolific Atemoya
Tamarillos, Feijoa
Rollinia (biggest was 1.2kg)

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David01 says...
Hi Waterfall,

I was wondering how many year the Rollinia has fruits and what it tastes like when compares with custard apple and cherimoya.
Also, I have white and bays cherimoya you you want to exchange the cuttings. Cheers/ David

Time: 8th August 2021 7:48pm

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Waterfall says...
Hi David,

How many years until it fruits? I think it took about 4 years, they have not self pollinated yet so hand pollination is required and is a little more tricky than the cherimoya and custard apple, it is just not as obvious when the flower is male and female.

The taste is very different, it has a distinct lemon tang and the flesh is not as firm. I really enjoy the fruit, they are well worth growing.

I would be happy to exchange cuttings, can you contact my facebook page in the previous post?

Time: 9th August 2021 11:38am

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bspargo says...
Hey Waterfall, glad to see you are getting rollinia. I'm hopeful my tree will give me some in coming years too. Do you get much dieback? I got a bit this year, it's starting to push out growth now, but at the same time still dying back on some of the limbs.

Time: 4th October 2021 9:52pm

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Waterfall says...
Bspargo yes it drops most branches each year, only keeps the larger branches and I take the top off to bring it back down to 2m tall.

Time: 7th October 2021 6:20pm

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bspargo says...
good to know you still get fruit even with a bit of dieback. I've just planted another actually and i'm going to try and espalier it in a protected location. Hoping that will help lessen the dieback.

Time: 8th October 2021 10:15pm

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Linda says...
HI,
I realise this is an ancient thread but How did you go with your Jakfruit in Wollongong? I have paw paw in Sydney but right close to the north of the house - not a suitable place for a huge Jakfruit :)

Time: 18th February 2024 10:05pm

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Edward3 says...
We have a jakfruit tree growing in Carlingford in Sydney. It is about 15 years old and has given us some fruit already, and good tasting too. It is partly screened from the South by a bush reserve but it gets plenty of sun. The important thing is to give it plenty of water. And you don't need to worry about size of tree - it is in fact good practice to cut off the top at about 3-4 metres on a regular basis. It will spread out and produce fruit lower down.

Time: 1st March 2024 2:55pm

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Edward3 says...
Just an update - right now there are more than 10 jackfruits on the tree. We will probably lose some over winter, but some will survive. Here is a photo of one taken last year which ripened OK.
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Time: 22nd May 2024 12:10pm

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Edward3 says...
Further update - all the jackfruits went mouldy over winter, large and small. They set fruit too late in the season and so didn't ripen over winter. So it seems that only if the fruit sets in early Spring then will manage to ripen by Autumn.

Time: 26th September 2024 10:50am

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