Wampee seeds (forum)

Phil@Tyalgum starts with ...
I have a few Wampee seeds to give away if anyone would like them - Yeem Pay and Guy Sam. My two trees are only about two feet tall and already producing. Yeem Pay is a beautiful musky variety, Guy Sam somewhat more acidic.

Time: 30th March 2012 12:36pm

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MaryT says...
I'd like to have a go, Phil. My wampee was a seedling and although it is HUGE it has not and may never produce fruit.

Time: 30th March 2012 2:04pm

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MaryT says...
Sorry, Phil - here's my email address tngmry at yahoo dot com dot au

Time: 30th March 2012 2:05pm

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john says...
Do they come true to seed?

Time: 30th March 2012 3:08pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I don't imagine they would, but I guess it's nice to know which parent plant is which.

Time: 30th March 2012 6:15pm

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John Mc says...
Mary, my seedling wampi is only four years old and produces a very nice sweet fruit similar to yeem pay, only gotta beat the birds now and all will be sweet.

Time: 30th March 2012 7:32pm

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Jenny says...
Hi Phil, if there are any spare I would also like a few, I don't have very much yet to swap but there are some seedling cherimoyas which are a bit small yet or I should have some Rollinia seeds soon in the next couple of months. my email jensco(at)picturefixer(dot)com(dot)au. thank you

Time: 30th March 2012 7:52pm

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Mike says...
Wampees are supposed to be pretty true to type and apparently in China they are mostly seed grown.

Time: 30th March 2012 7:52pm

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BJ says...
Seedlings of good types should produce a high percentage of decent offspring. Seedlings of seedlings tend to lower that percentage with each generation. You can end up with awful overly musky, aromatic and tart fruit (all at once) by planting seeds of average ones. Taste the fruit from Northey Street Gardens if you dont understand how bad seedlings of seedlings can be.

Time: 30th March 2012 8:25pm

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MaryT says...
So are the named varieties from cuttings? Mine is a no name variety and wouldn't be surprised if it's a seedling of a seedling. Don't really understand the biologically reasoning. Couldn't it work the other way?

Time: 30th March 2012 8:53pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
MIne were bought from the shop at Daleys when I visited.. I think they are grafted or cuttings, will have a closer look in the morning.

Time: 30th March 2012 9:33pm

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BJ says...
Grafted. They graft well, so that gives them a better root system than marcot or cutting.

Time: 30th March 2012 9:44pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks, Phil, I have your email and have replied. I was not going to grow trees from seed (due to lack of space and health) but Mike's started me on it & I have to say it's really rewarding to watch a baby tree grow.

Time: 31st March 2012 10:40am

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Jenny says...
Thanks Phil, seeds arrived and safely planted.

Time: 3rd April 2012 4:25pm

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MaryT says...
Phil the seeds you sent me have sprouted and most have four to six leaves. They are still very small so it may be some time before they look like trees :) I will pot them up soon unless someone wants a couple sent to them while they're still small.

Can you tell me what varieties they are? One has rounded leaves and the other pointed.
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Time: 21st October 2012 6:28pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Glad to hear you had some luck with them.. I think the rounded ones are Guy Sam and the pointed ones Yeem Pay... my trees are struggling in the dry conditions but putting out some new growth. Doesn't look like they'll flower this year somehow.

Time: 21st October 2012 6:53pm

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MaryT says...
They LOVE water, don't they? I have had a big one in a pot for years; just grows luscious leaves but no sign of flowers yet. It was growing too tall so I took the top off if then I read that they fruit from the top only. Sigh. Anyway IOU for those seeds; let me know if I can send you something, won't you?

Time: 21st October 2012 9:07pm

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John Mc says...
That's wierd, I have a 5ft seedling in full flower yet, both my grafted trees are flowerless, go figure?

Time: 21st October 2012 9:31pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Have you ever tasted fruit from your seedling tree John? The flavours of Yeem Pay vs Guy Sam couldn't be more different. I wonder how unnamed seedlings perform. And thanks Mary T, will be watching your posts carefully to see if there is anything I can nab... has anyone had any red Bayberries germinate yet?

Time: 21st October 2012 9:41pm

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John Mc says...
My seedling fruit is georgeous.
I have another interesting seedling that is growing well. It came from a chinese community in Sydney. They said it was a very special tree to treasure, and I am. Has anyone grafted them? I'd like to know when and how it's done.

Bayberry? I think I stuffed mine by experimenting too much. Nevermind, They'll stay in place for at least a couple of years just in case. I heard on the grapevine that a nursery or two were propagating them in Aus, but that is as far as I got. I'll try and make further inquiries.

Time: 21st October 2012 10:10pm

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VF says...
Just seen some flowering Guy Sam at a Gold Coast Bunnings today - advanced size, nice looking trees for reasonable price ($37) I think. Also Tahitian Black Sap's were flowering heavily too - had to hold onto wallet tightly and just keep walking.

Time: 23rd October 2012 5:37pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Which Bunnings is that VF?

Time: 23rd October 2012 6:01pm

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VF says...
Oxenford, which is on western side of Pac.Hwy at Tamborine Mt./Hope Island turnoff,no.57.

Time: 23rd October 2012 8:13pm

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davewastech says...
Guy Siam vs Yeem Pay.
I would like to plant a Wampi in Sydney. What are the pros and cons of these varieties in terms of taste, tree appearance and suitability to Sydney's climate?
I was considering to purchase a grafted plant from Daleys and place it near the north wall of my house.

Time: 3rd November 2012 8:08pm

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Miranda says...
The grafted Guy Sum I bought from Daleys is sweet and seedless, grows really well in sydney. It is in full bloom now. It was struggled a bit when I transplant it into clay soil and didn't give enough water. They grow fast if you water and fertilise regularly. Wampee trees fruit better, heavier and have longer life if you grow them in loam soil. Guy Sum fruits need to be leave on tree until skin fully covered in brown.

Time: 3rd November 2012 10:36pm

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davewastech says...
Thanks Miranda, sounds like Guy Sum is a good option.
Anybody in Sydney area have a Yeem Pay that they could either recommend or not recommend? (I'm still waying up the pros and cons of the two varieties)

Time: 4th November 2012 9:56am

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Grant says...
Hey Phil@Tyalgum a couple of seasons have come and gone with your Wampee's and i am wondering if the Yeem Pay is still streets ahead on taste in your opinion? Vs the Guy Sam that is. Im not sure which one to go for in a part shade position, i have never tasted the fruit.


Time: 19th September 2014 12:10pm

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sternus1 says...
A good wampee is a good fruit, but the tree I had which was seedling didn't produce those. One of those fruits you'd need to have in the grafted kind from quality fruit producing tree, Very variable. Similar to loquat in taste.

Time: 19th September 2014 12:18pm

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JohnMc1 says...
You've got to be lucky, but I snagged an excellent seeding that is sweet, produced very early in it's life and has chicken tongue seeds. It's better than one of the known grafted varieties that Daley's sells, in my opinion.

Time: 19th September 2014 6:12pm

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Grant says...
Which one is it better than JohnMc1? I am trying to glean from others experience and opinion cause that's all i have to help me decide btwn the two.

Time: 20th September 2014 10:50am

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Grant says...
Anyone got more input on yeem pay vs guy sam?

Time: 22nd September 2014 2:38pm

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sternus1 says...
Grant,

if you're just getting into fruit trees and have a new space or whatever, I'd encourage you not to make the mistake I did of buying and planting out everything I could get my hands on--especially if I deemed this to be unusual or rare.

Now, as I'm up to about 150 unique trees, I am regretting planting out a lot of things and find myself constantly removing things and replacing them with better stuff. Wampee was one of those, and frankly I won't buy another because I can use the space for something that tastes better tbh. I live on 3 acres of land--but getting water to that space if it were to be covered in fruit trees would be insane--just not doable.

For example, I would plant out a loquat over a wampee in a heartbeat. Even the best wampee won't compare to even an acceptable loquat. Just a better fruit, more productive and a nicer looking tree. Or I'd plant out a good carambola (arkin or giant siam) just watch the grommet around this one because under ripe fruit can be dangerous to eat. Or maybe a red shatoot mulberry, which is a must-have fruit tree, really. Avocado, sapote, the list goes one and on.

Anyway I suppose what I'm saying is save your space for the best stuff--chances are, you'll wish you had at some point in the future.



Time: 22nd September 2014 4:11pm

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gimme says...
I grow a grafted teem pay from birdwood it's awesome

Time: 22nd September 2014 4:47pm

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Grant says...
I'm hearing you Sternus, it is sometimes the most difficult bug in the garden to control. I will reflect on the zealot inside. But that one spot is calling out to me!!

Time: 22nd September 2014 6:06pm

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sternus1 says...
Have a spare red champagne fingerlime if you want one grant, as well as some dragon cuttings. Let me know.

Time: 22nd September 2014 6:22pm

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Grant says...
Very generous of you Sternus, i might take you up on the DF cuttings, i already have a spiky yellow (this is right up among the best fruit on my list) and young aztec gem, but i have room for one or two more. I have a fingerlime that my kids raid, fruit never makes it inside so i am ok on that front. Here is my email canvo11athotmaildotcom i am more than happy to pay you for your trouble

Thanks for your input Gimme

Time: 22nd September 2014 10:10pm

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davewastech says...
Can somebody remind me what month our Yeem Pay Wampi should flower(in Sydney)? It looks like mine is not going to flower at all this year.
In 2013 I seem to recall it flowered about October, November. But I definitely recall the fruit, we ate them in February - and they were delicious! (Must be some varieties are better than others - I've tried a lot of loquats in my lifetime, but nothing near as tasty as my wampi).
Thanks,
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Time: 21st December 2014 10:45am

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srt says...
Wampee is flowering now in Sydney.

Time: 21st December 2014 4:06pm

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davewastech says...
Thanks srt,
I just found a photo of mine flowering last year 12 October. Looks like it varies a bit from year to year. (starting to worry that I'd have to tell my neighbourhood wampee fans that there'd be no joy to share this wampee season...)

Time: 22nd December 2014 11:33am

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JohnMc1 says...
I have a seedling that has well finished flowering and the fruit is now pea sized.

Time: 22nd December 2014 2:11pm

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davewastech says...
Hmm, looks like mine's skipping a year. Anyway it fruited last February just 16 months after purchasing the plant. So it's probably not surprising that it's skipping this year. Tree looks very healthy.
Thanks for feedback

Time: 25th December 2014 3:25pm

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